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Title: What comes next after a ban?
Post by: Agbamoni on November 19, 2025, 03:41:38 PM
An old news popped out of my X feed today, perhaps more accusations and sanctions will be taking place effectively.
Mykhailo Mudryk to face a ban for four years due to doping before the match.
I have one question, if he faces a ban will his recent contract with Chelsea be automatically terminated, or will he still receive wages until the contract expires?
Let me hear your thoughts on this.

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Title: Re: What comes next after a ban?
Post by: Odohu on November 19, 2025, 03:47:58 PM
If a player is banned, I think it will affect his contract because the essence of the contract is for him to play for the club, should he stop to keep his part of the contract due to offense that is unconnected to the club, he has no legal standing to receive wages. The club may decide to pay him someone but they are not bound by the terms of the contract. Some club will even dismiss him, I think it happened to Pogba, I'm not sure but surely ban was the beginning of his problems.


Title: Re: What comes next after a ban?
Post by: YOSHIE on November 19, 2025, 04:12:11 PM
terminated, or will he still receive wages until the contract expires?
Let me hear your thoughts on this.
Yes, if you are talking about Mykhailo Mudryk's, several months ago in the sports news on: 19 June 2025, Chelsea already explained it.
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“The club, on the face of it, would have a relatively open-and-shut case to say the player is guilty of gross misconduct and, if they wanted to, they could terminate the player’s contract,” Chapman says. “They would need to give 14 days’ notice to the player in writing if that is what they wanted to do.
Source: Mykhailo Mudryk’s doping charge explained: Can Chelsea sack him if found guilty and could he appeal? (https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6104741/2025/06/19/mykhailo-mudryk-chelsea-doping-charge-explained/)



I once read in one of the new sports magazines, I read it two days ago, there it was mentioned.
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Mudryk's case is still awaiting the results of a disciplinary hearing from the FA. The President of the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA), Witold Banka, emphasized that his party is ready to review the decision that comes out later.

Conclusion: Mudryk's case is currently in process, meaning there has been no update regarding Mudryk's fate at Chelsea, my guess is that if it is proven Chelsea will terminate Mudryk's contract.


Title: Re: What comes next after a ban?
Post by: mikel_012 on November 19, 2025, 04:26:30 PM
Most teams have in the contract with the players that they can terminate the contract earlier if he is found doing something very bad like match fixing, doping, or very bad offenses like murdering someone. And I think everyone is understandable that this is acceptable, since no team wants to have someone like this associated with their brand and there is no reason to pay for a player that is banned for 4 years.


Title: Re: What comes next after a ban?
Post by: Su-asa on November 19, 2025, 04:28:52 PM
There no doubt that Mykhailo Mudryk's, will lose his contract between him and the club Chelsea. However, the main reason why the contract was signed was so that Mykhailo Mudryk will keep on playing for the club. But since he has been banned from gamble for four years, the contract will be called off. Actually, it's Mykhailo Mudryk's, fault because he's taking hard drugs on purpose before the gamble and he already knows that it's against the rules.


Title: Re: What comes next after a ban?
Post by: acroman08 on November 19, 2025, 04:40:23 PM
I have one question, if he faces a ban will his recent contract with Chelsea be automatically terminated, or will he still receive wages until the contract expires?
Let me hear your thoughts on this.
Here's my assumption. His wages will stop, and his contract will probably be terminated. The contract would probably have a clause where if an athlete got banned XX amount of time or something, the opposite party can have the legal right to end the contract and sever any wages/bonus that the athlete is supposed to get if the contract is still active. also, it is in the best interest of the team/club to terminate the contract of someone who can't play for the next XX amount of years.


Title: Re: What comes next after a ban?
Post by: crwth on November 19, 2025, 04:46:35 PM
An old news popped out of my X feed today, perhaps more accusations and sanctions will be taking place effectively.
Mykhailo Mudryk to face a ban for four years due to doping before the match.
I have one question, if he faces a ban will his recent contract with Chelsea be automatically terminated, or will he still receive wages until the contract expires?
Let me hear your thoughts on this.

https://talkimg.com/images/2025/11/19/UPrqfg.jpeg
Image source  (https://x.com/livescore/status/1935371377852432869)
There are definitely some forms of clause that are related to not being able to play or being disqualified. If you are the team owner and someone on your payroll is not bringing value to the team, would you continue to pay them? I don't think so. Especially if it's self-harm and it's of his own accord. Highly likely to be a termination.


Title: Re: What comes next after a ban?
Post by: iv4n on November 19, 2025, 05:20:46 PM
I have one question, if he faces a ban will his recent contract with Chelsea be automatically terminated, or will he still receive wages until the contract expires?
Let me hear your thoughts on this.

I think everything is clearly written in the contract he signed with Chelsea... you know, they have serious lawyers working on these things, big money is involved.

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What comes next after a ban?

Well, when you ruin your reputation, it's hard to come back... It's not impossible, but it's really hard. So some people recover, and some fall into despair.


Title: Re: What comes next after a ban?
Post by: Odusko on November 19, 2025, 05:26:28 PM
An old news popped out of my X feed today, perhaps more accusations and sanctions will be taking place effectively.
Mykhailo Mudryk to face a ban for four years due to doping before the match.
I have one question, if he faces a ban will his recent contract with Chelsea be automatically terminated, or will he still receive wages until the contract expires?
Let me hear your thoughts on this.

https://talkimg.com/images/2025/11/19/UPrqfg.jpeg
Image source  (https://x.com/livescore/status/1935371377852432869)
I don't know the term of the contract with the club, but for a truth, 4 years ban is somewhat high and should be exceeding his counted timing already which won't be ok for the club, so I only have one assumption in mind as regards to what will happen with his contract with Chelsea, he will definitely get cancelled from the Cub too.


Title: Re: What comes next after a ban?
Post by: Floxynice on November 19, 2025, 05:46:06 PM
No club wants to finance a liability for four good years when the liability is of no use to them for that long period of time. What I think most clubs would do is to suspend the player's entitlements during the period of his ban, if after investigations it was found out that the player is guilty of the accusations against him. If the club wants to be a bit lenient, they would pay him a reduced amount during that period.


Title: Re: What comes next after a ban?
Post by: GxSTxV on November 19, 2025, 05:46:16 PM
Logically, any contract involving a player or even a coach gets stopped if that person breaks any rule written inside it. So if a player caught doping, the club will usually end the contract and won’t receive any wages for that, unless it’s an injury case or whatever is allowed in the contracts. I don’t think any team would accept paying a player who failed a doping test because that would basically support that bad act.

I remember a known player in our local league, Youcef Belaïli. He got caught with doping and even drugs in his system during the regular check. In our league they randomly select two or three players from each team for testing which honestly isn’t an effective way to stop players who are determined to cheat in my opinion. That player was banned for about five years if I remember well, then he came back and even rejoined the national team because of his talent. At the same time, he still causes trouble everywhere he goes which is also a funny thing.


Title: Re: What comes next after a ban?
Post by: Slow death on November 19, 2025, 06:50:08 PM
An old news popped out of my X feed today, perhaps more accusations and sanctions will be taking place effectively.
Mykhailo Mudryk to face a ban for four years due to doping before the match.
I have one question, if he faces a ban will his recent contract with Chelsea be automatically terminated, or will he still receive wages until the contract expires?
Let me hear your thoughts on this.

https://talkimg.com/images/2025/11/19/UPrqfg.jpeg
Image source  (https://x.com/livescore/status/1935371377852432869)
I don't know the term of the contract with the club, but for a truth, 4 years ban is somewhat high and should be exceeding his counted timing already which won't be ok for the club, so I only have one assumption in mind as regards to what will happen with his contract with Chelsea, he will definitely get cancelled from the Cub too.

His contract with Chelsea expires in June 2031, but if he is proven guilty and has no further recourse, then Chelsea has the right to terminate his contract, because he would no longer play for Chelsea and would also be harming the club. Unfortunately, he destroyed his career and cannot blame anyone else, and Chelsea has the right to terminate his contract and sign another player. Honestly, I don't understand why he went down this path; he destroyed his career when he didn't need to.


Title: Re: What comes next after a ban?
Post by: Agbamoni on November 19, 2025, 07:09:30 PM
Logically, any contract involving a player or even a coach gets stopped if that person breaks any rule written inside it. So if a player caught doping, the club will usually end the contract and won’t receive any wages for that, unless it’s an injury case or whatever is allowed in the contracts. I don’t think any team would accept paying a player who failed a doping test because that would basically support that bad act.

I remember a known player in our local league, Youcef Belaïli. He got caught with doping and even drugs in his system during the regular check. In our league they randomly select two or three players from each team for testing which honestly isn’t an effective way to stop players who are determined to cheat in my opinion. That player was banned for about five years if I remember well, then he came back and even rejoined the national team because of his talent. At the same time, he still causes trouble everywhere he goes which is also a funny thing.

So far, your comment simply answered the question.
It seems there is some sort of agreement under the contract that, when breached, will cause for immediate termination. One term for agreement could be adhering to the Football standard. Any player who acts against the FIFA player standard will have an immediate termination of contract. I think only termination of the contract can prevent a player not to receiving his usual wage from the club.


Title: Re: What comes next after a ban?
Post by: hyudien on November 19, 2025, 07:12:10 PM

I have one question, if he faces a ban will his recent contract with Chelsea be automatically terminated, or will he still receive wages until the contract expires?
Let me hear your thoughts on this.


In my opinion, it's based on the terms of both parties contracts. Typically, even if a player is found to be using doping, they will still receive their salary from their club until their contract expires. For example Pogba, as far as I remember is still receiving his salary from Juventus. However Chelsea will likely seek to stop paying Mykhailo Mudryk salary if he is found guilty of doping as his salary is substantial and he would be given a four-year suspension, which would be very detrimental to Chelsea.


Title: Re: What comes next after a ban?
Post by: EluguHcman on November 19, 2025, 07:29:13 PM
For a player to be ban should be that he is not participating in the league in that entire sanctions duration.
So clubs that hires such players may decide to terminate the contract or Will reduce the agreement pays not in full again.

Of course it is a big lost for the club and will not afford to meet up agreement when his service is not active.


Title: Re: What comes next after a ban?
Post by: Porfirii on November 19, 2025, 07:44:06 PM
Wasn't one of DT's sons ideating some sort of Olympics where doping would be encouraged? Something like discovering/unleashing the true potential of the human body? First substances, then implants, etc? For the duration of the sanction, he may be interested in applying...  ::)

As per his contract with Chelsea, unless we have access to it, we're just rambling: the obvious thing would be that there is a clause prohibiting it, but chances are that all mentions to doping are omitted on purpose, for various reasons.


Title: Re: What comes next after a ban?
Post by: Justbillywitt on November 19, 2025, 07:52:46 PM
The club won't pay him, the club will have to terminate his contract because what led to the ban was not from the side of the club, it was the recklessness of the player that caused the ban, so the club will cancel his contract and release him. If he is lucky the club won't push for damages due to his inability to fulfill the terms of his contract with them. But if what led to the ban is from the side of the club, they will pay him his salary while serving his ban.


Title: Re: What comes next after a ban?
Post by: Dunamisx on November 19, 2025, 08:07:18 PM
His case still remains under consideration and once they are done deliberating, they either sack him or not, but for now, there's no cognitive conclusion regarding his case as to what takes effect over the ban threat, while on his own side, to be in such situation shows he must have been involved in related offenses in the past before his misconduct led him to this.


Title: Re: What comes next after a ban?
Post by: Hispo on November 19, 2025, 08:28:14 PM
Well, I believe it pretty much depends on the size of the scandal and the time period the player is going to be banned from playing officially for their club.
Obviously, clubs would not benefit from having players in their payroll which are suspended for committing a serious infraction, so they do not longer have the obligation to pay them anything.

If the scandal is big enough, then it could pretty much mean the end of their career as a player, and the disgraced player would need to dedicate their time and effort to get a different mean of living.


Title: Re: What comes next after a ban?
Post by: Odusko on November 19, 2025, 08:56:57 PM
His case still remains under consideration and once they are done deliberating, they either sack him or not, but for now, there's no cognitive conclusion regarding his case as to what takes effect over the ban threat, while on his own side, to be in such situation shows he must have been involved in related offenses in the past before his misconduct led him to this.
This is why players are always advised to always put in their best in their character and I quit agree with you people that he have Cases of misconduct and everything will be blamed on his illegal drug usage, so is very important for players to always be in their best of frame mind while discharging their duties at the club's to avoid such cases.


Title: Re: What comes next after a ban?
Post by: robelneo on November 19, 2025, 09:02:17 PM

I have one question, if he faces a ban will his recent contract with Chelsea be automatically terminated, or will he still receive wages until the contract expires?
Let me hear your thoughts on this.

If it's an injury, and beyond his control, and because of serving or playing with the team, he should still receive his wages, but if it's because of cheating, the management has a reason to defer paying your wages; they did not expect you to cheat, and doping is cheating the contract.
They may even charge you with breaching the contract, as you are supposed to follow the management and team guidelines on how to play fair.


Title: Re: What comes next after a ban?
Post by: Furious 7 on November 19, 2025, 09:05:46 PM
I think his condition will be the same as Pogba a few years ago when these allegations will be true then indeed he is hopeless.

The contract could be terminated immediately because even forcing the contract will not have any benefit for Chelsea later so why force to continue to undergo a contract while Mudryk cannot do anything.

His career has declined enough when he moved to Chelsea and this doping problem will indirectly make his career sink even more because after all 4 seasons without the hustle and bustle of football or a professional career is clearly not a short time.
It is a little unfortunate actually why he chose this path (if proven) but indeed in the end everything has consequences that must be borne.


Title: Re: What comes next after a ban?
Post by: Eternad on November 19, 2025, 09:06:25 PM
An old news popped out of my X feed today, perhaps more accusations and sanctions will be taking place effectively.
Mykhailo Mudryk to face a ban for four years due to doping before the match.
I have one question, if he faces a ban will his recent contract with Chelsea be automatically terminated, or will he still receive wages until the contract expires?
Let me hear your thoughts on this.


The definite answer on your question relies on the contract terms. Each contract consist of different terms and agreements between team and player to protect their own interests.

I’m sure that the team has something that will protect them on malicious reasons like. Player usually get salary for not playing when they are injured or unable to play due to acceptable circumstances but being banned for illegal activities should be out of question for not paying player salary when he is out.

Logically, this player shouldn’t be paid but still it depends on the contract that he sign if he protected himself on event like this.


Title: Re: What comes next after a ban?
Post by: iBaba on November 19, 2025, 09:40:34 PM
An old news popped out of my X feed today, perhaps more accusations and sanctions will be taking place effectively.
Mykhailo Mudryk to face a ban for four years due to doping before the match.
I have one question, if he faces a ban will his recent contract with Chelsea be automatically terminated, or will he still receive wages until the contract expires?
Let me hear your thoughts on this.

https://talkimg.com/images/2025/11/19/UPrqfg.jpeg
Image source  (https://x.com/livescore/status/1935371377852432869)

Since you dropped this information since after, I've been trying to study what could be his fate after this ban and from what I've seen, the dopping charges came back after that failed test for meldonium and he's going to face up to 4 years ban from what is currently discussed although there are possibilities of him facing a cut down to like 2 years or even less than that like it is seen in the case of Pogba but on your question, his contract will not automatically terminate just because of the ban.


Title: Re: What comes next after a ban?
Post by: Russlenat on November 19, 2025, 09:51:06 PM
The player is banned and not playing anymore, so there’s no reason for him to get paid. Obviously the contract would end too. In some leagues, even when players are suspended, they don’t get paid for that period. So in a case like this, it’s basically like being fired from a job. The contract becomes void, and I’m sure that’s already stated in the agreement to protect both sides.


Title: Re: What comes next after a ban?
Post by: Zoomic on November 19, 2025, 09:57:18 PM
An old news popped out of my X feed today, perhaps more accusations and sanctions will be taking place effectively.
Mykhailo Mudryk to face a ban for four years due to doping before the match.
I have one question, if he faces a ban will his recent contract with Chelsea be automatically terminated, or will he still receive wages until the contract expires?
Let me hear your thoughts on this.

https://talkimg.com/images/2025/11/19/UPrqfg.jpeg
Image source  (https://x.com/livescore/status/1935371377852432869)
Conditions like this are well stated in the contract. So, it is not a new thing. If you are banned for doping, no wages for you and the club and brands sponsoring you will start to withdraw.
What I don't actually know is the re-integration process. I mean if he returns after 4 years his contract will continue. I doubt, because the contract was not paused but totally terminated.
Take the case of Paul Pogba and Juventus for instance, how Pogba was striped of every rights


Title: Re: What comes next after a ban?
Post by: Ivystar5 on November 19, 2025, 10:19:12 PM
Perhaps contract in my opinion seem to include a lot and perhaps even things like ban rules and I'm sure if one gets banned it affects the club contract because the club will taking losses at the point where you're not much of an asset in the club so I believe once you get such ban your ub dismisses you too at the same time. thou the guy on the image could basically return after some years of he's lucky enough for the world to wait on him.


Title: Re: What comes next after a ban?
Post by: DPHOR on November 19, 2025, 10:22:04 PM
I have one question, if he faces a ban will his recent contract with Chelsea be automatically terminated, or will he still receive wages until the contract expires?
Let me hear your thoughts on this.
Contract is based on activities and when he is no longer performing then there is no need for them to be paying for nothing, at least, contracts mean that someone should carried away the specific task that was assigned to him while he is being paid, but when one party doesn't stands according to the reach agreement then there is every possibilities to be terminated and get another player assigned for that particular task, and or maybe whenever the ban is lifted then he can resume playing and also get paid for his performances.


Title: Re: What comes next after a ban?
Post by: Obim34 on November 19, 2025, 10:23:37 PM
If it's an injury, and beyond his control, and because of serving or playing with the team, he should still receive his wages, but if it's because of cheating, the management has a reason to defer paying your wages; they did not expect you to cheat, and doping is cheating the contract.
Injury case is a different scenario, when a player actions are not helping but selfishly the reasons that gets him sanctioned, the club pulls every benefits from the player. No wages till the contract ends, and even if the player should return mid way when his contract is yet to expire after a short ban, I don't think the club will still want to keep such player in the squad, may also depend on the severity of why he was sanctioned.


Title: Re: What comes next after a ban?
Post by: Oluwa-btc on November 19, 2025, 11:22:14 PM

I have one question, if he faces a ban will his recent contract with Chelsea be automatically terminated, or will he still receive wages until the contract expires?
Let me hear your thoughts on this.


When a player fall victim of this circumstances,the first  thing is a ban snd after which he'll be dispatch of his contracts and duties.Automatically every thing is terminated. This is something that's very clear to all players when they tend to sign a contract for that team but some might be fair though allowing you to have access to all the incentives and wages not until the contracts is expired, so then I think most players should be careful on their misconducts.