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Economy => Lending => Topic started by: Tomatocage on April 23, 2014, 05:38:13 PM



Title: [ACTIVE] Tomatocage's 2%-10% interest loans, up to 5 BTC (collateral required)
Post by: Tomatocage on April 23, 2014, 05:38:13 PM
I decided to create a new thread instead of having to go through and edit the old topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=288543.0). Lending has been switched back ON, but things are a bit different this time. The point where your BTC needs meet my lending goals meet is going to be a little fatter, to the tune of 10% (up from 1% previously). However, collateral requirements have been reduced to 100% (down from 115%) for the loan. Here's the breakdown.

I have up to 5 BTC to loan at 10% or less*!!!

No questions asked, and brand new users welcomed, even if you just registered today.

Terms
  • You must supply collateral before receiving a loan
  • Collateral must be in the form of LTC, XPM, PPC, NMC
  • The amount of collateral will be the same (converted to BTC at that time) as you're borrowing
  • All loans are for a period of one week, unless agreed upon otherwise
  • All collateral transfers must be from an address that YOU control

*Interest scales with amount of loan:
5 BTC 2%
4 BTC 4%
3 BTC 6%
2 BTC 8%
1 BTC 10%

Example Request
Amount requested: 1.5 BTC
Purpose: I don't care (No questions asked, etc)
Term: 1 week (negotiable)
Interest: 8%
Trusted?: I don't care. You're supplying collateral.

FAQ:
Q: Why would I give 100% collateral when I can just sell my coins and get the same BTC?
A: Well, for one thing there's the exchange fees you'd have to swallow, which can be pretty sizable at the loan limit of 5 BTC. And keep in mind that you'd have to pay these exchange fees twice -- once to sell your coins, and yet again to reacquire them, and don't forget to factor in the withdrawal fees as well. Second, you're protected against price surges. For example, if LTC (or whatever you use as collateral) suddenly doubles or triples in value while your loan is active, and then you need to buy them back (remember, you sold your LTC for BTC right?), you're going to end up with significantly less LTC than you had before. This way you're completely protected against price surges since you'll get back ALL of your LTC after you pay your loan off :)



Title: Re: [ACTIVE] Tomatocage's 10% interest loans, up to 5 BTC (collateral required)
Post by: pandacoin on April 23, 2014, 07:00:04 PM
Collateral + huge interest rate, huh? Good luck.


Title: Re: [ACTIVE] Tomatocage's 10% interest loans, up to 5 BTC (collateral required)
Post by: Tomatocage on April 23, 2014, 08:27:23 PM
A quick glance at the threads in this section shows quite a few borrowers willing to pay back 50-300%, so 10% isn't too unreasonable I think?


Title: Re: [ACTIVE] Tomatocage's 10% interest loans, up to 5 BTC (collateral required)
Post by: deadley on April 23, 2014, 08:30:54 PM
A quick glance at the threads in this section shows quite a few borrowers willing to pay back 50-300%, so 10% isn't too unreasonable I think?

dont you think 10% for 1 week is really high. you are not giving micro loan where 10% is nothing.


Title: Re: [ACTIVE] Tomatocage's 10% interest loans, up to 5 BTC (collateral required)
Post by: Tomatocage on April 23, 2014, 08:33:04 PM
dont you think 10% for 1 week is really high. you are not giving micro loan where 10% is nothing.

It's a hedge against price fluctuations. Previously I charged 1%, but required 115% collateral. But as I noted previously, there seems to be a large number of people willing to pay several hundred percent, so 10% should be nothing to them.


Title: Re: [ACTIVE] Tomatocage's 10% interest loans, up to 5 BTC (collateral required)
Post by: austin on April 24, 2014, 12:35:10 AM
A quick glance at the threads in this section shows quite a few borrowers willing to pay back 50-300%, so 10% isn't too unreasonable I think?

dont you think 10% for 1 week is really high. you are not giving micro loan where 10% is nothing.
An interest rate of 10% is pretty reasonable when you consider that the collateral is relatively volatile. If the collateral coin crashes for whatever reason, the borrower would have incentive to default on his loan. You won't get the same rate as a bank loan against your car because your car probably isn't going to lose a large portion of its value in a short period of time.


Title: Re: [ACTIVE] Tomatocage's 10% interest loans, up to 5 BTC (collateral required)
Post by: GBattaglia on April 24, 2014, 01:07:50 AM
I'm unsure how many people would take a loan out of 1 BTC minimum at these terms.
For a user to come out ahead considering these terms the loans would require collateral to shift by at least 10% in a week.
Since the only accepted collateral is the major alternatives right now, that is very unlikely to happen.

Don't know, there is a market for everything I reckon.  I just don't see the logic for lendees. 


Title: Re: [ACTIVE] Tomatocage's 10% interest loans, up to 5 BTC (collateral required)
Post by: Tomatocage on April 24, 2014, 01:17:37 AM
I'm unsure how many people would take a loan out of 1 BTC minimum at these terms.
For a user to come out ahead considering these terms the loans would require collateral to shift by at least 10% in a week.
Since the only accepted collateral is the major alternatives right now, that is very unlikely to happen.

Don't know, there is a market for everything I reckon.  I just don't see the logic for lendees. 

Who knows why they might need a loan? I don't, but I don't care, just as long as collateral is provided. And just scanning some recent threads, I have seen quite a few people willing to pay way more than 10%:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=581492.0 <--65%
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=580826.0 <--12%+
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=565476.0 <--25%
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577908.0 <--50%
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=575004.0 <--15%
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=575345.0 <--66%
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=571061.0 <--20%


Title: Re: [ACTIVE] Tomatocage's 10% interest loans, up to 5 BTC (collateral required)
Post by: deadley on April 24, 2014, 01:24:54 AM
I'm unsure how many people would take a loan out of 1 BTC minimum at these terms.
For a user to come out ahead considering these terms the loans would require collateral to shift by at least 10% in a week.
Since the only accepted collateral is the major alternatives right now, that is very unlikely to happen.

Don't know, there is a market for everything I reckon.  I just don't see the logic for lendees. 

Who knows why they might need a loan? I don't, but I don't care, just as long as collateral is provided. And just scanning some recent threads, I have seen quite a few people willing to pay way more than 10%:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=581492.0 <--65%
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=580826.0 <--12%+
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=565476.0 <--25%
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577908.0 <--50%
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=575004.0 <--15%
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=575345.0 <--66%
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=571061.0 <--20%

but mostly newbie who did not got loan and fan eagle was asking micro loan of 0.01, for that 25% wont hurt but for 1-5 BTC its really hurt. but I agree in 1 thing you are taking risk by only taking 100% collateral coz even lender take loan and dont want to payback you still wont get any profit.


Title: Re: [ACTIVE] Tomatocage's 10% interest loans, up to 5 BTC (collateral required)
Post by: GBattaglia on April 24, 2014, 01:57:28 AM
I'm unsure how many people would take a loan out of 1 BTC minimum at these terms.
For a user to come out ahead considering these terms the loans would require collateral to shift by at least 10% in a week.
Since the only accepted collateral is the major alternatives right now, that is very unlikely to happen.

Don't know, there is a market for everything I reckon.  I just don't see the logic for lendees. 

Who knows why they might need a loan? I don't, but I don't care, just as long as collateral is provided. And just scanning some recent threads, I have seen quite a few people willing to pay way more than 10%:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=581492.0 <--65%
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=580826.0 <--12%+
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=565476.0 <--25%
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577908.0 <--50%
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=575004.0 <--15%
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=575345.0 <--66%
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=571061.0 <--20%

A lot of these people didn't get loans filled, may not have been legitimate, and also were doing the loans free of collateral. 
Collateral is the big thing here.


Title: Re: [ACTIVE] Tomatocage's 10% interest loans, up to 5 BTC (collateral required)
Post by: Vod on April 24, 2014, 02:05:20 AM
A lot of these people didn't get loans filled, may not have been legitimate, and also were doing the loans free of collateral. 
Collateral is the big thing here.

I find that users seem to offer outrageous interest rates when they don't put up collateral.

They hope greed will overcome your common sense.


Title: Re: [ACTIVE] Tomatocage's 10% interest loans, up to 5 BTC (collateral required)
Post by: GBattaglia on April 24, 2014, 02:15:14 AM
A lot of these people didn't get loans filled, may not have been legitimate, and also were doing the loans free of collateral. 
Collateral is the big thing here.

I find that users seem to offer outrageous interest rates when they don't put up collateral.

They hope greed will overcome your common sense.

I believe that is the case, yes.  That is why I'm stating using loans which have not been confirmed as having
legitimately transacted, or loans that are collateral free as a means to show a fair rate for a loan with collateral
 is an inaccurate comparison.


Title: Re: [ACTIVE] Tomatocage's 10% interest loans, up to 5 BTC (collateral required)
Post by: Tomatocage on April 24, 2014, 02:28:37 AM
After some more thought, I changed up the OP to make the interest rate a sliding scale depending on the amount of loan, since at the upper end of the loan amount, a .5 BTC repayment would indeed be a bit much.


Title: Re: [ACTIVE] Tomatocage's 2%-10% interest loans, up to 5 BTC (collateral required)
Post by: ahmedjadoon on May 16, 2014, 12:29:02 PM
The amount of collateral will be the same (converted to BTC at that time) as you're borrowing
If someone got that much worth of ALT then he can easily exchange to BTC. Why would someone borrow then?


Title: Re: [ACTIVE] Tomatocage's 2%-10% interest loans, up to 5 BTC (collateral required)
Post by: austin on May 16, 2014, 01:09:45 PM
The amount of collateral will be the same (converted to BTC at that time) as you're borrowing
If someone got that much worth of ALT then he can easily exchange to BTC. Why would someone borrow then?
A common question is why don't I just sell my collateral? Well the reasoning behind collateral is that you think it's going to appreciate in price or do not want to sell it, encouraging you to pay back the loan to have your collateral returned.


Title: Re: [ACTIVE] Tomatocage's 2%-10% interest loans, up to 5 BTC (collateral required)
Post by: zolace on May 16, 2014, 02:25:57 PM
Hi so anything underneath 1 bitcoin is 10 percent correct,  I can provide collateral i have ppc and litecoins and dogecoins let me know cage if I can get a loan for a two days


Title: Re: [ACTIVE] Tomatocage's 2%-10% interest loans, up to 5 BTC (collateral required)
Post by: Tomatocage on May 16, 2014, 11:29:38 PM
Hi so anything underneath 1 bitcoin is 10 percent correct,  I can provide collateral i have ppc and litecoins and dogecoins let me know cage if I can get a loan for a two days

That's correct. I can take LTC or PPC as collateral, but not DOGE unfortunately. BTC-e spot rate for the conversion. Lemme know how much you need :)


Title: Re: [ACTIVE] Tomatocage's 2%-10% interest loans, up to 5 BTC (collateral required)
Post by: zolace on May 16, 2014, 11:34:58 PM
Hi so anything underneath 1 bitcoin is 10 percent correct,  I can provide collateral i have ppc and litecoins and dogecoins let me know cage if I can get a loan for a two days

That's correct. I can take LTC or PPC as collateral, but not DOGE unfortunately. BTC-e spot rate for the conversion. Lemme know how much you need :)

I need only 0.03 just till 2 days or less ok, send me pm with ur address to send litecoins, u will give my litecoins back? once I send u the btc back?


Title: Re: [ACTIVE] Tomatocage's 2%-10% interest loans, up to 5 BTC (collateral required)
Post by: Tomatocage on May 16, 2014, 11:42:43 PM
I need only 0.03 just till 2 days or less ok, send me pm with ur address to send litecoins, u will give my litecoins back? once I send u the btc back?

Please deposit 1.28 LTC to LKJt4gekcPu7FKGWx2KoFgBjTJx53EFChr

What is your BTC address?

Edit: Going afk for dinner.


Title: Re: [ACTIVE] Tomatocage's 2%-10% interest loans, up to 5 BTC (collateral required)
Post by: Tomatocage on May 17, 2014, 04:16:44 PM
Guess you didn't need the loan after all.


Title: Re: [ACTIVE] Tomatocage's 10% interest loans, up to 5 BTC (collateral required)
Post by: jeffersonairplane on June 11, 2014, 10:18:47 PM
I'm unsure how many people would take a loan out of 1 BTC minimum at these terms.
For a user to come out ahead considering these terms the loans would require collateral to shift by at least 10% in a week.
Since the only accepted collateral is the major alternatives right now, that is very unlikely to happen.

Don't know, there is a market for everything I reckon.  I just don't see the logic for lendees. 

Who knows why they might need a loan? I don't, but I don't care, just as long as collateral is provided. And just scanning some recent threads, I have seen quite a few people willing to pay way more than 10%:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=581492.0 <--65%
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=580826.0 <--12%+
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=565476.0 <--25%
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577908.0 <--50%
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=575004.0 <--15%
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=575345.0 <--66%
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=571061.0 <--20%

All these people supplying these ridiculous rates of interest are scammers. Don't believe a world they say.


Title: Re: [ACTIVE] Tomatocage's 2%-10% interest loans, up to 5 BTC (collateral required)
Post by: grtthegreat on September 05, 2014, 04:09:49 PM
Your name has been added to the LIST OF ACTIVE LENDERS IN THE FORUM. Your comments on the thread are appreciated.

Thread Here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=770525.0


Title: Re: [ACTIVE] Tomatocage's 2%-10% interest loans, up to 5 BTC (collateral required)
Post by: airpline1 on September 25, 2014, 09:56:25 PM
Amount requested: 0.1
Purpose: Hashing Power/Investment
Term: 1 week
Interest: 8%
Collateral: 50 RBT. Or we can discuss other than this.


Title: Re: [ACTIVE] Tomatocage's 2%-10% interest loans, up to 5 BTC (collateral required)
Post by: darkghost568 on September 26, 2014, 06:23:55 AM
Hey. I want to order and ship something fast, but my coinbase order is pending because I've already purchased $1000 of BTC this week. I need a loan of 0.8577 BTC. I will pay back the loan by October 1st once my order goes through.

Proof of my coinbase order:
http://m.imgur.com/ax1i6IV

Proof I can afford the BTC and the order will go through:
http://m.imgur.com/VpJOTak

I'm not quite sure how the collateral system works but I could probably do like a bank transfer or something. I'm not worried because I know I'm going to be able to pay this back very very soon.


Title: Re: [ACTIVE] Tomatocage's 2%-10% interest loans, up to 5 BTC (collateral required)
Post by: Tomatocage on September 26, 2014, 09:01:19 AM
Amount requested: 0.1
Purpose: Hashing Power/Investment
Term: 1 week
Interest: 8%
Collateral: 50 RBT. Or we can discuss other than this.

Sorry, man. I don't deal with RBT. If you have LTC, PPC, or XPM, we can talk.


Title: Re: [ACTIVE] Tomatocage's 2%-10% interest loans, up to 5 BTC (collateral required)
Post by: Tomatocage on September 26, 2014, 09:03:33 AM
Hey. I want to order and ship something fast, but my coinbase order is pending because I've already purchased $1000 of BTC this week. I need a loan of 0.8577 BTC. I will pay back the loan by October 1st once my order goes through.

Proof of my coinbase order:
http://m.imgur.com/ax1i6IV

Proof I can afford the BTC and the order will go through:
http://m.imgur.com/VpJOTak

I'm not quite sure how the collateral system works but I could probably do like a bank transfer or something. I'm not worried because I know I'm going to be able to pay this back very very soon.

As with my previous reply, if you have any alt coins for collateral, I'd be happy too loan to you. Unfortunately I do not take any form of analog money as collateral :(


Title: Re: [ACTIVE] Tomatocage's 2%-10% interest loans, up to 5 BTC (collateral required)
Post by: darkghost568 on September 26, 2014, 09:21:02 AM
Quote
As with my previous reply, if you have any alt coins for collateral, I'd be happy too loan to you. Unfortunately I do not take any form of analog money as collateral :(
Ok thank you for your reply.


Title: Re: [ACTIVE] Tomatocage's 2%-10% interest loans, up to 5 BTC (collateral required)
Post by: airpline1 on September 26, 2014, 12:42:00 PM
Amount requested: 0.1
Purpose: Hashing Power/Investment
Term: 1 week
Interest: 8%
Collateral: 50 RBT. Or we can discuss other than this.

Sorry, man. I don't deal with RBT. If you have LTC, PPC, or XPM, we can talk.

Hmm, PM Me, I'll see what I can do.


Title: Re: [ACTIVE] Tomatocage's 2%-10% interest loans, up to 5 BTC (collateral required)
Post by: Tomatocage on September 26, 2014, 05:03:10 PM
Sorry, I'm not sure I understand what the issue is. What about your negative trust is untrue or are you unclear about?


Title: Re: [ACTIVE] Tomatocage's 2%-10% interest loans, up to 5 BTC (collateral required)
Post by: marcotheminer on September 26, 2014, 05:04:49 PM
Sorry, I'm not sure I understand what the issue is. What about your negative trust is untrue or are you unclear about?

Whatever the problem, this should be discussed elsewhere  ::)


Title: Re: [ACTIVE] Tomatocage's 2%-10% interest loans, up to 5 BTC (collateral required)
Post by: grtthegreat on September 26, 2014, 05:08:24 PM
Sorry, I'm not sure I understand what the issue is. What about your negative trust is untrue or are you unclear about?

Sorry, I'm not sure I understand what the issue is. What about your negative trust is untrue or are you unclear about?

Whatever the problem, this should be discussed elsewhere  ::)

Frankly speaking, I love the way all the lenders here cooperate and help each other. I remember marcotheminer warning me about scammer, Tomatocage many a times helping me out and redsn0w posting on my thread about "No Collateral, No Loan" rule and else many people helping each other. Thanks to all you guys for the help and support.  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*.


Title: Re: [ACTIVE] Tomatocage's 2%-10% interest loans, up to 5 BTC (collateral required)
Post by: grtthegreat on September 26, 2014, 05:11:10 PM
1. You are not my customer
2. You can see clearly Customer feedback on my sales threads
3. Everyone is very happy about the services I offer
4. Only one negative review of you make my business in trouble


Are you happy

This is not the place to discuss all this. This is his loan thread. I just hope this is a self moderated thread so that he can clean up the thread.


Title: Re: [ACTIVE] Tomatocage's 2%-10% interest loans, up to 5 BTC (collateral required)
Post by: marcotheminer on September 26, 2014, 05:15:40 PM
Sorry, I'm not sure I understand what the issue is. What about your negative trust is untrue or are you unclear about?

Sorry, I'm not sure I understand what the issue is. What about your negative trust is untrue or are you unclear about?

Whatever the problem, this should be discussed elsewhere  ::)

Frankly speaking, I love the way all the lenders here cooperate and help each other. I remember marcotheminer warning me about scammer, Tomatocage many a times helping me out and redsn0w posting on my thread about "No Collateral, No Loan" rule and else many people helping each other. Thanks to all you guys for the help and support.  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*.

Just posting as I can to help out :)


Title: Re: [ACTIVE] Tomatocage's 2%-10% interest loans, up to 5 BTC (collateral required)
Post by: sofia26 on September 26, 2014, 07:04:19 PM
@tomatocage: i need your respond on my selling threads.
Why i've carring Trade with extreme caution!


Edited: The problem was solved by @Tomatocage, thanks