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This comes to my mind right now as Burnley vs Chelsea match is going on, that is why i decided to create this thread to see some reactions here, so do you agree with me that your prediction on sports betting can make you support the particular teams to win even when it is your club that you fans or support when it comes to football, likewise me that is watching Burnley vs Chelsea I'm supporting Chelsea to win Burnley because my money is at stake, which on my online sports betting, I bet Chelsea to win Burnley so indirectly I'm following all Chelsea fans to support  them to be victorious in today match but i can change my support the the day Chelsea will finally meet the team that I'm supporting i have changed on my because i support against my club, so it could happen to any one right?

If I understand it right, you mean you’ll become a fan of the team you’re betting on?

For me, I’m more into checking stats, and I don’t want to be a fan of the team I’m betting on because I know it might affect my judgment. When it comes to betting, I separate being a fan and being a gambler. As a fan, I’d be biased, but as a gambler, I try to use logic.

I'm not the type of gambler who bets on a single match and ultimately backs a particular team. I'm just a gambler who bets on a team I think has a chance of winning. Like the match that's currently underway, and perhaps we have a little bit of that in this bet, where I also bet on Chelsea. When we support a particular team, it doesn't mean we're supporting it; it's just a bet that we hope will win.

It's different from being a fan of a particular club. I rarely bet when my favorite team faces a tough opponent, as I don't want to risk such a bet on my favorite club. So, I can be sure the bet I place is nothing more than a gamble, not a supporter of that team or other reasons.

this is quite a normal situation; i've even seen people place bets to make the games they watch more enjoyable. it's entirely a matter of balance because even if you don't normally like or sympathize with a team, the money you put on the line and could win can push you down that path. the value of that money probably outweighs your indifference toward the team, so you start rooting for that team's success for your own benefit, just for that one game.

that's actually why i don't like betting against my own team. it means wishing ill on a team you've loved unconditionally your whole life, just for money.

Because you have placed a stake for that reason you are now wishing them will to be victorious,but you have your own team at mined ,yes that's the mindset of every gambler,they gamble to win ,not just the team you fans but in all clubs, because if it's only on the team you fans that someone should only place bet ,the person is not a gambler but just fans we gamble in all the team with the mindset of making money out of it...

I can agree with you on this, because that's the truth and I also do it as well. my prediction sometimes always make me to support a club that I'm not even Fanning them in the first place, but because I predicted them on my slip to win I will support them to win as well. And currently I am supporting Chelsea, not because I am interesting in the club, beside I don't even like Chelsea in the first place but today I'm joining Chelsea fan's to support their guragura club just for today because they are on my bet slip. And let me break something down here, and some person's may also be doing same thing with me. I am a Manchester United fan and no matter the club Manchester United is playing against I won't bet against my club Manchester United, or instead of me to bet against my club Manchester United I rather not bet at all.

I disagree. hoping for the team you're betting on to win doesn't qualify as a fan. But, it's simply supporting the team you're betting on to win, after the match ended, you will not support the team again until you are betting for that team once again. a fan will support the team at any time, whether while betting for this team or not. just like, if your favorite team is Chelsea, no need to bet for Chelsea to support them. So, your hope for team you are betting for win just a supporter for that match. IMO

I think it's normal? When you put your money to bet on a team, you definitely hope the result matches your bet, whether you are a fan or not. 
Sometimes I bet on the opposing team facing the team I support. You may be a fan of a team, but that doesn't mean you will always bet on your team to win. 
If you don't want to have inner conflict, you can choose not to bet.

Before, where you actually expecting Burnley to win?

You know I barely see people saying that they are fanning burnley, I know that thier fans is all over the world but I'm speaking of my country precisely I mean the side I'm coming from I have never seen anyone mentioning burnley as thier favorite team just like we proudly say that we are a core fan of chelsea. I think what you're trying to ask is if for example we bet burnley to win chelsea and meanwhile chelsea is my favorite that am i going to support them to win? If that's what you're trying to say then of course I would support the team I bet on and if my favorite team eventually win then I will also be happy.

In any bet which team is playing the goal is for the bet to win? Don't consider yourself a fan of that team?

The team as the favorite in the bet is considered a fan, for me not so the concept is that I am here making bets and which one has which opportunity then that is what is at stake no matter the other team, for example, who beats my fan club.

Betting for money, no matter what team if favored by the bookies will still be bet. ;D

I wonder how you can do that if it's not a bet that you see as consolation/compensation for your club's potential defeat. It’s hard for me to imagine betting against Real Madrid, no matter which team and in what condition Real Madrid is playing. Although you know, if you think about other clubs I support, it's possible. For example, United  ;D Not anymore, but for several years betting against them (especially in games with underdogs) was more profitable than not.

You're probably just driven by emotion, well, that will fade so better be a gambler if you want to gamble and be a fan if you'll be one (well, long term it is though). Some of the time if we knew our team isnothe favorite it's not that bad if you're leaning on the other team for your money. You can still cheer deep inside for your team and just disregard the bet on the opposing team because that will have it's time later on in your bankroll.

I think you're making a mistake if you let fanaticism directly influence your bets. If you don't want to go against the team for moral reasons, I would simply not include that match in my bets if I were you, unless it has a real chance of winning. Because if we bet out of fanaticism, we're destined to lose, which is the interesting point here.

We must learn to put aside hunches, superstitions, and fanaticism, in order to make realistic bets on sports.

You see, before one can place a bet, you have to run some background checks and analyze on their strength and weakness before knowing which option to play for on the market, when your team also faces another strong team and you see how difficult it could be for them to win, then you know what option as well to take when picking your markets and play with caution, because gambling could come at any length.  

Sport bettors can be a fan of any club but can only be a supporter of their one club which is usually their main club that they don't normally like to give up on, both in times or lose and win. There is a substantial difference between being a fan and a supporter, a fan can be enthusiastic about any team he bets on everyday, it's normal and majority of us does that, and that's just what you are trying to explain @OP, because I placed a bet on team A I fan them for that day and I'm enthusiastic to see that they are winning and that my bet will be successful, that's normal among bettor. If you are a supporter of a club, you will show true loyalty and commitment to that club even through thick and thin, supporters is not same as fan.

Perfectly said, being a fan should not becloud our judgement towards a possible reality of a match. There is no need of being a fan of every team we bet on just because we want the outcome to turn out in our favor. We shouldn't be sentimental when it comes to sports betting even when it involves a club that we fan. So far as sports betting is concerned, there are sometimes we even feel like betting against the team we fan because at that point, it is about the money and not about our loyalty to the team.

Yes, providing support or fanning comes spontaneously, we don't have to be genuine fans of the club, because when we place a bet on the club concerned, of course the desire to support it will appear automatically.

This kind of behavior often happens to gamblers, for example they are fans of the Arsenal club, but because today the match is Burnley vs Chelsea, because they have to place a bet and are sure that Chelsea will win, Of course the nature of their support doesn't have to be those playing Arsenal, Chelsea also fan them during betting, that's a common thing and often happens.

In short, you became an emotional gambler.

You are a fan. It's difficult to decide the legitimate winner if you are one-sided. It means you are not up for the job/hobyy. When you want gambling to be taken seriously, it should start with you.

I have been  a gambler for a long and espercially a sports bettor but I have never been on the point that I regretted giving out free money, foor, or a meal because I know that I am the one just trying to ask for help and not them.

If you bet a club to win, you automatically support that club until the match is over even though you are a fan of another club. There have been many instances I support certain teams to win because I put money in them, not because they are my club. However, there are also people that bet against their main club so that when they win, they are happy and when their club loses, they use the money won to drink away the pain.

Gambling is not as we thought sometimes, because even the so called club we think we supported may end up disappointing us surprisingly, this is why until the end of the match, we don't know who may win or not, we should also make our predictions base on how convinced we are, however, this is also subjected to if they can also perform the same way you have expected  of them to play, because sometimes, the entire plan changed on the pitch and we begin to see another part of the game entirely.

The truth is that when it comes to gambling, people will choose or prioritize their interests over even their own club. In gambling, you have to be realistic in your predictions and avoid sentiment. If your club is playing against another club that has always had better performance than yours, you will choose the other club to win, and since money is involved, you might wish for that club to win over your own.

Supporting a club when money is not involved allows for sentimentality in your judgment and predictions, but when money is at stake, you have to be realistic and might even want the club you bet on to win against your own.

I don't bet and become a fan of that club, I become a fan and I support the team to win even if they are not on the stronger side and I may choose to bet a small amount to see if I made it too but more often I don't choose the winner based on the emotional attachment. And yes more loyal fans can be influenced to bet towards their team and keep supporting them no matter what even if they have long history of losing against the particular team.

Just because we bet on the team that high odds to win, and do you think we're fan of that club? What a dumb question is this! We bet on the team that gives us highest probability, and it's not caused by we're a fan of them.

And our response, whether we're casual fans or supporters, is quite different when we place a bet. Every minute of the match is always in their hands. If we're not betting, everyone's focus is solely on the game. But when we place a bet, two focuses emerge: who will win, and where our bet will go, but everyone wants to win both.

But it's true, as you said above, there's true loyalty and commitment to the club if we're truly fans and supporters. That feeling doesn't disappear and persists after the match is over, and it doesn't come when the betting begins. Chelsea.

The thing is, when it comes to sport betting, bettors must learn to put their bias aside, and bet on the better side. I have seen a lot of bettors who bet on a certain club to win despite them not being the favorite. Take for example now, in the case of this Burnley vs Chelsea game that you mentioned, despite Chelsea being the better side, there are people who will bet on Burnley to win, just because they're not actual fans of Chelsea or for others reasons that has to do with their own bias.

Of course, betting on a team to win automatically makes you a supporter, but it's not a big deal. After that day of placing that bet, you won't care about the club again.

I don’t necessarily view it as you being a fan of Chelsea because you’re rooting for them to win that particular game so you’d win your bet, what is happening there is simply a gambler wishing that the team he’s supporting “at the moment” wins, so that he too wins his bet, he’s doing it because that’s where his value of interest lies at that moment.

A fan wouldn’t be switching from one club to another just because of bets, you could be a die hard fan of man united and still pray for another team to win simply because your bet is on them, it’s just business at that point nothing more, nothing less.

No I do not have to be a fan of a team I predict to win. It is called being objective, buddy. I can say that this team has a higher chance of winning but still hope for my own favorite team to somehow beat all odds and win unexpectedly. Not all fans are fans of the best performing teams currently. Sports fans support whoever they like.

In my case, the teams I bet on and the teams I'm a fan of are completely different. Because when I bet, I use my brain to analyze and then try to keep my emotions away. And in this case, many times I have to bet against the teams I support. So I disagree with what you're saying, and at least in my case, that's not how it actually works.

And besides, I think it's stupid to do this, because a team can be supported by someone who is weak, and in that case, if he supports the weak team and stakes on that team when betting, then his chances of losing are high.

When it comes to betting it is best for it to have no connection with favoritism, when predicting a match you must always make sure you consider logic over supporting your favorite team. Chelsea are in a better form than Burnley so if I were a Burnley fan and I wanted to bet on this game I would go for the most logical option here which is chelsea to win, betting this way would help you avoid unnecessary losses

I don't really see it as you been a fan. I think that you supporting them temporarily doesn't make you a fan..a fan is someone who supports the team all the time wether they lose or win..that sort of team.
It may even be that you don't like the team but you support them because you want the opposing team to lose, because when they face the real team that you support, you wouldn't be suwpporting them anymore.. a temporary support for a team does not make you a fan

Everyone of us support the team they bet on during their game play while we are watching the games and hoping to have a win. This is normal behavior and sometimes I have even bet against my favorite team in the local league which I follow every weekend and right now I am preparing to go to the stadium despite heavy rain going outside, this is what a football fan is all about, though there have been times when I knew that my team was not in the best of their performance so I have bet against them and while not hoping for them to lose I was happy to get the winning amount by betting against them, I don't know how to call this behavior but it is what it is. So most of the times we are fans of teams we bet on, like in Champions League for example where we follow the games and hope the teams we have chosen to bet are going to win their games.

You just confirm the saying that you put your mouth where your money is and no doubt about that. You can't begin to support a team as you bet against them even if they are playing fantastically well. There must be a biase because your money is at stake and even if you team is not doing the best they can, you will not support the opposite team. The only time you can support a team against your bet is when you must have lost hope in their performance at the late stage of the game if you see that come back is going to be difficult. What I do is that I avoid betting against the team I'm following. In this way I can be on a fair ground to watch my game and enjoy unbiase few or contribution.

You will always support the club you bet on even if you don't like them. In gambling, I consider the money more than club loyalty. I used to hear people say that your club will not give you any money if they win games. The players and club officials get paid while the fans get no financial benefit. If the win is reasonable, some gamblers can even bet against the club they like.

Previously, congratulations on your winning bet. 

Every match will create a new favorite, and based on analysis, you will place your bet on the team you support. I do the same. Right now, you support Chelsea to win, but when facing another team that you think is stronger and has higher chances of winning, you will support the other team. 
You may not be a hardcore fan of the team you support. But in every match, it is natural for us to have a team or player that is more favored.

Supporting the club you placed a bet on to win has always been the traditional spirit of every gambler right from day one. Because you are literally not supporting the club because you are a fan of it, but you are rather supporting them to win, simply because you know it will benefit you with an extra income if they eventually wins. So I'm pretty sure that you are happy now @ O.P, because Chelsea actually won with 2 goals to nil against Burnley despite having 4 yellow cards by Pedro Neto who scored the first goal at 37 minutes, joao Pedro, Maresca and Badiashile. So was really a lucky day for Chelsea as m they rank 2nd on the league table now with 23 points.

As a gambler my main focus is to make sure I win my bet. Even if it's my rival club that I saw winning potential on I will pick and support. I have supported my rival clubs many times it doesn't change anything. I am not being paid a dime for hating any club. The best I can do is never to buy the jersey of my rival clubs and wear. I can never do that but when it comes to were I use my rival clubs to win bets, I will support them wholeheartedly without any regrets.

I believe this is the case with many individuals. As there is money in the game, it is only natural that emotions change to the team that you think will win. Loyal fans too will occasionally find it difficult to support their own team simply because they bet against them.

In sports betting the prediction can become more relevant than personal loyalty, at least to that match. It does not imply that you ceased to support your club but it is just that betting can affect you in terms of thinking.

So yes, it can happen to anyone. When it comes to the money you have, you have more people on your side.

This is an interesting take and I have also had similar dilemma in my life. Previously In premier league, I used to be a fan of Chelsea, I'm not form England and the fan following might have been initiated from the players I admired the most when I seriously started watching league football. At that moment Frank Lampard and Petr Cech were spectacular.
But as I started gambling in Premier League and as Chelsea kept on losing, I had no choice but to bet against it, it may have depleted my following as a fan as I changed sides many times and have different favourite team in Premier Leauge.
Again even if I bet objectively to win or lose, its not always the best team I root for provided the competitor is not as bad. I don't switch sides just easily. Like for the last season of Premier League even though Liverpool won it comfortably and I did bet and won in Liverpool wins, I was never a fan of Liverpool.

Yes this should be the situation when betting on any club winning then you are supporting it to do its best to win even if you aren't a real fan of that club. This is why experienced people always advice not to bet on clubs we are already fan of because your emotions will never encourage you to make it a loser who ever the opponent. Personally, i like Burnley even i know Chelsea is stronger. Only with the underdog sight that i can bet on Burnley winning, so i better avoid this match.

This is absolutely normal if I understand you correctly, lets say the two team playing against each other are not the club I fan, I decide to bet on one of those clubs to beat the other, definitely I will join the fans of that club I bet on to cheer the team into playing well and winning because their win is also my profit.

But lets say a day comes and this same club have to play against my own club that I fan, my bet will definitely go to my club if I think my club have what it takes to beat that other club, I will support my club to win, but if I am not sure my club will be able to beat that other club, I will not bet on that match, this is to enable me cheer for my favorite club still, atleast if at the end of the match, that other club end up beating my club, I lose nothing in terms of money.

Selecting a team to win in your ticket does not automatically make you become a fan of that club, just that many of us bet on the possible outcome to win, and when such game are played, all your attention and focus will be centered on them. Even if you are not a fan of that team , you will support them to win just for you to make the money.  The point is that we all bet the on the club we expect to win regardless of the team we fan. sometimes people even bet against their club just because they need to win. After all what is the point of betting on your club when you know that they cant delivere or make you win. You betting on Chelsea against Burnley is not a bad idea provided it's not a crime you can go ahead and become a fan because your money is as stake.

It is a normal thing among gamblers that plays sports betting and for the most of them, they can even be supporting burnley on a normal day but because they are playing against a team that they are  sure will win them, for their moment, their team of interest change to Chelsea because what they are actually after is to see that there prediction comes out well as it is being predicted.

when selecting a team, you do so in a manner that is void of emotion such that you don't allow your love for a team determine the team you are predicting to win a certain game. if you are supporting a team that is not all that strong common sense entails that when you are choosing them among your games, you become as neutral as possible so you do not choose games out of emotion.

I agree with what you said, but sometimes it doesn't involve betting on the game because almost all club supporters have an alternative (that is, a second club they like besides their number 1 club). For instance, even though I love Barcelona, I always root for Manchester City in the English Premier League because of one man, who is the team manager.

All aspects of gambling work on a kind of emotion. If I say my truth, I bet on the team that has more support and has a better winning record in the past. And if I win that bet, then I become a fan of that team. I bet on that team in the future when that team plays. All these things are our emotional activities. We cannot handle the greed of money. For this, we like to take risks again and again. Now, once we get some money from somewhere, we consider it as potential. Sports require a lot of patience. It takes a long time for a match to end, so if you win money with such patience, it's natural to become a fan of that team.

You are supporting a club to win doesn't mean you are a fan of that club. It takes more than just supporting a club because of the bet you placed on them to be a fan. If you are a true fan of a club, you must support the club at all times. Whether they lose or win. You should also have a deep emotional attachment towards the team. And most importantly, engage in the communities by following their socials and interacting in any community group of your choice.

It took me 3 tries to somewhat understand the context of what you are saying and tell you what I made this 3 bets on outright winner on this cricket tournament called Champions Trophy, out of these 3 teams, 1 reached finale, and it was against my home & favorite team India. You know how I felt? I felt I would win either way, that is if India wins (which it did), it's my home team that's winning and if india losses I'll be winning the bet.

As a real fan, I will always support the team to win, because it will be hard to stake a game against them, especially when you will want to watch it and there's no way you won't be rooting for your team. To me I would prefer not staking the game out at all or staking for my team to win because gambling is a game of luck, and you can be lucky at it. So I will stake by luck this time.  Every bettor has a club they support, and irrespective of the club playing them, they will always support their team.

This does have sense in it. If you bet on team to win you will want them to win so you can win the game, if you play Both teams to Score, you will want both teams to score so you win, you are not supporting the club because you like the club if you are not their fan, you are supporting the club because you bet on the to win or do you think that you will support Burnley to win when you bet on Chelsea to win.

In the end for sports betting fans what is all boils down to is separating your fandom from your potential to win. It is about putting your money where your mouth is and not about the team you are a fan of. In my estimation, we do it all the time even during the World Cup. You will see that people do not all the time support their country but their money bet determines which team they support. No sentiments attached.

When it comes to gambling I only supports those club that I picked because if lose there is no dey they would get my money back, so when gambling I am strictly on money without minding whether it's my club or not, what matters is that I should be able to make winning while gambling maybe, after the game might have come to an end then I noticed I do not stake anything again then I will keep supporting my team and maybe except I didn't stake anything for that day then I will stick with my club.

This is what the OP should necessitate as a gambler. You don’t allow being a gambler inter whine with you being a fan of a club you want to bet on. They are two different mindsets approach to them and you’ll have to be more careful when carrying out judgements while betting. Some people don’t bet on their club when they know they don’t stand a better chance to win in a game, they gets emotional betting on their club to lose even when it’s obvious they will. So they stick to betting on other clubs they’re not a fan of just not to doubt their judgement while placing a bet.

If you ask a maniac of course you will get the bottom line: they will not move to any club even if the money is lost.

But some people who are still quite rational and look at the statistics and some other supporting data,
they will say that the winner is the one who has the best performance and strategy and the player who still has a lot of full stamina.  

Backing another club if it wins won't be a problem, it's a choice based on your research
and if your club loses then it needs some evaluation to do and you can see what your favorite club's weaknesses are.

Of course any team I bet becomes my favorite team in that initial time, these does not even come for argument because I know that surely anyone that bet on a team be it your favorite team or not the moment you include them in your bet slip definitely they becomes your favorite because I have never seen a gambler that bet on a team and also stand against the team Instead they would stand for the team they bet on. because this is not a demo mode we are talking about here it's real cash, But since I'm a core fan of my club I don't usually bet them to loss even though I know that they are likely to loss I would rather go for other clubs instead of betting them because I can't be bold enough to watch them loss.

This is normal. When it comes to betting, I root for the team I placed my bet on, regardless of whether I’m actually a fan of that team or not. For example, I’m a Flamengo supporter. In a Flamengo vs Botafogo match, I root for Flamengo. But in a Botafogo vs Fluminense match where I bet on Fluminense, I’m going to root for Fluminense. What matters is winning money, not the team you support in real life. In those moments, your favorite team takes second place. What really matters is money in your pocket.

For sure you are in particularly supporting your tickets to win by giving this clubs a thumbs up. And then why you do that. Any other time you see Chelsea with a club you felt will win them you also go on to support/fan your tickets by giving that club a clear win.
So whether directly or indirectly or temporarily you will fan the clubs that will give your bet tickets that all green.

True gambling can make you to support teams. What I have been able to get in my gambling experience alot of gambler's has removed sentiments and emotion's From gambling and so even if they are facing their clubs that they support they try to support the team that they have picked in their betsllip. What is important to the gambler is how he can make money from the process.


Emotions should be removed from gambling and the real fact should be faced that alot of people has grown above just supporting teams a team for nothing. So as far as the team playing is in my slip o will support such a team even if the team is playing the club am supporting.

No. Our predictions have nothing to do with how these teams can win.

They're professionals and they have gameplays to follow with for match they are playing. They have a coach and good players so, it all depends on how good they are.

If they are losing, that's because the opponent is just the better team. But if I am understanding this thread right, you mean that our positive prediction to the teams we're supporting could give that aura and energy from us and make them win, but no.

this guy gets it.

oh hell nah, if i'm betting against my favorite team, i hope they lose, my money is on the line here, lol
tho it does sting when the opposite happens, as i could have won my bet if i believed in them, but doing that won't get me far.

Don't get too biased with yourself. If you are a fan of that team and have been supporting them for a long time, don't let your bets change the way you look at them. Keep your support intact unless you never find it worthy anymore. But if you are just a regular bettor, regardless of what team you're a fan of, you still choose the team that is likely to win. Don’t stress yourself over it. It is just a sport, and you’re free to change your support anytime. As I said, don’t let gambling interfere with your loyalty to a team you’ve loved for years, not without a valid reason.

It's perfectly normal and only natural that you would want to support the team you placed a bet on at that time to win. You would love to have a winning on your bets so supporting a team you ordinarily wouldn't support to win if not for your bets, is the least you could do. In the Burnley vs Chelsea game, I was confident on Chelsea having a win over Burnley and thankfully, they didn't disappoint. Unlike Liverpool. I had thought Liverpool could claim the win over Nottingham forest. They ought to be the stronger and better side but were sadly, beaten again.

It's normal to support a team or several teams based on how you have placed your bets. It happens to the most of us.

It's an obvious thing. If you make a bet on a team, you will support it to win because you want to win your bet. You don't basically care about their position in the league/tournament, or whether they will proceed or will be eliminated, etc. However, you will support them for that specific game because you have money at stake. Every sports bettor would do the same, because it's a common thing, who doesn't want the team that they have a bet on to win? So supporting the team is obvious.

It's different than when you actually support a team, which means that if there is a team or club that you actually support normally, you will always support it whether you have a bet on the team or not, it's because you generally love the team, and you want to it to win always, so whether you bet on it or not, you will still support it, but when you make a bet on a different team, you will support that team for that specific game.

There is a big difference between sponsoring a team we are betting on and sponsoring a favourite team. Whenever we place bets on a team our attention is more on the result of the match to ensure that we win, with no much consideration to the long term performance of the team. It is one thing to support a favourite, however; then, we are emotionally attached to them, and we want them to win, whether or not we bet them. This is what makes the difference between financially motivated gambling and supporting one due to loyalty to a team.

May be the Op thinks gamblers that support a particular team to win usually do that because they are a fan of the club unknown to him that gamblers so all that because of the safety of their tickets and bets. A fan of a club will be so emotional when his team is losing there is a good bound between the team and the fan that's why if the team is not performing well you see their fans angry but they will not stop supporting them.

I think there is a clear difference between hoping the team to win and being a fan of a team.  The term support is being misused here since what we really in mind is to hope the team we bet on wins.  This might be a single instance where we want that team to win and another instance that we want that team to lose, but being a fan we always wanted that team to win except if we have a much important goal that wanting that favorite team to lose such as because we bet on another team.



This is a clear example of what I am talking about above.  The misuse of the "support" term, we just want them to win for our own advantage.

I don't know, actually when betting on a football team, I usually vacillate between being a fan of a club and a bettor. Yes, because after all, betting is still betting and as much as possible I will do it for a higher chance of winning, so, I personally am not the idealistic type to stick to my favorite club even if the chance is smaller, no. It's a different thing for me, between betting and being a club fan.

Isn't it obvious, OP? All sports bets made by fans can be called self-interested bets. A "fan" placing a sports bet will always favor the team they bet on. However, calling such people true fans would be somewhat misleading, as those who genuinely care about their favorite team's games support them regardless, for free, and even contribute and create content that will help other fans unite in their interests.