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Title: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: fonzie on April 08, 2014, 11:09:11 AM
http://i57.tinypic.com/2e5s7ir.jpg


Starting from the Coin Desk article (http://"http://www.coindesk.com/major-security-flaw-heartbleed-puts-critical-services-risk/") there is this test site :
http://filippo.io/Heartbleed/ (http://filippo.io/Heartbleed/)

Here are my test results :
(list from bitcoinwisdom)

All good, btc-e.com:443 seems not affected!
All good, cavirtex.com:443 seems not affected!
All good, bitcoin.de:443 seems not affected!
All good, coinbase.com:443 seems not affected!
All good, kraken.com:443 seems not affected!
All good, bitfinex.com:443 seems not affected!
All good, bter.com:443 seems not affected!

bitstamp.net:443 IS VULNERABLE
btcchina.com:443 IS VULNERABLE
okcoin.com:443 IS VULNERABLE
cryptsy.com:443 IS VULNERABLE

The test site did error with a couple of sites, namely huobi.com and campbx.com

A bit more detail lifted from the article for the lazy :
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Exploiting Heartbleed, an attacker could access the RAM of affected systems, allowing them to see up to 64 kilobytes of data at a time – enough to build up enough knowledge to access a system’s secret keys. Those keys are used to encrypt and decrypt sensitive traffic and identify service providers.

IF YOU WANT TO CONTRIBUTE PLEASE WRITE CAPS-ALL ONLY AS THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS ISSUE!


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: DrBitcoin on April 08, 2014, 11:16:16 AM
-100


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: fonzie on April 08, 2014, 11:19:22 AM
LOGIN DISABLED BUT DAMAGE HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE!!!!!!!!! ALL COINS GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SELL NOW BEFORE WE ENTER SUB SINGLE DIGITS

HOLY SHIT. MAY GOX GOD HELP US. IS THIS THE END OF BITCOIN?

WHAT WOULD HE SAY:

!STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM BITCOIN!, PROBABLY. !ITīS THE WORK OF THE DEVIL!

http://25.media.tumblr.com/3546cd131fe99558b42143c311438cae/tumblr_mi0eycDSks1r2p31ho6_1280.jpg


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: Hpotsirc on April 08, 2014, 11:19:50 AM
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Bitstamp ‏@Bitstamp 24 Min.

#Bitstamp turns off its accregistration, login & all virtual currency withdrawal functions as a precaution following recent OpenSSL news.
Also the trading is still working and there is no huge dump. So obviously the API users (such as me) dont give a fuck.
Oh and btw nice unbiased poll as usually ^^


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: silverston on April 08, 2014, 11:21:31 AM
sorry for question, fonzie, but WHAT SHIT ARE YOU SMOKING ALL THE TIME?  ;D


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: fonzie on April 08, 2014, 11:21:50 AM
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Bitstamp ‏@Bitstamp 24 Min.

#Bitstamp turns off its accregistration, login & all virtual currency withdrawal functions as a precaution following recent OpenSSL news.
Also the trading is still working and there is no huge dump. So obivously the API users (such as me) dont give a fuck.

GREAT DEAL FOR ANYBODY WHOīS NOT USIN BITSTAMP THROUGH API. THEY CANīT EVEN REMOVE THEIR BUY ORDERS WHILE YOU HAPPY FUCK DUMP INTO THEM. BAD KARMA FOR YOU!


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: fonzie on April 08, 2014, 11:32:46 AM
BTW HUOBIS TRADING DATA LAGS ABOUT 25 MINUTES! THEY COULD ALREADY BE DOWN @ 200$ AND WE WOULDNīT KNOW IT!
GOX 2.0 ITīS HAPPENIN , BUT EVEN WORSE.
HUOBI = GOX
BITSTAMP CANīT EVEN FOLLOW THE LAGGING DATA BECAUSE THEY ARE DOWN!
WTF IS GOIN ON. I CANīT STAND THIS ANYMORE.


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: fonzie on April 08, 2014, 11:34:22 AM
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Bitstamp ‏@Bitstamp 24 Min.

#Bitstamp turns off its accregistration, login & all virtual currency withdrawal functions as a precaution following recent OpenSSL news.
Also the trading is still working and there is no huge dump. So obivously the API users (such as me) dont give a fuck.

GREAT DEAL FOR ANYBODY WHOīS NOT USIN BITSTAMP THROUGH API. THEY CANīT EVEN REMOVE THEIR BUY ORDERS WHILE YOU HAPPY FUCK DUMP INTO THEM. BAD KARMA FOR YOU!

THAT IS ACTUALLY A GOOD AND SCARY POINT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CUSTOMERS WILL LIKELY SUE AND STAMP WILL BE FORCED TO CLOSE DOWN AND WITH CHINA GONE ONLY BTC-E IS LEFT!!!!!!! I CAN SMELL WALL STREET MONEY ENTERING ANY SECOND NOW!!!!

I DONīT THINK THAT BITSTAMP HAS ENOUGH MONEY TO SETTLE THIS DOWN IF THOUSANDS OF CUSTOMERS WILL SUE THEM!


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: Hpotsirc on April 08, 2014, 11:35:06 AM
GREAT DEAL FOR ANYBODY WHOīS NOT USIN BITSTAMP THROUGH API. THEY CANīT EVEN REMOVE THEIR BUY ORDERS WHILE YOU HAPPY FUCK DUMP INTO THEM. BAD KARMA FOR YOU!
Uh i just got fonzied, i feel quite honored ;D Anyway i am holding just like throughout all the last days. Way too less volume to make decent trades and also no clear trend on a larger scale. Anyway:
Hazek has addressed Bitstamps vunerability in the Bistamp thread.

In summary he says that the reason they come up as vunerable is most likely due to their anti DDoS provider as they have patched their back end. Logins as well as withdraws disabled until they confirm.


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: barbs on April 08, 2014, 11:52:33 AM
Wait a minute

MTgox website isn't working???

Anyone know what happened there?

How am I supposed to panic sell


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: fonzie on April 08, 2014, 11:54:01 AM
 :D :D :D :D


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: fonsie on April 08, 2014, 12:42:49 PM
All major banking sites are going down as we speak, convert fiat to BTC while you still can, tomorrow could be too late, only bitcoin is safe because of SSL bug.


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: fonzie on April 08, 2014, 12:46:01 PM
All major banking sites are going down as we speak, convert fiat to BTC while you still can, tomorrow could be too late, only bitcoin is safe because of SSL bug.

Donīt listen to "fonsie" he is a paid troll, probably by the evil Bitcoin Foundation. Donīt fall for this trap


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: sgbett on April 08, 2014, 12:47:49 PM
Today I actually needed to use bitcoin for non-speculative purposes (sending money abroad) and this shit happens.  :-\

so send it...

or do you herp keep all your BTC at an exchange?


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: fonsie on April 08, 2014, 12:50:13 PM
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Donīt listen to "fonsie" he is a paid troll, probably by the evil Bitcoin Foundation. Donīt fall for this trap

Yes, but luckily they pay in BTC, would have been stupid standing there with all FIAT now that the banking ponzi comes crashing down because of SSL bug.

Since you obviously know my employer... Can I ask who yours is? For spreading all these false FUD posts of yours?


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: fonzie on April 08, 2014, 12:53:18 PM
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Donīt listen to "fonsie" he is a paid troll, probably by the evil Bitcoin Foundation. Donīt fall for this trap

Yes, but luckily they pay in BTC, would have been stupid standing there with all FIAT now that the banking ponzi comes crashing down because of SSL bug.

Since you obviously know my employer... Can I ask who yours is? For spreading all these false FUD posts of yours?

I am a free man, i have no master. I do not spread "FUD" i try to protect and and enlighten the people of planet earth.


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: fonsie on April 08, 2014, 12:56:43 PM
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I am a free man, i have no master. I do not spread "FUD" i try to protect and and enlighten the people of planet earth.

Hey, what a BTCcoincidence... ME TOO, we are gonna be buddies.

to da MOON MARS


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: nakaone on April 08, 2014, 01:01:40 PM
seriously what the fuck is wrong with this guy


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: fonzie on April 08, 2014, 01:17:50 PM
Once again people rather choose to question my personality instead of facing and dsicussing the facts that right now a lot of the exchanges are having problems. How will you feel if Bitcoin goes down to 100$ and you canīt sell because itīs not possible to login at Bitstamp?


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: fonsie on April 08, 2014, 01:25:14 PM
Why would you sell your BTC for worthless FIAT? All the major banking sites are crashing because of SSL bug  ???

Only bitcoin is unaffected and 100% secure.


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: adamstgBit on April 08, 2014, 01:37:38 PM
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STATEMENT REGARDING OPENSLL VULNERABILITY
Dear Bitstamp clients,

After reported vulnerabilities in OpenSSL, we applied necessary patches to our system. Incapsula, our DDOS mitigation provider is still working patching their system.

In order to provide required security, both system need to be patched. We are in constant contact with Incapsula and are working with them to complete necessary procedures. Until then Bitstamp has decided to temporally deactivate:

-account registration,
-account login
-and all virtual currency withdrawal functions

We will keep you updated on the progress.

Thank you for understanding.

Best regards
Bitstamp team


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: fonzie on April 08, 2014, 01:39:47 PM
Thanks Adam for contributing FACTS to my thread.

China is now also aware of the problem.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=561416.0

什么东西?好乱?

Google translated for those of you who donīt speak chinese:



What? What a mess?


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: bitcoinforhelp on April 08, 2014, 01:41:54 PM
trying to get people panic ;), this is no major issue, easily resolved


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: Easy2Mine on April 08, 2014, 02:17:27 PM
seriously what the fuck is wrong with this guy
The guy is short selling BTC.
Shortsellers profit from price crashing a lot because of the leverage.
If BTC price suddenly goes up, they can lose everything unless they have set up a stopless to minimalize their loses.
From stasitic information, shortsellers are mostly people who don't have enough money to invest in the real value of stocks or in this case BTC itself.
You don't need much money to gain a huge potential profit because of the leverage.
The downside is, they overestimated themself and invested more than they can afford to lose.
If you look at the stock markets, most of the bankers or traders who commit suicide are shortsellers.
If something goes wrong, then it really goes wrong, putting them in a situation with almost no way out.

A shortseller usually will try to talk the market down, manipulating information or even planting false information into the world to disgrace the company they are shorting.
Bitcoin is no difference than a stock registered at Dow Jones, Nasdaq, Hangseng or the Dutch AEX.
If you see their posting frequency is going up and they are using a lot of different sources with a complete different view of the situation, then you have to sell or wait untill the shit is over.
They try to enlarge the fear to create a bigger fall of the stock they are shorting.

If you see their posting frequency is going up and they are keep repeating their posts without adding something new (when there is no new information available), or when they changing the information in their benefit and spreading FUD
They are in trouble, they try to change the direction to benefiet themself.

Most of the shortsellers are in trouble at this moment, the price is doing nothing untill after 15 april
They even start to post in localize subforums to create fear using Google translator to attract more viewers.
Google translator, Bing or whatever translator they are using don't translate accurate between Chinese caracters and the Roman alfabet.
Even between Roman alfabets, the translation if often funny.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=561416.0
The Chinese don't use bitcointalk.org as a bitcoin forum, they have their own version like they have Weibo for Twitter, WeChat for WhatsApp, Baidu for Google and so on.
Most of them can't read English and when they do, most of them have a basic level of understandig English.

The more we approach 15 april and nothing will happens in the meantime, the more desperate they will be.
Creating more FUD and anything between, somehow it is funny how dumb they look at the end.
Shortsellers don't care if you lose money, they will sell anyone out, even if it is their own mother to talk their way out.
Most of the people here are for personal gain, so we are not that different, but for some people their are limits.

There are not much options left until after 15 april when it becomes clear if the rumors are true or not.
Sit tight and wait untill it is over.
Sell your BTC if you can stand the heat until after 15 april.
Talk your way up with FUD
Talk you way down with FUD


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: fonsie on April 08, 2014, 02:27:50 PM
This is probably SPOT ON.

PS: Don't confuse Fonzie with Fonsie, unlike Fonzie, Fonsie does have enough fiat to INVEST in BTC long term, and the whole SSL bug affects the entire internet, some say it even affects dog shit, if the dog wishes to do it securely...


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: Okurkabinladin on April 08, 2014, 02:32:12 PM
Quote
STATEMENT REGARDING OPENSLL VULNERABILITY
Dear Bitstamp clients,

After reported vulnerabilities in OpenSSL, we applied necessary patches to our system. Incapsula, our DDOS mitigation provider is still working patching their system.

In order to provide required security, both system need to be patched. We are in constant contact with Incapsula and are working with them to complete necessary procedures. Until then Bitstamp has decided to temporally deactivate:

-account registration,
-account login
-and all virtual currency withdrawal functions

We will keep you updated on the progress.

Thank you for understanding.

Best regards
Bitstamp team

Who is doing buying and selling on Bitstamp now, that we cannost login? There is still volume... https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/bitstamp/btcusd


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: Hpotsirc on April 08, 2014, 02:52:28 PM
Who is doing buying and selling on Bitstamp now, that we cannost login? There is still volume... https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/bitstamp/btcusd
People that have access via the Bitstamp API. Everybody can set this up for his account but i think it is mostly used for bots.


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: Easy2Mine on April 08, 2014, 04:14:49 PM
http://filippo.io/Heartbleed/


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: podyx on April 08, 2014, 04:25:33 PM
Is it neccessary to change password after this?


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: fonzie on April 08, 2014, 04:27:40 PM
Is it neccessary to change password after this?

Bitstamp and Bitfinex both did recommend this!


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: dogechode on April 08, 2014, 04:48:22 PM
If something goes wrong, then it really goes wrong, putting them in a situation with almost no way out.

That is because with regular investing, you buy X amount and the most you can lose is what you invested (100%.) With short-selling, there is a limit on what you can gain, because the value of whatever you are short-selling can only go down to zero. However, if it goes UP, you can be royally screwed as it can theoretically go up an infinite amount.


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: silverfuture on April 08, 2014, 05:34:47 PM
is it ponzie, fonsie, fonzie, lonzie, or conzie?  

I always get them mixed up.

Wrongzie?  about to get his (short) shorts squeezed.


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: dogechode on April 08, 2014, 06:08:48 PM
In other news, the sky is falling


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: fonzie on April 08, 2014, 06:26:13 PM
is it ponzie, fonsie, fonzie, lonzie, or conzie?  

I always get them mixed up.

Wrongzie?  about to get his (short) shorts squeezed.

Iīm honoured that you all care about me. But i started shorting @ 820(follow my history) . I made a pervert amount of money with it.
Everything is ok with me. Donīt be scared. My latest short position that i took ~503 will close automatically if we should go near 500$.


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: podyx on April 08, 2014, 06:47:26 PM
Is it neccessary to change password after this?

Bitstamp and Bitfinex both did recommend this!

okay thanks 8)


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: fonzie on April 08, 2014, 08:35:28 PM
The heartbleed bug could have compromised private keys from root certificate authorities. Trust in the security of browser-based crypto will be diminished, with the side effect of less trust of other cryptographic technologies such as crypto-currencies. Bearish for Bitcoin.


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: johnyj on April 08, 2014, 08:37:38 PM
Bitstamp is still working from here  ???


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: adamstgBit on April 08, 2014, 08:40:43 PM
ya it appears to be back.


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: adamstgBit on April 08, 2014, 08:41:20 PM
where's our cheap practically free coins?


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: fonzie on April 08, 2014, 08:49:34 PM
The heartbleed bug could have compromised private keys from root certificate authorities. Trust in the security of browser-based crypto will be diminished, with the side effect of less trust of other cryptographic technologies such as crypto-currencies. Bearish for Bitcoin.

You think CAs would not patch openssl if they used one?  It is a simple recompile to remove the heartbeat extension or apply a patch and recompile.

Bitstamp installed new certs today, check for yourself.

Ok thanks i will check it.


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: leopard2 on April 09, 2014, 12:21:30 AM
OH NO I JUST FOUND OUT ALL BANKS USE SSL FOR ONLINE BANKING

WORLDWIDE BANK CRASH INCOMING - NO FIAT PAYMENTS POSSIBLE FOR WEEKS - END OF DAYS IS COMING

GET OUT OF FIAT WHILE U CAN  :o

ONLY GOLD AND BTC WILL WORK SO 1 BTC == 100 000 $ SOON


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: awesomeami on April 09, 2014, 12:26:56 AM
OH NO I JUST FOUND OUT ALL BANKS USE SSL FOR ONLINE BANKING

WORLDWIDE BANK CRASH INCOMING - NO FIAT PAYMENTS POSSIBLE FOR WEEKS - END OF DAYS IS COMING

GET OUT OF FIAT WHILE U CAN  :o

ONLY GOLD AND BTC WILL WORK SO 1 BTC == 100 000 $ SOON
+1


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: bitcoinsrus on April 09, 2014, 12:29:22 AM
OH NO I JUST FOUND OUT ALL BANKS USE SSL FOR ONLINE BANKING

WORLDWIDE BANK CRASH INCOMING - NO FIAT PAYMENTS POSSIBLE FOR WEEKS - END OF DAYS IS COMING

GET OUT OF FIAT WHILE U CAN  :o

ONLY GOLD AND BTC WILL WORK SO 1 BTC == 100 000 $ SOON

http://therantommenace.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/shockedbaby1.jpg


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: andyatcrux on April 09, 2014, 12:38:46 AM
https://i.imgur.com/lMM6llO.gif

The only thing left to do is to quote myself SEVERAL TIMES IN CAPS!!!


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: YipYip on April 09, 2014, 01:30:33 AM
Pure bullshit once again .....

Lolz....

STAMP overnight international TT transfers are AWESOME !!!


Title: Re: MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGES DOWN AND VULNERABLE
Post by: leopard2 on April 09, 2014, 09:53:28 PM
OH NO I JUST FOUND OUT ALL BANKS USE SSL FOR ONLINE BANKING

WORLDWIDE BANK CRASH INCOMING - NO FIAT PAYMENTS POSSIBLE FOR WEEKS - END OF DAYS IS COMING

GET OUT OF FIAT WHILE U CAN  :o

ONLY GOLD AND BTC WILL WORK SO 1 BTC == 100 000 $ SOON

http://therantommenace.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/shockedbaby1.jpg

LOL

Yep, scaring BTC newbies with China news is like this  :D