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Title: Warren Buffett seems to be perfectly aware of what technology brings
Post by: bitebits on April 19, 2014, 03:40:54 PM
After watching this, I realized Buffett seen it all (closely!) at least once already (think it is taped in 1999). To be honest, I don't believe he lets this bitcoin opportunity slip, based on his previous experiences.

"Time and distance are not limiting factors anymore"
"Costs of getting your information around the world is going to be close to zero"
"IT is changing the world in a very big way"
"Technology is turning the world upside down"

etc..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=IvveZr0D_9Y#t=1200 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=IvveZr0D_9Y#t=1200)


Title: Re: Warren Buffett seems to be perfectly aware of what technology brings
Post by: iluvpie60 on April 19, 2014, 04:39:20 PM
After watching this, I realized Buffett seen it all (closely!) at least once already (think it is taped in 1999). To be honest, I don't believe he lets this bitcoin opportunity slip, based on his previous experiences.

"Time and distance are not limiting factors anymore"
"Costs of getting your information around the world is going to be close to zero"
"IT is changing the world in a very big way"
"Technology is turning the world upside down"

etc..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=IvveZr0D_9Y#t=1200 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=IvveZr0D_9Y#t=1200)

So you are saying you want a billionaire to completely buy out most of the BTC from the exchanges and keep it for himself?


Title: Re: Warren Buffett seems to be perfectly aware of what technology brings
Post by: bitebits on April 19, 2014, 04:52:07 PM
I am referring to the below interview, which would make me think he is not involved. Now I know his general statement is that he does not invest in things he doesn't understand. The above video makes me however believe that he perfectly understands the potential of digital gold. Just wanted to share it.

Buffett blasts bitcoin as 'mirage': 'Stay away!'
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/03/26/warren-buffett-says-bitcoin-is-a-mirage-why-marc-andreessen-thinks-hes-wrong/


Title: Re: Warren Buffett seems to be perfectly aware of what technology brings
Post by: shawshankinmate37927 on April 19, 2014, 05:09:08 PM
After watching this, I realized Buffett seen it all (closely!) at least once already (think it is taped in 1999). To be honest, I don't believe he lets this bitcoin opportunity slip, based on his previous experiences.

Many people who have benefited from the current system and have accumulated a lot of fiat wealth don't see Bitcoin as an opportunity, but as a threat.


Title: Re: Warren Buffett seems to be perfectly aware of what technology brings
Post by: RUEHL on April 19, 2014, 05:15:44 PM
Despite his possible awareness of tech, he missed out on the .COM boom & advised staying away and threw the baby out with the bathwater.  Left a lot of money on the table on good .COM companies.  The only tech company for which he has major holdings is IBM, which he got into before .COM.

Warren Buffet's primary investments are in the banking sector and he stands to lose from the proliferation of Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Warren Buffett seems to be perfectly aware of what technology brings
Post by: xingqiaoyin on April 19, 2014, 06:04:27 PM
I'd like to see how WB rebutted Legg Maison's counter-statement.

WB said bitcoin is akin to super fast check, however it has no intrinsic value because its value is coupled to the USD and hence purely a speculative tool.

LM said WB got it right that bitcoin is a super fast check, but he failed to realize bitcoin is limited to 21,000,000 if there's only 21,000,000 check to exist in the world then check would be highly valuable.



Title: Re: Warren Buffett seems to be perfectly aware of what technology brings
Post by: Beliathon on April 19, 2014, 06:25:58 PM
After watching this, I realized Buffett seen it all (closely!) at least once already (think it is taped in 1999). To be honest, I don't believe he lets this bitcoin opportunity slip, based on his previous experiences.

Many people who have benefited from the current system and have accumulated a lot of fiat wealth don't see Bitcoin as an opportunity, but as a threat.
Wisdom found above, and below.

http://www.medicinemancreations.com/images/Wisdom.gif

Satoshi was courageous, and right now Buffet is being unwise.

bitcoin is limited to 21,000,000 if there's only 21,000,000 check to exist in the world then check would be highly valuable.
This form of money is also valuable because there's no central authority figure sitting at the presses, printing more for himself and his friends, and less for everybody else.


Title: Re: Warren Buffett seems to be perfectly aware of what technology brings
Post by: Honeypot on April 20, 2014, 02:27:24 AM
Those of you who sold when warren buffet 'seemed' to say negative things about bitcoin - you just don't have the foresight and wisdom of the Wizard of Omaha.

You got Warren'd.



Title: Re: Warren Buffett seems to be perfectly aware of what technology brings
Post by: Dr.Zaius on April 20, 2014, 02:59:01 AM
The Buffet Bubble.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-HLlzBwyqobk/T6gWQX6vUkI/AAAAAAAAA3g/EI5tt-t4vcA/s1600/brkgold.png

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2012/02/warrensbubble.jpg


The problem with Warren Buffet's advice is it completely ignores the harsh realities of taxes and inflation. Once taxes and inflation are factored into the Sp500, returns plunge to roughly 1.5% annually. The government will end up with the majority of your stock gains, as it taxes both corporate income and dividend. "Productive" investments require a friendly environment to properly deliver returns.

One of the benefits of crypto, it allows building systems where those 2 dead weights do not apply.

A gold bar sitting in your basement doing nothing still buys the same value of US stocks as it did almost 70 years ago. This also makes sense, as I don't think anyone believes the US industrial base is 1000x bigger. Where have all the gains gone? Into government coffers via taxation and inflation.

http://pricedingold.com/charts/SP500-1880.pdf

There's a time and place for every asset class. If the monetary system was sound to begin with, bitcoin would probably never have come into existence.


Title: Re: Warren Buffett seems to be perfectly aware of what technology brings
Post by: evoked22 on April 20, 2014, 05:03:54 AM
I am referring to the below interview, which would make me think he is not involved. Now I know his general statement is that he does not invest in things he doesn't understand. The above video makes me however believe that he perfectly understands the potential of digital gold. Just wanted to share it.

Buffett blasts bitcoin as 'mirage': 'Stay away!'
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/03/26/warren-buffett-says-bitcoin-is-a-mirage-why-marc-andreessen-thinks-hes-wrong/

haha i remember that, he was claiming that it is a bad investment and to stay away from it LOL. clearly so he buy them all!


Title: Re: Warren Buffett seems to be perfectly aware of what technology brings
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 20, 2014, 05:21:01 AM
Many people who have benefited from the current system and have accumulated a lot of fiat wealth don't see Bitcoin as an opportunity, but as a threat.

Exactly. I have seen news articles which explore the use of Bitcoins to create wealth re-distribution. Such article do scare away a lot of potential (large scale and corporate) investors. That said, when someone becomes a Ultra High-net-worth individual (UHNWI, with net worth over $50 million), his aim will be no to increase his wealth, but to protect his wealth.


Title: Re: Warren Buffett seems to be perfectly aware of what technology brings
Post by: gagalady on April 20, 2014, 02:26:07 PM
Really if billionaires will "shove" their hands into bitcoin world, imagine how they'll benefit from it. And what do you think could billionaires like warren buffet could manipulate bitcoin price in any way?


Title: Re: Warren Buffett seems to be perfectly aware of what technology brings
Post by: waldox on April 20, 2014, 04:41:07 PM
warren buffet is backed by the bankers
he is a banker insider
bitcoin is anti banks so of course he will downplay bitcoin as lots of people respect and hear his statements like the bible