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Title: Building a LocalBitcoins alternative - You can invest and earn dividend
Post by: 100bitcoin on April 05, 2014, 08:04:01 AM
100bit.co.in (http://www.100bit.co.in)

We announced the inception of this project in March 22, 2014 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=526706.0) and building this project for more than a year now. In the process of development we came back to the community time & again and changed the functionalities of the site as per community demand. We also went through a public testing (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012209.0) to makes sure that the security holes are plugged. At this moment, our platform is mostly ready and few trades are taking place against various currencies. Following are the key features of 100bit.co.in...

1. Does not require bitcoin to stay deposited in the site. User deposits at the time of trading.

2. Bitcoin can be traded against both FIAT & Alt coins.

3. Trading cost 0.1% of the trade amount.


Now, standing before the next big leap, we need marketing, further development and introduction of new features, which requires capital. Being a 100% bitcoin project, we prefer to avoid FIAT investment. Rather, we thought about to accept people's investment in bitcoin, use blockchain to provide a transparent accounting and giving out dividend instantaneously on each trade. A similar model that was introduced by Just-Dice.

This whole investment idea is still at conceptualization level and we'd first like to hear community opinion about it. So, please feel free to tell us your opinion about it...

Note: The above write up is last updated on June 10, 2015.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Club - Peer to Peer exchange formation
Post by: BenAnh on April 05, 2014, 05:39:56 PM
I am planning to develop an online Bitcoin Club where members may join against a nominal fee in bitcoin...

To start off, members can exchange Bitcoin against FIAT with other members. The flow of Bitcoin will be automated through the club website, whereas flow of FIAT will be manual between user to user bank transfer. Only when the seller acknowledges the FIAT receival, buyer will be given the Bitcoin.

As an alternative for marketing expenditure, I am planning to give referral commission to club members.

Do you think an idea like this may take off ? Any suggestion is highly appreciated...
Yes and No! What's your background and you think you can build and scale something like this with BTC or LTC?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Club - Peer to Peer exchange formation
Post by: FreeBitcoins.com on April 06, 2014, 01:12:30 AM
If u r serious about your biz and want your customers to take u seriously, u should consider buying the domain name BitcoinClub.com
The owner is James and he wants only 3BTC for the name.
You should also purchase Bitcoin.Club from Godaddy.

Let's see how serious u r...it's your move!

Good Luck!!!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Club - Peer to Peer exchange formation
Post by: 100bitcoin on April 06, 2014, 08:36:43 AM
I am planning to develop an online Bitcoin Club where members may join against a nominal fee in bitcoin...

To start off, members can exchange Bitcoin against FIAT with other members. The flow of Bitcoin will be automated through the club website, whereas flow of FIAT will be manual between user to user bank transfer. Only when the seller acknowledges the FIAT receival, buyer will be given the Bitcoin.

As an alternative for marketing expenditure, I am planning to give referral commission to club members.

Do you think an idea like this may take off ? Any suggestion is highly appreciated...
Yes and No! What's your background and you think you can build and scale something like this with BTC or LTC?

I have an engineering background with experience in building scalable robust applications for multiple international clients. But, I think anyone can claim it over here. So I am building the proposed application with my team and will let the decision to be made by the bitcoiners.

If u r serious about your biz and want your customers to take u seriously, u should consider buying the domain name BitcoinClub.com
The owner is James and he wants only 3BTC for the name.
You should also purchase Bitcoin.Club from Godaddy.

Let's see how serious u r...it's your move!

Good Luck!!!


Thank you for your interest. Unfortunately I have already got my preferred domain to build this project upon...  :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Club - Peer to Peer exchange formation
Post by: BenAnh on April 06, 2014, 04:57:29 PM
I am planning to develop an online Bitcoin Club where members may join against a nominal fee in bitcoin...

To start off, members can exchange Bitcoin against FIAT with other members. The flow of Bitcoin will be automated through the club website, whereas flow of FIAT will be manual between user to user bank transfer. Only when the seller acknowledges the FIAT receival, buyer will be given the Bitcoin.

As an alternative for marketing expenditure, I am planning to give referral commission to club members.

Do you think an idea like this may take off ? Any suggestion is highly appreciated...
Yes and No! What's your background and you think you can build and scale something like this with BTC or LTC?

I have an engineering background with experience in building scalable robust applications for multiple international clients. But, I think anyone can claim it over here. So I am building the proposed application with my team and will let the decision to be made by the bitcoiners.

If u r serious about your biz and want your customers to take u seriously, u should consider buying the domain name BitcoinClub.com
The owner is James and he wants only 3BTC for the name.
You should also purchase Bitcoin.Club from Godaddy.

Let's see how serious u r...it's your move!

Good Luck!!!


Thank you for your interest. Unfortunately I have already got my preferred domain to build this project upon...  :)

So you're planning this with your team already and you need community feedbacks, no need for partnerships or investments?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Club - Peer to Peer exchange formation
Post by: 100bitcoin on April 07, 2014, 01:30:36 PM

So you're planning this with your team already and you need community feedbacks, no need for partnerships or investments?

Yes I need community feedback because I believe it is always good to count what the end user wants. Though I have connection with multiple local bitcoin groups and they are supporting this project, the participation of BitcoinTalk members would take project towards grand success.

No, I dont need investment at this stage. My previous experience for non-bitcoin projects with early stage investors are not so good. Though they ultimately invested and now sitting on their profit, they initially quizzed me like I have a plan to rob them !!! Investors also hinders to take action for project betterment that does not give them $$$. Moreover, finding bitcoin investors is quite a difficult task for me with no running book to show. So I prefer this project to run bootstrapped and once it starts making money coins, I'll open the door for investors.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Club - Peer to Peer exchange formation
Post by: BitcoinUK on April 24, 2014, 07:41:42 PM
I am formally going to announce my non-interest in this project. There is going to be no trolling, provoing or insulting comments and as such no need to delete this message.

But here is some constructive and professional critisisms:
Using a website is centralising. If all users have to go to one location to trade it is not peer-to-peer. It is purely a localbitcoins.com clone, nothing more nothing less.  Trying to make it sound like an exclusive club requiring membership fee's is just a sales pitch to glamourise a clone of localbitcoins.

I understand moderating this topic to remove threats, but this message although it opposes the OP's opinion, does not contain anything worthy of deleting. so i should hope to see the OP accepts the constructive critisisms, and not delete this message.

May you find a better business plan in the future that has actual community need.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Club - Peer to Peer exchange formation
Post by: kittucrypt on April 24, 2014, 08:07:13 PM
One question...why would someone pay fee for joining the platform?What is the value preposition of the platform?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Club - Peer to Peer exchange formation
Post by: 100bitcoin on May 04, 2014, 11:49:37 AM
I am formally going to announce my non-interest in this project. There is going to be no trolling, provoing or insulting comments and as such no need to delete this message.

But here is some constructive and professional critisisms:
Using a website is centralising. If all users have to go to one location to trade it is not peer-to-peer. It is purely a localbitcoins.com clone, nothing more nothing less.  Trying to make it sound like an exclusive club requiring membership fee's is just a sales pitch to glamourise a clone of localbitcoins.

I understand moderating this topic to remove threats, but this message although it opposes the OP's opinion, does not contain anything worthy of deleting. so i should hope to see the OP accepts the constructive critisisms, and not delete this message.

May you find a better business plan in the future that has actual community need.

First of all, I am never against constructive criticism and I dont see any reason to remove your post. Thread has been moderated to keep away troll and spam.

Yes, the exchange concept has much to do with localbitcoins. But that is not the only thing www.100bit.co.in is going to offer. As I said in my opening post...

Quote
To start off, members can exchange Bitcoin against FIAT with other members.

Other services will gradually be added to the club members.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Club - Peer to Peer exchange formation
Post by: Cryptopher on June 01, 2014, 03:19:53 AM
0.01 BTC joining fee has been introduced for 2 reason...

1. P2P exchange faces a problem of false buyers. Anyone just join the platform and try to scam sellers. To keep them at bay, we have introduced this small fee, as we understand 0.01 BTC is no big deal for a true trader.

I get why you might want to impose a fee to try and stop false buyers, but if they were going to scam then what is currently equivalent to approximately a $6 fee is not going to stop them. Of course, if Bitcoin continues to grow in price then it will be more.

I think that the fee is just a barrier to entry, unless you treat it as a bond which they can claim back upon successfully completing a couple of purchases.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Club - Peer to Peer exchange formation
Post by: 100bitcoin on June 11, 2014, 11:09:38 AM
0.01 BTC joining fee has been introduced for 2 reason...

1. P2P exchange faces a problem of false buyers. Anyone just join the platform and try to scam sellers. To keep them at bay, we have introduced this small fee, as we understand 0.01 BTC is no big deal for a true trader.

I get why you might want to impose a fee to try and stop false buyers, but if they were going to scam then what is currently equivalent to approximately a $6 fee is not going to stop them. Of course, if Bitcoin continues to grow in price then it will be more.

I think that the fee is just a barrier to entry, unless you treat it as a bond which they can claim back upon successfully completing a couple of purchases.


I absolutely agree with u on the fact that 0.01 BTC barrier cant stop a desperate scammer. But, it cant stop them, even if I make it 1 BTC. We are having different trust system and other functions to stop them. 0.01 BTC is to stop a casual buyer that just attempts to scam on a free system. It'll bring down the volume of scam attempts, but wont nullify it.

0.01 BTC is NOT a barrier to users. It'll be used like a marketing incentive to those who refer us to new users. Please check above to see how 0.01 BTC is going to be used to reward members.



Title: Re: Bitcoin Club - Peer to Peer exchange formation
Post by: kittucrypt on June 11, 2014, 01:10:30 PM
0.01 BTC joining fee has been introduced for 2 reason...

1. P2P exchange faces a problem of false buyers. Anyone just join the platform and try to scam sellers. To keep them at bay, we have introduced this small fee, as we understand 0.01 BTC is no big deal for a true trader.

I get why you might want to impose a fee to try and stop false buyers, but if they were going to scam then what is currently equivalent to approximately a $6 fee is not going to stop them. Of course, if Bitcoin continues to grow in price then it will be more.

I think that the fee is just a barrier to entry, unless you treat it as a bond which they can claim back upon successfully completing a couple of purchases.


I absolutely agree with u on the fact that 0.01 BTC barrier cant stop a desperate scammer. But, it cant stop them, even if I make it 1 BTC. We are having different trust system and other functions to stop them. 0.01 BTC is to stop a casual buyer that just attempts to scam on a free system. It'll bring down the volume of scam attempts, but wont nullify it.

0.01 BTC is NOT a barrier to users. It'll be used like a marketing incentive to those who refer us to new users. Please check above to see how 0.01 BTC is going to be used to reward members.



To me as a user, it does not matter how you use 0.01 btc. If the likelihood of getting scammed on this platform is as good as on any other platform, why would I bother paying 0.01?

And I dont think that 0.01 as a fee will bring down the volume of scams. The average scams run for 0.5-1 btc easily. 0.01 is hardly a cost.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Club - Peer to Peer exchange formation
Post by: Coinbuddy on June 11, 2014, 01:42:50 PM
if you want ideas and innovations then PM me.
i sell


Title: Re: Bitcoin Club - Peer to Peer exchange formation
Post by: BitCoinDream on June 12, 2014, 01:09:08 PM
if you want ideas and innovations then PM me.
i sell

Never heard of idea selling before. Someday, I'll probably hear about dream selling ...LoLz :D


Title: Re: Bitcoin Club - Peer to Peer exchange formation
Post by: 100bitcoin on July 19, 2014, 04:52:39 PM
0.01 BTC joining fee has been introduced for 2 reason...

1. P2P exchange faces a problem of false buyers. Anyone just join the platform and try to scam sellers. To keep them at bay, we have introduced this small fee, as we understand 0.01 BTC is no big deal for a true trader.

I get why you might want to impose a fee to try and stop false buyers, but if they were going to scam then what is currently equivalent to approximately a $6 fee is not going to stop them. Of course, if Bitcoin continues to grow in price then it will be more.

I think that the fee is just a barrier to entry, unless you treat it as a bond which they can claim back upon successfully completing a couple of purchases.


I absolutely agree with u on the fact that 0.01 BTC barrier cant stop a desperate scammer. But, it cant stop them, even if I make it 1 BTC. We are having different trust system and other functions to stop them. 0.01 BTC is to stop a casual buyer that just attempts to scam on a free system. It'll bring down the volume of scam attempts, but wont nullify it.

0.01 BTC is NOT a barrier to users. It'll be used like a marketing incentive to those who refer us to new users. Please check above to see how 0.01 BTC is going to be used to reward members.



To me as a user, it does not matter how you use 0.01 btc. If the likelihood of getting scammed on this platform is as good as on any other platform, why would I bother paying 0.01?

And I dont think that 0.01 as a fee will bring down the volume of scams. The average scams run for 0.5-1 btc easily. 0.01 is hardly a cost.

First of all, sorry for the delay. It will actually work for developing countries to bring in new members as part of the 0.01 BTC is going to be used as an incentive to the referrer. There are a lot of people out of the Bitcoin scenario in developing countries. We aim to reach them with mutual incentive. :)

And... there is no average of a scam attempt. The figure u r providing is highly fictitious. Anything that is NOT free is a hindrance to basic scam.




Title: Re: Bitcoin Club - Peer to Peer exchange formation
Post by: Cryptopher on July 19, 2014, 07:38:27 PM

First of all, sorry for the delay. It will actually work for developing countries to bring in new members as part of the 0.01 BTC is going to be used as an incentive to the referrer. There are a lot of people out of the Bitcoin scenario in developing countries. We aim to reach them with mutual incentive. :)

And... there is no average of a scam attempt. The figure u r providing is highly fictitious. Anything that is NOT free is a hindrance to basic scam.


To me, having to pay a figure, even a small figure is off-putting. I guess it isn't so bad with Bitcoin as it is really easy to send payment without having to fill in forms of personal details.

However if I were a scammer, 0.01 BTC sign up fee would not put me off whatsoever. I'd associate it as a cost associated with attempting to scam. If I scammed 1 BTC then my net gains would only be 0.01 BTC less than it would have been in the instance of free entry.

Sure you use the 0.01 BTC to incentivise referrals, but I wouldn't advertise it as a mechanism to greatly reduce scamming, because it really isn't. I read that the Silk Road had a bond of ~4 BTC (it varied according to market value) for sellers, which they received back after a number of successful trades and over a minimum period. Now that's what I call collateral.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Club - Peer to Peer exchange formation
Post by: 100bitcoin on July 20, 2014, 11:06:25 AM

First of all, sorry for the delay. It will actually work for developing countries to bring in new members as part of the 0.01 BTC is going to be used as an incentive to the referrer. There are a lot of people out of the Bitcoin scenario in developing countries. We aim to reach them with mutual incentive. :)

And... there is no average of a scam attempt. The figure u r providing is highly fictitious. Anything that is NOT free is a hindrance to basic scam.


To me, having to pay a figure, even a small figure is off-putting. I guess it isn't so bad with Bitcoin as it is really easy to send payment without having to fill in forms of personal details.

However if I were a scammer, 0.01 BTC sign up fee would not put me off whatsoever. I'd associate it as a cost associated with attempting to scam. If I scammed 1 BTC then my net gains would only be 0.01 BTC less than it would have been in the instance of free entry.

Sure you use the 0.01 BTC to incentivise referrals, but I wouldn't advertise it as a mechanism to greatly reduce scamming, because it really isn't. I read that the Silk Road had a bond of ~4 BTC (it varied according to market value) for sellers, which they received back after a number of successful trades and over a minimum period. Now that's what I call collateral.

Sorry to know that. But u may consider it as a membership cost to enjoy bitcoin related services at comparatively low cost, e.g. to start off, our exchange commission is going to be 0.0005BTC


Title: Re: Bitcoin Club - Peer to Peer exchange formation
Post by: Cryptopher on July 20, 2014, 11:32:56 AM

First of all, sorry for the delay. It will actually work for developing countries to bring in new members as part of the 0.01 BTC is going to be used as an incentive to the referrer. There are a lot of people out of the Bitcoin scenario in developing countries. We aim to reach them with mutual incentive. :)

And... there is no average of a scam attempt. The figure u r providing is highly fictitious. Anything that is NOT free is a hindrance to basic scam.


To me, having to pay a figure, even a small figure is off-putting. I guess it isn't so bad with Bitcoin as it is really easy to send payment without having to fill in forms of personal details.

However if I were a scammer, 0.01 BTC sign up fee would not put me off whatsoever. I'd associate it as a cost associated with attempting to scam. If I scammed 1 BTC then my net gains would only be 0.01 BTC less than it would have been in the instance of free entry.

Sure you use the 0.01 BTC to incentivise referrals, but I wouldn't advertise it as a mechanism to greatly reduce scamming, because it really isn't. I read that the Silk Road had a bond of ~4 BTC (it varied according to market value) for sellers, which they received back after a number of successful trades and over a minimum period. Now that's what I call collateral.

Sorry to know that. But u may consider it as a membership cost to enjoy bitcoin related services at comparatively low cost, e.g. to start off, our exchange commission is going to be 0.0005BTC

Wording it as a membership cost to start up etc doesn't sound so bad, but justifying it as a deterrent to reduce scammers isn't quite right.

Hope that it goes well! :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Club - Peer to Peer exchange formation
Post by: Victor Beckham on July 21, 2014, 10:15:35 AM
Nice project 100bit.co.in. Looking forward to the launch.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Club - Peer to Peer exchange formation
Post by: 100bitcoin on July 29, 2014, 10:09:10 AM

First of all, sorry for the delay. It will actually work for developing countries to bring in new members as part of the 0.01 BTC is going to be used as an incentive to the referrer. There are a lot of people out of the Bitcoin scenario in developing countries. We aim to reach them with mutual incentive. :)

And... there is no average of a scam attempt. The figure u r providing is highly fictitious. Anything that is NOT free is a hindrance to basic scam.


To me, having to pay a figure, even a small figure is off-putting. I guess it isn't so bad with Bitcoin as it is really easy to send payment without having to fill in forms of personal details.

However if I were a scammer, 0.01 BTC sign up fee would not put me off whatsoever. I'd associate it as a cost associated with attempting to scam. If I scammed 1 BTC then my net gains would only be 0.01 BTC less than it would have been in the instance of free entry.

Sure you use the 0.01 BTC to incentivise referrals, but I wouldn't advertise it as a mechanism to greatly reduce scamming, because it really isn't. I read that the Silk Road had a bond of ~4 BTC (it varied according to market value) for sellers, which they received back after a number of successful trades and over a minimum period. Now that's what I call collateral.

Sorry to know that. But u may consider it as a membership cost to enjoy bitcoin related services at comparatively low cost, e.g. to start off, our exchange commission is going to be 0.0005BTC

Wording it as a membership cost to start up etc doesn't sound so bad, but justifying it as a deterrent to reduce scammers isn't quite right.

Hope that it goes well! :)

Nice project 100bit.co.in. Looking forward to the launch.

Thank u for your feedback :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Club - Peer to Peer exchange formation
Post by: 100bitcoin on January 13, 2015, 02:27:53 PM
Happy New Year bitcoiners :)

A lot of things have taken place at our end in last few months. We did not expect it will take so much time, but we are happy to say, that at last we are close to launch. OP is updated with the latest info. Expecting support from the community...

The UI is almost ready. Check us out at www.100bit.co.in.


Title: Re: Creating a Direct Trading platform for FIAT & Alt Coins
Post by: 100bitcoin on April 19, 2015, 09:44:08 PM
www.100bit.co.in is now operational. We are looking for active traders from different locations...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=985796.0

If you have used the site, feel free to share your experience.


Title: Re: Creating a Direct Trading platform for FIAT & Alt Coins
Post by: newIndia on April 21, 2015, 06:09:22 PM
www.100bit.co.in is now operational. We are looking for active traders from different locations...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=985796.0

If you have used the site, feel free to share your experience.

Volume will grow slowly with time. Keep up the good support...


Title: Re: Building a LocalBitcoins alternative - You can invest and earn dividend
Post by: 100bitcoin on June 10, 2015, 11:45:40 AM
Small volume is building up against various local currencies, though it is still very low. We have updated the OP in a proposal form. Looking for people's feedback...


Title: Re: Building a LocalBitcoins alternative - You can invest and earn dividend
Post by: Albert Hamilton on June 10, 2015, 05:03:28 PM
Earning dividend from direct trading exchange ? Interesting concept I must say. Would be watching to see how this shapes up...


Title: Re: Building a LocalBitcoins alternative - You can invest and earn dividend
Post by: TigerMart on June 11, 2015, 11:25:16 PM
Small volume is building up against various local currencies, though it is still very low. We have updated the OP in a proposal form. Looking for people's feedback...

How frequent do you plan to give dividend ?


Title: Re: Building a LocalBitcoins alternative - You can invest and earn dividend
Post by: 100bitcoin on June 13, 2015, 11:16:37 AM
Small volume is building up against various local currencies, though it is still very low. We have updated the OP in a proposal form. Looking for people's feedback...

How frequent do you plan to give dividend ?

It will be instant with each trade execution. Dividend will be distributes according to stock holding.


Title: Re: Building a LocalBitcoins alternative - You can invest and earn dividend
Post by: TigerMart on June 14, 2015, 06:30:59 PM
Small volume is building up against various local currencies, though it is still very low. We have updated the OP in a proposal form. Looking for people's feedback...

How frequent do you plan to give dividend ?

It will be instant with each trade execution. Dividend will be distributes according to stock holding.

That is good. What if someone want to sell his holding and move on ? Will there be that provision ?


Title: Re: Building a LocalBitcoins alternative - You can invest and earn dividend
Post by: 100bitcoin on June 16, 2015, 09:29:23 PM
Small volume is building up against various local currencies, though it is still very low. We have updated the OP in a proposal form. Looking for people's feedback...

How frequent do you plan to give dividend ?

It will be instant with each trade execution. Dividend will be distributes according to stock holding.

That is good. What if someone want to sell his holding and move on ? Will there be that provision ?

Yes... in the long run there will be provision for it.