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Can someone explain to me why each message has much influence on the decrease / increase of Bitcoin from China.
Indeed, there are many positive messages that do not have much influence on the value.
China has so much influence?

It's all just down to the level of panic selling involved. Obviously rumours from China seem to hold much more weight than others.

China has money, a lot of money. The spike in November showed us what China could do once they started gaining interest in Bitcoin and started buying like there was no tomorrow.

Some say, because China has bought a big amount of coins, they can now control the market a decent amount and they are the reason of the sudden price changes. Some say they own so many coins and want to own more for the future that they on purpose announce these "btc banned today in china" etc to make others (mostly panic sellers who daytrade) sell their coins when they think price is tanking so that the chinese can buy them off cheaper and raise the price again. Doing this several times makes them gain more and more bitcoins on a weekly basis. By "them" I don't mean all the chinese people but some of the big bagholders.

Best thing you can do with btc is to hold, in my opinion.

When prices were 1$ each, people that had bought in at 10 cents each probably sold and lost a big amount of coins, some maybe bought at 1$ and sold at 50cents cause they thought btc was dying, this way people who were controlling the market back then gained more and more coins.

BTC is a long time investment project for me, I won't be selling any time soon if at all (if btc becomes available as a use of payment for the daily basis).

Some say we have missed the "get rich quick" train a couple years ago, some say this is still the early days of btc. No one can know exactly, but I try not to look at the price from a day to day basis as it makes me stressed for no reason, since most of my coins are in a cold wallet anyway and I won't be touching them for a couple of years at least.

China has a lot of People, so there are a lot of potential panik-sellers directly influenced by China-Laws and since People know that the Price goes down, when there are bad News from China, there are also a lot of panik-sellers from other countries

Panik = Panic.

Chrome gives you an automatic spellchecker, by the way.

Blame panic sellers. Always their fault.

Because shadow currency trading is a trillion dollar market in China. When Chinese Bitcoin exchanges became popular, there were hundreds of chinese millionaires already waiting to pour in. These people have no knowledge of bitcoin fundamentals and simply bought in because it was another instrument to trade. Due to the sheer size of these investors, they were able to raise the price 1000% immediately, almost all on their own. I'd say maybe there was a 200% due to bitcoin developments and 500% due to China (200% x 500% = 1000%), so the price became artificially inflated by 500%. If China can no longer trade bitcoin in a significant volume, then the whole 'Chinese bitcoin bubble' needs to deflate. To say that China shouldn't move bitcoin price is like to say that the water should not flow downstream. None of the recent prices or price movements have anything to do with the fundamentals of bitcoin. It is all a sheer numbers game, where the numbers in the east were 10 times more powerful than the numbers in the west. . Bitcoin was the victim of a ferocious parasite.

OMG!  :o
Oh, no. I don't kare.

They finally should ban BTC in China so we can go forward... It´s like China is the new Gox, the new cancer of Bitcoin...

I continue to believe in the future of bitcoin.
Besides the bitcoin I think there are several coins have a longer life.
What do you think?
Give your opinion!
 ;D

panic rocks, buy :)

Because people overestimate the amount of Chinese bitcoin holders. Their only measure of adoption in China are the trading volumes which is ridiculous because chinese exchanges have 0% fees vs western exchanges which have more than 0.20%. They try to compare chinese vs western exchanges and conclude that there is a large number of chinese holders. However, the community rarely points this out and so I think people are just really overestimating. This is evident when BTC China raised their fees. Suddenly it looked like a ghost town. You can just look at this and decide for yourselves how overly exagerated the volumes are before BTCchina raised fees. https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/btcchina/btccny (https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/btcchina/btccny)

Is there a coinmap.org for China? How is the merchant adoption there? How large is the chinese bitcoin community and where is it?

You see, it is hard to tell and we could only look at the trading volumes which is extremely misleading. The bitcoins just go back and forth to the same people which gives the impression of high volumes and then people outside China think China is such a big player.

It may also be possible that the market is repricing the world of Bitcoin without the other 1.3 billion Chinese, approximately 19% of the world's population. The price is now down 62% from mtgox and China. Will it go any lower? Possibly but I doubt it will be further down. The numbers just don't add up.

The third point I'd like to make is that people attribute the run up to China when in fact there are more significant events that caused the last bubble. These include the "cleansing" Bitcoin gained after the Silk Road bust and the official US Senate hearing which was a huge event to clear up legitimacy of Bitcoin. All eyes were on Sen Carper which turned out to be really positive and then prices got really crazy.

Because China is wealthly nation, with lot of cheap Us dollars from their exports, and wealthy chinise financials can move the market.