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Economy => Gambling => Topic started by: zahra4571 on April 11, 2014, 07:52:14 AM



Title: How/where to verify PrimeDice rolls?
Post by: zahra4571 on April 11, 2014, 07:52:14 AM
Need some help here, I know rgbkey has his own site where you can verify rolls but no primedice there, why?

I'm not saying site is rigged or anything like this, all I know I lost 3.5BTC in some weird hard to happen case and I want to verify my bets and don't know how to do this.

I have saved bet IDs because that silly 24h wait for secret, if you don't save and play more all is gone.

Reason for my concern is that when I entered bet ID today into PD modal to get bet info bet amounts were all 0

All I want to know is what's going on? What's the point of checking bet info afterwards if it doesn't show correct info and hard to verify it

Just don't start with replies about me crying for loosing, it's not about this, have gambled a lot on JD and all I want is to verify my bets. 


Title: Re: How/where to verify PrimeDice rolls?
Post by: zahra4571 on April 11, 2014, 07:56:18 AM
can someone tell me roll for this

Server Seed: 1126b4a41397058284
Client Seed: 99999999999999-0258
Secret: f55ade8acc8fd462f4955f04e021d639aaf9c3178d98d599be83180d682ea206d21f5e34e2a7f52 78b574090c4631cc136f1a6260ce125b57f40c5b51769ecb3


Title: Re: How/where to verify PrimeDice rolls?
Post by: joksim299 on April 11, 2014, 08:20:00 AM
can someone tell me roll for this

Server Seed: 1126b4a41397058284
Client Seed: 99999999999999-0258
Secret: f55ade8acc8fd462f4955f04e021d639aaf9c3178d98d599be83180d682ea206d21f5e34e2a7f52 78b574090c4631cc136f1a6260ce125b57f40c5b51769ecb3

The roll from the provided hashes is 91.29.
I used this tool to verify PD bets http://www.bitcoincasinopro.com/provably-fair-verification/


Title: Re: How/where to verify PrimeDice rolls?
Post by: zahra4571 on April 11, 2014, 08:44:00 AM
can someone tell me roll for this

Server Seed: 1126b4a41397058284
Client Seed: 99999999999999-0258
Secret: f55ade8acc8fd462f4955f04e021d639aaf9c3178d98d599be83180d682ea206d21f5e34e2a7f52 78b574090c4631cc136f1a6260ce125b57f40c5b51769ecb3

The roll from the provided hashes is 91.29.
I used this tool to verify PD bets http://www.bitcoincasinopro.com/provably-fair-verification/

Thank you but this is not the roll I got from primedice

anyone else?


Title: Re: How/where to verify PrimeDice rolls?
Post by: Nobitcoin on April 11, 2014, 08:56:43 AM
Did you get a roll which didn't appear?


Title: Re: How/where to verify PrimeDice rolls?
Post by: zahra4571 on April 11, 2014, 09:19:54 AM
Did you get a roll which didn't appear?

I do get those very often, ones that don't appear and no record that they did happen at all

this time this was not the case, they are there just showing I have bet 0



Title: Re: How/where to verify PrimeDice rolls?
Post by: Stunna on April 11, 2014, 10:17:11 AM
Hi,

Our verification system is completely up to date and you shouldn't be having any issues when properly understood.

What bet ID's are you referring to?

If you wish for faster replies simply email support@primedice.com, otherwise I'll happily keep replying on this thread publicly, as I'm certain all rolls will match up and come out verified both on your end and ours.


Title: Re: How/where to verify PrimeDice rolls?
Post by: zahra4571 on April 11, 2014, 11:32:24 AM
Hi,

Our verification system is completely up to date and you shouldn't be having any issues when properly understood.

What bet ID's are you referring to?

If you wish for faster replies simply email support@primedice.com, otherwise I'll happily keep replying on this thread publicly, as I'm certain all rolls will match up and come out verified both on your end and ours.

Fastest replies are not through your support this is known fact, here on forum people help each other instantly. I did contact support in the past regarding withdrawals and never got answer fast, time zones are different I guess.

I did not have any issues with your site, all I wanted to know if where I can verify my bets when I loose money, that's all.

I have figured all out and bets do match, there were some mistakes in copy/paste so all good



Title: Re: How/where to verify PrimeDice rolls?
Post by: omahapoker on April 11, 2014, 11:52:27 AM
Hi,

Our verification system is completely up to date and you shouldn't be having any issues when properly understood.

What bet ID's are you referring to?

If you wish for faster replies simply email support@primedice.com, otherwise I'll happily keep replying on this thread publicly, as I'm certain all rolls will match up and come out verified both on your end and ours.


your back!!! now I can update Primedice stats, when did the site come back on?


Title: Re: How/where to verify PrimeDice rolls?
Post by: mem on April 11, 2014, 04:59:22 PM
as discussed with a casino I recently reviewed, its in a casino operators best interest to provide an offline verifier.

*tinfoil hat time* were I operating a casino and knew I had the only working implementation of my PRNG due to use of some clever tricks (ie mersene twister with diff primes and some binary shifts) I might try and take advantage of the occasional mark by forcing a loss and telling my verifier to report the numbers I choose for the player.

No obviously most sites have a verifier in javascript or they provide a script you can download to do the verification and players can do it themselves with ease.
Even better if its written in a popular scripting language and well documented (props to bitzino here).
But if you want to give players that warm fuzzy feeling you need to go above and beyond to reassure them, after all their confidence in your casino boosts your profits.


Title: Re: How/where to verify PrimeDice rolls?
Post by: zeeshanblc on April 12, 2014, 07:15:53 AM
as discussed with a casino I recently reviewed, its in a casino operators best interest to provide an offline verifier.

*tinfoil hat time* were I operating a casino and knew I had the only working implementation of my PRNG due to use of some clever tricks (ie mersene twister with diff primes and some binary shifts) I might try and take advantage of the occasional mark by forcing a loss and telling my verifier to report the numbers I choose for the player.

No obviously most sites have a verifier in javascript or they provide a script you can download to do the verification and players can do it themselves with ease.
Even better if its written in a popular scripting language and well documented (props to bitzino here).
But if you want to give players that warm fuzzy feeling you need to go above and beyond to reassure them, after all their confidence in your casino boosts your profits.

mem, good idea about casino operators giving offline verifier, this should be common practice as well that they should offer you to download all your bets in some file, they keep it all in their database, I don't get it why all of them give you access to just 50 lat bets, to me this looks like they are hiding something, all should be more transparent