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Title: Ways to swim in bitcoin
Post by: BTConomist on January 09, 2012, 06:25:26 PM
Is it technologically possible to swim in BTC?


Title: Re: Ways to swim in bitcoin
Post by: pazor on January 09, 2012, 06:26:01 PM
virtual swimming  ;D


Title: Re: Ways to swim in bitcoin
Post by: InstaGx on January 09, 2012, 06:38:53 PM
Maybe with one of those fancy transaction scripts I keep hearing about.


Title: Re: Ways to swim in bitcoin
Post by: SgtSpike on January 09, 2012, 06:48:51 PM
Sure.  Just send a Satoshi each to millions of private keys, then start printing the private keys, and eventually you'll have enough printouts to swim in.


Title: Re: Ways to swim in bitcoin
Post by: jim618 on January 09, 2012, 06:54:46 PM
If you define 'swimming' as controlled motion through a fluid then there would be two main aspects to bitcoin swimming:

1) Buoyancy control i.e making sure you did not sink (nor rise the surface too quickly - you do not want to suffer the excruciatingly painful bitcoin bends)
2) Propulsion - applying force to the fluid that you are immersed in so as to move in a controlled manner.

Clearly the fluid we are immersed in is bitcoin.   I presume it is some sort of phase space of dimensionality equal to the address space.

For buoyancy control I suggest experimenting with sending and receiving small amounts to a fixed address (which we will henceforth label the 'swimmer').   I hypothesize that a transaction with a large number of inputs will 'weigh the swimmer down' i.e decrease buoyancy and that a send with lots of outputs will raise the swimmer up as the swimmer's balance is decreased.

Of course 'up' and 'down' in bitcoin address space may be difficult to ascertain - perhaps it is related to some sort of eigenvector of some important characteristic of the space, as yet unknown.   A bitcoin analogue for 'gravity' if you like.   Clearly the fundamental forces in bitcoin space need detailed research.

As to propulsion - we need to find the equivalent of momentum transfer.   Clearly the size of a transaction relates to this.  A large transaction clearly would give more oomph than a single Satoshi.  Care must also be taken to manage the change of the transaction to ensure the bitcoin backwash does not nullify any initial impulse.

You also have to take into account Brownian Satoshi motion caused by teeny weeny transactions that occur 'near' to you in Bitcoin space which basically bobble you about.

Synchronised bitcoin swimming I postulate would involve a flurry of mutual transactions carefully crafted to combine just the right amount of exogenous inputs and outputs of the right size and quantity, combined with mutual spends between the swimmers so that the correct flocking behaviour is observed.

It sounds so complicated to do deftly that synchronised bitcoin swimming really should be an Olympic sport.


Title: Re: Ways to swim in bitcoin
Post by: ineededausername on January 09, 2012, 11:00:31 PM
OP_SWIM  ;)


Title: Re: Ways to swim in bitcoin
Post by: BadBitcoin (James Sutton) on June 06, 2013, 05:10:31 PM
If you define 'swimming' as controlled motion through a fluid then there would be two main aspects to bitcoin swimming:

1) Buoyancy control i.e making sure you did not sink (nor rise the surface too quickly - you do not want to suffer the excruciatingly painful bitcoin bends)
2) Propulsion - applying force to the fluid that you are immersed in so as to move in a controlled manner.

Clearly the fluid we are immersed in is bitcoin.   I presume it is some sort of phase space of dimensionality equal to the address space.

For buoyancy control I suggest experimenting with sending and receiving small amounts to a fixed address (which we will henceforth label the 'swimmer').   I hypothesize that a transaction with a large number of inputs will 'weigh the swimmer down' i.e decrease buoyancy and that a send with lots of outputs will raise the swimmer up as the swimmer's balance is decreased.

Of course 'up' and 'down' in bitcoin address space may be difficult to ascertain - perhaps it is related to some sort of eigenvector of some important characteristic of the space, as yet unknown.   A bitcoin analogue for 'gravity' if you like.   Clearly the fundamental forces in bitcoin space need detailed research.

As to propulsion - we need to find the equivalent of momentum transfer.   Clearly the size of a transaction relates to this.  A large transaction clearly would give more oomph than a single Satoshi.  Care must also be taken to manage the change of the transaction to ensure the bitcoin backwash does not nullify any initial impulse.

You also have to take into account Brownian Satoshi motion caused by teeny weeny transactions that occur 'near' to you in Bitcoin space which basically bobble you about.

Synchronised bitcoin swimming I postulate would involve a flurry of mutual transactions carefully crafted to combine just the right amount of exogenous inputs and outputs of the right size and quantity, combined with mutual spends between the swimmers so that the correct flocking behaviour is observed.

It sounds so complicated to do deftly that synchronised bitcoin swimming really should be an Olympic sport.


that is one of the most amazing posts I've ever read on this forum, you made me laugh out loud and my co-workers wondered what was funny. 10/10


Title: Re: Ways to swim in bitcoin
Post by: Elwar on June 06, 2013, 05:14:29 PM
Get a bunch of Cascius coins in a large tower. Create a diving board and dive in.


Title: Re: Ways to swim in bitcoin
Post by: threeip on June 06, 2013, 05:16:09 PM
Get a bunch of Cascius coins in a large tower. Create a diving board and dive in.

https://i.imgur.com/eDpJsyh.jpg


Title: Re: Ways to swim in bitcoin
Post by: spiccioli on June 06, 2013, 06:25:56 PM

As to propulsion - we need to find the equivalent of momentum transfer.   Clearly the size of a transaction relates to this.  A large transaction clearly would give more oomph than a single Satoshi.  Care must also be taken to manage the change of the transaction to ensure the bitcoin backwash does not nullify any initial impulse.


Change, jim618, is what gives you that momentum transfer since it goes backwards and so it propels the amount transferred.

If you send one satoshi from an address that contains ten bitcoins it will go out with a lower force than a similar satoshi sent from an address that contains ten thousand bitcoins :)

spiccioli



Title: Re: Ways to swim in bitcoin
Post by: edd on June 07, 2013, 12:52:27 AM
Sure.  Just send a Satoshi each to millions of private keys, then start printing the private keys, and eventually you'll have enough printouts to swim in.

Alternatively, one could print out the blockchain and go swimming in Bitcoin vs. swimming in bitcoins. Cheaper, too.


Title: Re: Ways to swim in bitcoin
Post by: TippingPoint on June 07, 2013, 02:01:54 AM
It is more frequently referred to as rolling in dough.


Title: Re: Ways to swim in bitcoin
Post by: No 1 on June 07, 2013, 02:05:37 AM
anything is possible bud :)


Title: Re: Ways to swim in bitcoin
Post by: datafish on June 07, 2013, 03:20:42 AM
I swim in bitcoins every day!


Title: Re: Ways to swim in bitcoin
Post by: Anon136 on June 07, 2013, 03:23:20 AM
idk about you guys but this is precisely the reason why i dont own any bitcoins. i chose to go with silver instead because i can swim in it.


Title: Re: Ways to swim in bitcoin
Post by: freedomno1 on June 07, 2013, 03:43:38 AM
Time to build a device so we can enter the internet and swim in our bitcoin wealth  ;D

Then people will complain get off my blockchain xd


Title: Re: Ways to swim in bitcoin
Post by: ravenx13 on June 07, 2013, 07:01:12 AM
Get a bunch of Cascius coins in a large tower. Create a diving board and dive in.

https://i.imgur.com/eDpJsyh.jpg
+1   ;D


Title: Re: Ways to swim in bitcoin
Post by: Abdussamad on June 07, 2013, 07:21:12 AM
It should be fairly simple to swim in bitcoin. Like everything digital it is just a series of 1s and 0s.

So what you do is feed the blockchain to a computer that controls a water pipe that empties into a swimming pool. The computer releases some water every time it encounters a 1 and air every time it sees a 0. Eventually you'd get a pool full of bubbling bitcoins!


Title: Re: Ways to swim in bitcoin
Post by: arklan on June 07, 2013, 11:07:25 AM
It should be fairly simple to swim in bitcoin. Like everything digital it is just a series of 1s and 0s.

So what you do is feed the blockchain to a computer that controls a water pipe that empties into a swimming pool. The computer releases some water every time it encounters a 1 and air every time it sees a 0. Eventually you'd get a pool full of bubbling bitcoins!

hot tub!


Title: Re: Ways to swim in bitcoin
Post by: patricktim on June 07, 2013, 01:35:11 PM
Is it technologically possible to swim in BTC?

physical swimming in btc is not possible.