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According to this head of research André Dragosch, the price on bitcoin is presently good for buying? Does everyone agree or disagree?

We cannot argue against him the price is more cheaper than before, however, how can we be certain that this will not dump again because there are still others who have not sold who will sell during the pump? We cannot trust these bullish people in social media or in those trading forums because they are certainly having a painful feeling for being bagholders.



Is Bitcoin having a fire sale?

The top cryptocurrency’s price plunged to around $82,000 on Friday, extending a month-long sell off that has erased more than $1.4 trillion from cryptocurrency markets.

But for Bitwise’s European head of research, André Dragosch, the crash presents investors with a potentially lucrative opportunity.

“Bitcoin could still trade lower in the short term until a clear bullish catalyst emerges,” Dragosch told DL News. “But these would be ‘firesale valuations’ and very attractive entry points to build exposure to Bitcoin.”

How low can it go? Well, Dragosch is eyeing up support between $81,000 and $73,000 — the cost basis for BlackRock’s IBIT and Strategy’s holdings, along with Bitcoin’s former all-time high. Below that, he argues, Bitcoin becomes a screaming buy.

Read in full https://www.dlnews.com/articles/markets/fire-sale-valuations-for-btc-price-says-bitwise/

I agree on this, because those that buy will soon be grateful for taking such decision after which the market begins to rise, I've been seeing the indication that the market is trying to make a supporting level as it advances above $85,000 and once this is being maintained till the new week, we should expect a blast from the market sending it to rise the more to $90,000 and a something close to $100,00 and I got this convection from the recent fall taking us back to $80,000 and if it will rise, expect something more than $90,000 as well.

The most important thing right now is to avoid posting for a low-IQ audience, viewing the current market situation. Optimism about the BTC price remains strong amidst short selling by several large players from other bubbles that haven't yet burst.

The signal now is, are we buying? Because they're not completely exiting the market, but rather shifting capital gains into the cash flow machine, and then returning to BTC. I think it's simple. The shift in many people to buying gold is also valid; I'm choosing the safest option first.

The current key level is $80,000, and the possibility of a false positive continues before the real one arrives.

Of course it's a discount price as the last all time high is around $126k. The question is are we in the bear market or not? Because if we are then, then the price will very much continue to decline and who knows what will be the bottom or the lowest low. But if we are not then, and we think that we can still go up in the future or at least first quarter of the year then take advantage of the price right now and then when we hit the peak of the bull run then sell and squeeze some profits. And if you're really into the picture and wanted to hold at least in the next 4 years then why not? So let's see how the market will react, if the decline will continue or we will have a recovery at least to $90k then $100k next year.

I believe this is the best time to buy Bitcoin. The price of Bitcoin has dropped significantly, so it is very important to buy more Bitcoin with your own confidence and as much as you can. Bitcoin long-term investment system when we consistently buy Bitcoin with this mindset and hold it for the future, we can reach our specific goals and protect ourselves from inflation. Those who buy Bitcoin at this time and hold it for the future can definitely expect to get long-term benefits.

Anytime is actually the best time to buy Bitcoin, but people could get more higher advantage if they buy Bitcoin at current stage since they can able to grab lots of Bitcoin compare if they start when price of Bitcoin is so high.

Still profitability depends on the action done by investor if they aim for better situation and in case of Bitcoin this coin is always better for long term.

People need to deal with situation properly and choose what's best, since if they go short term on Bitcoin there's a chance that they might get those target they want since short term volatile movement is risky for those people who trade their Bitcoin in that timeline.

Bitcoin is know to be unpredictable but right now its unpredictability is actually higher as the market fluctuates more and to me it’s the best to just treat this current market condition as a bearish trend and also make necessary preparations to actually buy more if there ever was a plan of doing that and if you are in the mix of maybe the price might actually changes then this is the most perfect time to simply DCA your way in.

Now I see you predicting the market to possibly rise by next year, no problem about this but to be honest it’s never a good idea to have short term plans for me if you’re investing into bitcoin the target should be really for a longer time most probably for a full bitcoin cycle (4 years) and more, this saves one from all this short term volatility

One of the best moments for investors  so far in this year 2025. Some are busy selling while others are busy buying knowing fully well the glory they have ahead because certainly there would be a rise again any time soon. That's just how a proper market structures work. There would always be fluctuations in process of products so no need to parnic. That's why a good investor will always prepare for times.auch as this as sizes all the opportunity to buy and accumulate as much as he would while waiting for  the bullish season.

This is a good question

Do you not know that any fall in bitcoin price is a very good opportunity to buy more? If you do not know that, you have known that now.

If bitcoin price fall more, it is also good to buy more. You will really be happy later when bitcoin get to ATH.

There is usually no single correct answer to this type of question. If you started buying bitcoin when it was worth £3,000 and you already have a good amount, it may not be worth buying into this dip, but simply continuing to hold. On the other hand, if you are starting now and do not have a long-term vision, then it is probably not the best idea. And there are many cases in between.

I can say nothing less than to point out too advantage of the present market conditions.
1: if you bought bitcoin at a price around 100k and above you have to keep holding to avoid sellat a lose have a long-term views.
2: if you sold at the top above 120kBTC then this is a huge discount price for you as it is you buying at a much cheaper price.

I definitely agree with his opinion, now is definitely a good time to buy Bitcoin. Those who have not invested in Bitcoin for a long time should buy Bitcoin now and enrich their portfolio. Although I consider every stage of Bitcoin as the right stage for investment. Those who are real investors and who have a good idea about investment do not panic when the price of Bitcoin decreases relatively slightly, but they take it as an opportunity to buy Bitcoin at that low price. I think those who have financial support should invest more now. At the current level of Bitcoin, if the price of Bitcoin exceeds $100,000 in the next few months, there will still be good profits in this short time and if the investor holds it for a long time, the chances of profit from his investment will increase further.

honestly watching everyone panic over 82k is kinda funny considering where we came from mere years ago getting a discount from 126k should be seen as a blessing not a curse but thats human nature for you fear always kicks in at the best buying opportunities i dont know if this dragosch guy is right about the exact bottom being 73k but playing the waiting game is dangerous you might wake up and see green candles and regret not grabbing some sats now just dca and chill is the only way to survive this volatility without losing your hair.

The DIP is always the best time to buy bitcoin and so yes, this is actually the best time to buy bitcoin. as the market is down, any bitcoin you are able to accumulate at this point in time will give you good profit when the market goes high again and you decides to sell at that point. i have seen a lot of investors that are lamenting of not selling when bitcoin was above $120k and yet, same investors have not considered that failing to accumulate enough bitcoin at this point that the market is down will eventually lead to further complains when we go back to the season of bull.

Getting everyone to agree (or disagree) on anything is pretty much impossible.  ;)

Bitcoin price is down right now, sure, but that doesnt automatically make it a sure thing.  Dragosch has got a point, though - big money buying in usually means its a good time to get in for the long haul.  But being skeptical is smart too.  Personally, when it comes to financial decisions, I block out social media entirely.  They are usually just pushing their own agenda anyway.

I think the safest choice this time is for selling, not buying.

Even though people missed to sell at $125K or $120K above, but if they sold their coins now, they're still in profit assuming they hold when the price was quite cheap. If Bitcoin crash, the price would be low enough and they can accumulate Bitcoin again. Rather than holding or buy Bitcoin with the hope December Bitcoin will break new ATH, I find it's too much expectation.

The price of Bitcoin is very cheap and it is a good price to buy more Bitcoin.  This is an opportunity that hodlers won't miss out. It makes no sense not buying Bitcoin by think the price of Bitcoin will still fall. It makes sense to buy now that is low and even if the price of Bitcoin falls again you dont need to feel bad because it is an opportunity to buy more Bitcoin in the future.  Real hodlers, even as the price of Bitcoin is falling, hodlers are not panic about it is because it is an opportunity for accumulating more bitcoin.

Most Bitcoin haters will definitely try to create fuds around the present Bitcoin discounted price and only the gullible and weak hands will get worked up by that, the vas majority of investors with knowledge are busy buying back right now, because discounted price offers more chances and opportunity to profits More when the price slide back up trend again.

If we actually subscribe to the idea of buying the low, then I think it’s appropriate to buy Bitcoin at this current market price. Should anyone be waiting for Bitcoin to further dip, that could easily translate into a lost opportunity because, Bitcoin haven’t gone way past $125k for an ATH have been able to dump to a price about $88k and $90k. These are price limits that wasn’t previously speculated and so, not buying at these prices could prove to be a mistake.

Its good to buy if you like to buy regularly not just once.  It seems possible there is a gap in volume from this pricing down to the 2024 highs, if that should prove true and price does slip it will require repeated buying.
  Its good to buy but sure you arent searching for instant rewards and returns the next day week or even month.  Otherwise I think that is correct advice.

I have said this before but this is the best opportunity for anyone that have finance to buy bitcoin right now so that it will hold for long time so that whenever the price of Bitcoin increases in the value you link sir and make profit because at this point the price is decreasing it will letter, increases so it will be good that we utilize this opportunity by buying more of Bitcoin so that by 2026 the price may increase and will make profit and some of us who like to hold for long time I think it is the our best time to purchase at the price drops and the hold even though it is 2 years or 3 years holding we can hold it until when bitcoin will return to high price

For anyone who thinks he can stsndthe pressure with the bitcoin market volatilities,  should take a bow and leave the scene for a while, i dont see the need for all this media hyping and fear creating speculations that is coming up in the last few days that the bitcoin market made a significant dip down correction.

For those thay already have knowledge of the time, their are buying and for those that have less experience they busy following the news.

But whales already position and building up golden hands.

If they bought at a low price of around $50K then selling now is still profitable while buying high is not logical to sell at a loss.
There are also those where they are better off holding on while accumulating more bitcoin than selling it more holding and indeed every investor has different principles in the strategy for bitcoin, the most important thing is when it drops sharply it's time to buy and prepare your spare money.

I was trying to get an image uploaded which contains my analysis on the chart of bitcoin but it seems talkimg is down for some days now. Well I did my analysis on bitcoin and the results I got is simple. There is a major support and resistance zone which price has been repecting for a while now and that is the $74k zone. If you check the market chart, it's obvious we've had several testing and retracements on that zone. However I'm expecting price to do same and that means, I'm anticipating price to fall a little bit to $74k. Which implies that we are actually in a good buying zone, one shouldn't miss this lucrative opportunity the market has given, by fixing their minds on the dip and how much of profits they're losing so far but grab this opportunity which will pay handsomely when price retraces back to the ATH zone. It might take a while but provided your aim is centered on long term then waiting shouldn't be a problem.

What is their is that in cryptocurrency will can't automatically knows what tomorrow hold for anyone, because in the next one months the market will increase and you benefited in it so patience is indeed a virtue,but what if you didn't hold that means you would have lost all so keep waiting and Make research over it to know what you actually need before you sell.

Yes, long-term investment is always profitable and will help a person financially in the future. Right now we can see that the price of Bitcoin has come down a lot and the way the price has come down, it was definitely the best moment to invest, many investors bought from here. If we invest right now and hold Bitcoin for a long time, then it is definitely possible to get good financial profits. However, if we invest in Bitcoin, it is for our future to plan for it and invest in Bitcoin to improve our financial position. Bitcoin will enter a stage in the future that we can currently predict, so we should buy Bitcoin and hold it for the long term.

With the current Bitcoin market price trading at a better level, buying Bitcoin at any time is a good idea for long-term goals such as preserving value for the future or, more precisely, achieving financial freedom.
Buying at $85,000 or $100,000 are both good options, and I don't categorize either as bad. The only difference is the amount of Bitcoin you get for the same amount of money.

In the long term, no one will incur losses, and everyone will always be in a profitable position; the size of the profit simply depends on the amount of Bitcoin held.
In the short term, people can also make a profit if their actions align with their goals.

It's not a bad time to buy, as bitcoin is down more than 30% from its peak, but I don't think it's the best time to buy nor is it the time to go all in. Because Bitcoin is more likely to experience sharp declines when the bear market arrives, and that is certain to happen.

So I won't give any advice and for me any advice at this point is not trustworthy. Or asking for advice from others is also a bad idea, because none of us knows what will happen next. Whether or not to buy bitcoin at this point is a personal decision, we should do our own research, analysis and make our own predictions.

Honestly, those who advise that this is a good time to buy and even call it the perfect time. I'm asking honestly, have any of you bought it? Or do you not dare to buy because you are afraid that the price will fall further if a bear market really comes but still calmly give advice to others?

Because today I see famous people who gave hundreds of bullish advice and predictions about bitcoin and were praised by you guys, have sold their own Bitcoin. Not long ago, when bitcoin was above $100k, he was still shouting that this is a good time to buy bitcoin and the price will reach $250k, $500k, but now he is selling it for $90k.  ;D ;D ;D

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/11/23/UPW6zc.png
https://x.com/theRealKiyosaki/status/1991936172860563661

The current Bitcoin price is a very good price to buy having seen the ATH which it has created and the expectation of reaching there again is always possible, just a matter of time and patience.



For me, I am holding my Bitcoin, I didn't sell at Bitcoin's ATH of $125k, of which I am kind of regretting not having sold at that highs, well I'm just holding no matter the direction, while the funds for my altcoins where pushed to stable coins waiting to jumping in again when a satisfying green light shows.

I one thousand percent agree that Bitcoin is currently experiencing a significant discount. This is the same pattern that Bitcoin has experienced over the past few years, and it keeps repeating itself.

By the way, there are two types of people exiting the market: those who take profits and buy back at a lower price, and those who cut their losses and feel they've lost in the market. I feel sorry for the second group because they're impatient and have faith in Bitcoin.

Getting into the bitcoin bandwagon jas been everyone's wish, also buying more bitcoin at a cheaper price is what most long-term investors seek. This is the best time for anyone to buy bitcoin and hodli because the price is cheap. I believe that we have one last chance to see this price again. So, don't let this opportunity pass you by.

Its a fire-sale which cannot and must not be missed.

I certainly jumped in with both feet and made a few purchases.

Nobody knows what way the market will go, up or down but I would rather have
bought now and the market to drop than not buy and the market to rise. I have
already bought at $112k and If the market should drop further I will buy again.

The trouble is though that there are those who wont buy for fear of the market
dropping further.
 

There is an old saying in this forum that there is no bad or wrong time to buy bitcoin and i like to think that statement hodls some truth in it. I do not pay attention to research experts or any kind of expert that gives advice to people on when to buy or sell their coins, i like to do my own reserach and discuss with bitcoiners on this forum and then make my own decision.

That said, it is easier said than done to advise people to buy bitcoin when the price is falling, many people would turn it down and tell you they do not want to "catch a falling knife", which is understandable. But it is always better to buy low and sell high, so if you are a long term investor, you should aim to buy bitcoin when there is a dip, rather than FOMO buy when it starts to pump high.

There shouldn't be any form of concern about the reaction of the market to negatively influence those of us that already have a four year and above holding time line because present conditions should interpretes that the journey has just began where the focal point now should be to buy as possible as we can in preparation of next reaction of the market, the decline might continue but recovery seems so positive and possible to happen to at least more than $100k at the first quarter of next year.

Not just you, most people regret not selling when bitcoin price was above $125k, including me. The truth is, most of us set our expectations too high and unrealistically high, and now we all feel a little regretful.

But as I said, I believe not many people dared to buy when bitcoin price dropped to $82k in the past few days. But the funny thing is, they’re perfectly comfortable giving buy advice to others at this moment.

Honestly, in my opinion, people should not buy at this point because a bear market is inevitable and we will not lack better buying opportunities.

Based on what we've seen throughout Bitcoin's appreciation since its creation, I agree that now is the time to buy, or wait a little longer and buy even cheaper. This might be a great opportunity for anyone wanting to invest in Bitcoin. However, if it starts to fall too much, it's best to be cautious, as it could mean something is wrong.

What I like about the Bitcoin price fall is that it comes back strong with an increased price more than the price it had before.

If Bitcoin should decrease from $126k to $83k within a month, it can still pump that higher within a month or two, depending on the influx of the market that positive news can generate.

I believe, this might be a good buying point if we are ready for hold for a long term. I would personally wait for some more time to see price dipping more before I can make buying decisions but it might just bring risk for a few. We might even miss the opportunity if the price reverts back. I do think that the bears have returned to the market and usually in this case, the market remains bearish for a while before making any gains so I think this is the reason why I will still hold my buy orders.

I will start buying immediately if I see any positive news as recently fundamentals are playing an important role to decide the faith of bitcoins. I need constant monitoring for it and I am ready to invest my time. I will not suggest others to do the same, instead they can just start buying as we already are in a dip. For long term, this can only be profitable.

Fear and greed index in all time lows is always a good opportunity and this time was no different.

If you bought the lows of 80k, you're up 10% today. To compare, if you bought the November dip on gold, you're up only 5%. My stock index ETF made 5% in the last 3 months and my savings account makes 3% a year!

People have these numbers before them and they still criticize bitcoin for being a bad investment, or being boring. Either they choose to ignore math, or they can't count.

The skeptical me is thinking that there might be a powerful group of people in America that supports Circle's USDC and they might be starting to make everyone think that Tether is not safe.

Another skeptical speculation is that American government might want stablecoin issuers like Tether to hold more US treasuries in their balance sheet. Will this downgrade on Tether cause them to dump some bitcoin to buy US treasuries? This will be headshaking for the market.



S&P downgrades Tether’s stability rating to ‘weak’ as Bitcoin holdings exceed safety buffer

Tether’s ability to maintain its dollar peg was downgraded by the S&P Global Ratings agency, citing a dangerous shift toward riskier assets in the world’s largest stablecoin’s reserves.

On Tuesday, the rating agency reassessed Tether to 5, labeled “weak,” from 4, labeled “constrained.” The Stablecoin Stability Assessment now puts Tether in the same category as TrueUSD, which has lost access to nearly all its reserves.

Meanwhile, Tether’s largest competitor, Circle’s USDC, holds an S&P rating of 2, labeled “strong.”

High-risk assets including Bitcoin, gold, secured loans, and corporate bonds now account for 24% of total reserves, up from 17% in September 2024. Bitcoin exposure has also grown to 5.6% of circulation, exceeding the safety buffer for the first time. A Bitcoin crash combined with losses in other risky assets could leave USDT undercollateralised.

And the problem is that in the past month, Bitcoin has crashed by 20%.

Read in full https://www.dlnews.com/articles/markets/top-ratings-agency-downgrades-tether-stability-to-weak/

There is no need to speculate, because that is exactly what the US wants and why they quickly passed the GENIUS Act just for stablecoins. The GENIUS Act requires stablecoins that want to operate in the US market to be backed 1:1 by safe assets such as cash, bank deposits or Treasury bonds.

However, S&P's downgrade of Tether's stability rating won't change anything. Because as far as I know, Tether is reportedly planning to create a stablecoin specifically for the US market. They have no intention or plan to seek to legalize USDT in the US and eurozone markets.

Tether seems to have bigger plans as they become one of the companies with the largest gold reserves in the world and could be on par with central banks like South Korea.

https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2025/11/20/tether-s-gold-hoard-surges-to-116-tons-rivals-small-central-banks

Bitcoin is indeed having a big sale, or you could say it's on discount because its price is falling, especially a few days ago when, as I recall, BTC fell to around $80k. So, anyone who took advantage of that moment by buying BTC has definitely made a profit now because the price of BTC is currently rising. The current price of BTC is around $90k. Fortunately, I bought BTC at $81k and am now making a profit if I sell it now. However, I see the potential for BTC prices to rise again because the bullish season may not be over yet. But I also want to know where you think BTC prices are headed—will they continue to rise or fall? But right now, I feel sorry for those who sold BTC when the price dropped and ended up suffering losses due to panic. However, in my opinion, the current BTC price can still be considered cheap because the upcoming increase could be even better, potentially leading BTC to set a new all-time high. But one thing is certain: we must be prepared for the risks.

It appears that there are people who are speculating that this present fire sale that bitcoin is presently having might become a fire sale of the present fire sale hehehe.

I am shaking my head vigorously now and I am praying wishfully that we will not dump anymore. This has been very painful feelings similar to 2022. This analyst is bullish for 2026, however.



Expect deeper price drawdowns as Bitcoin’s ‘maturing phase’ continues, says analyst

The recent brutal price drawdown isn’t the end of the cycle but instead a sign that the market is maturing, says Fabian Dori, chief investment officer at Sygnum bank, who argues that sharper swings should be expected as Bitcoin transitions from fringe speculative asset to a more established market.

“From a cycle perspective, we see a maturing phase rather than an ending one,” Dori wrote in a Thursday note to clients. “Volatility and drawdowns could indeed become more pronounced — but the macro environment remains supportive.”

Read in full https://www.dlnews.com/articles/markets/expect-more-price-turmoil-as-bitcoin-matures-says-analyst/

First thing to say is for sure you can scale in but to say we know the future price is not the case.   I doubt I will get my wish which is for the previous years highs to be seen at least for a day, so all the way back to 2021 prices, I want the high price to be buyable now because with reference to all that time others have held & you are skipping the queue!

  BTC price fall like right now should be seen as like a black friday sale, rather then some absolute negative.  I do my best to always remember the price in a market is like an advert or price tag in a supermarket, its there to entice buyers it doesnt mean its forever or 100% accurate but the market always must provide buyers a reason to be buying on every single day even the holiday this day.

I agree that many people lost the opportunity to sell when bitcoins were at a peak of $125k because they believed in long term growth. I do not think they made a mistake but they just will need to hold their orders for much longer duration now. I do not see buying opportunity yet because I am expecting further dump but still just to be on a safer side, I have started buying smaller portions so I can average my entry price if the price keeps dropping. I do not want to miss this opportunity to buy bitcoins as they are already on sale as of now.

I think holiday season has made bitcoins go on sale and this should just be an another buying opportunity for all those who missed to sell at peak. They can still continue buying and holding for a couple of months before they can start seeing the profits.

Its not a fire sale its black friday or thanksgiving or just holiday season this whole month till year end basically.   Abnormal times can create anti trend movements and distortion.

  What I see at the present is weakness and a need for Bitcoin to prove its recovery.  With weaker dollar apparent its quite possible but I see a fight ahead, price is lower but always assess risk and your capital flow.