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The Justice Gap
‘The Divide,’ by Matt Taibbi (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/13/books/review/the-divide-by-matt-taibbi.html?_r=0)

There is no truth in that statement and the quote itself is self-contradictory.

Violent crime has fallen by 44 percent, because a large part of the criminals are behind the bars. And racism / poverty arguments are just silly excuses to justify crimes such as robbery and murder.

This study and hundreds of others begs to differ, Taibbi and others are not throwing out bs numbers they can back it up with the evidence. If you disagree with the statement provide your own premise and evidence / studies for the contrary vision of the US justice system.

http://www.sentencingproject.org/doc/publications/rd_reducingracialdisparity.pdf


There is plenty of evidence to support the statement and simply dismissing it means you haven't been following the studies closely. In Canada the same can be shown for First Nations people as well.

I read that. There is no evidence to prove that black people who commit murder are in any way more harshly treated than the white people who commit murder. Everyone who commits a crime, whether they are black or white, goes to jail.


I'd buy that man a beer.

The game prevents you from voting anyone in that would change the system to help  the poor... 

What's that saying?  Every man has a price,  this includes woman of course.

Money pays the role, which gives influence

Just simple Because they are able to pay the police, prosecutors, judges, prison guards in order not to go to jail  ;D

Or may be because they are so rich, that they don't need to do any crime. They have money, so they don't have to rob. They have access to women, so they don't have to rape. I am not saying that everyone who is not having money would rob. But just saying that all robbers will be the ones who feel they don't have enough money with them.

Because money can buy everything.

Easy, the world is run by cabals around the world and if your on there side of the appartite wall you can do what the hell youbwant. This is how they get people to do there bidding, they offer them a better life with no restrictions. 90% of people sadly would jump at this false opertunity and that's why we are where we are today.

A few criminal gangs colluding together to control the population through msm, schooling, work(slavery) etc etc and you all play along thinking that everything going be OK when your all sheep walking to your graves!

Its a financial appartite wall now as people believe fiat currency is actually worth more than the paper its printed on! Remember the devil as many tricks to lore you away from the truth but deep down, were all spirits and have the truth within! You just need to realise it and you will truely see the hell on earth we have created and why it persists! Because of ignorant sheeple like yourself who can't think critically themselves without emotion blinding them!

'Give me the power of a nations money and I care not who makes the laws' Rothschild

And there's lies the answer to your question!

Actually rich people do go to jail when richer people want them to :)

just because they have a lot of money to cover up their self

LOL ~ That's true  :P

Even for a straight guy to turn gay

because they pay out their bail or bribe someone :D

So when OJ Simpson went to jail, who were the richer people who wanted that to happen?

Hmm... yes... I agree about that. But right now he is rotting in jail.

However, he has requested Obama to pardon him:

http://tellmenow.com/2014/04/now-oj-simpson-wants-obama-to-pardon-him

Its called money = power = corrupted lawyers/judges.

Well I would say - IMO -if you want to risk your freedom for any amount of  cash ... you are mad man :)
It is better to eat a bread and drink a water than go to the jail my friend. But I know many people do not mind to go there...
:)

rich people are the most greedy creature they want more money and power
ask the politician they know so many crimes :D

I guess they are a lot of crazies then. Some people go to jail because they cant afford health insurance for basic care, I know that sounds crazy but look it up.

Some others consider its rent free / and you earn money in jail as well.

This is exactly what is happening, everywhere.

rich usually get away with anything , murder , fraud , etc . Root cause lies in widespread corruption.

Root cause is the lucifarian experiment (again) but your point is still very true ;-)

Money talks everytime.


What's the lucifarian experiment?

The truest true in the world :D money makes the world go round.

Deep question, and one that many will not understand but the jist  of it is that were all consciousness with spirit at the core of our body. It grows into the seed of life, then the FLOWER OF LIFE and then onto fruit of life. All civilizations have had this at there core principles but today many people don't even understand what he flower of life is, nevermind understand its implications! Without understanding of these which incorporate the tree of life, platonic solids, metatrons cube amoungst many other things you will be a... Well, lost soul!

The lucifarian experiment comes from trying to seperate the body from the spirit which is depicted as the flower of life TWICE over separating from itself. This is what the human race keeps repeating and keeps failing at. And by this I mean humans have been on a 25,920 year cycle (12x 2,xxx years) for millions of years and we just entered aquarios (21 DEC 2012, you might of heard of it) which is the end but its also the beggining, the 13th key in the musical keys (new octave). Again, without proper in depth research your going think this is crazy or 'religious' which it is far from. I found this truth through numbers and science as never been religious but you can not deny the numbers!

If your interested in knowing the truth about this (which explains why a few do what they do to control) and why people don't want to listen to the hard truth yet release yourself and allow yourself to be truely free, innovative and creative you must first discover yourself!

Look up SPIRIT SCIENCE and I believe episode 6 (flower of life) & 10 (math of god) are 2 episodes that will best explain this but in will say without understanding the first episodes. This is not for sheeple or people with closed minds, and 90%+ will say crazy talk.

Well, the crazy talk comes from banksters, governments and religious but cases that don't understand themselves, nevermind others!

The 'elites' or cabals of the world know these things and hold onto the secrets of the fruit of life (1 more step after flower of life) but they don't understand it themselves as they lack compassion, empathy and love. The realm of the spirit does not allow there dark hearts to discover there next evolution and they use us to get there. They need us more than we need them and the more we follow these blind sociopathic (insert all bad words here) we will never learn the 4th(time) & 5th(spirit) dimension. When you sleep your body sleeps, your spirit does not ;-)

It took me 30 years to piece this together and tried understand this over a decade until one day, it just came together and made sense out of this seemingly random, chaotic world we have allowed to happen. When you see this, younsee everything is fake and people are like zombies reading scypts out of a movie without realising they are doing it. They've done a fine job of humanity for control and power but 21st DEC 2012 (who knows the exact 2012 as calanders have been manipulated many times) but in for one can the there's an awakening going on and people are going learn all the knowledge that as been lost over the past 1000s of years, the energy fields are more aligned now and this is the 3rd dawning of man, van goth drew the first one, dawning of consciousness.... You may have seen the picture of the man in a circle and square with arms and legs stretched. That's the 1st dawning and was when man became conscious, this 3rd is going blow peoples minds away!

Peace, and dont fal for there divide and conquer, religion is all the same yet they fight over invisible men in the sky. This world is run on compitition and greed! Well, times are changing and be ready for the storm! Its going be a ride these next few decades :-

Well, all that concrete absorbs carbon dioxide, slowing climate change...

Because the rich can pay their way out of the system and the poor cannot and get locked up
Simple as stone
Aka the cold hard prison cell for those who can't afford otherwise

The reality sucks for those who cant afford lawyers, etc.

Seen the corrupt system many times.

Because we tolerate injustice.   >:(

Because they have money,money brings power,the power that control the world,that brings fear in people,kill them,makes them blind,deaf ......changes their souls ............. :(

+1 a much more subtle and to the point post of what i said. But I was asked what the lucifan experiment was so did go into a little detail :-)

This world is an illusion and we are all made of energy. We truely have the power of 'gods' and we can create our own destiny. envirment changes your DNA which changes you, environment is key and that whybthey keep us locked down like they do! Poison in food, water etc etc isn't to kill you, is to make youndumb and not ask questions back! No critical thinking for you!

Wake up sheep please! They can not do this if you wake up and face the truth zombies!

Only if the price is right.

Your so right,but is hard do break this vicious circle ......but we are too many sheep's,blinded by daily problems and by fear !You and me and a few others ,we see the illusion but we do nothing about it.So tell me how to wake-up about 7 billion sheeps?

I hear that one brother but things like the internet have brought you and me to speak, its connected many people who thought they were mad, crazy or insane when its them around them that are insane. Insanity is defined by doing it he same thing again and again to only acheive thebsame results expecting something different! By this most people are clinically insane today! The controlling few cabals around the world control everything with very little people on there side! They do this through control of centralised points (money, food, schooling, medicine, media etc etc) and its worked well for them but they got sloppy over the generations past. There holding onto what little grasp they have left and are getting/doing desperate things to start ww3. Look at john Kerry beggining for a war in Syria! What a freak show it all is.

The problem they have now is we have crossed that saturation point where more people are questioning things because no matter if you middle class or well off, you are feeling the pinch of your dictators! The lies to continue wars around the world to drag us further and further down to the point where they want us beg them for there help so they have complete control over us. We are in the orwellian nightmare already with boarders been your farms.

Im a true believer in that 21st december 2012 (whenever it was/is due to calanders been messed with) is where the energies of this universe are more aligned for our 3rd awakening where all of us will consciously rise to the next plateau. All of us with 4th dimensional (time) thinking. All this means is astral projection and being able explore things beyond the 3d realm we like to think is all that there is. I feel/sense this started a few years back and feelnit getting stronger.

I do not have the answer to your question of how/when/why etc but I promise these sociopaths are at the end of their days. We just need to avoid the full out ww3 they plan. Peaceful resistance is the way.

Mycyllium can fix radiation, oil spills and replenish the soils and land around the world so no matter what we do, the planet and everything else goes on without us! We have this wonderful garden to live on and look what we do!

P.S, I'm not religious, I came to this awakening through numbers and science from research on Egyptians and the pyramids and coral castle and all the worlds ancient sites. How they all demonstrate finnabacci sequence and Phi/golden ratio. The quad prime numbers and square route of phi been 1.242 and the frequency of this universe (7.23cm) which can be found in EVERYTHING!

This linked the masionic art to the flower of life which lead me to look into that even deeper. Spirit science is an excellent reference to all of this kind of thing but you have to be open minded and this stuff will make your life so much better. Masons were hooked on the flower of life and its ability to manipulate this illusional world we perceive and this basically where thenlucifarian experiment comes from. Separating body and soul which is just disasteriius. Transhumanism (eugenicists) like bill gates and Google are on the leading edge of life his sick twisted experiment.

I too am trying to find a way but I personally think that time itself will right things this time around. The internet, bit torrent and decentralised mesh systems will beat the 19th century thinking of these oligarchies and they already look like an idiotic puppet show to most people, even the ones that don't even know why things are the way they are, they are awakening still.

Its just time, do you you can for yourself and community and I expect 90-95% rejection for most of this, hell, for 30 years I would have said 'crazy person' but its just life itself that's shows you the way, when your ready ;-)

Peace dude, its always nice to see that efforts are not completely lost on most :-)

P.S spelling/English is bad and on mobile, that's why I have errors and misspelling. Always found language a crude way of communication. Its cumbersum and restricting. I believe it be the language of the 'devil' tbh. I think we have been manipulated for at least 600 years or more to even get close to the cognitive disadence we have today.

No.

Rich people make their crime legal.

If someone is doing a legal thing, how can we term that as a crime? If anyone is having complaints against it, then the government should change the constitution and make such things illegal.

That's the point : when rich people want to commit crime like fraud. They make it legal.
The people that benefit from legal fraud and corruption won't change the system, why would they do that ?
Poor people are keep in ignorance and poverty so they will never understand the situation, therefore won't take action.

+1, but people think 'what can I do'. Sad pefetic excuses for human beings!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Madoff

Well...well... It is the duty of the law enforcement officials to make sure that the prevailing laws are applicable to all. If there are any loopholes, then it is the duty of the politicians to eliminate it. So in a sense, eliminate the corruption and you can have the rich going to jail.

Politicians cannot access to power without money.
Politics have no power, how can you have power when you are in dept of more than 17,548,000,000,000 (http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/) ??
How has the power ? The overly-in-dept-nation or the bank ?



$18 billion ? It's nothing. This guy is poor.

What about the Federal Reserve Bank credit ? What about the banks credit ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDe5kUUyT0

Don't forget Rothschild's! They own 90% of everything through there medling. Kate Middleton's grandmother was goldsmith, a Rothschild decendant who married William Windsor so not so much a rags to riches storey as the msm would like you to believe but more 2 controlling family blood lines joining. Is George Windsor the true anti Christ? Haha

Same old story, the rich (supposedly) don't give a fuck about the poor and the poor want to take what the rich have. We've been playing this game since the cromags were at the neaderthals' throats people...

Hmm... if Bitcoin ever gets mainstream, that will be a serious blow for all the rich people. Because the real value of the fiat currency will be reduced, and that of the crypto-currency will be increased. We might witness a wealth re-distribution, although on a limited scale.

not really, a lot of wealthy persons have plenty of wealth in assets, gold,silver etc. instead of in FIAT

besides, if bitcoin becomes mainstream plenty of new millionaires will be generated :D

Yeah seriously, not too many rich people with a brain horde "cash," either in person or in bank accounts. They invest it in stock, properties, land, precious metals, royalties, even sports teams and horses... none of which would be affected by Bitcoin replacing fiat (which will not happen anyways.)

i think property investment is the easy way to earn good money :)

the little man would be more damaged here then the big man, but that's why our mission is to recruit more people to bitcoin to save them from effects of the FIAT fail :D

You should ask Martha Stewart, Bernie Madoff, or any number of rich people who have gone to jail, are in jail, or will soon be in jail, about that. Last time I checked "I'm rich" wasn't a valid defense. Maybe the real question you meant to ask was why do rich people go to jail less often than poor people? Well, maybe because rich people are less likely to commit the acts that most commonly land a person in jail.

For the record I'm currently middle class. Not rich or poor.

Maybe they ripped off or pissed off richer people?

lol probably true. It's not just how much money you own, but who you know too.

Good Question.  I'd say because the system is rigged so they can buy their way out of trouble.  This is why they have such obscene amounts of wreath in this rigged economy.

Being middle class and a target for the elite you should be very worried but you won't see it coming.... Being middle class and all that!

If your not in the 0.0001% you have everything to be worried about!

Peace to you too,and thank  you for sharing it with us!Peace and love this are the most important things that we need this days !

No, I don't have anything to worry about. Neither should any of you if you are smart, ambitious, and driven. If you are lazy and just want to bitch about people that have more than you, you may have some reason to worry.

Oh the nievity and blind sightedness is strong with you! You keep believing that american dream you smuck! The rest of the world will overtake the so called developed countries by 2025. Just look at the brick nations and Asia and Russia allegiances. The only lonely cats are the USA fat cats and eussr puppets! Your so called civilised world is at an end and your to blind to see it!

Keep watching your fox and CNN you douche bag lol. There's just no hope for some!

It makes it especially hard to take someone seriously when they can't even spell. An occasional type-o is forgivable but come on dude, "nievity" ? "smuck" ? If you want to call me a schmuck at least spell it right. Do you even know what a schmuck is?

And brick? Do you know what BRIC is? It's Brazil Russia India China so what's the K you tacked on for? Kazakhstan?

And even if the nations that hold power were to change or reverse, why does that mean you or I or anyone else will necessarily suffer some great loss? There are plenty of people living perfectly happy, productive lives in countries that aren't "#1."

If you have money and can buy anything, then you can certainly buy your way out of jail

Do you know I'm using a mobile and can not be added go through what I write for your bennifit! a bitterly wing can cause an hurricane around the otherside of the world. This saying is very true in its meaning and you obviously dont see the incricy of the world because you been in the upper part of the top 1 billion, 6.5 billion dont even have access to a bank acount and as been abused by our goverments and corperations and dont have the luxeries youbtake for granted. Sorry for bad spelling but i care not, english is the langage of the devil. Its crude and cumbersim.

We allowed our goverments do this for 'security' while they tear your right away from you! I can go on bit until youbsee the true face of your so called leaders your going be wearing fogged up goggles and not see things for what they are.

Peace


+1 but fiat currency isn't worth anything, its only because OTHERS think it does! If we all started using btc tomorrow for example, these elites would be screwed! Your fear blinds you, realise who/what you are and you will not fear anything ;-)

Peace

People that run the Prison system need money to stay alive and keep their families.

The rich at worst can bribe them,However,the process of avoiding jail starts long before it even reaches to the sentencing level.

Somehow there is an unwritten rule that the rich are not meant to be in jail and so every decision goes in their favor believing that they ought to be out there spending their time on productive stuff,with this thinking the disruptive and unproductive poor are better off in Jail.

Simple truth, money can buy almost everything in this world. You can buy freedom as well. Bribe people, bend them, cover tracks, made people disappear. Everything.

You do have to have the right connections as well and respect higher forces. Mikhail Khodorkovsky is very rich but he spent a decade in prison because he went up against Putin.

Putin is richer. There will be always bigger dog. Nobody knows for sure, but Putin's fortune is about 50-80 billion of USD.

Nothing on Rothschild's, no one as! But fiat currency is only worth anything because the public thinks it is.....

Wealth is measured in many ways, how much fiat currency you own is not one of them! Its just that the average Joe doesn't understand money and believe what they hear over and over. Its easy when you control all the media to get your message across, especially with music on 10-20 year olds! This can shape a persons whole perspection of what is for the rest of here life. And you wonder why MTV was pushed hard in the 90s....

Its all a sick social experiment to control us and you don't even see it! Luckily were not all sheep and if we can hold off world war 3 a little longer, I'm sure enough people will see the puppets for them true selves! And boy, will they be hanging from the rafters!

cause rich people cover other rich people, plus connections

. This isnmy experience I had in India, luckily I knew the right people who could help me out. Corruption is epidemic worldwide and its funny listening to people from EU,USA etc think they live in a 'free world' when there the most oppressed. Yes they can roam and laze about but this is there downfall. There so called 'comfort' will be there end.

No one lives in a free world...unless your a member of  amazon tribes.....or a Tibetan monk

i just saw an article how the amazon tribes are suffering due to externnal contact with us! And im sure they got under the tibetan monks long ago. They have TV's and stuff now lol. So sorry dude, It really is NOWHERE TO RUN!

Talking about this:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2599553/Mysterious-TB-like-illness-threatens-wipe-isolated-South-American-tribe-forced-forest-homes.html

Martha Stewart went for obstruction of justice in an effort to avoid the loss of a sum of money nearly meaningless in the grand scheme (45k). So all is right.

Not saying she didn't do anything wrong, but if you had to chose...

The story is actually much worse. They're discussing his guilty plea in 2008 for raping his daughter because his ex-wife has initiated litigation against him for also molesting his toddler son around the same time.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...child/6568787/

Thats it ;)


He then made more money off selling the house for millions so your figures are a little out. The point about all this is how Cameron is saying he wants her to stay ON THE CABINET! Bohemian grove buddies if you ask me!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQMofpRU4uI

Says it all!


Im trying work out what your talking about :/

Links to no article :/

There were forcibly taken out of forest by a Christian missionary organization named the New Tribes Mission.

http://www.eco-action.org/mission/ntm.html



http://www.nytimes.com/1987/04/01/world/asuncion-journal-in-paraguay-s-jungle-no-letup-in-battle-for-souls.html

Excellent information there. It just baffles me that 90% of people dont ask questions about... well, EVERYTHING! Obviously you do but why are so many so disconnected and blind. It's all rather sad.

As for the powers that be, I find this tune very fitting!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID8oBR82nnw

Well... in this case, the incident happened in an extremely remote location. May be that is the reason. But even when such incidents are widely publicized, sometimes they are all hushed up.

Anything associated with the fruit of life (Metatrons Cube) is covered up. You don't even see it depicted in the masonic temples the freak shows use for there rituals, Just the flower of life secrets are on their walls. The fruit of life is reserved for the highest of high but these sick mofos have no empathy, compassion or love so they can't access the power that comes with understanding the fruit of life.

Now this might sound off subject, But its relivent to why these people do what they do and try control everything through privatization and centralization. Its these tribes that may be the ones that save humanity in the end, And they don't want that!

The USPS is surprisingly well run and competent.

Just check the ongoing trial of Oscar Pistorius for the death of Reeva Steenkamp. I have a strong feeling that this murder trial will also end up something like the OJ Simpson trial. 

Are you serious, I'm from UK and have had aweful experience with USPS. Last parcel to IL got lost, etymotics er4p earphones to be precise! Took months claim insurance back of that so no headphones that would work with my DAC, really annoying being an audiophile.

If you have to go through Chicago good luck to you, its like the behmuda triangle that place!

Is USPS not privately owned like the royal mail over here is? Everything is in the UK now infact. Privatised and centralised. Sick

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/woman-sues-ex-husband-du-pont-heir-dodged-prison-raping-3-year-old-daughter-article-1.1740180

I came across this story not to long ago but didn't look into it and this thread made me dig it out.  Still haven't read up on it yet but I got a good idea from a YT clip I just viewed, basically he's scum of the earth but has money so it is ok.. 

Unforetunitly stories like this are on a daily basis these days! Schools are the new police war grounds, just so your kids know who's in charge!

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140411/16314926883/bullied-student-records-bullies-gets-threatened-with-felony-charges-violating-wiretapping-law.shtml

Sick storey you linked though but our rulers sacrifice children and rape them as rituals. Whybare you surprised? BBC in the UK harbours these people. All corporations older than 50 years old you can guarantee they are involved too.

Again, nothing new, this as been going on for centuries now, 1778 in believe the exact date the current ruling cabal took its reigns

Oh no I'm not surprised trust me I'm very aware of the horrors being commuted on a daily basis.  I just wanted to add my thoughts on the matter.   Thanks for link friend.  Hey have we chatted before on coinchat perhaps?

Edit:  That is some story you came across there.  I guess the principals don't want a trend of students recording bad actions in the school so they make an example of this poor kid.  I remember when I was a senior they would lock the exit of the gym so kids could sneak out even though it was illegal to lock a fire exit they did it anyway.  Seems like things have gotten crazier sense then and I'm not shocked on bit.   

I don't believe we have, I used be around under name m3sSh3aD 2011/2012 but got banned because I called josh/inaba from bfl a cockroach and the sociopath he is. That's what you get for helping people and warning them. I just usually come back hassle josh now and then but of late I'm been trying spread some words hoping it might click with the odd 1 or 2 people. Eventually ha ha.

Check out the latest max keiser, actually really REALLY on subject of this topic and called bliss ignorance! First 15 min especially

http://youtu.be/c5NAUlTKmVo

2nd part is about crypto too so I reccomend this one for all, so on the ball this episode its Scarry how bang on it is!

Sad to hear that. BFL stole at least a hundred million USD from its users who fell, for its trap. I don't know how much they got from mining with the customers' mining rigs, but I believe that amount was much higher than a hundred million USD. Feeling sad.... still they are cheating people and every day new users are getting conned by them.

yea my mistake you just reminded me of that other person.  Thanks for the link and your efforts to warn other about BFL before they were known as scammers.

Do actually appreciate that thanks. Its rare around here but in understand a lot of what in say sounds crazy to most. But I do believe all know that something's wrong with everything in this world, they just not sure what and what they can do about it. There often heavily demotivated, huge cognitive disadence and/or simply just don't care anymore.

Decentralisation is needed so bad so we can start moving forwards away from the sociopaths of today. Leave them sitting on there paper money and assign this last 2 centuries to the history books and let itnbe a lesson to all in the future.

 Believe there biggest mistake was allowing the general public the internet. This as allowed us to come together like never before

Peace