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Title: I am confused what exactly will happen to the price of bitcoin on April 15?
Post by: bitcoinsrus on April 07, 2014, 11:20:04 PM
I know what will happen to the banks in china.  But what will it all end up meaning?  What is the bottom line?  Will the price go up or down?


Title: Re: I am confused what exactly will happen to the price of bitcoin on April 15?
Post by: gentlemand on April 07, 2014, 11:22:31 PM
The last China armageddon was the 31st of January. The usual suspects on here screamed and screamed and screamed about the death of everything even more so than usual. I'm sure they'll be spurting all over this thread soon.

On the day itself absolutely nothing of note occurred. The falls were already priced in. Maybe it'll be the same this time. Maybe not. China will not let you know in advance.


Title: Re: I am confused what exactly will happen to the price of bitcoin on April 15?
Post by: RodeoX on April 07, 2014, 11:23:34 PM
Don't listen to predictions, it's just people making guesses. No one knows the future.
Why don't you guess? Your guessing is just as valid as anyone.  :)


Title: Re: I am confused what exactly will happen to the price of bitcoin on April 15?
Post by: LostDutchman on April 07, 2014, 11:24:08 PM
I know what will happen to the banks in china.  But what will it all end up meaning?  What is the bottom line?  Will the price go up or down?

Why should anything special happen to the price of BTC on April 15?

My $.02.

;)


Title: Re: I am confused what exactly will happen to the price of bitcoin on April 15?
Post by: mrdeposit on April 07, 2014, 11:25:21 PM
Don't listen to predictions, it's just people making guesses. No one knows the future.
Why don't you guess? Your guessing is just as valid as anyone.  :)

I couldn't agree more. We already seen the price drop from the news. The day of nothing should change because of it.


Title: Re: I am confused what exactly will happen to the price of bitcoin on April 15?
Post by: Dalmar on April 07, 2014, 11:28:12 PM
Nothing, unless Huobi or BTCChina halt fiat deposits. The PBOC will likely not make a public statement, as their strategy seems to be to slowly kill off bitcoin in China without causing more speculative interest.  


Title: Re: I am confused what exactly will happen to the price of bitcoin on April 15?
Post by: Bit_Happy on April 07, 2014, 11:31:06 PM
BTC price is so low that bad news will not have much effect.
Next big move will be UP.


Title: Re: I am confused what exactly will happen to the price of bitcoin on April 15?
Post by: y3804 on April 07, 2014, 11:32:56 PM
Well, I think most people here imagine that the ban only affects 3rd party payment processors (deadline for this ban is April 15th, which makes sense).

However, another major exchange (FXBTC, 10x more volume than BTC38) did receive a phone call from their banks to cancel their accounts. No other exchanges received any notice from banks, only 3rd party payments processors.

More recently, Bobby Lee told Coindesk that bank transfers will also be halted. Now, for most people, this is FUD, which is why we still didn't witness a big dump on the market. Here's what he said:

Quote from: Bobby Lee
“What we’re hearing is that banks will disallow us from using commercial bank accounts to store customer deposits, what’s not clear to us yet is whether the business of running a bitcoin exchange will be classed as legal or not.”

On April 4, a government paid shill made an interview saying that bank transfers will be halted. More evidence is emerging about bank cancelling their accounts with major exchanges. However, NONE OF THIS HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED, YET.

If it does happen, I expect a gigantic crash. For now, most people think it's FUD, I think it's very real. The government has good reasons to regulate Bitcoin.

OKCoin also announced that they're ready to move offshore. In any case, we need to wait for them to reveal their plans, nothing will happen otherwise

Most of the dumping until now (in the last two weeks) has been based on speculation about the ban. Nothing has happened yet.


Title: Re: I am confused what exactly will happen to the price of bitcoin on April 15?
Post by: UnDerDoG81 on April 08, 2014, 01:03:51 AM
The Chinese sold their coins already if BTC is really banned. Nobody is so stupid to wait until April 15th to sell his coins. Why would I wait until April 15th if I can sell them now for $450??

Nothing will happen.


Title: Re: I am confused what exactly will happen to the price of bitcoin on April 15?
Post by: LostDutchman on April 08, 2014, 01:05:56 AM
April 15 is the US tax filing deadline for most people and has nothing to do with China.

FUD.

My $.02.

;)


Title: Re: I am confused what exactly will happen to the price of bitcoin on April 15?
Post by: y3804 on April 08, 2014, 01:09:01 AM
The Chinese sold their coins already if BTC is really banned. Nobody is so stupid to wait until April 15th to sell his coins. Why would I wait until April 15th if I can sell them now for $450??

Nothing will happen.

They will sell only if Huobi/BTCChina announce that they halt bank transfers/fiat deposit/withdrawal.

Even the Chinese don't know what is going on. They won't wait until April 15th if the news are out before the deadline. But they will wait until the exchanges tell them to withdraw.


Title: Re: I am confused what exactly will happen to the price of bitcoin on April 15?
Post by: Bit_Happy on April 08, 2014, 01:10:18 AM
I what exactly will happen to the price of bitcoin on April 20th?
Easter Sunday:
Will the holiday be good or bad for BTC?    :P


Title: Re: I am confused what exactly will happen to the price of bitcoin on April 15?
Post by: Ibian on April 08, 2014, 01:25:29 AM
You are all forgetting about the blood moon. For millennia, blood moons have made investors and traders go mad!


Title: Re: I am confused what exactly will happen to the price of bitcoin on April 15?
Post by: LostDutchman on April 08, 2014, 01:59:29 AM
You are all forgetting about the blood moon. For millennia, blood moons have made investors and traders go mad!

Citation?

;)

My $.02.

;)


Title: Re: I am confused what exactly will happen to the price of bitcoin on April 15?
Post by: Ibian on April 08, 2014, 02:21:29 AM
You are all forgetting about the blood moon. For millennia, blood moons have made investors and traders go mad!

Citation?

;)

My $.02.

;)
It is written in the ancient scrolls of the crypto-church that on blood moons ordinary otherwise respectable money people turn into weresharks. Your local library might have a copy.


Title: Re: I am confused what exactly will happen to the price of bitcoin on April 15?
Post by: Wandererfromthenorth on April 08, 2014, 02:53:21 AM
On April 15th fucking nothing will happen.


Title: Re: I am confused what exactly will happen to the price of bitcoin on April 15?
Post by: vipgelsi on April 08, 2014, 03:05:10 AM
Nothing......


Title: Re: I am confused what exactly will happen to the price of bitcoin on April 15?
Post by: LostDutchman on April 08, 2014, 03:13:50 AM
You are all forgetting about the blood moon. For millennia, blood moons have made investors and traders go mad!

Citation?

;)

My $.02.

;)
It is written in the ancient scrolls of the crypto-church that on blood moons ordinary otherwise respectable money people turn into weresharks. Your local library might have a copy.

Well, now, I know about Landsharks but what are these weresharks fo which you speak?

My $.02.

;)


Title: Re: I am confused what exactly will happen to the price of bitcoin on April 15?
Post by: SmithsonJim on April 08, 2014, 08:31:41 AM
From what I saw it was false info. Especially after BTC China issued public letter regarding it.


Title: Re: I am confused what exactly will happen to the price of bitcoin on April 15?
Post by: Cassius on April 08, 2014, 08:52:51 AM
The Chinese sold their coins already if BTC is really banned. Nobody is so stupid to wait until April 15th to sell his coins. Why would I wait until April 15th if I can sell them now for $450??

Nothing will happen.

They will sell only if Huobi/BTCChina announce that they halt bank transfers/fiat deposit/withdrawal.

Even the Chinese don't know what is going on. They won't wait until April 15th if the news are out before the deadline. But they will wait until the exchanges tell them to withdraw.

I'd love to believe this. But Gox taught us that there's no accounting for greed. People were sending fiat to Gox right up to the last minute, even though it was clear to most people that something was very, very wrong and its time was limited. I don't see why the same shouldn't be true of the Chinese exchanges that are still running.


Title: Re: I am confused what exactly will happen to the price of bitcoin on April 15?
Post by: seanneko on April 08, 2014, 09:49:46 AM
Who even cares about China anymore? I forgot about them the very first time they banned Bitcoin last year.

Idiots just want any excuse to sell.


Title: Re: I am confused what exactly will happen to the price of bitcoin on April 15?
Post by: fonzie on April 08, 2014, 10:03:25 AM
Bitcoinsrus be prepared that we go below 200$ or even 100$ if China leaves the Bitcoin market.


Title: Re: I am confused what exactly will happen to the price of bitcoin on April 15?
Post by: koryu on April 08, 2014, 10:06:19 AM
in my estimation after april 15th third party payment processors are punished for dealing with bitcoin exchanges in china. the only way for withdrawals and funding is via bank transfer then.



Title: Re: I am confused what exactly will happen to the price of bitcoin on April 15?
Post by: fonzie on April 08, 2014, 10:07:48 AM
in my estimation after april 15th third party payment processors are punished for dealing with bitcoin exchanges in china. the only way for withdrawals and funding is via bank transfer then.



No, this time also bank transfers get banned, that´s the reason why BTC will crash so hard.


Title: Re: I am confused what exactly will happen to the price of bitcoin on April 15?
Post by: Cassius on April 08, 2014, 10:13:53 AM
The real question is how much is already priced in. That's the Gox scenario of traders continuing to trade up to the wire.
We'll know after the 15th, unless the PBoC just lets it slide for a few exchanges, which also seems possible...


Title: Re: I am confused what exactly will happen to the price of bitcoin on April 15?
Post by: RodeoX on April 08, 2014, 01:40:15 PM
The real question is how much is already priced in. ...
+1
I can't believe that anyone with real money is going to wait until a deadline. They did not get that money in the first place by sitting around waiting for things to happen. Some people make things happen rather than letting things happen to them.


Title: Re: I am confused what exactly will happen to the price of bitcoin on April 15?
Post by: Dafar on April 08, 2014, 02:03:06 PM
The price is gonna stay exactly the same on April 15th.. maybe +/- $30... which is nothing. Price is always factored in before any deadlines


Title: Re: I am confused what exactly will happen to the price of bitcoin on April 15?
Post by: Cassius on April 08, 2014, 02:48:16 PM
This should be the case. I'm not convinced, though. Gox says otherwise.


Title: Re: I am confused what exactly will happen to the price of bitcoin on April 15?
Post by: Sawadekub on April 08, 2014, 03:02:54 PM
Fuck u fonzie.. wanna take a 1btc bet? Stop your fking fud..2btc i can afford too no problems


Title: Re: I am confused what exactly will happen to the price of bitcoin on April 15?
Post by: OleOle on April 08, 2014, 03:13:09 PM

Maybe if the BTC price does crash and stay low for a while people will perhaps treat it as a currency again and start spending their coins...?

Who am I kidding? They won't do that, they'll just keep hoarding them. Is it any wonder that regulators around the world [correctly] perceive and classify Bitcoin as a commodity and not a currency?

As for April 15th, does it matter? Bitcoin as a currency is dying - obsolescence through inertia.

 :-\