Title: [CLOSED] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: slush on December 27, 2011, 08:45:06 PM I'm involved in development of Electrum client (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50936.0), which is very cool concept of chainless Bitcoin clients. Electrum client don't handle copy of Bitcoin blockchain, but ask servers for necessary information. Few days ago I proposed new version of network protocol (https://docs.google.com/document/d/17zHy1SUlhgtCMbypO8cHgpWH73V5iUQKk_0rWvMqSNs/edit?hl=en_US&pli=1) and I'm implementing server on top of this specification (not finished yet; https://gitorious.org/electrum-server/electrum-server/). My goal is to provide general-purpose server protocol and implementation, which act as overlay network over Bitcoin p2p network, providing bitcoin-related services for lightweight clients, eshop implementations etc.
genjix suggested that such server protocol/implementation should have it's own name to not confuse Electrum users. Although I like name "Electrum", I agree that using another name for server side and protocol is really good idea. So I'm opening this contest to find some cool sounding name for such overlay network. I'm keeping the right to not pick any of suggested name and only the winner receive those 2 BTC. Please don't propose anything with bit* or *coin, I think there's already a lot of projects with similar names. Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name for an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: bulanula on December 27, 2011, 08:48:20 PM First !
I propose Electricity or Tesla or Electra or ... Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name for an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: Coinabul on December 27, 2011, 08:50:00 PM How about the Furnace Network™
;D Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: slush on December 27, 2011, 08:53:37 PM Thanks. I think the name should be a little more unique, making it easy to find relevant info in search engine (try "Bitcoin Tesla", you'll receive a lot of results about Nvidia Tesla).
Also it should not be some name with registered trademark. Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: bulanula on December 27, 2011, 08:55:20 PM OK. How about Electrine ?
Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: Mike Hearn on December 27, 2011, 09:19:17 PM I don't understand why you can't just extend the core Bitcoin protocol. Bitcoin nodes are already doing a lot of work for each transaction - how much more overhead is it to index all transactions by address/pubkey (might need migration away from bdb).
Title: redemerald Post by: Red Emerald on December 27, 2011, 09:19:26 PM How about electrolysis
Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: Bitsky on December 27, 2011, 09:20:24 PM Since Electrum is an alloy of silver and gold: ArAu.
Some of the oldest known coins are made of Electrum and were found in Lydia. They are called Stater. It's assumed that in Egypt, Electrum was called Asem. The obvious Net can be added to each of them too. Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: Bro on December 27, 2011, 09:44:54 PM positron, the antimatter counterpart of the electron (or positronum if you prefer)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positron (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positron) Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: slush on December 27, 2011, 09:58:44 PM I don't understand why you can't just extend the core Bitcoin protocol. Mike, this is contest about new name, not discussion about proposal. But feel free to open discussion in Electrum thread or on #electrum IRC. Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: ovidiusoft on December 27, 2011, 11:00:09 PM Unchained.
Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: sadpandatech on December 27, 2011, 11:15:42 PM Elektron
Flitter Pyramidion Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: casascius on December 27, 2011, 11:34:55 PM XCXP - Extensible Cryptounit Exchange Protocol
Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name for an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: molecular on December 28, 2011, 12:16:58 AM First ! I propose Electricity or Tesla or Electra or ... +1 electricity Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: slush on December 28, 2011, 12:18:30 AM I pretty like Electricity, but try to put "Bitcoin Electricity" to Google ... ;-)
Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: genjix on December 28, 2011, 12:19:34 AM While you know my suggestions:
Electrite (my favourite) and Electrolyte Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: slush on December 28, 2011, 12:36:48 AM Thanks for another suggestions.
Names don't need to be related to Electrum. Name should be also pronounceable and easy to write ;-). Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: niko on December 28, 2011, 12:37:45 AM +1 for Electrine. How about you create a poll with the suggested names so far?
Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: slush on December 28, 2011, 12:41:58 AM How about you create a poll with the suggested names so far? I'll wait one or two days to collect few sounding names and then I offer the poll. Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: cbeast on December 28, 2011, 02:08:01 AM Skybit Network
Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: Gavin Andresen on December 28, 2011, 02:38:03 AM TrundleNet (no reason)
Transactinator (T13 for short) Eleventy (because eleven is my favorite number) Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: the joint on December 28, 2011, 02:43:49 AM Elektrum (just swap the k)
Lucid (sounds clear and easy to me) LinkD (pronounced "linked," because of how it will interact with different servers) Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: HostFat on December 28, 2011, 02:45:04 AM Overbit
Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: finway on December 28, 2011, 02:50:30 AM Matrix
Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: markm on December 28, 2011, 04:38:02 AM SLOSH - Simple Lucid Overlay System Heuristics
Also known as Slush's Lucid Overlay System Heuristics. SLUSH - Slush's Lucid Underground System Heuristics (Or Simple ...) -MarkM- Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: 2112 on December 28, 2011, 05:33:28 AM Son of a Bit == Slush's Overlay Network over Bitcoin :)
Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: naypalm on December 28, 2011, 05:49:09 AM Any of these could be used with "Network", "net" or "link" to signify its a network technology.
Canopy Baldachin Gridworks Aegis 1BQgSLiGafmugox59Y4QKDefgVXHCm2g4 Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: the joint on December 28, 2011, 06:03:50 AM SLOSH - Simple Lucid Overlay System Heuristics Also known as Slush's Lucid Overlay System Heuristics. SLUSH - Slush's Lucid Underground System Heuristics (Or Simple ...) -MarkM- I see you like my idea of "lucid" :D Naypalm, I like the idea of 'canopy.' Nice one. Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: dunand on December 28, 2011, 06:13:28 AM What do you think of 'Hadron'.
Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: mc_lovin on December 28, 2011, 06:27:14 AM Electrobit
Electrocharge Chargebit Bitcurrent <-- i like this cuz its like bittorrent and electric current at the same time Bitvolt Juicebit Fluxbit Coinflux Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: niko on December 28, 2011, 06:28:10 AM Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: ThomasV on December 28, 2011, 08:32:57 AM ECB : Electrum Communication Babble.
For some reason I like the acronym. http://www.ecb.int/ecb/visits/gallery/shared/img/8_big.jpg Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: naypalm on December 28, 2011, 09:17:40 AM Unified Network Compressed Line Engine and Frontend with Unified Coliberated Key Entrance Response.
Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: molecular on December 28, 2011, 09:46:56 AM aether, quintessence (the fifth element: ether)
MoE ("Medium of Exchange" or "Money over Ethernet") Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: deepceleron on December 28, 2011, 10:51:10 AM Noobchain
network operating outside bit coin has an interesting name And as it is for accessing the blockchain in lightweight clients for noobs... Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: Mageant on December 28, 2011, 11:13:31 AM BCCN
Bitcoin Chainless Client Network Chainless-Net Nochain-Net Feather-Net Alpaca-Net Nakamoto-Net Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: caston on December 28, 2011, 01:30:14 PM cipher
Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: jothan on December 28, 2011, 06:32:25 PM bitblitz
blipnet bitquick blitcoin 15HM3UjMXdcvSZiaR1BK5WULgRaU7Uos4Z Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: jamesg on December 28, 2011, 06:37:31 PM bitserve
coinserve chainserve servechain 1MHoL67kGH6BY1x3rLBuLXc1Xg3WfuYbza Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: smickles on December 28, 2011, 06:40:04 PM How about
Quantum or Photon / Photum I like how it suggests what Electrum is made of Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: marcus_of_augustus on December 28, 2011, 08:54:51 PM Stratum
(new layer) or if it really is an unneccessary layer, "Administratum" ;) Edit: also reserving some stratum derivatives Superstratum (in latin literally overlay or 'the layer above/over /'on top of') Suprastratum Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: ripper234 on December 28, 2011, 10:04:45 PM Slush, is there an announce thread I can follow to get updates about the actual project?
If this is what I think it is, it's a great idea and will make developing clients that much easier. I actually came to this forum today to post a question about looking for such a network ... and after posting my question I found this post. Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: mrmx on December 28, 2011, 10:15:27 PM My 2 BTCents:
DooChain DooCh Doopla Techiest: BCNL BitcoinChainNegotiationLayer BCTL BitcoinChainTradingLayer ... Cheers! ;-) Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: slush on December 28, 2011, 11:43:12 PM marcus, "Stratum" sounds cool and I especially like the meaning of the word. It's my favourite choice so far...
Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: justusranvier on December 29, 2011, 12:22:19 AM Farad
Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: Red Emerald on December 29, 2011, 02:30:57 AM Slush, is there an announce thread I can follow to get updates about the actual project? I'm not slush, but here you go https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=55842.0 You will probably also be interested in electrum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50936.0 Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: paraipan on December 29, 2011, 02:47:16 AM marcus, "Stratum" sounds cool and I especially like the meaning of the word. It's my favourite choice so far... Sound good, yeah "Stratum Protocol" could be included in the standard client one day so that all ppl can be servers for the thin clients based on the protocol :) edit: there is a small chance that gateways to bitcoin network collecting some fees for their services ? would be a real incentive to run a full node that supports thin clients based on the proposed overlay protocol Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: Transisto on December 29, 2011, 03:07:02 AM marcus, "Stratum" sounds cool and I especially like the meaning of the word. It's my favourite choice so far... ScratumStrotum ... +1 Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: Luigi on December 29, 2011, 04:38:53 PM fertbit
treetop / bittop nebula Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: Hawkix on December 29, 2011, 04:44:12 PM I would use generic name for generic layer, not tied to Electrum. Rather, I would emphasize on the "thin", "light" clients the network allows to work:
Bitcoin LiteNet (you can pronounce also as "Bitcoin Lightened"). Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: ripper234 on December 29, 2011, 09:55:00 PM Overlord ... because it's "centralized"
I'm guessing this won't be chosen for practical reasons (I suspect it has a disturbing psychological effect as a project name), but I like it in a twisted way. Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: slush on December 29, 2011, 11:08:37 PM ripper234, although it's more centralized than bitcoin (which is pure p2p), it can be still called "decentralized", because anybody can run his own server or pick favourite server operator which he trust. Something like mailbox providers.
Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: slush on December 29, 2011, 11:12:12 PM From all proposed names, I feel like Stratum is clear winner for me. I'll still wait a day, but unless somebody propose even more superior name, I'll pick "Stratum" without a public poll (you can call it 'enlightened absolutism', heh). marcus_of_augustus, can you PM me your bitcoin address?
Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: ripper234 on December 29, 2011, 11:12:54 PM ripper234, although it's more centralized than bitcoin (which is pure p2p), it can be still called "decentralized", because anybody can run his own server or pick favourite server operator which he trust. Something like mailbox providers. I know, it was just a silly joke, inspired by people misjudging Overlay as a "bad move for Bitcoin because it's centralized". Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on December 29, 2011, 11:15:12 PM marcus, "Stratum" sounds cool and I especially like the meaning of the word. It's my favourite choice so far... ScratumStrotum ... +1 Not trying to be a butthead here, but those two choices are too similar to 'Scrotum'. Keep the suggestions coming for the naming of slush's project. ~Bruno~ Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: BinoX on December 30, 2011, 12:03:51 AM I propose the name: Orichalcum (or Orichalc if you're looking for something shorter, or Oricalc if you want it to be more about calculations :p)
Reason: As "Electrum is a naturally occurring alloy of gold and silver, with trace amounts of copper and other metals" (From Wiki) Orichalcum is a metal mentioned in several ancient writings, most notably the story of Atlantis as recounted in the Critias dialogue, recorded by Plato. According to Critias, orichalcum was considered second only to gold in value. I just thought it was fitting. Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: Red Emerald on December 30, 2011, 12:15:35 AM I'm not sure if the name should have anything to do with "electrum." At first I thought it should, but this proposal could be implemented by any exit node for thin clients.
Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on December 30, 2011, 01:16:14 AM alchemy --> alchemium --> alchemum (O results on Google, to date)
https://www.google.com/search?q=alchemy&hl=en&source=lnms&ei=WhD9TtD-FObU2AWvjJWKAg&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=1&ved=0CC4Q_AUoAA&biw=1280&bih=685#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=%22alchemum%22&psj=1&oq=%22alchemum%22&aq=f&aqi=g-l10&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=4088l6379l1l6661l2l2l0l1l0l0l165l165l0.1l1l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=406e82ce9e371013&biw=1280&bih=685 Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: marcus_of_augustus on December 30, 2011, 06:47:32 PM I'm not sure if the name should have anything to do with "electrum." At first I thought it should, but this proposal could be implemented by any exit node for thin clients. It is unavoidably related anyway by the technical task being performed, thin-client/bitcoin-server federation. Fortunately, they happen to share the same suffix, um. It could be nice to have any other thin clients identify with Stratum in a similar manner and hat-tip to the founding idea of Electrum, that now becomes the special case of the wider family, but it is not necessary, eg. Aurum, Hum, Drum, Plum, Rum, etc. Also related layers can easily be identified superstratum, substratum, etc. Slush : PM coming your way :) Hope you have fun with your new layer, Stratum. I wonder how much overlap there might be here with the OpenTransactions client-server federation crypto-currency transaction s/ware that is already built? Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: the joint on December 30, 2011, 07:04:22 PM In my opinion, many suggestions here are intelligent and clever, but they are not easily remembered and they are terrible for marketing.
Think of the name "Kinkos." This is an especially clever name for a store because it is highly marketable. And, the reason it is highly marketable is because human infants have the tendency to repeat words with tight consonants, and this tendency continues as people get older. Ever hear a baby call a pacifier a "binky?" Look at the names of the Teletubbies. 1.) Tinkie Winkie 2.) Dipsey 3.) La La 4.) Po Ko And, the names of the Pac-Man characters...(Stu is the oddball). That being said, I think there are still much better names out there. Edit: Thought I'd also throw "Barbie" on the list. Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: Herodes on December 30, 2011, 08:42:53 PM Lightpay
Title: Re: [contest] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: beckspace on December 30, 2011, 09:43:44 PM Orbit
Title: Re: [CLOSED] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: slush on December 30, 2011, 10:12:24 PM Contest is closed, I picked name "Stratum". I'm sending 2BTC to Marcus right now!
Title: Re: [CLOSED] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: Red Emerald on December 30, 2011, 10:40:03 PM Contest is closed, I picked name "Stratum". I'm sending 2BTC to Marcus right now! I liked that name best, too.Title: Re: [CLOSED] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: Bro on December 31, 2011, 12:05:21 AM yeah, scrotum is the clear winner
Title: Re: [CLOSED] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: slush on December 31, 2011, 01:28:11 AM Bro, I suppose you're giggling everytime you hear the word "Stratosphere" (aka Scrotosphere) or "Stratus" (aka Scrotus), right? :-)
"Stratum" is normal word and it's root is widely used in related words (like stratosphere), so I don't see anything wrong with this. However some people suggested that they have negative connotation to such word, so I'm not so sure now. Edit: "stratum" is even first suggestion for synonym at http://thesaurus.com/browse/layer . I don't see anything wrong here... Title: Re: [CLOSED] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: sadpandatech on December 31, 2011, 02:01:01 AM Bro, I suppose you're giggling everytime you hear the word "Stratosphere" (aka Scrotosphere) or "Stratus" (aka Scrotus), right? :-) "Stratum" is normal word and it's root is widely used in related words (like stratosphere), so I don't see anything wrong with this. However some people suggested that they have negative connotation to such word, so I'm not so sure now. Edit: "stratum" is even first suggestion for synonym at http://thesaurus.com/browse/layer . I don't see anything wrong here... Anyone telling you they envision something negative from the word Stratum is either trolling you or dropped out in 5th grade... cheers and gratz to Marcus Title: Re: [CLOSED] 2 BTC for suggesting a name of an overlay network on top of Bitcoin Post by: marcus_of_augustus on December 31, 2011, 08:50:16 PM There are the winners .......
and then there are the Losers. Edit: slush I'm happy to send you back the 2 btc if you think someone can find a better name. |