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Bitcoin => Mining speculation => Topic started by: gallery2000 on April 30, 2014, 03:20:12 AM



Title: difficulty jumped another 14.6%
Post by: gallery2000 on April 30, 2014, 03:20:12 AM
Is 14.6% jump in difficulty good or bad?  I want it to be negative 14.6%.  How do I do that?


Title: Re: difficulty jumped another 14.6%
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on April 30, 2014, 03:21:28 AM
Shift the miner into reverse and put a brick on the accelerator.


Title: Re: difficulty jumped another 14.6%
Post by: pabpete on April 30, 2014, 03:21:56 AM
Go to a dice rolling site xD


Title: Re: difficulty jumped another 14.6%
Post by: gallery2000 on April 30, 2014, 03:25:02 AM
Shift the miner into reverse and put a brick on the accelerator.

My miners are all automatic.  I don't have stick shift.


Title: Re: difficulty jumped another 14.6%
Post by: hellscabane on April 30, 2014, 03:29:21 AM
Is 14.6% jump in difficulty good or bad?  I want it to be negative 14.6%.  How do I do that?
Well, there are ways to do that; very destructive ways that is.

I wouldn't though. Not a good thing to do.


Title: Re: difficulty jumped another 14.6%
Post by: durrrr on April 30, 2014, 03:51:52 AM
i think that everytime the difficulty goes up so does bitcoin because the more it costs the miner to mine the more the coin is going to be sold for ya know


Title: Re: difficulty jumped another 14.6%
Post by: Bitcoin Magazine on April 30, 2014, 03:54:34 AM
i think that everytime the difficulty goes up so does bitcoin because the more it costs the miner to mine the more the coin is going to be sold for ya know

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Title: Re: difficulty jumped another 14.6%
Post by: Jcw188 on April 30, 2014, 04:04:41 AM
i think that everytime the difficulty goes up so does bitcoin because the more it costs the miner to mine the more the coin is going to be sold for ya know

Wow.  What?  Just look at history, it hasn't gone up when difficulty has gone up.


Title: Re: difficulty jumped another 14.6%
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on April 30, 2014, 04:47:56 AM
I don't know maybe .... the last six or so difficulty adjustments?

What as difficulty and price on January 1?
What is the difficulty and price now?
Does this support or contradict your "theory"?


Title: Re: difficulty jumped another 14.6%
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 30, 2014, 04:52:12 AM
According to the Blockchain.info, the miners' revenue now stands at $1.85 million per day. It was more than $5 million per day, during December 2013. I think soon we'll be seeing sub-1 million levels. 


Title: Re: difficulty jumped another 14.6%
Post by: moug on April 30, 2014, 04:53:33 AM
a day ago Bitcoin charts said 260 blocks till new diff and it still shows the 260 blocks what's with that?
The diff should be very close to change to 7903017921 in 260 blks

If less hash rate happens then the diff will go down like all other coins, but BTC will be a little slower to react.
it resets every 2016 blocks?

here some meat https://www.alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator  8000872135.97
"Next difficulty retarget occurs at block 300383.0 (eta 12.0 days): 9372535642.19 / +17.1% [est.]"


http://bitcoincharts.com/ is showing wrong info. "Estimated   7903017921 in 260 blks"


Title: Re: difficulty jumped another 14.6%
Post by: Lauda on April 30, 2014, 04:59:18 AM
Is 14.6% jump in difficulty good or bad?  I want it to be negative 14.6%.  How do I do that?
I highly doubt that we will see a difficulty decrease anytime soon.


Title: Re: difficulty jumped another 14.6%
Post by: counter on April 30, 2014, 05:01:59 AM
I'm sure the difficulty going up isn't great news for a miner especially if they are on the shallow end of the pool.


Title: Re: difficulty jumped another 14.6%
Post by: moug on April 30, 2014, 05:16:48 AM
we do see the miners sale price decrease, they did get very rich if using fiat. or selling BTC before it dropped.

ebay:
Mar 05 antminerS1 $1250.
Apr 29 antminerS1   $336. or Less.
AntminerS1 worth ~26% or dropped ~74% in 55 days but it still makes ~$197.00 week gross.- power.

They are selling 1 TH units now for about same price as the 200 Gh unit price a few months ago
so your right the mining fever will not stop.


Title: Re: difficulty jumped another 14.6%
Post by: Dannie on April 30, 2014, 08:36:51 AM
we do see the miners sale price decrease, they did get very rich if using fiat. or selling BTC before it dropped.

ebay:
Mar 05 antminerS1 $1250.
Apr 29 antminerS1   $336. or Less.
AntminerS1 worth ~26% or dropped ~74% in 55 days but it still makes ~$197.00 week gross.- power.

They are selling 1 TH units now for about same price as the 200 Gh unit price a few months ago
so your right the mining fever will not stop.

The price drops are reasonable as the difficulty is increasing about 15-20% every 12 days.
3 months ago the difficulty was 2,193,847,870 and now it becomes 8,000,872,136.


Title: Re: difficulty jumped another 14.6%
Post by: skuser on April 30, 2014, 05:45:08 PM
I'd bet difficulty growth is starting to level off and the next one rise will be deeply under 10%. Some sites like http://nextdifficulty.com estimate even drop lol  ;D


Title: Re: difficulty jumped another 14.6%
Post by: iglasses on April 30, 2014, 07:00:56 PM
1 block: 10.1 minutes

Diff just changed but this is the first time I have ever seen block generation north of the magic ten minute mark.  Maybe good news for miners??


Title: Re: difficulty jumped another 14.6%
Post by: RoadStress on May 01, 2014, 12:34:41 AM
Where are all the old difficulty prediction threads?


Title: Re: difficulty jumped another 14.6%
Post by: gallery2000 on May 01, 2014, 01:55:54 AM
1 block: 10.1 minutes

Diff just changed but this is the first time I have ever seen block generation north of the magic ten minute mark.  Maybe good news for miners??

Which way is north?  Is that good or bad?


Title: Re: difficulty jumped another 14.6%
Post by: Speakeron on May 01, 2014, 08:19:01 AM
1 block: 10.1 minutes

Diff just changed but this is the first time I have ever seen block generation north of the magic ten minute mark.  Maybe good news for miners??

This gets mentioned pretty much every time there's a difficulty change. Estimates of the next difficulty are always unreliable just after a change because the calculation is being done over just a few blocks and variance can cause wild swings. It'll settle down in a few days.

As for the OP's question: the rise is good because it secures the network just that little bit more.


Title: Re: difficulty jumped another 14.6%
Post by: iglasses on May 01, 2014, 12:10:32 PM
speakeron totally agree but right now we are 220 blocks into this run and block generation is only at 9.9 and network hashrate is actually very slightly LOWER than it was at the last diff. change so that alone is unusual.
Hey a guy can dream right?


Title: Re: difficulty jumped another 14.6%
Post by: mikerbiker6 on May 01, 2014, 12:11:40 PM
Let's see who taps out first haha. Enjoy the ride down. ;D

Don't get me wrong, I like bitcoin and mining it,  but 2014 is going to suck for miners.


Title: Re: difficulty jumped another 14.6%
Post by: tins on May 01, 2014, 12:12:38 PM
Let's see who taps out first haha. Enjoy the ride down. ;D

Don't get me wrong, I like bitcoin and mining it,  but 2014 is going to suck for miners.


going to?
It has been rough already.  :-\


Title: Re: difficulty jumped another 14.6%
Post by: TookDk on May 01, 2014, 12:14:03 PM
1 block: 10.1 minutes

Diff just changed but this is the first time I have ever seen block generation north of the magic ten minute mark.  Maybe good news for miners??

I saw a +50 min block last week - it do happen.


Title: Re: difficulty jumped another 14.6%
Post by: Abdussamad on May 02, 2014, 12:35:00 AM
1 block: 10.1 minutes

Diff just changed but this is the first time I have ever seen block generation north of the magic ten minute mark.  Maybe good news for miners??

I saw a +50 min block last week - it do happen.

There have been blocks that have been found seconds apart and there have been blocks that have been hours apart. The software tries to enforce an average of 10 minutes. It doesn't guarantee that every block will be found 10 minutes after the previous one.


Title: Re: difficulty jumped another 14.6%
Post by: Mobius7 on May 02, 2014, 12:40:28 AM
1 block: 10.1 minutes

Diff just changed but this is the first time I have ever seen block generation north of the magic ten minute mark.  Maybe good news for miners??

I saw a +50 min block last week - it do happen.

There have been blocks that have been found seconds apart and there have been blocks that have been hours apart. The software tries to enforce an average of 10 minutes. It doesn't guarantee that every block will be found 10 minutes after the previous one.

Exactly. I personally have seen 6 blocks in 10 minutes and have seen no block in 2 hours lol. :D


Title: Re: difficulty jumped another 14.6%
Post by: Lauda on May 02, 2014, 08:17:29 AM
Exactly. I personally have seen 6 blocks in 10 minutes and have seen no block in 2 hours lol. :D
Variations are normal. We're still on track with block generation, a bit faster than expected though.