Title: Qora is BCNext. Post by: truthistheretofind on April 22, 2014, 07:33:56 AM Qora developer is none other than our elusive NXT leader. Why is this being revealed now? Be patient, it will soon be revealed.
But for now don't blame the messenger, this is just passing on of information to all those wide eyed dreamers who thirst for revolution. "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." – Richard Buckminster Fuller http://redyouthuk.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/mao-chinese-revolution-2560x1600.jpg Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: ShroomsKit_Disgrace on April 22, 2014, 11:57:13 AM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81HelX56x9Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81HelX56x9Y)
Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: 2Kool4Skewl on April 22, 2014, 08:17:26 PM "Do not trust anyone who calls themselves BCNext."
- BCNext Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: minerfool on April 22, 2014, 10:44:53 PM well the screenshots of the wallet turned me off ...
Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: 91porn on April 23, 2014, 06:32:28 AM Qora is not BCNext.
But qora will be great. ;) Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: hyunsookmom on April 23, 2014, 07:06:38 AM I really thought it was a scam and i'm still not 100% it isn't so people shouldn't assume its legit yet. BUT I throw one cautious compliment to the developer.
IF and its a big IF, but if he actually implements what he said he will in the next couple of months which is his plan then he has done what has taken BCNext and tonnes of developers months to do and still they are screwing up. It seems Qora is almost a one man band. This is why I'm a closet skeptic at this point cause it seems like an impossible mountain to cross. But IF he does maybe we need to not compare Qora to BCNext but compare BCNext to Qora. I'm 99% sure Qora is not BCNext but this thought kept coming up in my head, what if BCNext just got tired of how slow NXT developers were implementing his coin that he just made another one and did it himself. NXT developers in my mind have dropped the ball and over egged the implementation of what was a genius development from BCNext so now clones have the upperhand, I'm pissed cause I was almost 100% invested in NXT. Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: blueface on April 23, 2014, 08:52:46 AM I really thought it was a scam and i'm still not 100% it isn't so people shouldn't assume its legit yet. BUT I throw one cautious compliment to the developer. IF and its a big IF, but if he actually implements what he said he will in the next couple of months which is his plan then he has done what has taken BCNext and tonnes of developers months to do and still they are screwing up. It seems Qora is almost a one man band. This is why I'm a closet skeptic at this point cause it seems like an impossible mountain to cross. But IF he does maybe we need to not compare Qora to BCNext but compare BCNext to Qora. I'm 99% sure Qora is not BCNext but this thought kept coming up in my head, what if BCNext just got tired of how slow NXT developers were implementing his coin that he just made another one and did it himself. NXT developers in my mind have dropped the ball and over egged the implementation of what was a genius development from BCNext so now clones have the upperhand, I'm pissed cause I was almost 100% invested in NXT. Not be too serious, just a joke Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: ShroomsKit_Disgrace on April 23, 2014, 10:51:49 AM NXT developers in my mind have dropped the ball and over egged the implementation of what was a genius development from BCNext so now clones have the upperhand, I'm pissed cause I was almost 100% invested in NXT. Are you serious? Did you check https://nxtforum.org/ (https://nxtforum.org/) ? Tons of developments at the moment. Moreover, Asset Exchange has a countdown!: http://www.nxtcommunity.org/ (http://www.nxtcommunity.org/) Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: 2Kool4Skewl on April 23, 2014, 05:02:45 PM NXT developers in my mind have dropped the ball and over egged the implementation of what was a genius development from BCNext so now clones have the upperhand, I'm pissed cause I was almost 100% invested in NXT. Are you serious? Did you check https://nxtforum.org/ (https://nxtforum.org/) ? Tons of developments at the moment. Moreover, Asset Exchange has a countdown!: http://www.nxtcommunity.org/ (http://www.nxtcommunity.org/) Exactly. The development team is sticking to BCNext's vision for NXT as he outlined in his three part plan. The clones are blatant copies of NXT, vaporware and some are outright scams. It sounds like you are upset over the current price. You should be happy that the development is not concerned about the price, but instead concerned about the proper implementation of the feature set. Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: zhanlang13 on April 23, 2014, 05:10:43 PM NXT developers in my mind have dropped the ball and over egged the implementation of what was a genius development from BCNext so now clones have the upperhand, I'm pissed cause I was almost 100% invested in NXT. Are you serious? Did you check https://nxtforum.org/ (https://nxtforum.org/) ? Tons of developments at the moment. Moreover, Asset Exchange has a countdown!: http://www.nxtcommunity.org/ (http://www.nxtcommunity.org/) Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: salsacz on April 23, 2014, 06:00:07 PM We know BCNext is working on some other project. So it might be a Qora. Qora also uses similar language as BCNext.
Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: jimmymac on April 30, 2014, 06:28:18 PM Really? I though BCNext was from the US and Qora has said he is in Europe?
Where is BCNext from, has he said? Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: wizzardTim on April 30, 2014, 10:28:46 PM Qora looks great! The most userfriendly client I've ever seen. Hoping to become huge!!
Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: wedar001 on April 30, 2014, 11:46:46 PM Qora looks great! The most userfriendly client I've ever seen. Hoping to become huge!! i think soTitle: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: rumpey on May 01, 2014, 02:16:58 AM Qora has a working beta client, which is very promising and the planned developments could make it a massive hit.
Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: nextgencoin on May 03, 2014, 04:27:28 PM its possible I guess. I did a bit of a research to look at language similarities. Do we know where BCNext is from?
Qora said at least he is in Europe. Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: cryptowho on May 03, 2014, 04:36:28 PM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81HelX56x9Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81HelX56x9Y) pleasant video! do not know what they are signing about. probably love. male -female duet - sounds laid back-ish 8/10 would listen again Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: nextgencoin on May 13, 2014, 06:04:14 PM Today I looked through the posts of BCNext.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=152600;sa=showPosts;start=40 And Qora posts. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=289537;sa=showPosts;start=20 I'm invested in both coins and am fascinated but the idea of them being the same guy. I have my doubts but seriously they both speak in almost exactly the same way. really high quality English but you can tell with some grammar they are not native speakers. Not Asian or Russian but most likely European. So Qora has said he is from Europe possibly said Netherlands (not sure) and BCNExt has almost the same quality of English. They both fro example say things like I can not, instead of can't or Will not instead of won't. Good English but clearly not Native. So I spent about an hour scanning their posts. I might do a real study fo them. Sherlock Holmes is my hero, im a nerd like that. So apart from the Obvious language similarity. I noted a few things 1. The speak very minimally. They don't chit chat, just short bursts of talk mainly focused on the work involved. 2. BCnext has stated he works alone due to his bad experiences working with other developers. BUT he says he has a guy who works on the client. Now we also know that Qora works alone and also said he has a guy who works on the client. (quite a coincidence if you think about it) 3. They both use Java (not the most common programming language for coins and I believe NXT and Qora are the only coins programmed in java. I would like confirmation on this? 4. Both share in my mind behavior traits. Polite, don't attack others, mild mannered. 5. BCNext disappeared off the map end of last year. Qora appeared this year ie no overlap (its weak but worthy of note) 6. The simple fact Qora is VERY similar to NXt but a new code, but seems to improve on some things and is different in its implementation (Qora has claimed). I'm interested in what another pair of eyes could find? There are some language mistakes on both but it would take quite a bit of time to record and see any links. If no one does it I will at some point, but would be far quicker with a few more eyes. I have a hunch that there is a couple of unique spelling mistakes in them that could raise the odds of them being the same person. Just a bit lazy to do it right now. Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: Christopher RF on May 13, 2014, 06:16:34 PM You won't be dreaming? The myth of the BC is not copied
Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: nextgencoin on May 13, 2014, 06:21:11 PM You won't be dreaming? The myth of the BC is not copied You make zero sense but thanks anyway. Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: kc7273738 on May 14, 2014, 05:56:57 PM very great and want to know it. make the moon.
Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: nextgencoin on May 15, 2014, 02:43:01 AM very great and want to know it. make the moon. Is this whole site sockpuppets? Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: nextgencoin on May 15, 2014, 02:44:43 AM very great and want to know it. make the moon. Is this whole site sockpuppets? I wish someone else would look and comment on writing coincidences, otherwise im gonna have to do it.. :'( Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: nextgencoin on May 15, 2014, 08:07:41 PM This is great! This forum is going downhill fast.. Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: gorillajam on May 27, 2014, 07:44:55 PM This needs a Bump, people need to see this!!
I don't know if it true but if it is then its crazy!! Qora is better than NXT!! Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: Djinou94 on May 28, 2014, 12:36:14 AM Yes he is ! :o
I gonna ask him a autograph ! Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: jubalix on May 28, 2014, 02:55:49 AM "Do not trust anyone who calls themselves BCNext." I dont think qora has claimed to be BCNext- BCNext Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: williamevanl on May 28, 2014, 05:28:36 AM "Do not trust anyone who calls themselves BCNext." I dont think qora has claimed to be BCNext- BCNext Wow! He would do very well for the currency if he comes out with the news! Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: gorillajam on May 28, 2014, 07:27:43 AM "Do not trust anyone who calls themselves BCNext." I dont think qora has claimed to be BCNext- BCNext Wow! He would do very well for the currency if he comes out with the news! Some things are best left unsaid. Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: sadface on May 28, 2014, 08:38:15 AM all this is bs.
apart from that it would be terrible for qora. it would make it a disguised 2.0 copy paste clone where he disappears again with a decent stake. also: if you love his creations so much, why not invest in nxt? Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: nextgencoin on May 28, 2014, 09:58:54 AM all this is bs. apart from that it would be terrible for qora. it would make it a disguised 2.0 copy paste clone where he disappears again with a decent stake. also: if you love his creations so much, why not invest in nxt? can't a developer make a new coded coin? Seems to me he got tired of how NXT was spoiled by too many cooks and decided to make his next development more as a solo project. Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: sadface on May 28, 2014, 10:39:30 AM all this is bs. apart from that it would be terrible for qora. it would make it a disguised 2.0 copy paste clone where he disappears again with a decent stake. also: if you love his creations so much, why not invest in nxt? can't a developer make a new coded coin? Seems to me he got tired of how NXT was spoiled by too many cooks and decided to make his next development more as a solo project. not sure what youre talking about, but he disappaered before the source code was even released. how can there be too many cooks in a crypo? a decentralized solo project? come on... ppl need to stop making threads like this. they serve no purpose other than to manipulate not informed or credulous ppl to invest in something for false reasons. i'm not saying qora is shit, however this thread hurts qora imo. last reply, i'm not going to bump this again. Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: gorillajam on May 28, 2014, 11:54:44 AM all this is bs. apart from that it would be terrible for qora. it would make it a disguised 2.0 copy paste clone where he disappears again with a decent stake. also: if you love his creations so much, why not invest in nxt? can't a developer make a new coded coin? Seems to me he got tired of how NXT was spoiled by too many cooks and decided to make his next development more as a solo project. not sure what youre talking about, but he disappaered before the source code was even released. how can there be too many cooks in a crypo? a decentralized solo project? come on... ppl need to stop making threads like this. they serve no purpose other than to manipulate not informed or credulous ppl to invest in something for false reasons. i'm not saying qora is shit, however this thread hurts qora imo. last reply, i'm not going to bump this again. I looked at your past posts. Should anyone respect the opinions of someone who invests in Memecoin? My guess is you want to push the price down. Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: sadface on May 28, 2014, 12:05:14 PM all this is bs. apart from that it would be terrible for qora. it would make it a disguised 2.0 copy paste clone where he disappears again with a decent stake. also: if you love his creations so much, why not invest in nxt? can't a developer make a new coded coin? Seems to me he got tired of how NXT was spoiled by too many cooks and decided to make his next development more as a solo project. not sure what youre talking about, but he disappaered before the source code was even released. how can there be too many cooks in a crypo? a decentralized solo project? come on... ppl need to stop making threads like this. they serve no purpose other than to manipulate not informed or credulous ppl to invest in something for false reasons. i'm not saying qora is shit, however this thread hurts qora imo. last reply, i'm not going to bump this again. I looked at your past posts. Should anyone respect the opinions of someone who invests in Memecoin? My guess is you want to push the price down. i never had a cent in memecoin. you got me to post again, gj :) Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: gorillajam on May 28, 2014, 02:38:48 PM all this is bs. apart from that it would be terrible for qora. it would make it a disguised 2.0 copy paste clone where he disappears again with a decent stake. also: if you love his creations so much, why not invest in nxt? can't a developer make a new coded coin? Seems to me he got tired of how NXT was spoiled by too many cooks and decided to make his next development more as a solo project. not sure what youre talking about, but he disappaered before the source code was even released. how can there be too many cooks in a crypo? a decentralized solo project? come on... ppl need to stop making threads like this. they serve no purpose other than to manipulate not informed or credulous ppl to invest in something for false reasons. i'm not saying qora is shit, however this thread hurts qora imo. last reply, i'm not going to bump this again. I looked at your past posts. Should anyone respect the opinions of someone who invests in Memecoin? My guess is you want to push the price down. i never had a cent in memecoin. you got me to post again, gj :) My mistake. I guess someone broke into your house downloaded the Memecoin wallet, found your Bitcointalk password and posted on the Memecoin giveaway. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=225461.msg2371991#msg2371991 You will probably have to post again in response now.. Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: gitinahang on May 28, 2014, 03:27:24 PM jean-luc said qora's code is a fork of nxt 4.xxx but went on a different path. He doesn't believe there are smiliarities to BCnext. Pluse qora said he is from Netherlands. Why
would BCNext admit that when being so secretive in the nxt days? Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: wizzardTim on May 28, 2014, 03:43:06 PM there are many indications that qora is the same person as bcnext.
but let the man stay anonymous if that's what he wants/we should respect him/them. Even if qora is not bcnext, I can recognize when a coin has true potential. And that's what really matters. Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: gorillajam on May 28, 2014, 03:54:05 PM jean-luc said qora's code is a fork of nxt 4.xxx but went on a different path. He doesn't believe there are smiliarities to BCnext. Pluse qora said he is from Netherlands. Why would BCNext admit that when being so secretive in the nxt days? Netherlands has 16 million people, its hardly blowing your cover. Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: Hippie Tech on May 28, 2014, 04:16:50 PM very great and want to know it. make the moon. Is this whole site sockpuppets? Sad isn't it.. 90% of this junk have the same douche devs and exchanges that fractional reserve em.. Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: dzarmush on May 28, 2014, 11:16:20 PM Quote from: Jean-Luc It is not a clone, at least not a clone of the recent code. The code is obfuscated (probably proguard?) and I don't have time to dig further, but seems to be using a lot of third party libraries that we [Nxt] don't use. Uses jetty, and json-simple, but also jackson and mapdb, no H2. The developer has definitely borrowed ideas from Nxt, but probably not much from the current implementation. As for the speculations that it may be BCNext himself - not his style, remember the original Nxt code did not use any other libraries (even the jetty dependency was added later by CfB) and was a single file. It is more likely a good java developer who started from the original Nxt 0.4.x code like I did, but then continued his own way into a completely different implementation. But all this may have been intentional, to confuse people - so the conspiracy theories will keep going on. Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: Hippie Tech on May 28, 2014, 11:34:04 PM Quote from: Jean-Luc It is not a clone, at least not a clone of the recent code. The code is obfuscated (probably proguard?) and I don't have time to dig further, but seems to be using a lot of third party libraries that we [Nxt] don't use. Uses jetty, and json-simple, but also jackson and mapdb, no H2. The developer has definitely borrowed ideas from Nxt, but probably not much from the current implementation. As for the speculations that it may be BCNext himself - not his style, remember the original Nxt code did not use any other libraries (even the jetty dependency was added later by CfB) and was a single file. It is more likely a good java developer who started from the original Nxt 0.4.x code like I did, but then continued his own way into a completely different implementation. But all this may have been intentional, to confuse people - so the conspiracy theories will keep going on. 6 million and 4 UR fuckeds.. 6 million and 5 ... WTG Mr. Shill ... Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: gorillajam on June 04, 2014, 03:02:01 PM Quote from: Jean-Luc It is not a clone, at least not a clone of the recent code. The code is obfuscated (probably proguard?) and I don't have time to dig further, but seems to be using a lot of third party libraries that we [Nxt] don't use. Uses jetty, and json-simple, but also jackson and mapdb, no H2. The developer has definitely borrowed ideas from Nxt, but probably not much from the current implementation. As for the speculations that it may be BCNext himself - not his style, remember the original Nxt code did not use any other libraries (even the jetty dependency was added later by CfB) and was a single file. It is more likely a good java developer who started from the original Nxt 0.4.x code like I did, but then continued his own way into a completely different implementation. But all this may have been intentional, to confuse people - so the conspiracy theories will keep going on. 6 million and 4 UR fuckeds.. 6 million and 5 ... WTG Mr. Shill ... By the way what the hell do you mean? Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: Hippie Tech on June 04, 2014, 10:35:49 PM Quote from: Jean-Luc It is not a clone, at least not a clone of the recent code. The code is obfuscated (probably proguard?) and I don't have time to dig further, but seems to be using a lot of third party libraries that we [Nxt] don't use. Uses jetty, and json-simple, but also jackson and mapdb, no H2. The developer has definitely borrowed ideas from Nxt, but probably not much from the current implementation. As for the speculations that it may be BCNext himself - not his style, remember the original Nxt code did not use any other libraries (even the jetty dependency was added later by CfB) and was a single file. It is more likely a good java developer who started from the original Nxt 0.4.x code like I did, but then continued his own way into a completely different implementation. But all this may have been intentional, to confuse people - so the conspiracy theories will keep going on. 6 million and 4 UR fuckeds.. 6 million and 5 ... WTG Mr. Shill ... By the way what the hell do you mean? I was making light of the fact that a shitcoin, eg. QORA, was worth $6 million. The price was 100 sats at that time.. Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: Fatih-Brahman on June 04, 2014, 10:38:18 PM Hey @ all.
Why there are so many haters about a coin! It is just a coin and nothing more. ;) Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: bitcoinpaul on June 06, 2014, 06:28:12 AM "Do not trust anyone who calls themselves BCNext." - BCNext Discussion ended. Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: wizzardTim on June 06, 2014, 06:29:15 AM "Do not trust anyone who calls themselves BCNext." - BCNext Discussion ended. He never admitted anything ;) Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: gorillajam on June 06, 2014, 08:50:09 AM Quote from: Jean-Luc It is not a clone, at least not a clone of the recent code. The code is obfuscated (probably proguard?) and I don't have time to dig further, but seems to be using a lot of third party libraries that we [Nxt] don't use. Uses jetty, and json-simple, but also jackson and mapdb, no H2. The developer has definitely borrowed ideas from Nxt, but probably not much from the current implementation. As for the speculations that it may be BCNext himself - not his style, remember the original Nxt code did not use any other libraries (even the jetty dependency was added later by CfB) and was a single file. It is more likely a good java developer who started from the original Nxt 0.4.x code like I did, but then continued his own way into a completely different implementation. But all this may have been intentional, to confuse people - so the conspiracy theories will keep going on. 6 million and 4 UR fuckeds.. 6 million and 5 ... WTG Mr. Shill ... By the way what the hell do you mean? I was making light of the fact that a shitcoin, eg. QORA, was worth $6 million. The price was 100 sats at that time.. you got a weird definition for shitcoin. Qora is a new code. There are only two other new codes so far. Shitcoin? Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: allwelder on June 07, 2014, 04:58:51 AM BCNext will tell us who is him ;)
Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: wizzardTim on February 14, 2015, 11:49:34 AM BCNext will tell us who is him ;) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881230.msg10457748#msg10457748 ^^what if he already did.. Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: jman887854 on February 14, 2015, 04:32:54 PM The price of Qora has definitely started to rise. What are the chances that both Qora and BCNext make exactly 231 posts and then mysteriously disappear, never to be heard from again. He's like a serial killer all cryptic and mystical.
Title: Re: Qora is BCNext. Post by: gentlemand on February 14, 2015, 05:12:01 PM The price of Qora has definitely started to rise. What are the chances that both Qora and BCNext make exactly 231 posts and then mysteriously disappear, never to be heard from again. He's like a serial killer all cryptic and mystical. Or it does no harm to your creation to propagate a tasty mystery by duplicating easily accessible metrics. |