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Title: What happened at Gox on 2013-05-13 - (BTC Xfer Diagrams) Post by: phelix on April 30, 2014, 08:46:19 AM Created a graph from the leaked Gox data. Daily sum of BTC deposits and withdrawals (purple) vs. Gox price (red) vs. Stamp price (blue - also Gox price pre 2013).
Something seems to have happened around 2013-05-13... what? http://blockchained.com/stuff/figure_1.png http://blockchained.com/stuff/figure_2.png Notes: Aggregated data: http://blockchained.com/stuff/filtered_xfer_report_2.txt Here is how I aggregated the data, you are welcome to reuse, review improve: http://blockchained.com/stuff/xferfilter2.py_ It looks odd there are so little coins on Gox before 2011-August. Title: Re: What happened at Gox on 2013-05-13 - (BTC Xfer Diagrams) Post by: MoreFun on April 30, 2014, 09:07:06 AM Can you also add fiat sum of deposits and withdrawals?
Title: Re: What happened at Gox on 2013-05-13 - (BTC Xfer Diagrams) Post by: sobriket on April 30, 2014, 09:17:12 AM Great visualisation.
Maybe this is what happened: http://www.goxdox.org/2014/04/mt-gox-was-hacked-in-2013-this-is-when.html (account inflation and withdrawal) Title: Re: What happened at Gox on 2013-05-13 - (BTC Xfer Diagrams) Post by: solex on April 30, 2014, 09:24:23 AM This happened:
http://betabeat.com/2013/05/warrant-reveals-department-of-homeland-security-seized-mt-goxs-dwolla-account-for-unlicensed-money-transmitting/ Title: Re: What happened at Gox on 2013-05-13 - (BTC Xfer Diagrams) Post by: Aditya on April 30, 2014, 10:22:07 AM Quote [16:54] <@KuDeTa> KuDeTa: So what do you think should happen? If OKCoin get together and manage to make a reasonable bid, will you - can you - support it? [16:54] <@KuDeTa> [10:44am] MagicalTux: I met with OkCoin today [16:54] <@KuDeTa> [10:45am] KuDeTa: what were your thoughts on it? If you can share [16:54] <@KuDeTa> [10:46am] MagicalTux: sounds like their plan still need some work, but is on a much better shape [16:54] <@KuDeTa> [10:47am] KuDeTa: on a much better shape? … For whom? You, me, us them? [16:54] <@KuDeTa> [10:48am] MagicalTux: creditors, first [16:54] <@KuDeTa> [10:49am] KuDeTa: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=590138.0 [16:54] <@KuDeTa> [10:49am] KuDeTa: what do you make of that graph [16:54] <@KuDeTa> [10:49am] KuDeTa: Something strange happened at gox last year in may [16:54] <@KuDeTa> [10:52am] KuDeTa: It might not be much but i thought it was interesting [16:54] <@KuDeTa> [10:53am] KuDeTa: 400k btc difference [16:54] <@KuDeTa> [10:53am] MagicalTux: we have found evidence of a hack in June2013 [16:54] <@KuDeTa> [10:53am] MagicalTux: that might be linked Title: Re: What happened at Gox on 2013-05-13 - (BTC Xfer Diagrams) Post by: UnDerDoG81 on April 30, 2014, 10:23:15 AM When will Karpeles be hanged? Can we watch it live on TV? Like Saddam?
Title: Re: What happened at Gox on 2013-05-13 - (BTC Xfer Diagrams) Post by: sobriket on April 30, 2014, 10:28:34 AM Fiat balances inflated in April 2013 (through fake deposits), purchases of BTC driving the price up enormously, followed by at first slow, and later fast withdrawals in April and May 2013?
Title: Re: What happened at Gox on 2013-05-13 - (BTC Xfer Diagrams) Post by: phelix on April 30, 2014, 11:07:01 AM Quote [16:54] <@KuDeTa> KuDeTa: So what do you think should happen? If OKCoin get together and manage to make a reasonable bid, will you - can you - support it? [16:54] <@KuDeTa> [10:44am] MagicalTux: I met with OkCoin today [16:54] <@KuDeTa> [10:45am] KuDeTa: what were your thoughts on it? If you can share [16:54] <@KuDeTa> [10:46am] MagicalTux: sounds like their plan still need some work, but is on a much better shape [16:54] <@KuDeTa> [10:47am] KuDeTa: on a much better shape? … For whom? You, me, us them? [16:54] <@KuDeTa> [10:48am] MagicalTux: creditors, first [16:54] <@KuDeTa> [10:49am] KuDeTa: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=590138.0 [16:54] <@KuDeTa> [10:49am] KuDeTa: what do you make of that graph [16:54] <@KuDeTa> [10:49am] KuDeTa: Something strange happened at gox last year in may [16:54] <@KuDeTa> [10:52am] KuDeTa: It might not be much but i thought it was interesting [16:54] <@KuDeTa> [10:53am] KuDeTa: 400k btc difference [16:54] <@KuDeTa> [10:53am] MagicalTux: we have found evidence of a hack in June2013 [16:54] <@KuDeTa> [10:53am] MagicalTux: that might be linked Title: Re: What happened at Gox on 2013-05-13 - (BTC Xfer Diagrams) Post by: Aquent on April 30, 2014, 02:01:12 PM About 300k btc was withdrawn in May after DHS seized the dwolla account. So everyone stared turning their fiat into btc and withdrawing. That's why there was a btc price premium on gox.
Title: Re: What happened at Gox on 2013-05-13 - (BTC Xfer Diagrams) Post by: phelix on April 30, 2014, 06:33:55 PM Can you also add fiat sum of deposits and withdrawals? These have not been leaked as far as I know.Great visualisation. Unfortunately there is no proof...Maybe this is what happened: http://www.goxdox.org/2014/04/mt-gox-was-hacked-in-2013-this-is-when.html (account inflation and withdrawal) This happened: http://betabeat.com/2013/05/warrant-reveals-department-of-homeland-security-seized-mt-goxs-dwolla-account-for-unlicensed-money-transmitting/ About 300k btc was withdrawn in May after DHS seized the dwolla account. So everyone stared turning their fiat into btc and withdrawing. That's why there was a btc price premium on gox. Ahh, how could I not think of that. Looks like it was the beginning of the end. So the DHS exposed MtGox' fractional reserve banking practice. LoL.Still, in January when the spread between Bitstamp and Gox grew it almost looks as if some people knew more than others. Title: Re: What happened at Gox on 2013-05-13 - (BTC Xfer Diagrams) Post by: mtgoxleaker on May 01, 2014, 07:22:14 PM Thanks phelix, nice visualization.
Would you consider adding it to the wiki we are starting to try and correlate these analyses at http://www.reddit.com/r/mtgoxaddresses/wiki/analysis ? It would be nice to start trying to pool efforts on this. |
