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Title: Solo Mining LTC
Post by: thatonegirlt on January 16, 2012, 01:21:23 AM
So I recently decided I would try mining litecoins since I can mine them alongside bitcoins and not slow down my gpu. I downloaded the official client and tried to solo mine. All it says that it's started and then I left it running for 3-4 days and saw no progress (or high cpu usage) . Just about an hour ago, I tried the ScrpytMiner GUI with a litecoin mining pool and that works perfectly and says I'm going at about 17kh/s with 7 threads with about 80% cpu usage. I tried to solo mine again but I still see nothing showing me it's working with the exception that it said my speed was going at about 2500hashes a second. I read that at 1 difficulty it should take an estimated ~65k hashes to find a block so...

 My basic question is, with fear of sounding like the n00b that I am, can someone tell me if I'm setting up something wrong or is 3-4 days not a long enough time to find a litecoin block at that speed?


Title: Re: Solo Mining LTC
Post by: drakahn on January 16, 2012, 01:28:37 AM
it would take 22 days average to find a block at 2500hashes/s

3 and a half days at 17kh/s if you get solo to use the minerd.exe you use with scryptminer (not sure if possible, i don't solo mine)



edit



to mine, whether the pool or solo, first things you need are a client and miner.

1.
Grab the source: https://github.com/coblee/litecoin
Windows client binary: https://github.com/downloads/coblee/litecoin/litecoin-windows-client-40104.zip


2.
You can mine the coin by using the default miner in the client. Just put "gen=1" in your litecoin.conf file.
Or you can use a CPU miner. Currently, you must use one of these miners that uses Scrypt:
    https://github.com/Lolcust/Tenebrix-miner
    https://github.com/ArtForz/cpuminer - Fastest but experimental
Here's a compiled binary for Windows:
    https://github.com/downloads/coblee/litecoin/litecoin-windows-miner-10-10-2011.zip

3. litecoin.conf
You need to create a litecoin.conf file
with this content
Code:
testnet=0
server=1
rpcuser=miner
rpcpassword=litecoin

block_nTime=1317972665
block_nNonce=2084524493

#gen=0

#Change this if you want to use a different rpc port for mining
#rpcport=9332

#Only uncomment this if you are running litecoind (not Litecoin QT)
#daemon=1

and save it to
 Windows: C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Application Data\Litecoin
    Win7: C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Litecoin
    Mac: ~/Library/Application Support/Litecoin
    Unix: ~/.litecoin

4. Mining Solo
 in your windows binary miner, edit the 2threads.bat file to adjust to the number of threads you want to mine with
(Don't put more threads than you have core, think of it as dividing by zero, you house will vanish in a black hole) then run it.

5. pool mining.
Once you have your client, head on over to the http://184.107.145.244/ (http://184.107.145.244/) pool.
signup with your LTC address
edit your mining batch file (2threads.bat from earlier) with the username and info given to you by the pool.
mine
...
profit (slowly)


EDIT edited for typos and general morningness


Title: Re: Solo Mining LTC
Post by: BitcoinPorn on January 16, 2012, 01:36:11 AM
Make sure to get the latest optimized minerd https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=55038.0 .. I don't think there is anyone who hasn't got crazy jump speeds from trying out different ones


Title: Re: Solo Mining LTC
Post by: thatonegirlt on January 16, 2012, 01:43:50 AM
Oh okay I'll try to change some of my settings and see if that works. I'm not sure if I have all those files configured correctly.


Title: Re: Solo Mining LTC
Post by: Sherkel on January 17, 2012, 03:54:35 PM
This may be obvious, but why not a pool? I already earn upwards of 50 a day with Ozcoin's LTC pool at a steady rate; why is going solo ever better?


Title: Re: Solo Mining LTC
Post by: thatonegirlt on January 17, 2012, 08:57:09 PM
I'm currently testing to see which pool is better for me out of 2 pools and I just kinda wanted to make sure solo was an option. On a PPS pool I get about 13LTC a day and I haven't been on long enough on the PPLNS pool yet to see what that daily outcome is around. Just checking my options basically.

What's your speed that you get more than 50 ltc a day?


Title: Re: Solo Mining LTC
Post by: Sherkel on January 17, 2012, 10:17:49 PM
Used to be at least 50; now it's more like 40 (probably because of Ozcoin's now-gone 10 LTC bonus per block.) But with every CPU I use for it, I get a minimum hashrate of 50KH/s, and a max of about 56.
Still, there are miners with 100+ KH/s in the pool I use, so I think that solo is a bad option for a lot of us.


Title: Re: Solo Mining LTC
Post by: grue on January 17, 2012, 11:08:09 PM
litecoins isn't worth anything significant, and it's certainly not profitable to mine it on purpose, so why is everyone pool mining? take a chance, and solomine! trust me, the feeling of finding a block is much better than getting your daily 15 or so LTC. ;D


Title: Re: Solo Mining LTC
Post by: Red Emerald on January 18, 2012, 12:57:27 AM
Used to be at least 50; now it's more like 40 (probably because of Ozcoin's now-gone 10 LTC bonus per block.) But with every CPU I use for it, I get a minimum hashrate of 50KH/s, and a max of about 56.
Still, there are miners with 100+ KH/s in the pool I use, so I think that solo is a bad option for a lot of us.
What kind of CPUs are you using? The highest hashrate listed on the hardware comparison is the PS3 with 34. https://github.com/coblee/litecoin/wiki/Mining-hardware-comparison


Title: Re: Solo Mining LTC
Post by: Sherkel on January 18, 2012, 01:00:05 AM
Whoops. Meant all of them combined, not each one.


Title: Re: Solo Mining LTC
Post by: thatonegirlt on January 18, 2012, 08:52:18 AM
Hm weird. Considering on average it takes 3ish days with like a 20kh/s connection, I guess that makes sense that solo would maybe even out or be a bad goal for you since with the pool you're guaranteed your payout. Yeah I'm pretty much trying to figure out if I want to go with litecoinpool or pool-x. What makes ozcoin special? From their website I can't figure out how they do litecoins..


Title: Re: Solo Mining LTC
Post by: Sherkel on January 18, 2012, 10:17:33 PM
For a while they gave out 60 per block.


Title: Re: Solo Mining LTC
Post by: matthewh3 on February 13, 2012, 07:43:29 PM
Used to be at least 50; now it's more like 40 (probably because of Ozcoin's now-gone 10 LTC bonus per block.) But with every CPU I use for it, I get a minimum hashrate of 50KH/s, and a max of about 56.
Still, there are miners with 100+ KH/s in the pool I use, so I think that solo is a bad option for a lot of us.
What kind of CPUs are you using? The highest hashrate listed on the hardware comparison is the PS3 with 34. https://github.com/coblee/litecoin/wiki/Mining-hardware-comparison

Is that WiKi correct.  I'm getting 7KHash/s on a Pentium D 3GHz and it says at Core2Quad Q6600 only gets 5KHash/s. 


Title: Re: Solo Mining LTC
Post by: pooler on February 13, 2012, 07:52:13 PM
Used to be at least 50; now it's more like 40 (probably because of Ozcoin's now-gone 10 LTC bonus per block.) But with every CPU I use for it, I get a minimum hashrate of 50KH/s, and a max of about 56.
Still, there are miners with 100+ KH/s in the pool I use, so I think that solo is a bad option for a lot of us.
What kind of CPUs are you using? The highest hashrate listed on the hardware comparison is the PS3 with 34. https://github.com/coblee/litecoin/wiki/Mining-hardware-comparison

Is that WiKi correct.  I'm getting 7KHash/s on a Pentium D 3GHz and it says at Core2Quad Q6600 only gets 5KHash/s. 

Most of those benchmarks are relative to the original scrypt cpuminer by ArtForz. The current version of cpuminer is significantly faster, but not many people know about the wiki, and as a result the information on that page is now a little outdated.


Title: Re: Solo Mining LTC
Post by: MCWey8 on February 13, 2012, 08:36:52 PM
I have such slow hash rates that pools are my only option.

I've tried lots of pools but I keep going back to litecoinpool.org for pps ... seems i can never get enough shares to makes over 0.00048442 (current rate) per share.

I am only getting 12-14KHs

with

Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual  CPU  E2180  @ 2.00GHz - 5.7 KHs
Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual  CPU  T6400  @ 2.00GHz - 6.0 KHs
AMD C-50 Dual @ 1.00GHz - 1.36 KHs
AMD Athlon @ 700MHz - 0.4 KHs


average of 6 days for 50 ltc solo

4 days in random pools so far - 37.78 ltc



I probably should stay in a PPLNS pool for days to see if my shares go over the .00048442 PPS rate at litecoinpool.org, but I have only been mining LTC on and off for 4 days :P


Title: Re: Solo Mining LTC
Post by: thatonegirlt on February 14, 2012, 02:12:54 AM
I started off on the pps website you're talking about but I ended up making more on average at pool-x.eu. I'm averaging about 18khs and on litecoinpool I made about 13~14ltc a day and on pool-x I make about 20 per day.


Title: Re: Solo Mining LTC
Post by: ThiagoCMC on February 14, 2012, 02:14:27 AM
I started off on the pps website you're talking about but I ended up making more on average at pool-x.eu. I'm averaging about 18khs and on litecoinpool I made about 13~14ltc a day and on pool-x I make about 20 per day.

I'm sure that you'll make much more at Litecoin P2Pool!!  ;)


Title: Re: Solo Mining LTC
Post by: MCWey8 on February 14, 2012, 04:38:45 AM
is the reason for more LTC/day on P2Pool the gifts from random miners ? or will I actually see a larger average per share (over time since its PPLNS) ?

I pointed all my miners to Pool-X.eu , Ill give it a little while before trying to pull a average from there.


I think I have tried all pools now except for P2Pool


Title: Re: Solo Mining LTC
Post by: Rubberduckie on February 14, 2012, 09:54:12 AM
P2pool ftw ;D


Title: Re: Solo Mining LTC
Post by: g2x3k on February 14, 2012, 02:40:15 PM
just remember in all this diff is currently upgoing aswell :) take that into account when you doing your acgs and pools like pool-x vary due to luck as seen on http://pool-x.eu/blocksAuth

about solo mining in long run it shuld all even out until you get to point where you wont make few blocks solo before the diff changes then its getting hard solo mining

so go for what you feel id say :)


Title: Re: Solo Mining LTC
Post by: thatonegirlt on February 15, 2012, 06:07:53 AM
I'm sure that you'll make much more at Litecoin P2Pool!!  ;)

I would give it a try except I have no idea what pool you're talking about haha. Is it just called litecoin p2pool? Goog-ling it doesn't get me very far.


Title: Re: Solo Mining LTC
Post by: Rubberduckie on February 15, 2012, 06:38:19 PM
I'm sure that you'll make much more at Litecoin P2Pool!!  ;)

I would give it a try except I have no idea what pool you're talking about haha. Is it just called litecoin p2pool? Goog-ling it doesn't get me very far.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=62842.0   (linux)


http://pastebin.com/LF5LkDR0      (windows)




Title: Re: Solo Mining LTC
Post by: thatonegirlt on February 15, 2012, 06:50:17 PM
I'm sure that you'll make much more at Litecoin P2Pool!!  ;)

I would give it a try except I have no idea what pool you're talking about haha. Is it just called litecoin p2pool? Goog-ling it doesn't get me very far.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=62842.0   (linux)


http://pastebin.com/LF5LkDR0      (windows)




Thank you =D


Title: Re: Solo Mining LTC
Post by: Rubberduckie on February 15, 2012, 07:30:27 PM
no problem  ;D

LTC p2pool pays out well, just be patient to start with!


Title: Re: Solo Mining LTC
Post by: thatonegirlt on February 16, 2012, 01:34:45 AM
no problem  ;D

LTC p2pool pays out well, just be patient to start with!

Yeah, I'm testing out BTC p2pool and apparently it conflicts with litecoin's default port. Will the p2pool have the same problem, do you know?


Title: Re: Solo Mining LTC
Post by: Rubberduckie on February 16, 2012, 01:57:08 AM
no problem  ;D

LTC p2pool pays out well, just be patient to start with!

Yeah, I'm testing out BTC p2pool and apparently it conflicts with litecoin's default port. Will the p2pool have the same problem, do you know?

It does conflict. For Bitcoin:
     
    run_p2pool User Pass --worker-port 9335 --p2pool-port 9336
     
    Have your miner mine with IP 9335
     
     
     
    Litecoin:
     
    Just run with --net litecoin
    changing the bitcoin port fixes the issue
    make sure your rpcport=9332
 


Title: Re: Solo Mining LTC
Post by: illpoet on February 16, 2012, 04:21:09 AM
i know how you feel thatonegirlt, i had the exact same problem when i started solo mining litecoins.  the only way you know if the GUI is mining is in the lower right hand corner if you mouseover the pick it will give you a khs rate.  its really slow compared to other miners, especially poolers optimized miner that was mentioned in a previous thread.  its a very impressive piece of code.  I switched over to pooling after difficulty went up but it is very satisfying to find a block, with me it would take 5-6 days of constant mining although i got lucky a few times (once i got one in like 4 hours!)  another thing to watch for is that everytime you load up the litecoin it starts mining by default which will slow everything down if you are also running another miner.  welcome to litecoins and good luck!


Title: Re: Solo Mining LTC
Post by: MCWey8 on February 16, 2012, 04:52:55 AM
So i have given over 24 hours to Pool-x.eu
and I am very pleased with the results.


26876 shares
13.496 LTC

average of

.000502158 / share

guess I'm not going back to PPS :D

P2Pool im gonna have to try next :)


Title: Re: Solo Mining LTC
Post by: thatonegirlt on February 16, 2012, 07:48:43 AM
So i have given over 24 hours to Pool-x.eu
and I am very pleased with the results.


26876 shares
13.496 LTC

average of

.000502158 / share

guess I'm not going back to PPS :D

P2Pool im gonna have to try next :)

See it works well! haha. I'm trying to sort out p2p pool but I think I like the predictability of pool-x.


Title: Re: Solo Mining LTC
Post by: thatonegirlt on February 16, 2012, 07:56:43 AM

It does conflict. For Bitcoin:
     
    run_p2pool User Pass --worker-port 9335 --p2pool-port 9336
     
    Have your miner mine with IP 9335
     
     
     
    Litecoin:
     
    Just run with --net litecoin
    changing the bitcoin port fixes the issue
    make sure your rpcport=9332
 

You are a genius. Thank you.


Title: Re: Solo Mining LTC
Post by: Rubberduckie on February 16, 2012, 08:51:16 AM

It does conflict. For Bitcoin:
     
    run_p2pool User Pass --worker-port 9335 --p2pool-port 9336
     
    Have your miner mine with IP 9335
     
     
     
    Litecoin:
     
    Just run with --net litecoin
    changing the bitcoin port fixes the issue
    make sure your rpcport=9332
 

You are a genius. Thank you.


Glad you got it working! I got the info from the guys @ BTC-E as I had the same problem :)


Title: Re: Solo Mining LTC
Post by: nandika on March 15, 2012, 02:42:52 AM
woo
found my first block solo mining with LTC:) i was pool mining before, on litecoinpool.. ard ~50khash total, just pointed all miners to a litecoind on a vps, and i already earned 50ltc:) less than a day by the way...

3 bigger cpu's - ~20-22kh/s Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz, ~16-18kh/s AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 605e Processor, ~10-12kh/s Core2Duo 2.26ghz and the others are small, like 2,5kh/s is the max, making the total become around 50-55

By the way, found around 5 blocks on litecoinpool, but only earned ~160 total in shares, so I guess solo would be better for me as I calculated (5 blocks = 250ltc + 1 block in solo = 300ltc > ~160ltc +20ltc for the day i didn't mine for the pool = 180ltc)

i'll keep updated with my experiences:)


Title: Re: Solo Mining LTC
Post by: LoWang on March 25, 2012, 08:57:17 PM
So how are you doing Nandika? I have been solo mining for a week now and made some pretty good money :) Definitelly much more then the calculator predicted