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Title: Bitcoin is on interpols radar
Post by: wrong_move on December 29, 2011, 12:18:25 AM
Just FYI bitcoin transfers i.e bank wires are being carefully watched by interpol, an internal memo has been circulated to gather intelligence and profile high value bitcoin transactions.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is on interpols radar
Post by: Peter.C on December 29, 2011, 12:31:03 AM
Do you have any links to back this claim up?


Title: Re: Bitcoin is on interpols radar
Post by: wrong_move on December 29, 2011, 04:18:59 AM
I have seen a copy of the memo. It is real, there 438 names on the current international watch list. 53 of those names are under a serious counter inteligence operation for money laundering activities. Warrants have been served for banking, phone records and for the isp logs. Softlayer Dallas has had open warrants on it for 6 months currently 176 board members are consider high value targets.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is on interpols radar
Post by: ineededausername on December 29, 2011, 04:27:23 AM
currently 176 board members are consider high value targets.

 ::)


Title: Re: Bitcoin is on interpols radar
Post by: netrin on December 29, 2011, 04:36:08 AM
That's interesting. If true, then the best way to move in and out of bitcoin is legitimate trade rather than via exchange market.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is on interpols radar
Post by: smickles on December 29, 2011, 05:04:47 AM
what is softlayer's connection with bitcoin?


Title: Re: Bitcoin is on interpols radar
Post by: 2112 on December 29, 2011, 05:33:14 AM
what is softlayer's connection with bitcoin?
Do a "traceroute bitcointalk.org" and answer your own question.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is on interpols radar
Post by: smickles on December 29, 2011, 05:46:02 AM
what is softlayer's connection with bitcoin?
Do a "traceroute bitcointalk.org" and answer your own question.
oh, I see.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is on interpols radar
Post by: Patrick||Rodgers on January 03, 2012, 06:11:57 AM
I have seen a copy of the memo. It is real, there 438 names on the current international watch list. 53 of those names are under a serious counter inteligence operation for money laundering activities. Warrants have been served for banking, phone records and for the isp logs. Softlayer Dallas has had open warrants on it for 6 months currently 176 board members are consider high value targets.

This sucks if true.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is on interpols radar
Post by: BTCurious on January 03, 2012, 06:37:49 AM
We'll see if it sucks.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is on interpols radar
Post by: Elwar on January 04, 2012, 08:06:07 PM
Softlayer Dallas has had open warrants on it for 6 months currently 176 board members are consider high value targets.

176 board members are using Bitcoin!!!!


WOOOOO HOOOO!!!!


Title: Re: Bitcoin is on interpols radar
Post by: RandyFolds on January 05, 2012, 01:37:37 AM
I have seen a copy of the memo. It is real, there 438 names on the current international watch list. 53 of those names are under a serious counter inteligence operation for money laundering activities. Warrants have been served for banking, phone records and for the isp logs. Softlayer Dallas has had open warrants on it for 6 months currently 176 board members are consider high value targets.

I don't think any business has 176 board members...

Also, bitcoin transfers, i.e. wire transfers? Sorry, fella...wire transfers are how the majority of the world's money moves around and have little to no link with bitcoin.

Why, exactly, would you risk your job and criminal charges to tell us if it were true?


Title: Re: Bitcoin is on interpols radar
Post by: realnowhereman on January 05, 2012, 02:03:40 AM
Doesn't hold up.

Bitcoin movements are unidentifiable. The only conceivable trace is at an exchange and that tells you nothing about who any withdrawals get sent to.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is on interpols radar
Post by: RandyFolds on January 05, 2012, 02:46:16 AM
Doesn't hold up.

Bitcoin movements are unidentifiable. The only conceivable trace is at an exchange and that tells you nothing about who any withdrawals get sent to.

You seem to be confused as to how the blockchain works...


Title: Re: Bitcoin is on interpols radar
Post by: LoupGaroux on January 05, 2012, 02:48:55 AM
Bullshit.

Softlayer is a hosting company. Federales would have to show up with specific and detailed warrants to review each and every hosting instance, approved by a judge, to be able to investigate anything. Judges do not permit blind fishing expeditions to watch "176 board members".

Furthermore, an internal Interpol memo would not be referencing illegal activities being done by authorities in the United States. And if such a fanciful document existed, it sure would not be shown to somebody who would immediately come and post it on a message forum that is hosted on the specific hosting company that is supposedly being investigated. Most especially not a new member with half a dozen posts. This is sock puppetry by the FUD squad.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is on interpols radar
Post by: RandyFolds on January 05, 2012, 03:32:47 AM
Bullshit.

Softlayer is a hosting company. Federales would have to show up with specific and detailed warrants to review each and every hosting instance, approved by a judge, to be able to investigate anything. Judges do not permit blind fishing expeditions to watch "176 board members".

Furthermore, an internal Interpol memo would not be referencing illegal activities being done by authorities in the United States. And if such a fanciful document existed, it sure would not be shown to somebody who would immediately come and post it on a message forum that is hosted on the specific hosting company that is supposedly being investigated. Most especially not a new member with half a dozen posts. This is sock puppetry by the FUD squad.

Do you recall the guy with the heavily redacted comicon pass FBI memo? That was a funny one.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is on interpols radar
Post by: PatrickHarnett on January 05, 2012, 04:26:01 AM
Just FYI bitcoin transfers i.e bank wires are being carefully watched by interpol, an internal memo has been circulated to gather intelligence and profile high value bitcoin transactions.

I have Interpol and 175 other security agencies on my list.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is on interpols radar
Post by: BurtW on January 05, 2012, 04:35:05 AM
Check out all SIX of his posts.  He starts out on silk road, then can't tell anyone where he works, then this.  Mr. SIX posts:  can you at least give us a photoshop of a fake document where you have blacked out random words?

That is what we are used to around here when it comes to this type of post.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is on interpols radar
Post by: tiberiandusk on January 05, 2012, 05:20:42 AM
Nice try CIA/Interpol/MI5/Mossad/GRU.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is on interpols radar
Post by: devoblackflag on January 05, 2012, 06:32:58 AM
Fuck tha government!


Title: Re: Bitcoin is on interpols radar
Post by: realnowhereman on January 05, 2012, 07:37:18 AM
Doesn't hold up.

Bitcoin movements are unidentifiable. The only conceivable trace is at an exchange and that tells you nothing about who any withdrawals get sent to.

You seem to be confused as to how the blockchain works...

In what way? (I am certainly not confused, I am writing an alternative client so am very familiar)

If I am a criminal then how do Interpol link my real world identity to some bitcoin addreseses? If they do find my mtgox account, and I have sent bought coins to another, freshly generated, address how will they find the real world identity of that address?

The blockchain offers no identifying information. Only where bitcoin touches the real world is a connection made and its pretty trivial to mix coins to break the financial link in the chain so real world connections are isolated from each other.

While the "bitcoins are anonymous" crowd are obviously wrong, it is not impossible to protect your identity even with a public transaction table.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is on interpols radar
Post by: tiker on January 05, 2012, 04:32:44 PM
You're assuming they're looking for you by your bitcoin address.

You send $$ to Mt.Gox which gets put into account with bitcoin address 1abc...

You log into Mt.Gox and transfer from address 1abc.. to 1def...

Mt.Gox logs your IP address for you logging in and transferring.... now we go to the internet provider of that IP address and start tracing that way.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is on interpols radar
Post by: Raoul Duke on January 05, 2012, 04:44:42 PM
You're assuming they're looking for you by your bitcoin address.

You send $$ to Mt.Gox which gets put into account with bitcoin address 1abc...

You log into Mt.Gox and transfer from address 1abc.. to 1def...

Mt.Gox logs your IP address for you logging in and transferring.... now we go to the internet provider of that IP address and start tracing that way.

Exactly, that's how we found YOU! Better look out  :o


Title: Re: Bitcoin is on interpols radar
Post by: Bricks on January 08, 2012, 01:21:15 AM
Regulators taking an interest in bit coin is something that should be welcomed.  Any currency will always have a number of enquiries into it. It's a sign that it's growing up.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is on interpols radar
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on January 08, 2012, 01:24:25 AM
Regulators taking an interest in bit coin is something that should be welcomed.  Any currency will always have a number of enquiries into it. It's a sign that it's growing up.

1+. Beat me to it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is on interpols radar
Post by: evoorhees on January 08, 2012, 03:15:47 AM
Hmmm I can think of nothing that would spread awareness of Bitcoin around the world faster than a massive Hollywood style crackdown on the top Bitcoin users around the world.

Some day, European and US gov's will realize that their heavy fists will simply squeeze and promote the currency in Asia.

At the point where such a silly thing went to trial, I can imagine the mother of all donations to a legal defense fund that would publicize the entire event around the earth.

And as far as I know, buying placeholders in an open-source software network is no more illegal than buying copies of microsoft word documents from your friends  ::)


Title: Re: Bitcoin is on interpols radar
Post by: JusticeForYou on January 08, 2012, 03:25:06 AM
I have seen a copy of the memo. It is real, there 438 9000 names on the current international watch list. 53 42 of those names are under a serious counter inteligence operation for money laundering activities. Warrants have been served for banking, phone records and for the isp logs. Softlayer Dallas has had open warrants on it for 6 666 months currently 176 419 board members are consider high value targets.


It is the Numerology that matters.  ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin is on interpols radar
Post by: BTCurious on January 08, 2012, 11:13:52 AM
I have seen a copy of the memo. It is real, there 438 9000 names on the current international watch list. 53 42 of those names are under a serious counter inteligence operation for money laundering activities. Warrants have been served for banking, phone records and for the isp logs. Softlayer Dallas has had open warrants on it for 6 666 months currently 176 419 board members are consider high value targets.


It is the Numerology that matters.  ;D

I used to use numbers like that, but then I took 140 arrows to the knee.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is on interpols radar
Post by: Gabi on January 08, 2012, 11:32:11 AM
I have seen a copy of the memo. It is real, there 438 9001 names on the current international watch list. 53 42 of those names are under a serious counter inteligence operation for money laundering activities. Warrants have been served for banking, phone records and for the isp logs. Softlayer Dallas has had open warrants on it for 6 666 months currently 176 419 board members are consider high value targets.


It is the Numerology that matters.  ;D


FIXED  :D