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Title: [LIST] List of suspected scam- and/or shitcoins - CHECK THIS!
Post by: shitcoins.info on April 30, 2014, 07:42:51 AM

Hi folks,

we from shitcoins.info are trying to inform/warn potential victims from alleged scam-/shitcoins.
We already are posting a warning message on there threads but the devs are fighting against us.
Yesterday LimeCoin [LC] moved to a new selfmoderated thread after we told the community that
LimeCoin was instamined (more than 85% of the total coins were instamined within 48 minutes after launch).

This just shows us that the dev is trying to hide this information and get more unaware miners/investors/traders
into the boat he and the early adopters can rip off...

Please check this thread regularily. We will post every coin that was premined, instamined and could be a risk for
miners/traders/investors (pump/dump). We also will list coins which are just copy/paste-coins with no innovation.



WARNING: The list below contains altcoins with suspicious amounts of instamined or premined coins and copy/pastecoins with IPO:


LimeCoin [LC] - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=589373.0
SCAMWARNING:
  • INSTAMINED
  • more than 50% of total coins instamined within 27 minutes after launch!!!
  • EVIDENCE: http://107.161.145.152:3333/block/a2f6bca523f494bca566c2851709daefbb9eb5749b300aaeae829ee9c144995e
  • more than 75% instamined within 48 minutes after launch!!!
  • alleged PUMP/DUMP coin!






Title: Re: [LIST] List of suspected scam- and/or shitcoins - CHECK THIS!
Post by: elviselvis101 on May 12, 2014, 11:00:43 PM
Interesting.
When I click the link you provide as evidence, it will not open ?
I know very little tech, but is it at all possible to mine 75 % of a coin in 1 hour ??
Can a tech person pls. de-firm or confirm this.
Cryptohunter.. anyone ?




Title: Re: [LIST] List of suspected scam- and/or shitcoins - CHECK THIS!
Post by: nagatlakshmi on May 13, 2014, 02:24:32 AM
Good Idea, which can help to newbies.  Great job.


Title: Re: [LIST] List of suspected scam- and/or shitcoins - CHECK THIS!
Post by: r0ach on May 13, 2014, 03:54:07 AM
Anonymous, one star posters don't have any credibility or authority over what is or isn't a scam.  Posting like that is just a tool for people to hype what coins they own, while calling everything they don't a scam.

But yes, of course Limecoin is a scam, every IPO coin is a scam.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=443196.0


Title: Re: [LIST] List of suspected scam- and/or shitcoins - CHECK THIS!
Post by: elviselvis101 on May 13, 2014, 10:31:11 PM
Anonymous, one star posters don't have any credibility or authority over what is or isn't a scam.  Posting like that is just a tool for people to hype what coins they own, while calling everything they don't a scam.

But yes, of course Limecoin is a scam, every IPO coin is a scam.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=443196.0

Understood about the 1 star, but IPO is not a part of this post and this is not a breeding insane attack on 250 coins...


Title: Re: [LIST] List of suspected scam- and/or shitcoins - CHECK THIS!
Post by: Willisius on May 13, 2014, 11:16:32 PM

Hi folks,

we from shitcoins.info are trying to inform/warn potential victims from alleged scam-/shitcoins.
We already are posting a warning message on there threads but the devs are fighting against us.
Yesterday LimeCoin [LC] moved to a new selfmoderated thread after we told the community that
LimeCoin was instamined (more than 85% of the total coins were instamined within 48 minutes after launch).

This just shows us that the dev is trying to hide this information and get more unaware miners/investors/traders
into the boat he and the early adopters can rip off...

Please check this thread regularily. We will post every coin that was premined, instamined and could be a risk for
miners/traders/investors (pump/dump). We also will list coins which are just copy/paste-coins with no innovation.



WARNING: The list below contains altcoins with suspicious amounts of instamined or premined coins and copy/pastecoins with IPO:


LimeCoin [LC] - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=589373.0
SCAMWARNING:
  • INSTAMINED
  • more than 50% of total coins instamined within 27 minutes after launch!!!
  • EVIDENCE: http://107.161.145.152:3333/block/a2f6bca523f494bca566c2851709daefbb9eb5749b300aaeae829ee9c144995e
  • more than 75% instamined within 48 minutes after launch!!!
  • alleged PUMP/DUMP coin!





Oh man, you've got a lot of work ahead of you


Title: Re: [LIST] List of suspected scam- and/or shitcoins - CHECK THIS!
Post by: illiki23 on May 13, 2014, 11:56:46 PM
One possibility is to use data mining to identify coin patterns related to scam coins.

Features: 
1.  Ranking of coin developer
2.  Disclosed identity of coin developer
3.  Premine amount
4.  IPO amount
5.  Keyword frequencies of developer and user posts
6.  Number of innovative features
7.  Proof of development.
8.  Website
9.  Divergence of source code from coin code it was cloned from
10.  Was it cloned?
11.  Pre-Ann
12.  Amount of development related chatter.
13.  Escrow options
14.  Price and volume history of coins that do release a coin but do not work on features.

The thing that interests me, because of all the hype generated by both scam and non-scam coins, is to ask if there is a correlation between keyword (and n-gram) frequencies and whether or not a coin is successful.  Intermediate information extraction would be useful.

I wrote a script which actually goes through this forum and extracts keywords, I wrote it to keep a list of all coin names updated, but it could easily be converted to establish the rough keyword frequencies for each coin found in their announcement threads.

If given a list of which coins were scams or not I am sure some patterns will emerge.  In general a lot of scam coins make a lot of unrealistic guarantees and use language different than other coins.

A problem though is once an automated data mining method is made to classify coins as high, low, or medium risk then the scammer can adapt their language an methodology.


Title: Re: [LIST] List of suspected scam- and/or shitcoins - CHECK THIS!
Post by: elviselvis101 on May 14, 2014, 08:45:08 PM
One possibility is to use data mining to identify coin patterns related to scam coins.

Features: 
1.  Ranking of coin developer
2.  Disclosed identity of coin developer
3.  Premine amount
4.  IPO amount
5.  Keyword frequencies of developer and user posts
6.  Number of innovative features
7.  Proof of development.
8.  Website
9.  Divergence of source code from coin code it was cloned from
10.  Was it cloned?
11.  Pre-Ann
12.  Amount of development related chatter.
13.  Escrow options
14.  Price and volume history of coins that do release a coin but do not work on features.

The thing that interests me, because of all the hype generated by both scam and non-scam coins, is to ask if there is a correlation between keyword (and n-gram) frequencies and whether or not a coin is successful.  Intermediate information extraction would be useful.

I wrote a script which actually goes through this forum and extracts keywords, I wrote it to keep a list of all coin names updated, but it could easily be converted to establish the rough keyword frequencies for each coin found in their announcement threads.

If given a list of which coins were scams or not I am sure some patterns will emerge.  In general a lot of scam coins make a lot of unrealistic guarantees and use language different than other coins.

A problem though is once an automated data mining method is made to classify coins as high, low, or medium risk then the scammer can adapt their language an methodology.

IPO not a problem, if its for people that do not wanna mine but want the coin. (and the premine most then be very little - we have to presume that all premine will be misused by dev, default)


Title: Re: [LIST] List of suspected scam- and/or shitcoins - CHECK THIS!
Post by: ecoinspro on May 14, 2014, 09:43:49 PM
IPO or premine even 100% is not always a scam