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Title: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: nzminer on April 26, 2014, 02:51:22 AM
What exchange allows this?
If any such exchanges do this, whats the best rate?
I need some BTC as im wanting to invest in other altcoins.


Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: Vod on April 26, 2014, 02:54:38 AM
What exchange allows this?
If any such exchanges do this, whats the best rate?
I need some BTC as im wanting to invest in other altcoins.

I would never sell BTC to someone using a credit card, unless I knew them personally.

They can always claim the card was stolen and recover the funds.  You can't recover the bitcoins.

Are you looking to scam someone?


Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: MrBea on April 26, 2014, 03:47:02 AM
Coinbase


Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: nzminer on April 26, 2014, 04:27:11 AM
What exchange allows this?
If any such exchanges do this, whats the best rate?
I need some BTC as im wanting to invest in other altcoins.

I would never sell BTC to someone using a credit card, unless I knew them personally.

They can always claim the card was stolen and recover the funds.  You can't recover the bitcoins.

Are you looking to scam someone?
Why would i be looking to scam someone?
Im not asking to do a paypal transaction on here!
Im not that stupid, although i do understand some members make such transactions on this forum if they have a high trust level.
All im getting at is that all the exchanges such as cryptsy require you to spend BTC and not USD, and those that let you buy BTC with USD dont accept credit cards.


Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: PerrythePlatypus on April 26, 2014, 04:35:22 AM
What exchange allows this?
If any such exchanges do this, whats the best rate?
I need some BTC as im wanting to invest in other altcoins.
Hardly anyone accept credit card since you can claim your credit card to be hacked and get refunded. Just go to a bitcoin atm and buy using cash.


Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: nzminer on April 26, 2014, 04:38:26 AM
We dont have a BTC ATM here (yet).
Im in New Zealand and Auckland is the only place with a Bitcoin ATM.
Besides i thought those ATM's took credit cards, but perhaps im wrong, i thought paypal was the issue for refunds, are there not any escrow services?
Its annoying for me because i dont have a US bank account.


Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: Oldminer on April 26, 2014, 04:39:08 AM
What exchange allows this?
If any such exchanges do this, whats the best rate?
I need some BTC as im wanting to invest in other altcoins.

Try eNumbered (http://www.enumbered.com?refid=6486) (they also accept Paypal)


Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: PerrythePlatypus on April 26, 2014, 04:40:58 AM
We dont have a BTC ATM here (yet).
Im in New Zealand and Auckland is the only place with a Bitcoin ATM.
Besides i thought those ATM's took credit cards, but perhaps im wrong, i thought paypal was the issue for refunds, are there not any escrow services?
Its annoying for me because i dont have a US bank account.
I forgot about this: virwox accept credit cards. But their fees are high.


Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: Vod on April 26, 2014, 04:45:09 AM
are there not any escrow services?

Sure, if you are willing to have the escrow hold onto your coins for the six to twelve months until your ability to do a charge back expires.

Once you can no longer claw back the money, you'll get your coins. 

I'll do this right now for you if you want.


Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: nzminer on April 26, 2014, 04:46:25 AM
I see there are a few places you can purchase BTC in NZ, like https://bitnz.com/
but ive got no idea how legit they are.


Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: snarlpill on April 26, 2014, 05:23:28 AM
@OP I have used and personally recommend coinbase.com and coin.mx for buying BTC with my debit card.


Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: coins4meh on April 26, 2014, 06:12:17 AM
Some places have ATMs installed already


Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: pandit on April 26, 2014, 07:34:45 AM
due to charge back nature exchange always prefer wire transfer over cc or paypal


Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: Soappa on April 26, 2014, 11:38:42 AM
Some places have ATMs installed already

But OP mentioned already that there is no ATMs near him.

We dont have a BTC ATM here (yet).
Im in New Zealand and Auckland is the only place with a Bitcoin ATM.
Besides i thought those ATM's took credit cards, but perhaps im wrong, i thought paypal was the issue for refunds, are there not any escrow services?
Its annoying for me because i dont have a US bank account.


Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: Rockefeller on April 26, 2014, 11:52:51 AM
Selling BTC with credit card.... is not a good idea if you are not looking to scam someone.


Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: ellegi on April 26, 2014, 12:14:49 PM
What exchange allows this?
If any such exchanges do this, whats the best rate?
I need some BTC as im wanting to invest in other altcoins.

i bought with credit card on btc-e exchange through payeer gateway, but the commissions are high and you have to verify yourself, but it works.



Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: CoinMKT.com on April 28, 2014, 10:01:26 AM
Because of chargebacks, this hardly every becomes a great solution.

If an exchange or place allows this... they might have some issues for longevity if someone scams them out of their BTC.
Treat Crypto as cash, and should be bought with cash.


Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: Harley997 on June 11, 2014, 01:39:37 AM
What exchange allows this?
If any such exchanges do this, whats the best rate?
I need some BTC as im wanting to invest in other altcoins.

You can use https://coin.mx/ (https://coin.mx/)

They have very low buy limits as they are at a high risk of fraud.

I think there are a few other sites that will sell via credit card but the prices are much higher then the exchanges as they are taking a lot of risk to be scammed.


Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: ShakyhandsBTCer on June 15, 2014, 11:16:48 PM
What exchange allows this?
If any such exchanges do this, whats the best rate?
I need some BTC as im wanting to invest in other altcoins.

You can use https://coin.mx/ (https://coin.mx/)

They have very low buy limits as they are at a high risk of fraud.

I think there are a few other sites that will sell via credit card but the prices are much higher then the exchanges as they are taking a lot of risk to be scammed.

Coinbase allows you to link you bank account and use your credit card as a backup if your bank transfer is returned NSF


Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: goose20 on June 19, 2014, 12:08:52 PM
What exchange allows this?
If any such exchanges do this, whats the best rate?
I need some BTC as im wanting to invest in other altcoins.

You can use https://coin.mx/ (https://coin.mx/)

They have very low buy limits as they are at a high risk of fraud.

I think there are a few other sites that will sell via credit card but the prices are much higher then the exchanges as they are taking a lot of risk to be scammed.

Coinbase allows you to link you bank account and use your credit card as a backup if your bank transfer is returned NSF

Yep, give coinbase a go OP.
:)


Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: ShakyhandsBTCer on June 20, 2014, 12:54:12 AM
What exchange allows this?
If any such exchanges do this, whats the best rate?
I need some BTC as im wanting to invest in other altcoins.

You can use https://coin.mx/ (https://coin.mx/)

They have very low buy limits as they are at a high risk of fraud.

I think there are a few other sites that will sell via credit card but the prices are much higher then the exchanges as they are taking a lot of risk to be scammed.

Coinbase allows you to link you bank account and use your credit card as a backup if your bank transfer is returned NSF

Yep, give coinbase a go OP.
:)
Ironically the OP would incur huge bank/NSF fees if he were to truly use his credit card to purchase from coinbase


Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: nzminer on June 20, 2014, 12:57:32 AM
Its all good, we have alocal exchange here called bitnz.com which has sorted out everything for me.  :)


Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: sukamasoto on June 20, 2014, 09:51:22 AM
What exchange allows this?
If any such exchanges do this, whats the best rate?
I need some BTC as im wanting to invest in other altcoins.
you should try to deposit via EGOPAY, and PERFECTMONEY PAYPAL,
using your credit card then you can deposit your money from some online
currency wallet which I have just mentioned


Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: sukamasoto on June 20, 2014, 09:57:45 AM
What exchange allows this?
If any such exchanges do this, whats the best rate?
I need some BTC as im wanting to invest in other altcoins.
;D I found a site where BTC purchase with a credit card
please visit if you are interested in buying BTC with your credit card.
not my affiliate link
I only intend to help your problem

https://indacoin.com/change


Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: asimoshe on June 20, 2014, 12:09:54 PM
i saw ATM's for BTC in some places, and i think that its possibale to buy with cash and also credit card


Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: nzminer on June 20, 2014, 09:34:53 PM
i also used igot.com


Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: Harley997 on June 21, 2014, 05:18:48 PM
i saw ATM's for BTC in some places, and i think that its possibale to buy with cash and also credit card

AFAIK BTC ATMs will not allow you to use a credit card


Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: ShakyhandsBTCer on June 26, 2014, 11:18:09 PM
i saw ATM's for BTC in some places, and i think that its possibale to buy with cash and also credit card

AFAIK BTC ATMs will not allow you to use a credit card
You can't, you must trade fiat for bitcoin or bitcoin for fiat. These type of ATMs do not accept any kind of cards


Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: nzminer on June 27, 2014, 01:28:52 AM
i saw ATM's for BTC in some places, and i think that its possibale to buy with cash and also credit card

AFAIK BTC ATMs will not allow you to use a credit card
You can't, you must trade fiat for bitcoin or bitcoin for fiat. These type of ATMs do not accept any kind of cards

I dont get how those ATMs pay instantly without conformation?
Obviously they would be a failure if you had to wait 10 mins for the first confirmation, so i expect they trust most people wont be ripping them off.


Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: ShakyhandsBTCer on June 27, 2014, 02:17:37 AM
i saw ATM's for BTC in some places, and i think that its possibale to buy with cash and also credit card

AFAIK BTC ATMs will not allow you to use a credit card
You can't, you must trade fiat for bitcoin or bitcoin for fiat. These type of ATMs do not accept any kind of cards

I dont get how those ATMs pay instantly without conformation?
Obviously they would be a failure if you had to wait 10 mins for the first confirmation, so i expect they trust most people wont be ripping them off.
If you are buying bitcoin with cash fiat then you simply insert the cash in the machine and the machine instantly verifies that the cash is legit, you provide a QR code for your BTC address and the machines sends the BTC to your address, the confirmation (of the cash) is instant.

When selling bitcoin, the machine will provide a QR code with an address to send BTC to. It will print out a receipt that you can later scan to redeem your cash once the transactions is confirmed by the network (with "x" confirmations). You would not need to actually stand/wait at the machine while you are waiting for the TX to be confirmed.


Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: nzminer on June 27, 2014, 04:33:45 AM
i saw ATM's for BTC in some places, and i think that its possibale to buy with cash and also credit card

AFAIK BTC ATMs will not allow you to use a credit card
You can't, you must trade fiat for bitcoin or bitcoin for fiat. These type of ATMs do not accept any kind of cards

I dont get how those ATMs pay instantly without conformation?
Obviously they would be a failure if you had to wait 10 mins for the first confirmation, so i expect they trust most people wont be ripping them off.
If you are buying bitcoin with cash fiat then you simply insert the cash in the machine and the machine instantly verifies that the cash is legit, you provide a QR code for your BTC address and the machines sends the BTC to your address, the confirmation (of the cash) is instant.

When selling bitcoin, the machine will provide a QR code with an address to send BTC to. It will print out a receipt that you can later scan to redeem your cash once the transactions is confirmed by the network (with "x" confirmations). You would not need to actually stand/wait at the machine while you are waiting for the TX to be confirmed.

Ok, that would make sense, but they demonstrated on TV the first Bitcoin ATM in New Zealand, he scanned the QR code with the smartphone and the cash came out of the machine almost instant!


Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: michaelwang32 on June 27, 2014, 11:38:00 AM
What exchange allows this?
If any such exchanges do this, whats the best rate?
I need some BTC as im wanting to invest in other altcoins.
BTC-E has such a feature. Fees are too high (if I am not mistaken) - check it by yourself.


Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: DannyElfman on June 29, 2014, 02:08:11 AM
What exchange allows this?
If any such exchanges do this, whats the best rate?
I need some BTC as im wanting to invest in other altcoins.
BTC-E has such a feature. Fees are too high (if I am not mistaken) - check it by yourself.
There are a number of websites that allow this but the price per BTC that is charged is very high and the amount you can purchase per day is low. This is not an efficient way to procure bitcoin if you have other ways of purchasing


Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: ShakyhandsBTCer on June 29, 2014, 07:42:33 PM
i saw ATM's for BTC in some places, and i think that its possibale to buy with cash and also credit card

AFAIK BTC ATMs will not allow you to use a credit card
You can't, you must trade fiat for bitcoin or bitcoin for fiat. These type of ATMs do not accept any kind of cards

I dont get how those ATMs pay instantly without conformation?
Obviously they would be a failure if you had to wait 10 mins for the first confirmation, so i expect they trust most people wont be ripping them off.
If you are buying bitcoin with cash fiat then you simply insert the cash in the machine and the machine instantly verifies that the cash is legit, you provide a QR code for your BTC address and the machines sends the BTC to your address, the confirmation (of the cash) is instant.

When selling bitcoin, the machine will provide a QR code with an address to send BTC to. It will print out a receipt that you can later scan to redeem your cash once the transactions is confirmed by the network (with "x" confirmations). You would not need to actually stand/wait at the machine while you are waiting for the TX to be confirmed.

Ok, that would make sense, but they demonstrated on TV the first Bitcoin ATM in New Zealand, he scanned the QR code with the smartphone and the cash came out of the machine almost instant!
They probably changed the settings so it will disburse cash when the TX is showing as 0/unconfirmed for the demonstration, but in practice all of the ATMs likely need at least 1 confirmation


Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: tspacepilot on June 29, 2014, 07:52:34 PM
are there not any escrow services?

Sure, if you are willing to have the escrow hold onto your coins for the six to twelve months until your ability to do a charge back expires.

Once you can no longer claw back the money, you'll get your coins. 

I'll do this right now for you if you want.

If the OP only want's the btc as a longish term speculation or some sort of savings, then this might not be a bad offer actually.


Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: CEG5952 on June 29, 2014, 08:51:22 PM
are there not any escrow services?

Sure, if you are willing to have the escrow hold onto your coins for the six to twelve months until your ability to do a charge back expires.

Once you can no longer claw back the money, you'll get your coins. 

I'll do this right now for you if you want.

If the OP only want's the btc as a longish term speculation or some sort of savings, then this might not be a bad offer actually.

That's rough, though. It's one thing to buy options, but if you are paying for actual delivery of bitcoins, that seems like an awful long time to wait. Just wire some money to an exchange or use Coinbase or something, LOL. That's just me, though.....


Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: ShakyhandsBTCer on June 30, 2014, 12:53:42 AM
are there not any escrow services?

Sure, if you are willing to have the escrow hold onto your coins for the six to twelve months until your ability to do a charge back expires.

Once you can no longer claw back the money, you'll get your coins. 

I'll do this right now for you if you want.

If the OP only want's the btc as a longish term speculation or some sort of savings, then this might not be a bad offer actually.
I am sure that vod would want the OP to (ironically) cover the credit card fees in this situation.


Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: ShakyhandsBTCer on June 30, 2014, 11:28:52 PM
You can use virwox (https://www.virwox.com?r=57ea7)

I've used up $2000 in my paypal credit card to buy bitcoin with it.

You use the credit card to buy linden dollars, then convert it to bitcoin. Then send the bitcoin to wherever.

There are daily limits to prevent people from charging back virwox but it gets lifted after 10 days, 30 days, and 60 days.

They're safe and legit and fast after they trust you (48 hours after account is verified).

https://i.imgur.com/QYD0cpj.png
Doesn't this essentially force you to pay rates that are much higher then what is available on exchanges?


Title: Re: Buying BTC with credit card?
Post by: tspacepilot on July 01, 2014, 04:52:43 AM
You can use virwox (https://www.virwox.com?r=57ea7)

I've used up $2000 in my paypal credit card to buy bitcoin with it.

You use the credit card to buy linden dollars, then convert it to bitcoin. Then send the bitcoin to wherever.

There are daily limits to prevent people from charging back virwox but it gets lifted after 10 days, 30 days, and 60 days.

They're safe and legit and fast after they trust you (48 hours after account is verified).

https://i.imgur.com/QYD0cpj.png

I've also heard of many folks using virwox.  I think there's a pretty big fee but I'm thinking that's par for the course if you want to use a credit card.