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Title: I think this forum is toxic for newbies.
Post by: LonelyEcho on December 12, 2025, 04:53:51 PM
I think this forum is toxic for newbies. Because I noticed that most of the time those who are here with big titles like Legendary, Hero members get more Merit. I have proof of that. I just think that maybe it is quite difficult for us newbies. Can you tell me what I can do to get more Merit.

And the thread I created has been deleted.


Title: Re: I think this forum is toxic for newbies.
Post by: NotATether on December 12, 2025, 04:58:48 PM
Make helpful topics, and people will merit you.

It's that simple.


Title: Re: I think this forum is toxic for newbies.
Post by: Hazink on December 12, 2025, 05:02:25 PM
Aside from some people being here earlier before the merit system was introduced, every member started as a newbie and earned themselves up to whatever rank you are seeing them now.

You don't expect to create a topic like this one and expect someone who creates a helpful topic to receive the same equal merit, same way you have proof of legendary and hero members earning more merit that's how if you look deeper you can find lower ranks members who also earned lot of merit.


Title: Re: I think this forum is toxic for newbies.
Post by: Shineup on December 12, 2025, 05:06:14 PM
I think this forum is toxic for newbies. Because I noticed that most of the time those who are here with big titles like Legendary, Hero members get more Merit. I have proof of that. I just think that maybe it is quite difficult for us newbies. Can you tell me what I can do to get more Merit.

And the thread I created has been deleted.
It will make more sense if you can be more careful with your choice of words, I don't in any way perceive the forum to be toxic to the newbies, there is lot of flexibilities in this community generally irrespective of ranks, you are only being carried away to grow up overnight, Merits are only given out to deserving post anyone deemed it worth meritting, this is my observations and am willing to grow gradually through learning and making more meaningful contribution, don't be in a hurry rather we should keep doing the right thing of course i believe merit will come at it own time.


Title: Re: I think this forum is toxic for newbies.
Post by: Rikafip on December 12, 2025, 05:06:39 PM
I think this forum is toxic for newbies. Because I noticed that most of the time those who are here with big titles like Legendary, Hero members get more Merit.
They get more merit because their post quality on average is better than of a newbie.


I have proof of that.
Give me an example of quality newbie account that has issues getting merit.


I just think that maybe it is quite difficult for us newbies.
Nope, its never been easier to rank up than it is now. As a matter of fact, its so easy that even shitposters have no big issues reaching higher ranks.


Can you tell me what I can do to get more Merit.
Write better posts.


Title: Re: I think this forum is toxic for newbies.
Post by: TryNinja on December 12, 2025, 05:07:59 PM
And I think newbies don't like reading the rules. :P

Your topic got deleted because it was just a 100% copy of your other topic posted in the same board, 2 months before.

First topic: https://bitlist.co/topic/5561901
Second topic (deleted): https://bitlist.co/topic/5567803

Why would you create two identical topics?


Title: Re: I think this forum is toxic for newbies.
Post by: PX-Z on December 12, 2025, 05:08:25 PM
I think this forum is toxic for newbies. Because I noticed that most of the time those who are here with big titles like Legendary, Hero members get more Merit.
They've earned it. If you believe your posts, or any newbie posts are worthy of merit, you can request merit source to review your post history to award merits. Either way, users typically give merits to those who consistently or just those who share valuable or post-worthy content, just like some higher ranked members do just like you observed.


Title: Re: I think this forum is toxic for newbies.
Post by: Su-asa on December 12, 2025, 05:10:33 PM
I think this forum is toxic for newbies. Because I noticed that most of the time those who are here with big titles like Legendary, Hero members get more Merit. I have proof of that. I just think that maybe it is quite difficult for us newbies. Can you tell me what I can do to get more Merit.

And the thread I created has been deleted.
Useful topics deserves to be awarded with merits. If your thread was deleted it's probably because it wasn't useful. The other threads which you have created that wasn't deleted are kinda good that's why the moderators didn't delete them. To be honest here, you are doing well, keep it up but you also need to improve your posting pattern, that the only way you will get more merits. You don't even need to create a thread before you earn merits, sometimes you get merits from your comments.


Title: Re: I think this forum is toxic for newbies.
Post by: Mia Chloe on December 12, 2025, 05:13:38 PM
I think this forum is toxic for newbies. Because I noticed that most of the time those who are here with big titles like Legendary, Hero members get more Merit. I have proof of that. I just think that maybe it is quite difficult for us newbies. Can you tell me what I can do to get more Merit.
And the thread I created has been deleted.
Here you go.. Sent you one merit for asking questions that should ideally prompt your improvement. I can't say a hundred percent that newbies aren't kinda sidelined but what I can say is we have very few newbies who want to contribute positively to the forum. If you genuinely want to stick around positively I'd advise you to read as much as you can.

There are loads of information scattered around you just have to get accustomed with the forum including posting and the rules here.


Title: Re: I think this forum is toxic for newbies.
Post by: Obim34 on December 12, 2025, 05:14:04 PM
I think this forum is toxic for newbies. Because I noticed that most of the time those who are here with big titles like Legendary, Hero members get more Merit. I have proof of that. I just think that maybe it is quite difficult for us newbies. Can you tell me what I can do to get more Merit.

And the thread I created has been deleted.
It's the same for every rank.

If you don't earn, you can't rank up, the majority of Hero ranks and downward all achieved their rank after the merit system was implemented.

I see you already made junior rank, you need a few more activity count, and 5 more merits to member rank, a step at a time.


Title: Re: I think this forum is toxic for newbies.
Post by: AuchanX on December 12, 2025, 05:14:55 PM
I think this forum is toxic for newbies. Because I noticed that most of the time those who are here with big titles like Legendary, Hero members get more Merit.
First of all, you need to change your mindset. This forum encourages newbies to learn and helps seniors to learn more. And helps them share knowledge with each other. You are probably showing more interest in gaining merit. Which will not be good for you. You may not need to explain, today's legends were once newbies. They worked hard, and their contribution to this forum is not less. Here no one is belittled based on rank. Rather, many come forward to encourage those who show interest in learning.
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I have proof of that. I just think that maybe it is quite difficult for us newbies. Can you tell me what I can do to get more Merit.

And the thread I created has been deleted.
You have no proof. You are spreading confusion here.
You should see this thread, (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185736.msg52491458#msg52491458)who has gained the most merit despite being new. The point is not that newbies cannot gain merit, the point is that if you do not gain proper knowledge, and keep writing nonsense, then your reputation will get worse. Write less and read more in the forum. Then you will know how newbies are gaining merit. The most important thing is that no one will look down on you based on your rank. Just stop writing unnecessarily. And be useful to everyone.


Title: Re: I think this forum is toxic for newbies.
Post by: Abuobyda218 on December 12, 2025, 05:15:46 PM
Ranking up is possible! 2900 Merits earned in less than 12 months!My 11 Hints! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098333.msg49267880#msg49267880)
It is clearly mentioned in the link above how to earn merit over time.
Nothing is impossible, especially nothing can be achieved overnight. For this, patience and proper use of time are required. Keep spending time on the forum with patience, one day we will be able to achieve the Hero Legendary rank.


Title: Re: I think this forum is toxic for newbies.
Post by: Satofan44 on December 12, 2025, 05:23:38 PM
Most newbies are fake (alts of existing users or farmers) and ill-intended (shitposting for money), so what do you expect? There are several examples of people earning merit easily, some by being nice and writing useful posts -- others by being mean and writing useful posts. Therefore the conclusion is clear, earning merit is possible if your contributions are good. It has nothing to do with who you are, even if you may be ignored by some merit senders if you are rude.

If you want to cheat the system just farm merit with random contests, many users do it that way. Look through local boards for contests, that is where most of the merit farming is happening.


Title: Re: I think this forum is toxic for newbies.
Post by: EarnOnVictor on December 12, 2025, 05:28:16 PM
I think this forum is toxic for newbies. Because I noticed that most of the time those who are here with big titles like Legendary, Hero members get more Merit.
Toxic because of merits? That's a poor choice of word. The forum is not toxic to newbies, it's just that newbies would need to do more to attract merits. While outstanding contributions can help you faster.

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I just think that maybe it is quite difficult for us newbies. Can you tell me what I can do to get more Merit.
There's no magic here, focus on quality posting, and you will attract merits and rank up over time.


Title: Re: I think this forum is toxic for newbies.
Post by: LonelyEcho on December 12, 2025, 05:36:14 PM
And I think newbies don't like reading the rules. :P

Your topic got deleted because it was just a 100% copy of your other topic posted in the same board, 2 months before.

First topic: https://bitlist.co/topic/5561901
Second topic (deleted): https://bitlist.co/topic/5567803

Why would you create two identical topics?
I just wanted to see if I would get re-qualified if I created the same thread over and over again, for which I already qualified. I was just trying to understand. Yes, this is wrong for me.

Here you go.. Sent you one merit for asking questions that should ideally prompt your improvement. I can't say a hundred percent that newbies aren't kinda sidelined but what I can say is we have very few newbies who want to contribute positively to the forum. If you genuinely want to stick around positively I'd advise you to read as much as you can.

There are loads of information scattered around you just have to get accustomed with the forum including posting and the rules here.
I read, but I still can't learn.


I think this forum is toxic for newbies. Because I noticed that most of the time those who are here with big titles like Legendary, Hero members get more Merit.
First of all, you need to change your mindset. This forum encourages newbies to learn and helps seniors to learn more. And helps them share knowledge with each other. You are probably showing more interest in gaining merit. Which will not be good for you. You may not need to explain, today's legends were once newbies. They worked hard, and their contribution to this forum is not less. Here no one is belittled based on rank. Rather, many come forward to encourage those who show interest in learning.
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I have proof of that. I just think that maybe it is quite difficult for us newbies. Can you tell me what I can do to get more Merit.

And the thread I created has been deleted.
You have no proof. You are spreading confusion here.
You should see this thread, (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185736.msg52491458#msg52491458)who has gained the most merit despite being new. The point is not that newbies cannot gain merit, the point is that if you do not gain proper knowledge, and keep writing nonsense, then your reputation will get worse. Write less and read more in the forum. Then you will know how newbies are gaining merit. The most important thing is that no one will look down on you based on your rank. Just stop writing unnecessarily. And be useful to everyone.
I'm really sorry I didn't see this before.


Title: Re: I think this forum is toxic for newbies.
Post by: Churchillvv on December 12, 2025, 05:40:39 PM
It’s not basically toxic but it’s very difficult for newbies to find or do something pleasing in the forum that will attract a good merit because it’s usually seem like there is nothing you would say or do that is new in the forum, the hero members and legendary members probably have seen such happen before.

You can improve yourself as time goes by and find something that you think will amaze people who may have seen a lot already.


Title: Re: I think this forum is toxic for newbies.
Post by: Mrbluntzy on December 12, 2025, 05:56:58 PM
At first, you are going to think like that but as you continue to learn, read the forum rule, align with the rules, understand what the forum is all about and follow along, with quality and educative post, you will receive merits. It wl also be a credit for you when you ientify some problems on the community and perhaps suggest good ideas, you will receive merits also for that. The forum is not toxic to any newbie, don't be in a rush for merit, if you make quality post you will definitely receive merit.

If you don't spam, shit post, plagiarize or post only AI craps, you will receive merit, but falling victim to what I have listed out will only have you being put on ignore by members that might have given merit to your post, that will limit you from getting merit even on merit worthy post.


Title: Re: I think this forum is toxic for newbies.
Post by: nutildah on December 12, 2025, 06:47:29 PM
You're not a newbie. Just stop lying about everything in an attempt to get sympathy and merits. We've seen it all before and you're not fooling anyone.

An interesting fact is that a newbie guy joined the forum, started posting on the Nigeria local board on the first day, and discovered Buy the DIP, and HODL (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5132720.msg65870322#msg65870322) (heaven for account farmers) thread on the same day, and their 2nd post was on that thread. Their fifth post (http://=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg65887507#msg65887507) on this forum is in the Wall Observer thread. Their 11th post on fillippone's thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5412657.msg65895359#msg65895359) to be merit assessed, and now their screenshot clearly shows they are from Bangladesh. These things are not adding up. OP tried well pretend to be a newbie. But terribly failed.

If these kind of people put half as much time into learning bitcoin as they did learning how to suck up to and manipulate others, they might have actually increased in rank to Hero or Legendary by now. But they choose to be stuck in this vicious cycle of grinding on new accounts, getting exposed as an account farmer, and then starting all over again. Its a very Sisyphean exercise in futility.


Title: Re: I think this forum is toxic for newbies.
Post by: BIT-BENDER on December 12, 2025, 07:35:49 PM
I think this forum is toxic for newbies. Because I noticed that most of the time those who are here with big titles like Legendary, Hero members get more Merit. I have proof of that. I just think that maybe it is quite difficult for us newbies. Can you tell me what I can do to get more Merit.

And the thread I created has been deleted.
Aside from your hunger for merit which the solution to it is making constructive post and adding value to the forum, is there any other way any high ranking member have been toxic to you? Can you give in small detail an example of toxicity you have experienced in the hands of high ranking members since you can into the forum.
Most newbies think the forum is toxic because of merit, some will admit it but some won't. When a newbie doesn't make anything constructive but wants merit the believe that the forum is toxic.


Title: Re: I think this forum is toxic for newbies.
Post by: Ambatman on December 12, 2025, 07:54:07 PM
I believe the essence of the forum is for discussion not necessarily sharing of merit
When you said toxic, I was expecting something new and interesting.
Is it harder for newbies? Yes.
And account farmers doesn't really help the case of newbies. Seen people that were generous to newbies got taken advantage of
And Merit most time is tied to recognition. And recognition is a ripple effect of quality posts.


Title: Re: I think this forum is toxic for newbies.
Post by: macson on December 12, 2025, 08:27:49 PM
Do you think everyone here starts as a legendary or hero member? Everyone here starts as a newbie, just like you and the others. But the reason each person has a different growth rate is because the quality of each account varies. Some contribute more by creating helpful topics, while others post more casually. Those who contribute more deserve more merit because they are quality members.

So, if you want to be like that, make your account more qualified by posting quality posts or threads that are truly helpful. Don't use the excuse that those with titles like Legendary or Hero members can earn more merit; that only proves your incompetence.


Title: Re: I think this forum is toxic for newbies.
Post by: GeorgeJohn on December 12, 2025, 08:49:31 PM
The problem of newbies is that they always interested to earn merit but not interested to make educative posts

Sometimes newbies don't preview their article before posting and that has been the basic factor that denys so many of merit from good merit source

Some of the newbies doesn't read to understand before responding to a thread, and some don't make research to know if the topic they wants to discuss has already been discussed...they only post anything they few and that's why nobody is meriting them

Also improving a writing skill can be an easy tools to earn merit..and also following the rules and regulations and methods of how other people that earn merit is writing can be a tools to earn merit wisely.


Title: Re: I think this forum is toxic for newbies.
Post by: KingsDen on December 12, 2025, 09:01:16 PM
I think this forum is toxic for newbies. Because I noticed that most of the time those who are here with big titles like Legendary, Hero members get more Merit. I have proof of that. I just think that maybe it is quite difficult for us newbies. Can you tell me what I can do to get more Merit.

And the thread I created has been deleted.
It has never been easy for newbies in any forum or organisation. As a newbie you have the duty to understand the rules and regulations of the place you are and also learn the how to grow. It's not new, almost every newbie eager to grow starts with blaming the system. But when they grow in the system they'll understand that nothing is really wrong with the system.

Just do your things and learn to follow the system and not blame it. This system has produced so many legendaries from scratch.


Title: Re: I think this forum is toxic for newbies.
Post by: Apocollapse on December 12, 2025, 09:41:39 PM
I'm surprised to see an user who make 48 posts and earn 6 merits complain if getting merit is hard? how about many newbies who create 200 posts and only earn 1 merit? how many merits you supposed to earn after making 48 posts?

In my experience and my observation, it's harder to earn merit when your rank are getting higher, because they expect you to have higher knowledge or contribution.

So, if you can earn merit for making specific post when you were newbie, it might not work when you're a Hero Member.


Title: Re: I think this forum is toxic for newbies.
Post by: TypoTonic on December 12, 2025, 10:35:52 PM
I think this forum is toxic for newbies. Because I noticed that most of the time those who are here with big titles like Legendary, Hero members get more Merit. I have proof of that.
Here’s what the admin says, his words not mine. ;D

First, most people complaining about merit are constantly posting garbage, and should not rank-up.


I just think that maybe it is quite difficult for us newbies. Can you tell me what I can do to get more Merit.
For actual newbies, ;) here's what they should do:

In trying to write a quality post worthy of merit, you should offer new ideas, personal experiences, or perspectives that other forum users will actually find new and interesting.


Title: Re: I think this forum is toxic for newbies.
Post by: Hispo on December 12, 2025, 10:45:04 PM
I think this forum is toxic for newbies. Because I noticed that most of the time those who are here with big titles like Legendary, Hero members get more Merit. I have proof of that. I just think that maybe it is quite difficult for us newbies. Can you tell me what I can do to get more Merit.

And the thread I created has been deleted.

What you are saying is not a secret, it is a phenomenon which is pretty much true and obvious and people here have learned how to live with it.
Heros and legendaries are more likely to get merit than newbies because other heros and legendaries do not want to feed accounts which are made to fulfill ill-intentions, like farming in order to sell accounts later, or feed alternative accounts for people who already have several accounts, etc.

The higher the rank in this forum, it becomes easier for one to accumulate merits. That is the way it is and it does not mean this place is toxic at all, it is just a collective way people have adopted here to keep this community from becoming a spam-fest. If you give useful information, you will eventually reach legendary rank.


Title: Re: I think this forum is toxic for newbies.
Post by: Cookdata on December 12, 2025, 11:10:19 PM
I think this forum is toxic for newbies. Because I noticed that most of the time those who are here with big titles like Legendary, Hero members get more Merit. I have proof of that. I just think that maybe it is quite difficult for us newbies. Can you tell me what I can do to get more Merit.

And the thread I created has been deleted.

You are not seeing the forum as being toxic, that's not the right word to use from want you have expressed. You feel exhausted and don't know what to do.

You are barely a new account, registered less than 2 months and you are already complaining, I checked your post history and you have received merit in some good post you have made, don't expect every post you make is equal to a merit, this is not some like thing and even it's like that way, not everyone will see your post interesting.

I saw some of your post in fillippone thread, you have to wait till your turn before your posts can be review but make sure you stop posting on Wall observer.


Title: Re: I think this forum is toxic for newbies.
Post by: Odusko on December 12, 2025, 11:48:18 PM
I think this forum is toxic for newbies. Because I noticed that most of the time those who are here with big titles like Legendary, Hero members get more Merit. I have proof of that. I just think that maybe it is quite difficult for us newbies. Can you tell me what I can do to get more Merit.

And the thread I created has been deleted.
Date registered October 2025 and you have earned 6 merit's within that period of your being active in the forum, I must say that you are among the privilege members regardless of the rank, what you posted that earn you merits some Hero members will post more helpful topic and yet not get merited, a I don't mean to counter your thoughts, but you may be wrong in that assumption that title brings more merit's, just post helpful comments and you get your luck and merit's flows.


Title: Re: I think this forum is toxic for newbies.
Post by: nutildah on December 13, 2025, 12:03:16 AM
For actual newbies, ;) here's what they should do:

In trying to write a quality post worthy of merit, you should offer new ideas, personal experiences, or perspectives that other forum users will actually find new and interesting.

So this has been good advice for 7+ years and it is still largely ignored. I made the quote bigger so it might really stand out to newbies trying to get merits.

The problem is certain merit sources are so easy to con merits out of that all the account farmers would rather kiss their ring than formulate an original thought.

"I agree with you. DCA is the best strategy to get the bitcoins. I did 200 push-ups today, climbed 1000 stairs, and got my node running for the 14th day. Now will you please inspect this post and decide that it is merit-worthy? Go El Salvador! Go Michael Saylor!" - every account farmer


Title: Re: I think this forum is toxic for newbies.
Post by: Charcol on December 13, 2025, 12:19:54 AM
I think this forum is toxic for newbies. Because I noticed that most of the time those who are here with big titles like Legendary, Hero members get more Merit. I have proof of that. I just think that maybe it is quite difficult for us newbies. Can you tell me what I can do to get more Merit.

And the thread I created has been deleted.
Your clear statement shows that you are interested in gaining merit. There are many old members here who do not expect to gain merit in all their posts, why are you doing this?

The reason for deleting your previous post was that you copied it directly from your old thread and there was nothing different there. I immediately pointed it out. You are posting the same thing over and over again. And I warned you then. Along with that, I also drew the attention of the admin. So that they can take a good look at the thread you copied.
I'm surprised to see an user who make 48 posts and earn 6 merits complain if getting merit is hard? how about many newbies who create 200 posts and only earn 1 merit? how many merits you supposed to earn after making 48 posts?
There is a slight mistake in your writing. He has managed to post 24 so far. And he thinks he will gain merit in all the posts.


Title: Re: I think this forum is toxic for newbies.
Post by: BlackBoss_ on December 13, 2025, 03:39:54 AM
I think this forum is toxic for newbies. Because I noticed that most of the time those who are here with big titles like Legendary, Hero members get more Merit. I have proof of that. I just think that maybe it is quite difficult for us newbies. Can you tell me what I can do to get more Merit.
Any forum members with good posts, threads deserve to receive merit, and you can receive merit too if you make consistent good contributions for forum community by your posts and threads.

Merit is for good posts, if you don't have them, you can not receive merit.
When you start out, you are a Newbie, and you will run into various annoying limits. These limits will be reduced to the point where you shouldn't usually notice them after you have participated in the forum for a few weeks. If you are on the forum to talk, then that's all you really need to know about rank. Don't worry about it too much, and you will eventually rank up.

If you want to maximize your rank, then you need to increase two statistics which are listed on your profile:
  • Activity, which is maximized by posting once per day on average. Posting more than that is useless in raising your activity.
  • Merit, which is gained by making good posts.

If you make ten thousand posts in a week, your activity will be capped and you will still be a Newbie. If you make ten thousand useless posts over any period of time, you will gain zero merit and you will still be a Newbie. You can rank up only by making good posts consistently. It's quality over quantity.

When trying to write quality posts, a lot of people act as though they're writing a book report for school: putting facts that we already know into their own words. Nobody wants to read that, and you will not get merit for it. Moreover, the length of your post and the quality of your English are only minor factors. In trying to write a quality post worthy of merit, you should offer new ideas, personal experiences, or perspectives that other forum users will actually find new and interesting.

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And the thread I created has been deleted.
Useless posts and threads need to be deleted. It's good moderation according to forum rules.
1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads. [1][e]

2. No off-topic posts.

3. No trolling.


Title: Re: I think this forum is toxic for newbies.
Post by: SamReomo on December 13, 2025, 04:10:52 AM
I think this forum is toxic for newbies. Because I noticed that most of the time those who are here with big titles like Legendary, Hero members get more Merit. I have proof of that. I just think that maybe it is quite difficult for us newbies. Can you tell me what I can do to get more Merit.
First of all, I suggest you to change your thinking because the forum isn't toxic for newbies and anyone who's a good contributor gets merits and respect that he/she deserves. The members who're ranked as Legendary, Hero, have been on the forum for years and they've contributed a lot and that's the reason they get more merits, but that doesn't mean the newbies won't get any merits.

There have been many newbies who got many merits but those are the ones who contributed good stuff on the forum. I suggest you to write good stuff and share your honest opinion and if you can manage to create good and useful threads then do that as well. You'll see that overtime you'll start getting merits.