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Title: All pro-tax arguments equate to threats of violence
Post by: cryptoanarchist on April 17, 2014, 12:14:42 AM
As I read the tax day arguments between anarchists and statists, its impossible to find one that doesn't have at least one statist poster using the threat of jail time as a reason to pay taxes.

It's funny how in America we grow up in public schools thinking that we're the greatest country because we're "free" and that we have a superior morality.

Come to find out we're just slaves. The State's argument is "Pay up or get thrown in a cage", and most people respond to the threat with obedience.

We haven't progressed from the monarchies of the dark ages in terms of how things are run, we just changed the names and costumes.


Title: Re: All pro-tax arguments equate to threats of violence
Post by: PrintMule on April 17, 2014, 12:17:53 AM
I'm with you on a slave thing. We all are slaves from birth to death.
Governments do not serve their people, it's the other way around.

But the threat of jail is a good reason to pay taxes, why don't you agree? :)


Title: Re: All pro-tax arguments equate to threats of violence
Post by: TECSHARE on April 20, 2014, 12:49:05 PM
Well, apart from the fact that taxes are (broadly, with exceptions and inefficiencies) used for the public good, as opposed to being used for some fucker's palace.
What do you call it then when multibillion dollar organizations that destroy our lands, pollute our waters, and use our public services, just to turn around and pay zero taxes while cutting jobs and still paying out multimillion dollar bonuses to executives. Sounds like it is being used for some fucker's palace to me.


Title: Re: All pro-tax arguments equate to threats of violence
Post by: TrailingComet on April 20, 2014, 01:00:08 PM
That's exactly what fiat symbolises ;)


Title: Re: All pro-tax arguments equate to threats of violence
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 20, 2014, 01:15:19 PM
How many nations are there in the world where the income tax is 0%? I know most of the Gulf states and some of the island nations in the Caribbean are so, but are there anymore from around the globe?


Title: Re: All pro-tax arguments equate to threats of violence
Post by: Lethn on April 20, 2014, 01:42:55 PM
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Well, apart from the fact that taxes are (broadly, with exceptions and inefficiencies) used for the public good, as opposed to being used for some fucker's palace.

This comment is so naive it actually made me laugh.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/470035/Mohammed-Suleman-Khan-used-2-5million-to-build-home-in-Pakistan-as-big-as-the-Queen-s

I give you some fucker who used taxpayer money to build a palace.


Title: Re: All pro-tax arguments equate to threats of violence
Post by: bitsmichel on April 20, 2014, 03:25:41 PM
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Come to find out we're just slaves. The State's argument is "Pay up or get thrown in a cage", and most people respond to the threat with obedience.

yes, the government is running a great business. Pay or be in jail  ;D


Title: Re: All pro-tax arguments equate to threats of violence
Post by: practicaldreamer on April 20, 2014, 05:13:06 PM
Well, apart from the fact that taxes are (broadly, with exceptions and inefficiencies) used for the public good, as opposed to being used for some fucker's palace.
What do you call it then when multibillion dollar organizations that destroy our lands, pollute our waters, and use our public services, just to turn around and pay zero taxes while cutting jobs and still paying out multimillion dollar bonuses to executives. Sounds like it is being used for some fucker's palace to me.

Hey, no-one is more fucked off than me that the banks are being propped up by taxpayers money - but that isn't the fault of (the idea of) taxes, per se, surely ?
  I think your/our quarrel is with multinational (financial ?) capitalist conglomerates. And not "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" and taxation.

  


Title: Re: All pro-tax arguments equate to threats of violence
Post by: TECSHARE on April 20, 2014, 09:53:23 PM
Well, apart from the fact that taxes are (broadly, with exceptions and inefficiencies) used for the public good, as opposed to being used for some fucker's palace.
What do you call it then when multibillion dollar organizations that destroy our lands, pollute our waters, and use our public services, just to turn around and pay zero taxes while cutting jobs and still paying out multimillion dollar bonuses to executives. Sounds like it is being used for some fucker's palace to me.

Hey, no-one is more fucked off than me that the banks are being propped up by taxpayers money - but that isn't the fault of (the idea of) taxes, per se, surely ?
  I think your/our quarrel is with multinational (financial ?) capitalist conglomerates. And not "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" and taxation.

  
So you don't believe the IRS has any complicity in allowing this situation? If they were true to their stated intent they should be very vigorously pursuing these trillions of dollars in taxes they could be getting from corporations each year.