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UPDATE: JANUARY 15TH, 2015: back on the forum, thread is outdated when it comes to individual HYIP's - advice still stands!

Asked a moderator about creating this thread since the HYIP community has made a huge presence into the Bitcoin community, but mostly in a negative way.

I've been playing HYIP's long before Bitcoin, but for the majority of Bitcoin's history they have been two completely separate communities. The HYIP industry is controlled by a few successful admins at any given time, but a scummy one or two have found a golden goose in the Bitcoin community by paying the right promoters, playing the right story, to push fancy ponzi games (a HYIP) that can't go the distance. There are admins that run great successful programs that pay for as long as possible like many do over the years and that's why there's lots of us that still play them even after all these years. I base my investments into HYIP's solely on the promoters I am friends with on Skype and the HYIP exchangers on Skype that exchange STP funds for admins to cash them out of STP.

HYIP's to avoid immediately for masquerading as legitimate companies, some completely disassociating themselves from the HYIP industry in the intent to scam even bigger than previous attempts. Bitcoin-Trader is at the top of the list

1. Bitcoin-Trader (http://bitcoin-trader.biz): This one is at the top of my list for avoiding now. They are trying EXTRA hard to distance themselves from the HYIP community, but that admin sure knows a lot about HYIP's to "not be one" haha. TOP notch HYIP script - shadowscripts (backend) that actually is also used by one of my favorite HYIP's that doesn't pretend to not be a HYIP. Uses all the usual popular HYIP accepting processors as well. You've been warned! This program has probably so far taken the least of all the programs on my list, but it has the potential to become the biggest and richest scam.

2. Btc-arbs TOTAL SCAM NO MORE PAYOUTS: I called this one out first on this forum after I saw Leancy rape this community as expected. Now of course it is scam, but I still mention it since there's lunacy of having hope in the btc-arbs thread.

3. Rockwell-partners (http://rockwell-partners.com): Sister site to Btc-arbs, exchanging massive amounts of STP for several weeks now. Making deals with STP exchangers to cash out larger amounts quicker. Downhill from here folks and so quickly. You've been warned!

4. Bitcofinancial TOTAL SCAM NO MORE PAYOUTS: Cheap imitation, likely a newbie admin trying to cash in on the BTC story like Btc-arbs and Bitcoin-trader.

5. mydailybitcoin: a lot like bitcofinancial - cheap imitation - stay far away - not being promoted by any power promoters


I think its great for Bitcoiners to join the HYIP community, but 1 or 2 of the admins are sure leaving a sour taste in people's mouths. I'll gladly discuss current ones I am in in private, and I only give out a referral link if you request it from me. I'll gladly discuss strategies and any new updates to this thread. I got a lot of hate when I posted the one pick I was in when I first joined, so I deleted that ref link and will no longer be promoting and linking. If you really want to know my picks and play HYIP's I can discuss them in private and if you want to use a ref link, I will only give it out if asked. I've already had people PM me and sign up not using my ref link and that is also perfectly fine as I use my own money to invest and choose HYIP's to play.

I have set this thread to self-moderated because there are some promoters obviously on this forum with the only goal of quieting those who speak against their programs and pumping the story and legitimacy of their shady programs. The bitcoin community is suppose to be of the most savvy tech people and being robbed of millions by the worst HYIP admins is not the way to go

I have a near flawless record in HYIP investing over the past year and over a 1000% return last year. Those who play the HYIP's above won't ever have similar results

Another great thread with some pretty good info on this forum by another user who has analyzed HYIP's: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=616767.msg6824497

Little update on: Btc-arbs seems to be doing selective payouts. Extremely selective payouts as very few people report receiving their payments. More than likely a stall tactic and to create confusion amongst their members and give false hopes while they bring in more funds. Typical tactic of the lowest kind of admin. The longer they can keep as many members off their backs as possible, the longer they can keep up the charade and take in new deposits. When people hope for the best, instead of screaming scam and causing a ruckus, this allows more time for the admin to get away with more money.

I'm devastated reading some people who have invested tens of thousands in bottom of the barrel HYIP's. PLEASE PLEASE do not ever spend more than you can afford to lose. If you can play 20K in HYIP's and lose it overnight and sleep at night, then more power to you. But My God, please do some research of high quality HYIP's that don't deny being a HYIP. It sickens me that we are seeing some scummy Russian HYIP admins that are at the bottom of the barrel of HYIP admins just continuously running off with millions for a few weeks / months of clicking a few buttons of payouts.

Calling it out now out of the programs being promoted as non HYIP games to the Bitcoin community. First one I called out was btc-arbs, next up is Bitcoin-trader. If you are going to play HYIP's stay far away from the ones trying to disassociate themselves from being called a HYIP.

As with anything people need to "invest"/"play" with only what they can already consider a loss. I recently got out of rockwell after their new youtube video, but not without growing my $200 BTC investment to $300 in BTC. I hope soon enough we stop seeing the posts of people losing an insane amount of BTC and just use a portion of their nestegg to grow or use for investments. I had also been looking at BTC-arbs, but did not invest as something did not sit right as well.

If you don't mind me asking how many HYIP's are you diversified in at any time to hedge yourself against any sudden collapses?

How do you explain your feedback then? I'm just wondering..

Congrats on the growth! Glad you got out of Rockwell as they are on the downtrend with their cashing out their STP funds. No one should definitely put large amount of Bitcoin into HYIP's unless they really know what they are doing. I have anywhere from 30-50 Bitcoin in HYIP's at any given moment, but I know what I am into.

I play HYIP's with a bit of insider information, mostly vendors who provide services to HYIP admins who I have befriended. I am only in two HYIP's currently since October of last year. Sometimes 3 but never more than 4 at a single moment.

My feedback does not correlate at all to the truth I have shared on this forum. I also have a near flawless track record on choosing HYIP's and I have been right about the accusations against btc-arbs I initially came on this forum with. I share information for no monetary gain at all.

Fair enough. Which programs would you consider safe then?

I can share names and details by PM where my strategies and information have took me to. I can discuss numbers privately as well. I do not offer any referral links either unless expressly asked for one. Even names of good programs in public here without any referral links have caused a stir. I want to dedicate the thread to the protection of the Bitcoin community, informing people who don't realize they actually might be in a HYIP, and keeping them out of the bad ones.

I'm not interested in discussing it privately though.

You start a thread saying "don't invest in them, but I'll tell you who to invest in private".. Yeah, sounds fishy to me.

Like I mentioned, my advice on what programs are good I will mention in PM without any referral links. My purpose is to protect this community from the worst. If you don't want to PM me then that is fine too. Just don't put any money into the ones I have mentioned here. This thread is to discuss strategies and call out the worst. My personal picks are not to be promoted publicly and discussed publicly either. If you want advice, I offer it free of charge in PM with no referral link offered unless you specifically want one from me.

Kleine, you can always PM and find out for yourself if it is fishy and report back here. I just ask that if you do, not to post the different HYIP programs I mention to you. I don't want to turn the thread into public promotion of different HYIP's without any other information to go on. I like to talk to people that I tell my picks to and keep a dialogue with them always open.

Just saw a referral link in a post for Bitcofinancial. It may be the beginning of a massive campaign into the bitcoin world. They may be ramping up advertising on bitcoin advertising networks, etc. Do not fall for it please. The admin is not trustworthy and they are trying to replicate the successful scam of btc-arbs.

I believe Rockwell or Bitcoin-Trader will be the next to collapse out of the big nasty scam sites targeting Bitcoiners. I am leaning more towards Rockwell. The admin of http://rockwell-partners.com - who is also the admin of btc-arbs is offering HYIP STP exchangers discounts to cash out larger amounts of STP into easy irreversible funds (STP to Perfect Money). Always a big red flag of an upcoming scam.

I am going to add a website link to this post so more people can see it through google.

I've been getting quite a few PM's asking me about Oil Rig Contractors so I thought I'd make a public post about it. I don't personally play "after 1 day" programs but I can offer some insight. If you choose to take these types of risks, don't invest in anything but the 1 day plans. It's common for those admins to block accounts when deposits mature in the 3 day, 5 day and so on plans that offer hundreds of percent in return. In particular this admin, his programs are hit or miss. His last one barely lasted one cycle. This one is more successful, but too chaotic for my blood and stability is not found in any ounce of this program.

1)  as a professional gambler I've long been intrigued by the social constructs behind HYIPs
2)  I understand that savvy humans can game this system for personal profit from the "investor" side
3)  yonce - it seems you know a *ton* about this world - do you mind debating the merits of these with me?  If not I understand this is your self-moderated thread, but the entire HYIP concept is simply fascinating to me.  My first question would be asking if you believe most "investors" understand that there are no underlying businesses?  Or do you think they buy the "arbitrage" line?  IMO the entire game is marketing - the more you market, the more the donks will fire - so your strategy of being close to the guys that market them is no doubt important.

I do believe most of the "investors" believe there is no underlying business, or at the least understand there's a game over point. A lot of the members are repeat players like me and many are part of big downlines of the power promoters out there hired by the admins. Some of these power promoters charge big bucks to the admins to always be included in their new program announcements. It is all marketing and the entire industry is controlled by a handful of people. I've come to find out all sorts of interesting things over the years about the industry; the acquiring of COMODO EV SSL certificates anonymously by HYIP admins from Skype vendors and the cashing out of Solid Trust Pay funds anonymously also by Skype vendors. With the right info and right people in your ear you can have a near perfect track record. There's always bad players at the game and there always will be.

The bitcoin dynamic has brought something new. Admins that are not part of the small group of repeat admins are launching programs where I do believe the majority of people are not aware they are playing a HYIP. We've already seen this a couple of times - leancy and btc-arbs being the two biggest ones to hit the community. Neither were successful for players. Seeing people completely decline my thoughts as false about outing those HYIP's reminds me of when I first started playing where there was complete blindness and people believed the business to be real with every ounce of their being.

I agree with you Yonce. I hope "investors" know that there is not an underlying business. I recently started playing HYIP's becasue they are absolutely fascinating to me, but never staying in long enough or putting in large sums of BTC that would over leverage myself. I am actually going to be taking your advice and withdrawing funds from another I am currently in and moving them to another. I look forward to your updates and your insight on HYIP's.

Good Luck! I'll keep updating!

Just giving you an update on my end just withdrew .77166 BTC took two minutes and had deposited .63 so nice little .14166 BTC over 3 days isn't to bad I guess. Looking into your choices for right now and hope to get your referral links soon via PM. Thanks again Yonce!

Congrats!!

Added mydailybitcoin to the list.

Haven't discussed this, but someone brought it up to me in a PM and thought I would share. If a HYIP publicizes stats like we have a million in deposits and such and such in payouts, good chance they are not telling the truth. The HYIP's with truly millions in deposits and millions hundreds of thousands in payouts don't publicize it. Be extra cautious when short term sites advertise their stats - don't believe those stats.

Forgive me but this whole thread strikes me as odd.

The OP is "warning us" to stay away from what he deems hyip companies but then offers to share his list of trustworthy hyip businesses but only via private message.

btc-arbs is an easy one, but where is the evidence on the others? I don't know enough about any of them to say one way or the other but my attorney father in law would call that slander and defamation.

I had a pyramid scheme guy once warn me about all the pyramid schemes as well. Then he tried to sell me his pyramid scheme.   

It may strike you as odd if you don't play HYIP's or know a thing or two about them. I'm guessing the pyramid scheme guy had money to make off you if he was trying to sell you one. These "companies" are free to take up an attorney (lol), but that would require them opening up about their identities lol. My entire list will come to pass. I tell people how the HYIP system works, and I tell them about ones via PM if they want to hear about them. I purposely do that via PM and don't offer referral links to show people I am not trying to pump up certain HYIP's for a commission. I don't need to sell any one. I do feel obligated though to protect the Bitcoin community and the value of my own Bitcoin.

Btc-arbs an easy one? Was raked over the coals for calling that one out and look how poorly it ended and so soon. Well hindsight is always 20/20 isn't it?

Interesting Rockwell Partners Solid Trust Pay account got suspended for a day or two. Might have been trying to cash out funds a little too quickly. But during that short suspension they already had a new account accepting new deposits. I already sense the oncoming crash of this program.

Yonce - tyvm for your detailed response above.

A few more questions if you don't mind (and once again tytytytyty for being so open about it, I have never heard the rational viewpoint on these until you)

1)  Did the liberty reserve debacle kill you guys?  Is that akin to the Neteller or Full Tilt debacle?  or "black friday" to us online poker players?

2) This "Soild Trust Pay" seems to be the currency of HYIP, although you bet your ass it's moving to bitcoin when they see how easily and freely they can pwn the /gambling section and how many idiots will send them coins immediately, no washing, no payment system shutdowns, etc.   ok anyway I read this:

NOTE - SolidTrust Pay does NOT accept adult, pharmaceutical, dating, gambling, firearm, tobacco, lottery or casino businesses of any kind.

and why won't this thing just get Liberty Reserve'd ?

The Liberty Reserve debacle didn't kill the industry because there were other players in the market, but it for sure lessened the money greatly in play for about 5 or 6 months minimum. The industry players for sure got real angry about the U.S. government shutting it down and majority of foreign players see the U.S. government as an enemy to them and their freedoms. Some intense conversations happened during all that with players on the forums. I'd have to say the addition of Bitcoin as a big player in the industry helped it recover a lot quicker.

SolidTrust Pay is something I do not know why it didn't get Liberty Reserve'd at the same time FinCen went after them. They do have some intense verification procedures in general and they have even cooperated formally with the SEC way back when over one site called Zeek and still went on with business. There's also been some new regulations this year in place for HYIP admin's having to also send all sorts of compliance type things - financial reports, corporate records to continue using them. So I guess it is somehow in the clear for now. The amount of programs that accept Solid Trust Pay have been reduced over the new regulations.

Bitcoin has opened up the U.S. market for sure along with SolidTrust Pay being the other major U.S. player for HYIP's. The other major processors have blocked American customers.

I'd have to say today, the HYIP market is bigger and more active than it was the 6 months leading up to Liberty Reserve shutting down. SolidTrust Pay and Bitcoin definitely are two big reasons for that. Many U.S. players did not even use Liberty Reserve and were not affected by the shut down. I think Bitcoin may even bring HYIP's back to some of the peak years of the industry.

Thought I would post, not going to specifically list every fly by night short term high yield program that comes by. But please save yourself some heartache and avoid them. The short term admins are sleazy and should be avoided. Unlikely you will ever see 1000% percent and above returns per year if you play them. The short terms admins are trying to fight for a small share of the HYIP industry - they don't control much at all of the 100 million a year industry.

yonce - again tyvm.  i'm fucking fascinated with the world of mini-madoffs...



I remember the "Zeek rewards" thing going super-viral then of course going boom.  I remember someone in my family emailing me the foxnews article recently:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/02/05/zeekrewards-former-chief-operating-officer-pleads-guilty-in-850-million-ponzi/

DAAAMN $850M

Was this clearly a more professional offering, but same basic HYIP heart.  Did you make tons from this one?  It seems like sharp HYIP players wouldn't have guessed it would blow up that big and got out early?

It is quite fascinating. I became even more so fascinated with it over the years as I delved deeper into the industry. I did not see that article on Zeek! Thanks!

I was in Zeek. Something very interesting about Zeek is they helped HYIP admins cash out STP funds in the millions a lot quicker during that time. The HYIP vendors that provide cash out services to admins from STP to anonymous funds were able to exchange millions a lot quicker during that time when Zeek was up and running. At the moment, it takes a little longer to cash out STP for HYIP admins. For a big successful program with STP, it can take 2 months to cash out.

I think one of the key things is when people go into HYIP's you need to go into an experienced group going in. I tried playing by myself in the beginning and got more messed up than when I began learning more, becoming more experienced, and building relationships with the right people. You have your HYIP players making six figures a year, repeat players making 5 figures a year, and many never more than 3 or 4 figures a year. I'm sure many of these players have no idea how admins cash out their STP or that it was even some sort of system. Digging deeper and building those relationships would help a lot more become more successful being a HYIP player.

Nice list man!
Thanks for advices about where to invest!
When i'll have some BTC i will invest a bit in a very stable HYIP!

Good luck wherever you invest!

So Bitcoin Trader now says I must have been the person to contact them to ask for a 10 bitcoin bounty to keep from bashing their program. Nice to know I am doing something right by garnering their attention all of a sudden. Funny though since technically they are the small fish of my list.

Not sure who it was on this forum, but someone not usually in my downline made a big deposit under bitcoin in one of the HYIP's I am in. Totally didn't have to, but I appreciate it whomever it may have been!

I am sure your work here is doing good and you are making money. thats not bad, you are pushing people into your systems. Its just funny, that you are warning people from a real company, which is not a ponzi. But hey, a real non ponzi dont need fresh money every day, right?

Keep on hard work!

a good list with most frauds, whatever topic you can find here:
http://www.badbitcoin.org/

Bitcoin-trader is a ponzi game. That isn't the reason why I warn about them, it is because of their elaborate deception. Also ponzi games are known for having supplemental incomes to the site and not just fresh money every day. Some admins use short term sites and pop them out here and there to supplement their main site they run. Some admins also do use user funds at times for other things to help extend the game.  One thing Bitcoin-trader shouldn't have done to create a better deception lol is use Chris at shadowscripts for their site. The script is built to run a ponzi game, many of us have seen the admin backend. I also don't push people into the programs I am in. I offer up advice and don't offer referral links unless someone asks for them. Many of the users here who I have offered advice to I have never given a referral link to. My main goal is to keep Bitcoiners safe from an industry that is new to them. My referral income has been great for a number of years prior to coming to this forum.

If you are playing the short term site, oilrig, have to strongly urge you to pull out any funds ASAP.

Admin is behind on sending out payouts as he is sick. Monitors still showing paying status and Facebook page indicates payouts after a slight 12 hour delay.

Sure they'll eventually disappear, all these sites do, but I think we can get another month or two.

If you make a deposit of $100 or more and you use my referral, I'll give you back 1/3 of your investment. I've made a killing off of this site, and compounding my returns.

I'd gladly help out those who build my referral.... shoot me a PM on here after you deposited and I'll send you 33% of what you put in. I will send only by BTC though, I don't use any other currency.

https://oilrigcontractors.com/index.php?ref=hyipmon

LOL. That admin has been pretty scummy from the beginning. ANOTHER MONTH OR TWO?!?! LOL. That is plain naive. And the admin is not behind on payouts because he is sick. The site will close this week. Also monitors don't mean squat.

Something I need to re-iterate, if you are going to play high risk short term HYIP's, don't ever play more than $1k in them. Also important to know most HYIP's will block large deposits, as very few are even capable of handling large deposits at any given time in the industry.

Congrats to those who got out of oil rig contractors when I told them to and got paid. Had a lot of people message me about oil rig over the past week. Don't ever trust a short term HYIP with more than a few hundred bucks.

Just got report Rockwell cashed out about $50k of its STP funds out the past week, you've been warned friends!

leancy-back.com  - scam claiming to be Leancy resurrected
oilrigcontractors-refund.com - scam claiming to offer refunds to those who were scammed one already
magicpaying.com - complete piece of shit site that doesn't pay anyone except HYIP monitors

LOL I can't believe someone has launched those. That was a typical scam years ago after programs died. Never thought I'd see that shit again. Wow.

Called it. Bitcofinancial is done. Called it out for the cheap scam it is. Gone scam quick.

Hope most of you did not get into bitcofinancial, a terrible cheap scam. Some people did message me about the program. Hope you were able to get out as much funds as possible. I need to strongly urge anyone in Rockwell-Partners to withdraw, withdraw, withdraw. PLEASE!

Seems my calling out of programs has attracted one of the admins into creating an account on this forum solely dedicated to discredit me lol. Glad to see that type of response as it means I am doing something right. I imagine the user is either the admin of Btc-arbs, Bitcofinancial or Rockwell.

I think that for the first month HYIP to participate may try, but not with a large capital you spend, if it was a profit immediately pull back, before you lose it all  ;D

Good luck with your strategy my friend!

NO! None of us do. Play HYIP's safely my friend.

For those looking into new HYIP's feel free to email me their names and url's and I can get back with you on any details I can find about the site, the admins and the risk factor. Some people already do this, but if you have a program in mind, feel free to PM me and I'll get some info to you.

I need to strongly urge against investment in Rockwell-Partners. There are emails floating around to people trying to get people to join and invest and also claiming Rockwell-Partners is legit and has been running for 3 years. Scummy tactics people!

"I believe Rockwell or Bitcoin-Trader will be the next to collapse out of the big nasty scam sites targeting Bitcoiners. I am leaning more towards Rockwell. The admin of http://rockwell-partners.com - who is also the admin of btc-arbs is offering HYIP STP exchangers discounts to cash out larger amounts of STP into easy irreversible funds (STP to Perfect Money). Always a big red flag of an upcoming scam.

Just got report Rockwell cashed out about $50k of its STP funds out the past week, you've been warned friends!"


WHERE IS YOUR PROOF???

Anybody can write anything about any company. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF???

Show me your report...Where is it? Where you getting your information from? PROOF PLEASE!

STP exchangers and power promoters is how I always come by my info. Rockwell has been cashing out its STP funds for quite a while now which is unfortunate as with a decent admin at the helm, it could go on for a LOT LONGER. The admin of Rockwell is also offering a better exchange rate for STP exchangers to cash out STP funds quicker. There are numerous STP exchangers on Skype who cash out STP funds for admins if you were not aware.

yonce,

How much $ do you estimate an average HYIP operator will typically disappear with?

There's just a handful of truly successful programs each year. I'd say the average admin closes with $50-75k. The industry also has ups and downs. There's always a couple (3 or so) though each year that break that million dollar point for sure though most good successful programs probably are still in the mid six figures range.

Rockwell-partners is my number one warning right now. Get your money out if you are playing it! The STP exchangers are overwhelmed with the Rockwell admin cashing out his STP funds this week. It's a matter of days to a couple weeks before it scams prematurely. They should be paying for hundreds of days, but sadly the admin has other plans it seems.

Have a new short term program to warn people about. Avoid it! http://profitable-markets.com

Avoid all the hyips because you will definitely loose all your money.

Inaccurate, but definitely true if you don't play lol. Kind of like abstinence leads to no sexually transmitted diseases haha.

Cryptory.com site is offline right now, but admin says it will be back shortly.

Anyone have any input on MyDailyCoin?

I've been with them since May 2 or so and they've been really good to me so far.  The two times I pulled all my principle and available balance, to Coinbase, it went through instantly.  Not even a 5 min. wait!  I recently reinvested EVERYTHING I had left ($300 in BTC) with them and when I pulled it a few days ago (the second pull of the two I mentioned), it was instant.  I reinvested just the "cream" (profit) from my investment which, between BTC's rise in value and my earnings, is about $168 right now.  So any loss (if they disappear) is not MY money, as it were.

There is very little info on them... almost no HYIP monitors track them.  They don't write good English in replies, etc.  Oh, and EVERYONE I tell about them, screams "Scam!  Ponzi scheme!  Don't do it!"  And, on one site, I believe it lead someone to report my website and get it frozen!  Had to remove my referral links to get it defrosted. :-D

I simply want to be able to put my money somewhere safe, but where it will earn a modest amount of interest/earnings over time... not like my Credit Union, where if I stuck $800 there (what BTC was worth at the time), I'd get 0.08%/qtr.  Yeah... right.  I could collect cans and make more money than that!

1%/day seems like a nice modest amount.  They've been perfectly stable so far.  They're not like those "Get 5000% in 30 minutes!" HYIP sites (of which there are a million of those and they're ALL The same!  Look at their FAQ... identical on every site!), but are they likely long term or likely to fail in months?  Their entry investment is just 0.001 BTC (1 mBTC).

If not them, then where?

I lost $5 over at OilRigContractors (10 day program)... don't want to risk more than that anywhere else that is one of those "Get rich in 5 minutes!" sites.  Are there ANY legitimate HYIP sites (even 0.25%/day would be ok with me, if the site was guaranteed to be around a long time)?  Are there any located/operated in the USA?

Is HYIP simply another abbreviation for "A Fool and His Money Are Soon Parted"?  Is anyone in business to help others make money and not just scam fools with lots of BTC and a pea-sized brain?  Or is the HYIP market simply one scam after another, no matter how little or how much they pay you or how they operate their site?

I'd like to think there is SOME hope... and not just "hope that I can make money off of someone else losing theirs".

I'd reinvest my money at MDC indefinitely, every month... but all these "sooner or later EVERYONE rips you off" warnings makes me worry about MDC, even though I want to think they're an honest, honorable site, helping me regain some of the $800 I lost in alt-coin devaluation over many months.

How can we know who to trust in this market?  Or is it just one giant shark tank and sooner or later EVERYONE gets eaten, if they're IN the tank, period? :-(

Hopefully this info about them means something:

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About Us
Who we are?
As an experienced group of traders, we specialize in the forex market. Recently, we expanded to offer our clients the option of investing on buy/sell bitcoins trade on MyDailyCoin. While our company is registered in the UK, we have traders located across the globe. Organized in January 2014, the company was funded two months later in March.

How it works?
With our Market Analysis Prediction Software (MAPS), we currently enjoy an 80% prediction rate. Additionally, we sell analysed signal to other groups.

However, our pure daily profit ranges between 3 and 3.5% on a daily basis. Since we never involve principal with a loss risk that is higher than 1%, there is no concern about a loss of capital. Even in a worst case scenario, the daily profit of the promised percentage is paid out from the surplus of the previous day's profits.
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They take 5% when you release (uninvest) your principle.  No other fees anywhere else, that I have experienced.  I have nothing but respect for MDC so far... I have no reason to.  I just wish I could stop worrying that what other keep telling me, might actually be true. :-(

Luposian, I believe MyDailyCoin is just trying to capitalize on successful scams like btc-arbs and bitcoin-trader. Also to add, the site seems extremely sketchy. Be careful playing them.

Oilrigcontractors, I warned about as well as it was being run by a serial scammer.

after yesterday's downtime, finmutual seems to be back up and running today. Good news on that front.

Wanted to throw some info out there based on some posts. Please do not invest in any of the two sites I am in without contacting me or someone else who has an established downline in these programs. There is a lot of power in being part of a strong downline when playing HYIP's.

I love to play with Ponzi's

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LOL ok. If you call today, I will give you the free guide to life's riches at no EXTRA COST!

Some advice for new players, always participate in a program in a downline. The group way of going into programs is a better way of going into programs and succeeding. There is power in numbers. This is a good way for you to avoid losing out on some payouts in the case a program begins to selectively payout. When programs do selective payouts and you are alone in a program, you are less likely to get selectively chosen for payouts.

I have withdrawn my main investment with Rockwell upon your advice. I had made $1000 profit, so I come out in front, assuming this withdrawal is as seamless as all my others (profit withdrawal).

I also found in this in my travels. A bad list at badbitcoin.org http://www.badbitcoin.org/thebadlist/index.htm

thanks for the link! Congrats on the profit! Always a sweet taste.

Just an update. Money withdrawn from rockwell seamlessly. About 4 hours after each withdrawal request my withdrawal was processed without issue.
Any updates on how rockwell is looking from your end? It was a sweet deal.

I've noticed finmutual.com is listed on badbitcoin.org as a site to avoid.

Congrats! I'll be checking in with my STP exchangers today or tomorrow and see what the Rockwell admin is up to. Looking at that link, it seems badbitcoin is against HYIP's, so that would make sense to see any HYIP listed there.

Thanks. I'd be interested in what you hear. Rockwell has been so good for me, I'm tempted to go back in for a few more days. Maybe I'm being stupid.

You're right. I've been tweeting with badbitcoin and their last tweet was:

Looking over at money makers group, people are still getting returns from Rockwell.

There's no way to tell exactly what day it will end, but the admin has bad intentions by cashing out his STP starting when the program is so young. You can go in and jump out, but the risk is high with an admin cashing out STP consistently on a daily basis for so long.

Oh still cashing out to this day? There's no case where people running these sites would cash STP but not plan on closing up?

Where is the best place to keep up to date with Bitcoin-acccepting HYIPs? I know of MMG and Talkgold but they seem more old school focused on Perfect Money, STP, etc.

It is really dependent on the rate of exchange. I have seen many admins exchange a few thousand here and there and not close for quite a few months. Difference with Rockwell and other admins who are planning their end game is the exchange of many thousands on a daily basis. When he hits his magic number that he wants, the payouts will stop.

Probably money-news-online and davidnews, better than the old school forums at least.

Click yonce in the left margin next to one of their posts to view this person's profile. Then click "Send this member a personal message."

Exactly. Natumanya, just pm me through this forum and I can also share my email address with you then so you can reach me.

The lunatic psycho admin of Oil Rig Contractors is now sending newsletters about me LOL after weeks of not being a paying program and still accepting new deposits scamming people. What kind of crazy admin has a non paying inactive program, but is penning newsletters to his members about crazy stuff lol. Someone hasn't taken their pills today. The absolute worst kind of admin there can be out there, scammed weeks ago now, and still accepting deposits and sending out supposed "warnings" LOL. Entertaining stuff.

Without question, let everyone know not to invest in Oil Rig. I warned people against the program before it went scam. I ended up defending a referral of mine who invested thousands in oil rig to have his deposit deleted. I went on the defense for him and the oil rig admin seems to have it out for me LOL.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=616767.msg6824497

Great post. Stay away from any program being promoted by that fake facebook / social media user "Eimra" all bad news with anything that person is promoting. Such a shame seeing people investing in programs like oilrigcontractors and leancy, run by the bottom of the barrel admins.

I'm going to add your thread to the main post of this thread.

I get a lot of messages asking me to investigate different programs. One kind of program in particular I always stay away from are short term programs (plans that pay after 1 day, 3 days, and similar). It'll save you a lot of heartache. Also if I do investigate a program for you, please only send me programs that accept solidtrustpay as one of their processors.

3. Rockwell-partners

This has been paying me like clock work but I know I don't think it has much longer to go as its been running for a fair amount of time now since May and still paying out as had 2 payments yesterday both STP and BTC

It is still paying, but they have been in a long phase of cashing out their STP funds, which is why I don't recommend the program to new investors. Hard to tell when they'll stop since they began cashing out STP funds quite early, but if I was to guess max time frame is within a couple weeks. With their popularity though, if the admin wasn't so greedy, he could surely make the program last 4 or 500 days like some of the great HYIP's I have seen over the years.

Agreed  normally last for a few days at the most and then make another and repeat and continue the trend. Then come across some good ones like this but even still they never last longer than 6 to 8 months at the most and even if they last that long its a big IF. Just like the days of 12dailypro 12% daily for 12 days it got so big was all over cnn news and many other places and then the government intervened with it classed it as ponzi and closed them down yet they where paid to surf and advertising a bit like PTC world but a little different and ended up getting closed down and then some.

The HYIP industry still sees a handful of programs that last more than one year. I've been in numerous ones over the years that have lasted about 2 years. One I am in now is almost a year old and the other is already at past 220 days already. All dependent on what kind of program it is and whose behind the program. Rockwell should be able to easily last a year, but it is not going to be happening with their cashout strategy of STP funds. Just not happening.

I was in a program called Royalty7 not too long ago that was paying 7% daily and lasted for MONTHS and MONTHS. Rockwell should have no problem lasting a year, but it just isn't going to happen because of the admin's greed and shooting for a cash grab.

One piece of advice I have for everyone is to join a downline when going into a program. You'll get more payouts that way for sure when the program starts winding down.

crazyearner, how long have you been playing HYIP's? I think you are the first person I have run into the bitcoin community here that knows anything about the older big ones.

Normally people are exposed to them. Obviously I have a downline group I run and we all invest into sites together. Paul at money-news-online.com is also a great guy.

Really the point of a good downline is a "group mentality". If an admin starts to close his program down and starts to selectively choose people he pays, those in group downlines are more likely to receive more payouts than people joining programs alone. This is when a worst case scenario begins to happen for a closing program. There's power in numbers whenever I tell people about downlines. Some downlines are more powerful than others.

Since btc-arbs was a ponzi game that disassociated itself from being a ponzi, I am putting together information on the btc-arbs admin as a plan B to the refund scheme he is supposedly doing. I have a complete hate and disgust for bitcoin scams like btc-arbs. If you have any useful info about the btc-arbs admin, please PM me even if you think it is info I may already have accumulated.

When it comes to individual program strategies, feel free to drop me a PM and we can discuss whether a particular program is a good fit for you or if you need something else. That's a mouthful of a question and needs a one on one discussion so we can see where you stand and what your goals are. My personal opinion is both programs in my signature are great, but strategy wise going into my downline we should discuss one on one.

You may know the story of StudioTraffic as well, it's also an autosurf program which is even more well-known than 12D Pro.

By the way, I came to this thread from google search on the term of "rockwell partners".

Been a hyiper since 2006, from my point of view, it does not make sense to discuss which hyip admin is scammer or theft, coz we all know that all HYIPs will turn out to be scams sooner or later, that's the nature of Ponzi schemes. 

What a hyiper should do is to try its best to earn some bucks from these scams, while the no.1 golden rule is "fast in, fast out".

I am not sure if this is meant to be posted here, but I thought it was important to get the info out, it looks like Davies Donald has stopped paying. Early days, but seems like it.

More info: http://www.davidnews.com/2014/06/from-potential-blockbuster-till-scam.html

Any info and discussion is great Dave!

Rockwell Partners has been a scam now.
http://www.investspot.biz/9258-rockwell-partners-sa.html

FinMutual has unfortunately turn into a scam also.  I was about to deposit into this hyip. thank goodness I didn't. http://allmonitors.net/hyip/finmutual.com/

I'm optimistic at least for the moment. Very odd for a big long term paying program to go scam in a matter of hours. See how the weekend turns out.

sad that Rockwell went down...invested the min. when they first came online...received my initial investment back along with about .25 Bitcoin in profits; I know, not much, but it was fun while it lasted  ;D

I am so glad I saw this. I was going to jump into rockwell. Yonce I sent you a p.m. Would really like  to learn how to play.

I was coming here to ask about thoughts on FinMutual (and Rockwell) going scam. So you still think there is a chance for the ship to straightened?

http://money-news-online.com/blog/2014/06/20/20062014-daily-news-hyip-industry/

I think as of now it is safe to say Rockwell and finmutual are both scam's and done. Hopefully into a new site in the next few weeks!

Cryptory is very much like bitcoin-trader but based on mining instead of arbitrage.

Both are low earners but makes them more viable long term.

Edit: that is if you believe they are not just ponzi schemes.

Its gambling man.You have risk in the world of gambling.But so far Cryptory is paying all properly.

Yonce, where have you gone? You seem to have gone very quiet since Finmutual collapsed.

I find it weird that the man who claims to knows all about HYIPs and has numerous 'industry' connections didn't see this coming.

I was also thinking the same.He claimed he has links and can keep his referrals safe,so how did this happen?

Anyway now Cryptory is the program which seems to be standing and paying users.

Love your double standards Yonce.

As soon as there was a whiff of problems at other HYIPs that you didn't push such as Rockwell & Btc-Arbs you jumped on the opportunity to call them out for being scams (and rightfully so!) but when there were indications that Finmutual was finished, which started as early as the 17th of June (not in a matter of hours as you claim), you failed to even bring it up on these forums, and when someone did you basically disregarded it at first.

Hows that near flawless record going?

First and foremost my responsibility is to my downline, not to random people on this forum. If I don't speak to you on a regular basis over email or skype, then don't expect me to jump on here to immediately warn people about a program I am in that might be in trouble or not.

I warned about Finmutual on Sunday the 22nd on this thread. If you don't talk to me personally, don't expect me to banter about programs I am in if things start to go sour on a public forum. I have investments to protect and keep conversation private between me and my referrals if a program becomes unstable. The only thing posting publicly would do is guarantee my referrals and I to stop receiving payouts.

My last payout and recorded payouts from my refs were on Thursday the 19th of June in Finmutual. It was a matter of hours at least for my refs and I. For a program that paid for almost a year, it shouldn't have stopped paying in a matter of hours. And it was cold turkey. Big and small. A program of Finmutual's size should have had a period of selective payouts long before it stopped paying. No idea what happened to Finmutual, but is dead now, but did well for me. On the other hand, Rockwell and Btc-arbs paid for between 3-4 months each. They were both crap HYIP's run by admins not intending to go the distance.

My near flawless record is fine, thanks for asking.

As of now the only program me and my downline are in is Cryptory. The world cup has been in full swing and its a dead zone of the year of the HYIP industry. Maybe log off for a bit yourself and it might ease your mind.

More than likely when they stated it was hacked, it probably was. No long term program I have ever been in thats paying for almost a year that I can remember of stops paying cold turkey.

Yes Cryptory is the only program I now recommend and that is unlikely to change for the next little while. It's a lower yield program, so if you are looking for something different hit me up towards the end of summer maybe.

But I don't recommend any investing in any program to people who I don't speak to over skype or email. My responsibility is to my downline members, not to the forum.


Lets try and stay on topic after this versus insulting and arguing back and forth. Henceforth those posts will simply be deleted.

I would warn people on a forum if I know something. Just saying. I don't have many downline etc though. I'm more an individual investor.

I would have to argue Rockwell was the best for 2014 so far. Many are claiming that and I can't argue even though I lost some in the end I still made a profit.

I don't know if this is off topic, but Fortunesup has been paying me very well. It's a shot term program so be careful.

That is why I recommend everyone to be part of a downline. If your looking for a public forum to give you the latest advice down to the minute, you will probably just end up losing your shirt playing the game. Glad to hear fortunesup is working for you. I don't play short term programs generally though. I'd have to disagree on Rockwell being the best of 2014. It lasted what? 3 months and some change? Breaking the 100 days online mark to me is not a success for a mid yield program. A far cry from a blockbuster. I would agree though they probably had the best marketing strategy of 2014, but that seems to be the case with most of the quick rise to the top programs and a swift collapse.

FYI, world cup time is statistically a pretty dead period for the HYIP industry. The Summer as it is things slow down, so I don't expect the next big thing to launch for a while. The world cup adds to that dead period even more.

If anyone still wants to make money in this dead period,than Cryptory is the best choice now.It has been here for quite some time and still paying flawlessly.

Let's try and avoid pumping Cryptory please. They don't add much to the conversation.

I don't condone any pumping of a HYIP. I have and never have pumped a HYIP blindly. Always seek advice on HYIP choices and don't join one by yourself. Join as a group and in a downline. Never base HYIP decisions off just forum posts. Conversing with people invested in programs and joining a downline is the way to go. You'll always be one step behind if you play HYIP's by yourself just off what you read online.

 This thread is only for discussion. No accusations, insults, useless banter will be accepted bottom line. That includes all you ex-HYIP admins creating accounts to detract here.

No accusations allowed in this thread, with the exception of Yonce. This goon has accused me of being an ex-admin of one these shitty websites (I live in Australia; could there be anything stupider than starting up a HYIP in a country that will rigorously prosecute anyone involved in these types of operations?) without a shred of evidence because I asked some questions about his inconsistent actions.

Sure send me over your concerns and I will address them. But I am not going to do a back and forth in this thread of an off topic discussion with inflammatory language on either of our parts.

Thought I would mention, please now avoid investing in Cryptory. Thought I would post. It is still paying, but there's been some funny issues going on here and there that I can no longer recommend anyone into it.

I agree with that. They have bitcoins of mine that I haven't been able to withdraw for two weeks now. And not earning a cent for those two weeks too, just stuck in "Pending"

oh wow, that is much longer than my bitcoin deposit. Definitely no one should add any more funds.

Cryptory time is over now like another scam hyips . so don't take the risk of investing money in it . I tried to open yesterday so many times but it didn't open on my browser I think the admin is not handling money flow on site right now and wants to leave the market so be aware don't invest any new deposit in it :P

Yes. Don't get into Cryptory people.  :o

What do you mean "another scam hiyps?" they all turn into scams eventually. Take money from people to give it to the people that "invested" before. They have to run out of suckers money eventually.

Um...update your sig, Yonce :P

So is there anything good that's going to be coming up? I'm looking to do something with some cash from revenue sharing I received through purchasing ad packs. Advertising sites seem to be a little bit more stable than HYIP sites but the earnings are very slow.

IMO bitcoin-trader is the way to go. They have convinced me they are for real with their sponsoring of bitcoin events and the current bitcoin car making it's way around North America.
https://twitter.com/BTC_Trader

badbitcoin.org is on the fence about them last I asked them. Badbitcoin.org says https://cex.io and https://scrypt.cc/ are the only sites they trust.

btc.sx is there if you are into derivatives trading

Finally the site is down now ! one more scam HYIP go from market with investors money :P . so many people earn in Cryptory but most of people lose their huge amount of BTC :P because of prediction of long term :P

keep your eyes peeled for HYIP's, August is a hot bed for new quality launches of HYIP's.

Haven't looked at either, but I'll check them out.

At face value, BitEmpower looks the better of the two and better option just at face value.

My downline and I are in no programs currently. I'll look more into BitEmpower. I have been on the lookout for 1 or two solid picks over the last 2 weeks or so. I'll be joining something soon surely.

these days I am playing in genial-stock . The program is paying me daily instant withdraw. now I am in profit because I started this program from beginning and also have lots of referrals here . Admin tell us he will survive this program for the long term . I think it's possible because ROI is low 120% in 20 days . I hope I will rock here for long time :) . Most important thing is we can recover their loss of other site in Genial-stock .

Hard to say where the stable interest rate lies. It is a fine balance between the amount of money the admin is pumping into the program through power promoters and the daily interest rate.

I've been in programs that paid 8% daily for over 180 days.

Needless to say, I have heard of a new programing coming in the next day or two through my power promoter contacts. Should be a good one since the admin paid those hefty power promoter fees.

I think Emira and Dr Levine is a power promoter in online business . they charge high fee's to admin for promoting any program . But in the last previous months reputation of both promoter not so good because of so many huge programs got scammed like leancy, imparizia and Uniroyal chemical . I choose Genial-stock because good ROI and both paid promoter do not involve in this program Smiley

Eimra and Dr Lieven have lost status as "power promoters" for a long time. I never trust anything they give to invest in. The real power promoters are not as public as Eimra and Dr Lieven posting all day long in Skype chats or website chats. That is why I NEVER invested in Leancy (I warned people about Leancy) and I never invested in Imparizia and Uniroyal Chemical.

If anyone is interested in getting my downline emails, PM me your email address.

Got the email of a program launch from my usual power promoters of a new program launch, the one I had been waiting for. You can drop me a PM if you want to be included in my downline emails. I am officially in one new program as of now.

I'm finally in a new program with my downline that I had been waiting for to launch. August is a hot month for the winners to launch. Started myself in this new program with 15btc.

I am still looking into Bitempower as a second option. Looks promising. Still need to do a little more research before I think about investing in it and recommending it to my downline.

FYI, trolling isn't allowed in this thread. Preferably, be an idiot offline in your mother's basement or something like that.

This thread is free discussion for anything HYIP related, nothing else.

can you tell me something about your new program ? these days I am also searching of new program for investment . you know so many HYIPS comes in the market and scam sooner . I don't want to waste my money on short term scams . I know no one HYIP is stable in the market but some work for a long time and gives us enough time to earn a lot from that project .

True, hard to separate the crap from the good programs. I'm in btclegacy and sparbs right now. Feel free to PM me, and I can share my personal contact with you.

I see your program it is paying 5% daily and we can withdraw our principal any time . It means we earn 150% pure earning per month . how its possible when I talked to my friends about this program .they told me who is admin how he/she is paying us this huge ROI .
if it is Ponzi then how admin will stable this program for the long term .

HYIP's are Ponzi's. They are all a gamble. HYIP's pay for weeks to months to years depending on the ROI, quality, admin, momentum. I was in a program that paid 7% daily once for 5 months.

HYIP market is really ramping up. Btclegacy, the program my downline and I got into last week is already #2 on MNO.

younce  :D this is a symptom of scam  I know BTC Legacy scam soon and scam investors  money

"We incurred another massive DDOS attack against our website. We deeply apologize for this. The site should be operational for everyone now and we received the following message and apology from BlockDOS during the mitigation of the attacks:

"First of all we apologize for the inconvenience you have faced. The issue is fixed now. We put your site on extra protection layer and everything is in control now."


If you have any issue with access to the website, please respond to this email with your IP address.

Thank You so much for your patience during these massive DDOS attacks against our website."

DDOS attacks are not symptoms of a scam. They are symptoms of a scam when the site doesn't pay withdrawals after it comes back online lol! The site pays every withdrawal after each DDOS attack. All my withdrawals have been paid and my downline too after each DDOS attack. DDOS attacks happen every day with HYIP's, especially popular ones. I have had three withdrawals paid to me in the last 48 hours during the course of several DDOS attacks they went through. Nothing unusual and working smoothly. Jealous admins trying to take BTC Legacy down.

you are saying right but my experience in HYIPS I see most of admin use this cheap trick before scam their investors' money that's why . hope you will earn here lots like cyptory and Finmutual nobody will lose their money in it :P hope admin will stable here for 4-5 months minimum I think it's sufficient time for earning :P

Well usually what you mean is the DDOS takes the site offline long enough to where the program destabilizes. They aren't tricks, but just meant to take down sites and cause them to crash for good. Experienced admins can handle that and continue paying after they get back online. My assumptions were right and btclegacy is still paying smoothly and growing. The fact that they kept paying after heavy DDOS attacks for like 3 days is extremely remarkable and a rare thing with HYIP's.

BTClegacy is a scam

True, my last payout has gone past their 48 hour time frame. Site is dead.

Bump !
HYIPS are game you have to play this for FUN as Gambling :)
cryptcominer is waiting for those who like to play with HYIPS:) don't invest those people who can't afford loss :)

I'm not a fan of cryptcominer unfortunately. They use a previously used template and script is of standard poor quality.

Cryptcominer is great, i take my profit daily

I don't care about template and script . The site is paying good money to their investors sincerely. I am enjoying daily earning with good project :) last time I think you and I talked about the BTC legacy that you was sure about that project but no more in market :) . but I know one you joined that project from starting I am sure you earn good in BTClegacy

Bump!
HYIPS are scam!

Came back to the forum after hearing about one forum ponzi closing with tons of funds! Shocked that people would have put so much into one of the many as I see continuing ponzi games for Bitcoin. Don't really see why people are so attracted to these fly by the night forum ponzi's when there's an established HYIP industry that is a little more predictable.

This one has been paying 51 days tried $50 and its paid every hour so far will advise if it pays all 33 hrs but if you want to risk it <a https://hourlyweb.com/?ref=blackcrow>

Well, ETH Revolution - ethrevolution.io - is quite honest. The contract does pay

Agree. I invested 1 ETH 3 days ago, got dividends already