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Title: HODL is much more suitable for altcoins than BTC nowadays
Post by: JaanusRaim on November 27, 2025, 12:00:57 PM
I conclude that HODL strategy is much more suitable for altcoins than BTC nowadays - just because the altcoins (as a whole market - not every single altcoin in this market) are undervalued relative to their equilibrium long-term price. Equilibrium price of the asset is determined by its value (in the case of cryptocurrencies this means image, perceived usefulness, acceptance rate). Altcoins prices are generally lower than their values at the moment.
As Warren Buffett says — 'Price is what you pay. Value is what you get'.

Altcoins market is undervalued (and many single altcoins in this market are strongly undervalued). Bitcoin is clearly overvalued.


HODL is suitable for undervalued coins.


Title: Re: HODL is much more suitable for altcoins than BTC nowadays
Post by: Charles-Tim on November 27, 2025, 12:09:16 PM
Maybe you do not know what pump and dump or dump and dump actually means. You can check the price of many coins from years ago to now and see what I am talking about.

There are some coins that will increase in price and later fall back significant. Some coins will start to dump after it has been launch and it will continue to drop in price.

If you are referring to undervalued and overvalued assets, use good assets like bitcoin, gold and others instead of using shit coins as an example. Only few altcoins get to all-time high but most of them do not.


Title: Re: HODL is much more suitable for altcoins than BTC nowadays
Post by: VirDolorum on November 27, 2025, 12:27:43 PM
Agreed. These are most popular by santiment btw: https://btcusa.com/usdt-btc-nexo-usdc-trx-and-mon-dominate-social-media-discussions/


Title: Re: HODL is much more suitable for altcoins than BTC nowadays
Post by: JaanusRaim on November 27, 2025, 12:44:32 PM
Agreed. These are most popular by santiment btw: https://btcusa.com/usdt-btc-nexo-usdc-trx-and-mon-dominate-social-media-discussions/

Thanks for good link about (alt)coins image!


Title: Re: HODL is much more suitable for altcoins than BTC nowadays
Post by: gunhell16 on November 27, 2025, 12:54:27 PM
HOLD methods can be applied to both good and bad coins, in my understanding of the topic we're discussing here. Of course, if we choose the right coins to hold for a long time, we can certainly expect good earnings in the future.

But if we hold the wrong coins, we'll surely just waste the long period of time waiting, as holding onto those coins will only result in a poor return on investment in the end.
This is the basic logic behind using the HOLD strategy as investors and traders.


Title: Re: HODL is much more suitable for altcoins than BTC nowadays
Post by: JaanusRaim on November 27, 2025, 01:15:43 PM
Maybe you do not know what pump and dump or dump and dump actually means. You can check the price of many coins from years ago to now and see what I am talking about.

There are some coins that will increase in price and later fall back significant. Some coins will start to dump after it has been launch and it will continue to drop in price.

If you are referring to undervalued and overvalued assets, use good assets like bitcoin, gold and others instead of using shit coins as an example. Only few altcoins get to all-time high but most of them do not.

Agree. How big percentage of companies that were in the stock market 160 years ago still exist? I bet that this is not big.
Though there were many gems. It was not easy to select these gems and every investor make many costly mistakes but if you have figured out that stocks (in general, not especially any single one of them) have value and that the stock market has great future....

There were time in here, in former Soviet republic Estonia around 1995 were only the real estate in Tallinn (the capital city) was considered "worthy", all other real estate were perceived as worthless and it was worthless indeed (in the short run) - when you buy some agriculture land (for example 100 usd/ha - which is extremely cheap price of cause) then you could sit on that land almost a decade (until entering the EU in 2004) with absolutely no market.
Tallinn - Bitcoin. All other real estate  - altcoins.

It is interesting that every asset has some era when it has not only very cheap but it is not even perceived as an asset really, sometimes you can offer it even free and no-one is eager to take it.

Of cause, cryptocurrencies are not real estate nor stocks and history do not repeat itself. But there are always great things to learn from history.


Title: Re: HODL is much more suitable for altcoins than BTC nowadays
Post by: MAAManda on November 27, 2025, 02:42:08 PM
Disagree with that, despite the current price of Bitcoin (BTC) that some people think is high, I think Bitcoin (BTC) is still one of the best assets to HODL. This is because the price of Bitcoin (BTC) has been growing well year after year & its increasing adoption over time has also made its price better. Compared to altcoins, they have smaller capitalization & lower liquidity, which makes some of them possibly unstable if we hold them.


Title: Re: HODL is much more suitable for altcoins than BTC nowadays
Post by: Nahl on November 27, 2025, 03:38:48 PM
For long term bitcoin is still the best coin to hold but if we speaking about altcoin it is not recommended for long term hold unless you were stick to the altcoin with big marketcap but if we talking about huge profit for short term indeed bitcoin is not the best coin because currently the prices of bitcoin is quite high and the prices of movement for a year also very slow too probably only less than 50% then to gets high profit is quite difficult

Indeed i have heard the stories about some people who can able to found potential altcoin to hold and they got fantastic profit from that in the short term which probably that's why OP have made this thread but the reality is not so simple as it because with million of altcoin is very hard to found the potential altcoins under value who can give us huge profit in the short term even the investors who attempt to find it eventually got scammed because they pick wrong altcoin to hold


Title: Re: HODL is much more suitable for altcoins than BTC nowadays
Post by: Odogwu-Blockchain on November 27, 2025, 07:38:23 PM
The hodl strategy do not work on every altcoin, take note of that when considering the number of altcoin to accumulate to hold during this bad season for altcoin.

When considering altcoin to hold for longer period of time, please check on the first 50 altcoins on the popular market capitalisation platform like the coingecko and CMC.

I am saying this because I will not want others to fall victim of heavy losses in trying to hold altcoin.


Title: Re: HODL is much more suitable for altcoins than BTC nowadays
Post by: malekbaba on November 27, 2025, 07:56:32 PM
sometimes we miss clear opportunities to book profit . But usually we become greedy and it happens to me every now and then. You have to speculate and it is serious task. I have changed the strategy. I m holding some portion of my assets and booking profit by selling some portion, if price climbs 7 to 15%. some people hold crypto as precious asset and they are not traders and Do not really care if price goes down short time. And as it is said, fruits from patience is very sweet.
HODL works for under valued projects. Crypto is very unstable and price can drop significantly even if perceived value is strong.


Title: Re: HODL is much more suitable for altcoins than BTC nowadays
Post by: Ahli38 on November 27, 2025, 08:34:28 PM
I conclude that HODL strategy is much more suitable for altcoins than BTC nowadays - just because the altcoins (as a whole market - not every single altcoin in this market) are undervalued relative to their equilibrium long-term price. Equilibrium price of the asset is determined by its value (in the case of cryptocurrencies this means image, perceived usefulness, acceptance rate). Altcoins prices are generally lower than their values at the moment.
As Warren Buffett says — 'Price is what you pay. Value is what you get'.

Altcoins market is undervalued (and many single altcoins in this market are strongly undervalued). Bitcoin is clearly overvalued.

HODL is suitable for undervalued coins.

Many undervalued altcoins have failed. And even some altcoins disappeared from circulation or even lost their value completely. People have always said that Bitcoin is overvalued. But Bitcoin has always responded by reaching new all-time highs every about 4-5 years. And we can see how many altcoins have gone bankrupt. This year alone several altcoin projects have already withdrawn. So you cannot compare Bitcoin with any altcoins. Bitcoin will remain superior. I personally have lost a lot of money on several altcoins or even on undervalued altcoins. So I think you're wrong. And you will understand this if you experience many losses in altcoins.


Title: Re: HODL is much more suitable for altcoins than BTC nowadays
Post by: Ndabagi01 on November 27, 2025, 08:46:47 PM
Altcoins are not undervalued, it is clearly what they depict in the market that makes them be seen less of Bitcoin. Altcoins can’t beat the reach which is Bitcoin, which is the greatest and ultimatum of them all. Certain features have been observed in altcoins that makes them very vulnerable and unattractive for long term holders. When you hear of manipulation of the market, pump and dump strategy, they all fall under the category of altcoins. So how are they undervalued and Bitcoin overhyped? Everything is clear here, you just need to be very cautious when trading them and give more preference to Bitcoin when it comes to investing in them.


Title: Re: HODL is much more suitable for altcoins than BTC nowadays
Post by: taufik123 on November 27, 2025, 09:17:12 PM
Then the question is which Altcoin do you choose when you say the altcoin market is too low or undervalue?
Because many altcoins and more altcoins never return to their original price because they are not developed and are not in demand by investors.

Even the top altcoins have not been guaranteed that they are the best and are chosen based on Undervalue.

CMC's top altcoins are even still racing to keep rising, and this depends on the price of Bitcoin,
So instead of HOLD altcoins but HOLD bitcoin and take advantage of Bitcoin's instability to start buying altcoins
that have great potential to provide faster returns with fast trading, it's better than you wait a long time to make a profit, unless the tone is holding more Bitcoin.

Hold is not suitable for low-rated altcoins and does not have the upside potential that is ultimately abandoned.
Just pick the obvious ones and the top altcoins CMC can be a reference, but see how it develops whether it continues to gain support or not.

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Title: Re: HODL is much more suitable for altcoins than BTC nowadays
Post by: Odusko on November 27, 2025, 09:18:51 PM
I conclude that HODL strategy is much more suitable for altcoins than BTC nowadays - just because the altcoins (as a whole market - not every single altcoin in this market) are undervalued relative to their equilibrium long-term price. Equilibrium price of the asset is determined by its value (in the case of cryptocurrencies this means image, perceived usefulness, acceptance rate). Altcoins prices are generally lower than their values at the moment.
As Warren Buffett says — 'Price is what you pay. Value is what you get'.

Altcoins market is undervalued (and many single altcoins in this market are strongly undervalued). Bitcoin is clearly overvalued.


HODL is suitable for undervalued coins.
You must be kidding right now, you mean you prefer to hold altcoins compared to Bitcoin, I believe you must ve joking right now, Bitcoin have more stability and long term durability compare to altcoins, majority of the altcoins are just pumped and dumped, so that make them to be a bad choice for long term goals as against what you posted above, you must have to rethink.


Title: Re: HODL is much more suitable for altcoins than BTC nowadays
Post by: jossiel on November 27, 2025, 09:23:36 PM
It is suitable for all and in general. Don't make it look that it's not suitable for bitcoin and only for the altcoins, undervalued or not.

I can attest to this that it's proven and suitable for bitcoin and so, if your bias with the altcoins I understand that.

Because you'll never know for how long you're going to HODL your altcoins with this type of market that it seems going down.


Title: Re: HODL is much more suitable for altcoins than BTC nowadays
Post by: Stalker22 on November 27, 2025, 10:39:15 PM
Okay, so your idea of value in altcoins - "image, perceived usefulness, acceptance rate" - is just wrong and pure garbage.  Thats not real value.  Thats just speculation dressed up in fancy terms.  A lot of these altcoins look good at first, but they are based on nothing. Their "usefulness" is something a basic computer database could do, and people get excited about them for like three months, then forget about them completely.

At the same time, you call Bitcoin overvalued, the one asset with clear institutional adoption, regulatory clarity, and the undisputed status as digital gold.  Overvalued in comparison to what exactly?


Title: Re: HODL is much more suitable for altcoins than BTC nowadays
Post by: Cyber_warrior on November 27, 2025, 11:09:21 PM
I conclude that HODL strategy is much more suitable for altcoins than BTC nowadays - just because the altcoins (as a whole market - not every single altcoin in this market) are undervalued relative to their equilibrium long-term price. Equilibrium price of the asset is determined by its value (in the case of cryptocurrencies this means image, perceived usefulness, acceptance rate). Altcoins prices are generally lower than their values at the moment.
As Warren Buffett says — 'Price is what you pay. Value is what you get'.

Altcoins market is undervalued (and many single altcoins in this market are strongly undervalued). Bitcoin is clearly overvalued.


HODL is suitable for undervalued coins.
You might end up holding a undervalued coin which is going to wreck you. Do you even know the risk which is involved in altcoins investment? Maybe you haven’t lost any amount in alt coin investment before that’s why you still having confidence in them, and you still planning to invest in them. When you investing in altcoins, you should know you taking a high risk, and anything can happen. Most of the altcoins in market currently are not reliable, they are just created by people just to make money, if you end up investing in coins like that, at the end you will be losing your money.


Title: Re: HODL is much more suitable for altcoins than BTC nowadays
Post by: pooya87 on November 28, 2025, 03:21:56 AM
You have to be able to back your speculation with facts. For example how have altcoins done in the long run? That means their performance in longer than a couple of years. We can clearly see that almost all of them have only continued going down which clearly shows that their price even back then (like in 2017) was extremely overvalued that they needed to continue dumping to reach a more reasonable price.

On top of that the uselessness of almost all of altcoins, their unlimited supplies, their fundamental flaws, centralization,... ensures they keep dumping which makes them terrible long term investments aka HODL appropriate.


Title: Re: HODL is much more suitable for altcoins than BTC nowadays
Post by: JaanusRaim on November 28, 2025, 03:24:50 AM
Okay, so your idea of value in altcoins - "image, perceived usefulness, acceptance rate" - is just wrong and pure garbage.  Thats not real value.  Thats just speculation dressed up in fancy terms.  A lot of these altcoins look good at first, but they are based on nothing. Their "usefulness" is something a basic computer database could do, and people get excited about them for like three months, then forget about them completely.

At the same time, you call Bitcoin overvalued, the one asset with clear institutional adoption, regulatory clarity, and the undisputed status as digital gold.  Overvalued in comparison to what exactly?


I have to say that many of you make a mistake by extrapolating past into future - that has been very popular mistake all over the history. (With that I do not argue that I do not make costly mistakes. Only one is sure - my mistakes are really my mistakes (they are not barrowed :)))

In accordance with my opinion, Bitcoin price is clearly overvalued in comparison to its value - image, perceived usefulness, acceptance rate. Its equilibrium price in accordance with my calculations is about  5000-20000 USD now, certainly not above 50000 USD. Of cause it can raise if its value increases.

If you are not sure, make your own calculations. Helping questions for that can be: What is BTC acceptance rate now (can it be for example 5% or 20%?)? What could be BTC price with 100% acceptance rate (could it be for example 10 million USD or 100 million USD in conditions of USD present purchasing power)?


Title: Re: HODL is much more suitable for altcoins than BTC nowadays
Post by: JaanusRaim on November 28, 2025, 03:49:57 AM
You have to be able to back your speculation with facts. For example how have altcoins done in the long run? That means their performance in longer than a couple of years. We can clearly see that almost all of them have only continued going down which clearly shows that their price even back then (like in 2017) was extremely overvalued that they needed to continue dumping to reach a more reasonable price.

On top of that the uselessness of almost all of altcoins, their unlimited supplies, their fundamental flaws, centralization,... ensures they keep dumping which makes them terrible long term investments aka HODL appropriate.

The facts about historical price performance, the technical analysis do not help to calculate the value of a cryptocurrency.
We need the fundamental analysis.
Unfortunately the cryptocurrencies market is so young that we have no tradition of fundamental analysis of cryptocurrencies yet. Many say that fundamental analysis of cryptos is not possible. In fact, it is not only possible but even easier than analysing  stocks because every business is by very nature secret. The cryptocurrencies very nature - in contrary - is some kind of image certificates and you can not build your image secretly. In these respect it is somewhat similar to betting on political candidates (betting on election outcomes) - it is relatively easy to forecast the number of votes of a popular candidate in contrast to the future performance of a company.


Title: Re: HODL is much more suitable for altcoins than BTC nowadays
Post by: TastyChillySauce00 on November 28, 2025, 04:17:33 AM
You are not wrong with your logic, buying undervalued asset is good. Here's the thing though, altcoins appear almost everyday, there's always a listing announcement for a new altcoin from exchanges. Especially the one that list everything e.g mexc.
At some point you gonna realize that there's limited money going in to the altcoin market and it can't sustain to keep high FDV for every altcoin. There's no guarantee that an altcoin gonna recover back to its past glory which is ATH. Most of them just gonna go down and vanish just like how EOS went from top contender to almost nobody know nowadays.

Hold bitcoin is better because it's cyclic and you can almost be sure that in 4 years you gonna take profit, with altcoin? you kinda expect it vansih and FDV goes to zero the next cycle. Holding altcoin is just dumb in my opinion except ETH, SOL and maybe project with real revenue like HYPE.