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Title: "Total time logged in"
Post by: BlackHatCoiner on December 01, 2025, 06:54:47 PM
How reliable is that metric? I remember it quickly climbed from 0 to 100 days, but I'm stuck at 300-ish for a very long time, I feel. I want to count the time that I spend in here every day, and I don't want to involve third party software.

Does anyone know how it even works? If I leave my computer running with Bitcointalk tab open, that obviously doesn't count. Does it count it based on session? Session works for a very long time, though. Or does it add a constant x seconds every time I load a page?


Title: Re: "Total time logged in"
Post by: Mia Chloe on December 01, 2025, 06:59:48 PM
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Well it depends on how long you spend actively surfing. Times when you just login post and then go offline it doesn't really count much but it counts way more if you are actively reading around the forum surfing. Well opening a tab down won't cut it except you are refreshing it every couple of minutes.

There's no need to open tabs down if you ask me though I'd like to personally see mine count as quality time spent on surfing the forum.


Title: Re: "Total time logged in"
Post by: Hazink on December 01, 2025, 07:05:58 PM
 How does total time logged in count?  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5474585.0)

From all I know, how the timing is done is not really certain. It could be that it counts more when you are actively sending a request to the webpage, either by posting, or opening tabs whatever that the user does, which keeps him active online and is showing some signs of activities that could count into the timing. 


Title: Re: "Total time logged in"
Post by: EarnOnVictor on December 01, 2025, 07:18:23 PM
Does anyone know how it even works? If I leave my computer running with Bitcointalk tab open, that obviously doesn't count. Does it count it based on session? Session works for a very long time, though. Or does it add a constant x seconds every time I load a page?
You are so close to the answer, bro. I've taken my time to study this in the past based on the possible ways it counts, and the only logical explanation lies with the session.

It continues to count you in so long as you have an active session, which varies in my observation. And I think different sections have different active session duration.This may sound strange, but I've noticed it many times. The session of a thing is also like a token, which when it lapses, especially when you delayed in sending a post, the system will time you out and inform you. This means that even if you open a page and being active on the page (typing etc), the session could still timeout, and your time count stops.

So, the timer is all about your active session.


Title: Re: "Total time logged in"
Post by: Zaguru12 on December 01, 2025, 07:19:03 PM
Well it depends on how long you spend actively surfing. Times when you just login post and then go offline it doesn't really count much but it counts way more if you are actively reading around the forum surfing. Well opening a tab down won't cut it except you are refreshing it every couple of minutes.

There's no need to open tabs down if you ask me though I'd like to personally see mine count as quality time spent on surfing the forum.

This is one subject or feature that there has never been any direct answer to how it really works, most of the time it is usually said to be base on the web page usage like doing most of the activities on this forum like searching loading page like moving from thread to thread, board to board and even meriting, it’s simply just the web page loading. But to be sincere even on this there have been many metrics that shows that it’s still flawed and that this might not be it.

I could remember reading threads about this discussion in the past where even people have spent time here more than even the time there accounts where created, which simply means it’s flawed, check this thread out ; The forum stats are wrong! @theymos check it out,please (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5179823.0)

Also even Theymos doesn’t seems to trust the metrics used for it when it was suggested to be used when activity was first introduced. He thinks it can be manipulated which definitely nullifies all the claims of how we think it’s calculated,

Time spent logged in will also be useful to include as a component.
That can be manipulated very easily, so it's useless for something like this.


Title: Re: "Total time logged in"
Post by: irfan_pak10 on December 01, 2025, 07:26:01 PM
How does total time logged in count?  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5474585.0)

From all I know, how the timing is done is not really certain. It could be that it counts more when you are actively sending a request to the webpage, either by posting, or opening tabs whatever that the user does, which keeps him active online and is showing some signs of activities that could count into the timing. 

How is this possible then, these users have more logged in time then the forum age

https://i.ibb.co/6cPFTs0d/Screenshot-2025-12-02-at-12-23-23-AM.png (https://ibb.co/RG0csHT5)


Title: Re: "Total time logged in"
Post by: Btcdeybodi on December 01, 2025, 08:00:35 PM
If I leave my computer running with Bitcointalk tab open, that obviously doesn't count. Does it count it based on session? Session works for a very long time, though. Or does it add a constant x seconds every time I load a page?
If you open a tab while you are logged in on bitcointalk it doesn't count if the page remains idle, it's only upon refreshing the page or opening other pages that your logged in time will count. The minutes or seconds that counts depends on how long it takes you to keep the page alive again, though it has a limited time you need to refresh the page before it can count but the limited time is what i don't know how long :-\


Title: Re: "Total time logged in"
Post by: Zoomic on December 01, 2025, 09:03:09 PM

Does anyone know how it even works? If I leave my computer running with Bitcointalk tab open, that obviously doesn't count. Does it count it based on session? Session works for a very long time, though. Or does it add a constant x seconds every time I load a page?
I have been here since 2021 and I have been active and in campaigns, but I am still not upto 40 hrs. So, I go tired of checking it.
If you leave your Bitcointalk tab open, I am not sure it's gonna count because BTT doesn't update live. So, you need to surf pages, makes posts etc before it will count.


Title: Re: "Total time logged in"
Post by: Xal0lex on December 01, 2025, 09:42:37 PM
It's very simple: to update the counter, you just need to refresh any page of the forum once every 10 minutes (approximately).


Title: Re: "Total time logged in"
Post by: logfiles on December 01, 2025, 09:59:27 PM
How is this possible then, these users have more logged in time then the forum age

https://i.ibb.co/6cPFTs0d/Screenshot-2025-12-02-at-12-23-23-AM.png (https://ibb.co/RG0csHT5)
My guess is that the person or people behind those accounts has/have all of them logged in using different sessions, let's say each account has like 10 active sessions and in those 10 different session, the account keeps refreshing 24/7 or something like that, more like a bot kind of situation.


Title: Re: "Total time logged in"
Post by: DYING_S0UL on December 01, 2025, 10:45:06 PM
How is this possible then, these users have more logged in time then the forum age

https://i.ibb.co/6cPFTs0d/Screenshot-2025-12-02-at-12-23-23-AM.png (https://ibb.co/RG0csHT5)
My guess is that the person or people behind those accounts has/have all of them logged in using different sessions, let's say each account has like 10 active sessions and in those 10 different session, the account keeps refreshing 24/7 or something like that, more like a bot kind of situation.

I wonder who would even do that? Any even why? I doesn't see any benefits or anything! Btw, is it possible some of these accounts are actually bots? Like the one chartbuddy?

My personal record is 56 ish active days, and it's been around 2-3 years since I started posting here! Can this be considered a good number? TBH, whenever I have some free time, I visit the time, but despite that I couldn't reach 100 days yet!

Edit: I just took a look at these users! Well this is quite weird! All of them were created between the same period, all accounts are archived, all have absolute zero posts and zero activity and zero merits! This doesn't make any sense! ???


Title: Re: "Total time logged in"
Post by: OgNasty on December 01, 2025, 10:56:04 PM
How is this possible then, these users have more logged in time then the forum age

https://i.ibb.co/6cPFTs0d/Screenshot-2025-12-02-at-12-23-23-AM.png (https://ibb.co/RG0csHT5)
My guess is that the person or people behind those accounts has/have all of them logged in using different sessions, let's say each account has like 10 active sessions and in those 10 different session, the account keeps refreshing 24/7 or something like that, more like a bot kind of situation.

I wonder who would even do that? Any even why? I doesn't see any benefits or anything! Btw, is it possible some of these accounts are actually bots? Like the one chartbuddy?

My personal record is 56 ish active days, and it's been around 2-3 years since I started posting here! Can this be considered a good number? TBH, whenever I have some free time, I visit the time, but despite that I couldn't reach 100 days yet!

Edit: I just took a look at these users! Well this is quite weird! All of them were created between the same period, all accounts are archived, all have absolute zero posts and zero activity and zero merits! This doesn't make any sense! ???

I think the simple answer is that it is a bug.  Seems obvious, no?  You can't have spent more time on the forum than the forum has existed, so either there is some serious time traveling shenanigans at play here, or something isn't adding up properly.

I shamefully have nearly a year of logged in time here now.  I think while my posting habits have increased considerably over the recent years, a majority of that logged in time came from earlier in my days when I was much more busy with real world activity (when that sort of thing actually took place here). 


Title: Re: "Total time logged in"
Post by: logfiles on December 01, 2025, 10:56:47 PM
I wonder who would even do that? Any even why? I doesn't see any benefits or anything!
There is no benefit for sure but if you look at those top accounts, most of them were created on the same day, and they were also last active around the same time meaning, it was more of a one-man operation.
The motive is not clear, but one could say that they were trying to attack the forum? Like overload it with requests?

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Btw, is it possible some of these accounts are actually bots? Like the one chartbuddy?
Yeah, chartbuddy does automated posting. There are also a few more bots created by members to scrape data for projects like Loyce.club, Ninjastic.space etc


Title: Re: "Total time logged in"
Post by: rat03gopoh on December 01, 2025, 11:57:42 PM
I think the simple answer is that it is a bug.  Seems obvious, no?  You can't have spent more time on the forum than the forum has existed, so either there is some serious time traveling shenanigans at play here, or something isn't adding up properly.

I shamefully have nearly a year of logged in time here now.  I think while my posting habits have increased considerably over the recent years, a majority of that logged in time came from earlier in my days when I was much more busy with real world activity (when that sort of thing actually took place here). 
I think they're using browsers on different devices so they can add multiple login sessions simultaneously. I remember that logging in elsewhere didn't end the login session on the previous device.


Title: Re: "Total time logged in"
Post by: stwenhao on December 02, 2025, 07:15:35 AM
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How reliable is that metric?
Let's see:
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Total time logged in: 1 days, 11 hours and 8 minutes.
Is it reliable?

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Does anyone know how it even works?
It is based on your browser's activity: it depends, how often you request pages, and for how long you are logged in (60 minutes by default). You can spend days reading the forum as logged out, and only log in, when you want to post something. Also, you can write the whole content in any text editor, and just copy-paste it. Which means, that you can spend an hour on a forum, reading some posts, and writing some answers, but your "online time" can be just a few seconds or minutes, if you want to. And then, you can be active for years, and be online only for a few days at most.

Also, that's one of the reasons, why mailing lists didn't migrate to forums: because to post something, you have to be logged in. And some people don't like that: sending an e-mail does not require logging in, if you set it up in that way. Then, it is more similar to sending a transaction, where anyone can do that, without logging in anywhere.


Title: Re: "Total time logged in"
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on December 02, 2025, 11:29:59 AM
I’m at over 240 days which is actually quite ridiculous, I really need to touch some grass at times :D

I have been registered since 2014 though so not as bad as the OP who has been registered since 2020 and clocked up more forum hrs than me in under half the time ;D


Title: Re: "Total time logged in"
Post by: CryptSafe on December 02, 2025, 12:10:52 PM
I’m at over 240 days which is actually quite ridiculous, I really need to touch some grass at times :D

I have been registered since 2014 though so not as bad as the OP who has been registered since 2020 and clocked up more forum hrs than me in under half the time ;D

If OP has more time logged in than you, who has been here years before OP came on board, then it means that OP has been much active, though, but I was thinking that it is not really about being active that counts, but rather being logged in even without being active could really count because the systems reads you online and so therefore it is assume you are active till you log out or if there is any disconnect in internet activities.


Title: Re: "Total time logged in"
Post by: vapourminer on December 02, 2025, 01:43:58 PM
I’m at over 240 days which is actually quite ridiculous, I really need to touch some grass at times :D

I have been registered since 2014 though so not as bad as the OP who has been registered since 2020 and clocked up more forum hrs than me in under half the time ;D

mine:

Code:
Total time logged in: 333 days, 20 hours and 36 minutes.

2011 for reference

time very very well spent  ;D


Title: Re: "Total time logged in"
Post by: Lucius on December 02, 2025, 02:14:45 PM
I’m at over 240 days which is actually quite ridiculous, I really need to touch some grass at times :D
I have been registered since 2014 though so not as bad as the OP who has been registered since 2020 and clocked up more forum hrs than me in under half the time ;D


Not bad for 2014, but there are some who came later and have, let's say, much bigger numbers ;) More than a year on BTT, which isn't that bad for an account registered in 2015.

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Total time logged in: 384 days, xx hours and xx minutes.


Title: Re: "Total time logged in"
Post by: xmrhopium on December 02, 2025, 03:54:14 PM
I’m at over 240 days which is actually quite ridiculous, I really need to touch some grass at times :D

I have been registered since 2014 though so not as bad as the OP who has been registered since 2020 and clocked up more forum hrs than me in under half the time ;D

mine:

Code:
Total time logged in: 333 days, 20 hours and 36 minutes.

2011 for reference

time very very well spent  ;D

not bad, not bad at all... you still end up spending about 1½ hours each day on the forum (excluding leap‑days) O0

a bit clue ser https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5199525.msg65895250#msg65895250


Title: Re: "Total time logged in"
Post by: Asiska02 on December 02, 2025, 09:21:49 PM
This should depend on how the forum metrics works on total time logged into the account. For every time a response is been sent to the page, it may cap your time active for only 5 minutes (assumption) and when that 5 minutes gets elapsed and no action was further taken on the site, then that should be the time added to your total time logged into your account. For as long as your logged in time keeps receiving response in less than 5 minutes in the forum, then your total time logged in is increased by 5 minutes from the minute of the last action taken. This is how i think it works.

So even if you stay logged in for 5 hours and your tab is open, if you only send response after every 30 minutes and don’t take another action within that time, your total time logged into the forum for the 5 hours will only be 50 minutes and not 5 hours.


Title: Re: "Total time logged in"
Post by: Pablo-wood on December 04, 2025, 02:33:18 AM
This should depend on how the forum metrics works on total time logged into the account. For every time a response is been sent to the page, it may cap your time active for only 5 minutes (assumption) and when that 5 minutes gets elapsed and no action was further taken on the site, then that should be the time added to your total time logged into your account. For as long as your logged in time keeps receiving response in less than 5 minutes in the forum, then your total time logged in is increased by 5 minutes from the minute of the last action taken. This is how i think it works.
More like each time a get, post or update request is sent on the page the total time gets added to our active time but if the page is open and it's completely idle with no action taken the site stays dormant with our total logged in time not being updated. Like saying an action just have to take place to keep our logged in time constantly updating else it's assumed we are offline.


Title: Re: "Total time logged in"
Post by: krishnaverma on December 04, 2025, 09:22:21 AM
My stats
Total time logged in: 13 days, 9 hours and 55 minutes.

That is a lot I guess. I need to find a job now I guess.


Title: Re: "Total time logged in"
Post by: arhipova on December 04, 2025, 09:31:15 AM
There's no need to open tabs down if you ask me though I'd like to personally see mine count as quality time spent on surfing the forum.

Exactly.

On a side note , “If Bitcointalk counted idle tabs, I’d be Legendary twice by now.”