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Title: Gavin Andresen Switches Focus from Lead Developer
Post by: S4VV4S on April 08, 2014, 12:15:08 PM
Wladimir van der Laan, to take his place.

http://www.coindesk.com/gavin-andresen-steps-bitcoins-lead-developer/




Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Steps Down as Bitcoin’s Lead Developer
Post by: cosmofly on April 08, 2014, 12:18:51 PM
He lost faith in Bitcoin and realized it's broken beyond repair


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Steps Down as Bitcoin’s Lead Developer
Post by: S4VV4S on April 08, 2014, 12:20:11 PM
He lost faith in Bitcoin and realized it's broken beyond repair

Or maybe he has enough coins that he doesn't need to bother anymore ;)


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Steps Down as Bitcoin’s Lead Developer
Post by: st4nl3y on April 08, 2014, 12:21:57 PM
He lost faith in Bitcoin and realized it's broken beyond repair

Or maybe he has enough coins that he doesn't need to bother anymore ;)

or both.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Steps Down as Bitcoin’s Lead Developer
Post by: S4VV4S on April 08, 2014, 12:25:53 PM
He lost faith in Bitcoin and realized it's broken beyond repair

Or maybe he has enough coins that he doesn't need to bother anymore ;)

or both.

It can't be both because if he lost faith he would have dumped all his coins....


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Steps Down as Bitcoin’s Lead Developer
Post by: superresistant on April 08, 2014, 12:27:49 PM

He's probably going for Nxt.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Steps Down as Bitcoin’s Lead Developer
Post by: Denton on April 08, 2014, 12:28:34 PM
It's kind of sad because Gavin was hand-picked by Satoshi.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Steps Down as Bitcoin’s Lead Developer
Post by: whtchocla7e on April 08, 2014, 12:34:04 PM
The experiment is coming to an end.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Steps Down as Bitcoin’s Lead Developer
Post by: Lorenzo on April 08, 2014, 12:35:15 PM
It's kind of sad because Gavin was hand-picked by Satoshi.

Was Wladimir hand-picked by Gavin? If so, then I guess you could say that Satoshi's legacy lives on.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Steps Down as Bitcoin’s Lead Developer
Post by: S4VV4S on April 08, 2014, 12:37:57 PM
The experiment is coming to an end.

Why so?
It's an open source project.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Steps Down as Bitcoin’s Lead Developer
Post by: dreamspark on April 08, 2014, 12:39:53 PM
I think its a good thing that Gavin takes a backseat on code maintenance and overall more encompassing view of the whole of the project,  a lot of the contributions recently have come from Wladimir so the code is in good hands. I actually think Gavin has more potential than just coding and this change will allow him to fulfill that.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Steps Down as Bitcoin’s Lead Developer
Post by: 5flags on April 08, 2014, 12:43:25 PM
The signal to noise ratio on this damn forum is asymptotically approaching zero.

He is essentially being "promoted" to Chief Scientist to work on Bitcoin's mid to long term challenges, namely transaction pruning.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Steps Down as Bitcoin’s Lead Developer
Post by: ChuckBuck on April 08, 2014, 12:51:59 PM
He's not quitting Bitcoin fellas, he's just allocating his time elsewhere.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Steps Down as Bitcoin’s Lead Developer
Post by: Mitzplik on April 08, 2014, 01:02:46 PM
Maybe he noticed that the pressure from bitcoin venture investors is real and they will try hard to tame bitcoin, so they can safely build businesses linking bitcoin to the actual financial system.

Gavin had felt this pressure when the core team received a letter earlier this year, in which investors claimed to have more space in the blockchain for other data.

Allaire is one of the leaders of this trend and he is iron-decided to submit bitcoin to certain rules, like attaching identities to transactions, so governments can feel comfortable. Why? because he wants to exploit the bitcoin network and technology to make millions.

This fight will be massive. On one side the Blockchain radicals, like Andreas Antonopoulos and blockchain.info guys, on the other side, Marc Andressen and Jeremy Allaire as representatives of the capital owners and the status quo.

It seems to me that bitcoin is wild enough to dodge this attempt to be owned.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Steps Down as Bitcoin’s Lead Developer
Post by: Cryptogirl82 on April 08, 2014, 01:03:33 PM
Wladimir van der Laan, to take his place.

http://www.coindesk.com/gavin-andresen-steps-bitcoins-lead-developer/


EDIT: Gavin has moved on to other things too.....


He got have the coins Mark stole and hs gone into pension now.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Steps Down as Bitcoin’s Lead Developer
Post by: jabo38 on April 08, 2014, 01:21:55 PM

He's probably going for Nxt.


It is so funny, but yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if he takes a long vacation and then teams up with a 2.0, the raw programmer in him would love the potential of NXT.  At the same time, think of all the money Ethereum would through at him to legitimize Ethereum.  One thing is for sure, he loves to code and will work with somebody and it won't be Litecoin or Doge.  It isn't like he will just take up golf.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Steps Down as Bitcoin’s Lead Developer
Post by: acoindr on April 08, 2014, 01:44:48 PM
He is essentially being "promoted" to Chief Scientist to work on Bitcoin's mid to long term challenges, namely transaction pruning.

Exactly. This move actually strengthens Bitcoin in my view. We need someone with Gavin's experience focused more on macro thinking than micro details.

My favorite analogy for the task of core developers pushing Bitcoin code changes is it's like working on a 747 going hundreds of miles per hour. Make too big a mistake and the whole thing could crash and burn (or at least scare the hell out of the passengers). When Bitcoin was small it really needed hands on production to allow things to take off. Satoshi, Gavin and the core devs did a great job of that. Aside from some minor bumps the project has been a great success, claiming a multi-billion dollar market cap with all signs pointing to major investment funds lining up.

The stakes are higher for real world Bitcoin implementation issues now. There is no turning back and there is more pressure to get things right the first time. A better title for this post might be: Gavin Andresen Switches Focus from Lead Developer.

At the same time, the community can be introduced more publicly to Wladimir van der Laan.

Think of it like a brilliant family doctor you've been going to for years. He solved your problems easily and you trusted him completely. One day you walk in to see a fresh new face. Your doctor explains this is a hand picked hot shot out of med school taking over while the doctor transitions away from direct patient activity, to spend time reviewing medical journals, finding cures for cancer, that sort of thing. He makes it clear he's still available should he personally be needed, and you might see him time to time. He leaves you and the new doctor with his phone number. This situation IMO is a win for everyone involved.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Steps Down as Bitcoin’s Lead Developer
Post by: S4VV4S on April 08, 2014, 01:57:27 PM
He is essentially being "promoted" to Chief Scientist to work on Bitcoin's mid to long term challenges, namely transaction pruning.

Exactly. This move actually strengthens Bitcoin in my view. We need someone with Gavin's experience focused more on macro thinking than micro details.

My favorite analogy for the task of core developers pushing Bitcoin code changes is it's like working on a 747 going hundreds of miles per hour. Make too big a mistake and the whole thing could crash and burn (or at least scare the hell out of the passengers). When Bitcoin was small it really needed hands on production to allow things to take off. Satoshi, Gavin and the core devs did a great job of that. Aside from some minor bumps the project has been a great success, claiming a multi-billion dollar market cap with all signs pointing to major investment funds lining up.

The stakes are higher for real world Bitcoin implementation issues now. There is no turning back and there is more pressure to get things right the first time. A better title for this post might be: Gavin Andresen Switches Focus from Lead Developer.

At the same time, the community can be introduced more publicly to Wladimir van der Laan.

Think of it like a brilliant family doctor you've been going to for years. He solved your problems easily and you trusted him completely. One day you walk in to see a fresh new face. Your doctor explains this is a hand picked hot shot out of med school taking over while the doctor transitions away from direct patient activity, to spend time reviewing medical journals, finding cures for cancer, that sort of thing. He makes it clear he's still available should he personally be needed, and you might seem him time to time. He leaves you and the new doctor with his phone number. This situation IMO is a win for everyone involved.

You are right.
Title changed ;)
OP modified.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Steps Down as Bitcoin’s Lead Developer
Post by: Joshuar on April 08, 2014, 02:43:14 PM

He's probably going for Nxt.


Nxt and it's horrible distribution? I think not.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Steps Down as Bitcoin’s Lead Developer
Post by: jbreher on April 08, 2014, 06:03:06 PM
He's probably going for Nxt.
And you say this because you personally spoke to Gavin, and he told you ... what, exactly?


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Switches Focus from Lead Developer
Post by: Kupsi on April 08, 2014, 06:11:52 PM
Quote
Gavin Andresen    Apr 07 2014

A few years ago I created a Google Scholar alert for “bitcoin.” And I was happy if I got one alert per month.

Today, I find it harder and harder to keep up with all of the great Computer Science or Economics papers related to bitcoin and other crypto-currencies; in just the last week Mr. Google told me about 30 new papers I might be interested in reading.

Over the last 18 months I’ve filled two roles: “lead developer” for Bitcoin Core (the reference implementation), and “Chief Scientist” for the Foundation. Thanks to the support of all of the members of the Foundation, I’m pleased to be able to focus more on protocol-level, cross-implementation issues and less on issues specific to the Bitcoin Core software.

Wladimir van der Laan has been paid to work on Bitcoin Core full-time for several months now– again, thanks to all of you Foundation members for stepping up and helping to fund core development– and has been doing a fantastic job. He has agreed to take over for me as the “Bitcoin Core Maintainer.”

Wladimir first got involved with the Bitcoin project by re-implementing, and vastly improving, the Bitcoin Core user interface. He lives and works in the Netherlands, and I’m looking forward to meeting him in person for the very first time at Bitcoin2014 in Amsterdam.

To be clear: I’m not going to disappear; I’ll still be writing and reviewing code and offering my opinions on technical matters and project priorities. I enjoy coding, and I think I’ll be most effective as Chief Scientist if I don’t lose touch with engineering reality and make the mistake of building huge, beautiful, theoretical castles that exist only as whitepapers.

I’ll just spend a little less time writing Bitcoin Core release announcements, and a little more time catching up on the latest bitcoin-wizards thinking on how best to implement transaction history pruning.

https://bitcoinfoundation.org/blog/?p=677


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Switches Focus from Lead Developer
Post by: jbrnt on April 08, 2014, 09:17:58 PM
So there is not much change in duties, just change in titles  :)

(There goes all the hearsay about Gavin leaving Bitcoin)


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Switches Focus from Lead Developer
Post by: countryfree on April 08, 2014, 09:53:24 PM
Is this a big deal?
It's quite normal in any organization to see people changing jobs or places. Go to any bank, and ask how many people were in the same position 3 years ago. Then a man like Gavin Andresen shall be more useful elsewhere in the bitcoin foundation... I wish him to be successful in his new position, just like bitcoin.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Switches Focus from Lead Developer
Post by: turio on April 08, 2014, 10:04:23 PM
shocking news, is someone loosing faith in bitcoin?


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Switches Focus from Lead Developer
Post by: franky1 on April 09, 2014, 12:47:54 AM
i knew gavin was going to change roles a couple years ago. he done a video interview (cant find it right now) where he said he wanted to devote a few years to this project and probably move on around 2015.

so remember guys. bitcoin is not a centralised program. its open source. meaning anyone can develop the protocol and if everyone likes it, they will use it. if they dont like it. they wont update to new versions or they would use other programs based around the old protocol.

the new bitcoin dev appears to be on the same thoughtpath as gavin and the rest of us, meaning that he seems to be in it for the community and not in it for the greed/fame.

but if any of you have the skills that gavin or wladimir have, feel free to contribute and ensure the protocol stays strong for the community, and maybe one day wladimir will give you the reins.

to also  note gavin will still be involved and oversee the protocol so that the temptation of people like Luke Jr to implement stupid changes, does not occur much/at all.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Switches Focus from Lead Developer
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on April 09, 2014, 12:53:44 AM
Please, don't tell me that Satoshi is a parrot.

http://media.coindesk.com/2014/04/Gavin-with-cockie-300x185.jpg


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Switches Focus from Lead Developer
Post by: Sindelar1938 on April 09, 2014, 04:35:20 AM
Gavin's the man, and now on to work on even more critical stuff for btc


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Steps Down as Bitcoin’s Lead Developer
Post by: meawleir21 on April 09, 2014, 04:50:14 AM
He lost faith in Bitcoin and realized it's broken beyond repair
lol why does bitcoin all of a sudden have this kind of opinions?! Maybe people wanting to buy as cheap as possible.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Steps Down as Bitcoin’s Lead Developer
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on April 09, 2014, 07:15:29 PM

He's probably going for Nxt.


or Litecoin.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Steps Down as Bitcoin’s Lead Developer
Post by: freedomno1 on April 09, 2014, 07:16:48 PM
The signal to noise ratio on this damn forum is asymptotically approaching zero.

He is essentially being "promoted" to Chief Scientist to work on Bitcoin's mid to long term challenges, namely transaction pruning.

Ah took 12 posts to break through the noise thanks for that


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Switches Focus from Lead Developer
Post by: RodeoX on April 09, 2014, 07:22:36 PM
Gotta love how people who have never even met Gavin know exactly why he did something they just found out about.  ::)


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Switches Focus from Lead Developer
Post by: franky1 on April 09, 2014, 07:32:28 PM
Gotta love how people who have never even met Gavin know exactly why he did something they just found out about.  ::)

i know, you gotta love it.
its almost like those people who by paying for a lifetime membership, suddenly makes them think they know better

 ;D

i've never met obama, or paid into his campaigns,, but i know what his agenda is.

money or connections is not the only way to the truth.. research is the third option


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Switches Focus from Lead Developer
Post by: IIOII on April 09, 2014, 07:38:40 PM
Please, don't tell me that Satoshi is a parrot.

http://media.coindesk.com/2014/04/Gavin-with-cockie-300x185.jpg

No, Gavin is in fact Trendon Shavers and Satoshi owns the zoo.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Switches Focus from Lead Developer
Post by: RodeoX on April 09, 2014, 08:08:43 PM
Gotta love how people who have never even met Gavin know exactly why he did something they just found out about.  ::)

i know, you gotta love it.
its almost like those people who by paying for a lifetime membership, suddenly makes them think they know better

 ;D

i've never met obama, or paid into his campaigns,, but i know what his agenda is.

money or connections is not the only way to the truth.. research is the third option

Also exchanging emails about our efforts, meeting him in person and befriending him.  I'll actually be at the foundation headquarters next week. But that aside, why can't we just take what Gavin says at face value? It always has to be a bold, uninformed statement that claims to know a secret agenda. It's like reading the tabloids that quote "a pal of Justin Bieber said...". You know that the source is a guy who once saw him at a club for like five minutes.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Switches Focus from Lead Developer
Post by: MarketNeutral on May 12, 2014, 06:45:04 PM
So, any updates on meneer Wladimir J. van der Laan?


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Steps Down as Bitcoin’s Lead Developer
Post by: ThePurplePlanet on May 12, 2014, 06:54:58 PM

He's probably going for Nxt.


The huge number of people not understanding the problems of PoS is unbelievable...


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Steps Down as Bitcoin’s Lead Developer
Post by: xDan on May 12, 2014, 07:23:40 PM

He's probably going for Nxt.


The huge number of people not understanding the problems of PoS is unbelievable...

Is there a good summary of these "problems" anywhere?


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Steps Down as Bitcoin’s Lead Developer
Post by: Lauda on May 12, 2014, 07:50:54 PM

He's probably going for Nxt.


or Litecoin.
You got to be joking. So tell me, when did you talk to Gavin about this?
Hopefully this new developer will work a lot on the source code. Gavin wasn't that active recently. Has anyone considered that he might have been forced to step down?


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen Steps Down as Bitcoin’s Lead Developer
Post by: RodeoX on May 13, 2014, 03:22:45 PM
The signal to noise ratio on this damn forum is asymptotically approaching zero.
...
Lol, true that. No one even tries anymore. They read the headline, invent a bullshit story, then make bold statements based on what they just made up. At least it's entertaining.  :D