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Title: The crazy regulations that keep American beer bad
Post by: BBQcopter on April 26, 2014, 04:15:49 PM
I think is crazy to have regulations that are hurting american beer, what ya think???


Title: Re: The crazy regulations that keep American beer bad
Post by: Wilikon on April 26, 2014, 09:50:43 PM


you get Richer as the Older You’ll Get your beer bad.


Title: Re: The crazy regulations that keep American beer bad
Post by: counter on April 26, 2014, 10:36:21 PM
I think is crazy to have regulations that are hurting american beer, what ya think???

What regulations are you talking about?  I'm not very educated on this topic so any information you could share on this topic would be much appreciated.


Title: Re: The crazy regulations that keep American beer bad
Post by: sana8410 on April 27, 2014, 10:07:34 AM
If you think American beer is bad, then no offense, but you are obviously not an informed beer drinker.


Title: Re: The crazy regulations that keep American beer bad
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 27, 2014, 10:27:34 AM
If you don't like the American beer, then you can order either Dutch or Irish beer, through online services. They will be a little bit expensive though. But having tasted several brands of American beer myself, I don't find anything wrong with them. Could you please share what you found so bad about the American beer? Also which brands are you referring to?


Title: Re: The crazy regulations that keep American beer bad
Post by: Wipeout2097 on April 27, 2014, 01:05:18 PM
 I don't have a clue if American beer is good currently, but this thread isn't really about beer.

"Regulations" are the last thing that prevents people from being fracked. Rather have a beer that tastes like shit but hasn't it, than a toxic one that tastes good.

Those "crazy regulations" are (or should be) precisely of the same caliber of what you call "Rule of Law" when you see a criminal being brought to justice. They are a kind of "private sector" rhetoric which is still today (and surely was under Bush) even more dangerous than Obama's statism this thread is about. That if your federal government is corrupt and bloated and meddles too much, it is a different discussion. Private sector abuses and federal level abuses are not exclusive, both are wrong.


Title: Re: The crazy regulations that keep American beer bad
Post by: Wilikon on April 27, 2014, 03:03:59 PM
I think is crazy to have regulations that are hurting american beer, what ya think???

I think is crazy to have regulations that are hurting the unborn future beer drinkers, what ya think???


Title: Re: The crazy regulations that keep American beer bad
Post by: noviapriani on April 28, 2014, 04:09:34 PM
Some American beer is bad. If you're only experience with American beer is with national brands like Budweiser or Coors, you aren't trying hard enough.


Title: Re: The crazy regulations that keep American beer bad
Post by: Wilikon on April 28, 2014, 04:17:31 PM

Maybe the OP should switch to Indian Malta?
https://i.imgur.com/O48HsSV.jpg



Title: Re: The crazy regulations that keep American beer bad
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 28, 2014, 04:20:43 PM

Maybe the OP should switch to Indian Malta?

https://i.imgur.com/O48HsSV.jpg

What is so special with this?

http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/2349/5952/

Quote
It's not beer. Yet. If you have ever homebrewed or taken a brewery tour, you should know that this is pretty much exactly what a brown ale tastes like before it's fermented. Yes they added some molasses and other sugars but it still pretty much tastes like lightly hopped wort made with some brown and crystal malts in the mix.

 ???


Title: Re: The crazy regulations that keep American beer bad
Post by: counter on April 28, 2014, 10:21:39 PM
I don't have a clue if American beer is good currently, but this thread isn't really about beer.

"Regulations" are the last thing that prevents people from being fracked. Rather have a beer that tastes like shit but hasn't it, than a toxic one that tastes good.

Those "crazy regulations" are (or should be) precisely of the same caliber of what you call "Rule of Law" when you see a criminal being brought to justice. They are a kind of "private sector" rhetoric which is still today (and surely was under Bush) even more dangerous than Obama's statism this thread is about. That if your federal government is corrupt and bloated and meddles too much, it is a different discussion. Private sector abuses and federal level abuses are not exclusive, both are wrong.

Interesting points you made there and I fell a pretty good analysis of the topic.


Title: Re: The crazy regulations that keep American beer bad
Post by: Wilikon on April 29, 2014, 05:27:42 AM

Maybe the OP should switch to Indian Malta?

https://i.imgur.com/O48HsSV.jpg

What is so special with this?

http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/2349/5952/

Quote
It's not beer. Yet. If you have ever homebrewed or taken a brewery tour, you should know that this is pretty much exactly what a brown ale tastes like before it's fermented. Yes they added some molasses and other sugars but it still pretty much tastes like lightly hopped wort made with some brown and crystal malts in the mix.

 ???

A malta is a soft drink for the OP.


Title: Re: The crazy regulations that keep American beer bad
Post by: sana8410 on April 29, 2014, 03:03:25 PM
I think is crazy to have regulations that are hurting american beer, what ya think???

Wasn't there an article recently that said that Michigan now allows craft brewery to sell directly to grocery stores? and many German Beers were held back from experimenting with beer until recently I have never heard anyone complain that American made beers are bad, in fact most I have heard think Americans Make the best beers in the world even from Germans, French and English people and the one I met from Denmark.


Title: Re: The crazy regulations that keep American beer bad
Post by: Schleicher on April 29, 2014, 03:21:25 PM
and many German Beers were held back from experimenting with beer until recently
Yeah.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinheitsgebot
But I didn't hear any complaints about the quality of the beer.


Title: Re: The crazy regulations that keep American beer bad
Post by: zolace on May 01, 2014, 03:40:27 PM
These regulations suck, but it's not the regulations that keep American Beer "Bad" there are literally thousands of high-quality delicious brews out there. The thing that keeps American Beer bad is the taste of American beer consumers.


Title: Re: The crazy regulations that keep American beer bad
Post by: chowderman on May 01, 2014, 04:33:56 PM
I think is crazy to have regulations that are hurting american beer, what ya think???

You must be seriously misinformed, and never heard of the word microbrew. Basically most beers associated with InBev are mass produced and not of good quality, and those happen to be from all over the world and not just the United States.

It has nothing to do with regulations, its all about profit and not every brewery is working that way. Here is a list of American beers to try and enlighten you;

Dogfish Head 90 Minute Ale (120 Minute Ale)
Brooklyn Black Ops
Ommengang (makes a nice Belgian-American hybrid)
Goose Island Ale
Sam Adams Alpine Spring
Sam Adams Cold Snap
UFO White
Stone IPA
Backlash Death
Sierra Nevada
and the list goes on.

The mass produced market of cheap beer is everywhere, not just the United States...do a search on InBev and get a list of all the nasty beers you ever had, its run by them, not microbrews.


Title: Re: The crazy regulations that keep American beer bad
Post by: Snowfire on May 01, 2014, 06:05:30 PM
Just stay away from the high-volume cheap adjunct lagers and there is plenty of interesting stuff out there:

Dundee Irish Red
Wasatch Devastator Doppelbock
Highland Gaelic Black Mocha Stout
Highland Gaelic Little Hump Ale
Mendocino Imperial Stout
Double Dog Double IPA
Kannah Creek Crossed Irons Ale
Shiner Bohemian Black Lager

and lots more. The secret is to look beyond the big companies like InBev, MolsonCoors, and Miller; most of what they churn out is swill.


Title: Re: The crazy regulations that keep American beer bad
Post by: BitBlitz on May 01, 2014, 06:13:31 PM
They are not made bad by regulation.  There are just a lot of crap beers around because that is what sells in volume.



Title: Re: The crazy regulations that keep American beer bad
Post by: tvbcof on May 01, 2014, 06:31:06 PM
I think is crazy to have regulations that are hurting american beer, what ya think???

What regulations are you talking about?  I'm not very educated on this topic so any information you could share on this topic would be much appreciated.

Seems more like a troll-type post to me (and there is nothing wrong with that.)

I'm favorably impressed by American brewing as of the last decade or so.  In my area (the Pacific Northwest) it is almost impossible to find a town which doesn't have a micro-brewery, and most of them put out an interesting and high quality product.  I am a big fan of many of the products put out by Rouge, and my recent favorite (my being attracted to Imperial Stouts) is 'Yeti' (East of the Rocky Mountains, but what can you do.)  Of course it cost me $10/bottle, so it's good that Bitcoin has worked out as a speculative adventure.



Title: Re: The crazy regulations that keep American beer bad
Post by: counter on May 02, 2014, 03:06:54 AM
I heard that drinking beer from cans can be bad but never really looked into the facts for myself.  I do wonder the health effects of this however.


Title: Re: The crazy regulations that keep American beer bad
Post by: Catmoonglow on May 02, 2014, 11:51:33 AM
"Not a lot of things make me angry, but paying people do nothing because of dated regulations is one of them. I'm adding this to my "please let this industry die" list which includes:

Car dealerships
Real estate agents
Beer distributors"