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Title: Bitcoin Foundation Election Yields No New Board Members
Post by: pdawg on May 02, 2014, 12:42:28 AM
Full Article Here:

http://newsbtc.com/2014/05/01/bitcoin-foundation-election-yields-new-board-members/ (http://newsbtc.com/2014/05/01/bitcoin-foundation-election-yields-new-board-members/)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation Election Yields No New Board Members
Post by: medicine on May 02, 2014, 01:10:54 AM
I've never directly interacted with the foundation, only watched a few videos online.  I didn't like how they are US based and headed by a very un-diverse group of individuals.  Trying to control and lead the world again.   Now reading this article and seeing that individual members don't even get to elect their own board members I will no longer pay attention to thus group.
I had considered becoming a member at one point because I want to support all initiatives, but now that is out of the question.

Bitcoin foundation: thank you for paying the lead developers salary, that's about all I can say.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation Election Yields No New Board Members
Post by: Mobius7 on May 02, 2014, 01:17:37 AM
https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/939-election-results/

No one is able to get 52 votes lol.
Quote
Bobby Lee, 44
Brock Pierce, 34
Vinny Lingham, 21
Luke Dashjr, 13
Frank Schuil, 12
Jon Holmquist, 12
Jason Tyra, 9
None of the above, 7
Andres Bzurovski, 7
John McDonnell, 6
Clint Ditto, 3
Vytautas Karalevičius, 3
Leon Li, 3
Mohammad Mufti, 2
Henryk Dabrowski, 2
Jay Yeom, 1


Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation Election Yields No New Board Members
Post by: cypherdoc on May 02, 2014, 01:39:04 AM
https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/939-election-results/

No one is able to get 52 votes lol.
Quote
Bobby Lee, 44
Brock Pierce, Liu 34
Vinny Lingham, 21
Luke Dashjr, 13
Frank Schuil, 12
Jon Holmquist, 12
Jason Tyra, 9
None of the above, 7
Andres Bzurovski, 7
John McDonnell, 6
Clint Ditto, 3
Vytautas Karalevičius, 3
Leon Li, 3
Mohammad Mufti, 2
Henryk Dabrowski, 2
Jay Yeom, 1

That's kind of a lame list if you ask me.

Looks like all the good candidates from last year are no longer interested in running. Shame.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation Election Yields No New Board Members
Post by: BittBurger on May 02, 2014, 02:53:35 AM
Brock Pierce is such a porn name.

Bobby lee is fine.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation Election Yields No New Board Members
Post by: Loophole on May 02, 2014, 05:06:53 AM
Bobby lee is fine.

Bobby Lee is a good comedian, and this Bobby Lee is not as funny. :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation Election Yields No New Board Members
Post by: Sindelar1938 on May 02, 2014, 05:18:54 AM
Not a good thing, we need to get good new guys in there to provide fresh impetus and direction


Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation Election Yields No New Board Members
Post by: QuestionAuthority on May 02, 2014, 06:49:31 AM
"None of the above" and Andres Bzurovski are tied for eighth place. lol

The foundation has become a silly joke to me now. They are so ineffectual and unnecessary that if they all spontaneously burst into flames and died tomorrow nothing would change. Bitcoin would just march on forward without them.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation Election Yields No New Board Members
Post by: Zebra on May 02, 2014, 09:26:01 AM
"None of the above" and Andres Bzurovski are tied for eighth place. lol

The foundation has become a silly joke to me now. They are so ineffectual and unnecessary that if they all spontaneously burst into flames and died tomorrow nothing would change. Bitcoin would just march on forward without them.

+1.
The bitcoin foundation has done nothing important, and we don't really need it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation Election Yields No New Board Members
Post by: Siegfried on May 02, 2014, 10:44:37 AM
WGAF


Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation Election Yields No New Board Members
Post by: ljudotina on May 02, 2014, 10:54:30 AM
Bitcoin foundation: thank you for paying the lead developers salary, that's about all I can say.

This is not good thing as most ppl think it is.
Getting payed by "someone" makes that "someone" able to control you in a way.

Bitcoin should be open and not centralized / controlled by an individual or a group....this second part is failing harder as time passes and it will be main source of Bitcoin fall if it ever happens. I'm not saying Bitcoin will fail. Things can change any day, but if it does, it will be because of this (centralization and control that has it's source in fundation and ASIC's).


Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation Election Yields No New Board Members
Post by: IIOII on May 02, 2014, 11:09:24 AM
"None of the above" and Andres Bzurovski are tied for eighth place. lol

The foundation has become a silly joke to me now. They are so ineffectual and unnecessary that if they all spontaneously burst into flames and died tomorrow nothing would change. Bitcoin would just march on forward without them.

+1.
The bitcoin foundation has done nothing important, and we don't really need it.

They're not needed and if we allow them to follow their agenda it will hurt bitcoin. TBF is an undemocratic closed lobbyist circle which supports governmental overregulation and is betraying the heart of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation Election Yields No New Board Members
Post by: MegaHustlr on May 02, 2014, 03:17:39 PM
"None of the above" and Andres Bzurovski are tied for eighth place. lol

The foundation has become a silly joke to me now. They are so ineffectual and unnecessary that if they all spontaneously burst into flames and died tomorrow nothing would change. Bitcoin would just march on forward without them.

+1.
The bitcoin foundation has done nothing important, and we don't really need it.

They're not needed and if we allow them to follow their agenda it will hurt bitcoin. TBF is an undemocratic closed lobbyist circle which supports governmental overregulation and is betraying the heart of bitcoin.

And they are in it for profit never for the community development..


Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation Election Yields No New Board Members
Post by: RodeoX on May 02, 2014, 03:20:59 PM
Lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation Election Yields No New Board Members
Post by: bitcatch on May 02, 2014, 05:31:39 PM
I support Luke.
And who is Bobby Lee? For the sake of momentary profit, he recently added Bitcoin #9 aka Litecoin to his exchange. He helps to undermine one of the most important features of Bitcoin - finite supply.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation Election Yields No New Board Members
Post by: IIOII on May 05, 2014, 11:51:38 AM
Lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way.

This statement is revealing enough. Most dictators would agree.  ::)

TBF fanboys don't like to have their primary source of self-confidence threatened. Relax, nobody will take away your cool TBF badge you've proudly collected...


Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation Election Yields No New Board Members
Post by: dreamspark on May 05, 2014, 12:12:34 PM
Who cares I don't know anyone outside of the foundation who even cares what they have to say. Too much importance placed in a central entity in a de centralised system will end in disaster.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation Election Yields No New Board Members
Post by: RodeoX on May 05, 2014, 02:19:24 PM
Lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way.

This statement is revealing enough. Most dictators would agree.  ::)

TBF fanboys don't like to have their primary source of self-confidence threatened. Relax, nobody will take away your cool TBF badge you've proudly collected...

You don't know your history. Dictatorships offer only the choice to follow. Fortunately with bitcoin there is an opportunity to organize and effect change.  You can take charge of your future and shape it. That's called leadership. You can follow and support ideas and work with others toward a goal. Or you can cry like a baby while the world passes you by.
This is why your ideas will remain largely in your own head and buried in unread internet posts. While those who do something productive, like the foundation members, will shape the future. Of course the more the better. If you have other ideas about bitcoin then you should do some work to make it happen. But if your plan begins and ends with tearing other people down then I assume you don't actually have any ideas.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation Election Yields No New Board Members
Post by: Joshuar on May 05, 2014, 02:45:13 PM
Bitcoin foundation: thank you for paying the lead developers salary, that's about all I can say.

This is not good thing as most ppl think it is.
Getting payed by "someone" makes that "someone" able to control you in a way.

Bitcoin should be open and not centralized / controlled by an individual or a group....this second part is failing harder as time passes and it will be main source of Bitcoin fall if it ever happens. I'm not saying Bitcoin will fail. Things can change any day, but if it does, it will be because of this (centralization and control that has it's source in fundation and ASIC's).

Let me give you the reality, No One would actually code and help develop something as complicated as Bitcoin without getting paid or it. Since Bitcoin is a very new thing to the world, we Do Need a foundation.

However, the current Bitcoin foundation has been plagued by scamming members etc, what we need are completely new members that would actually, activitely promote Bitcoin through paying for advertisements etc etc.

But we do need a foundation, or Bitcoin would end up as past memories in people's heads in a few years, as it would have no guidance and not much promotion. Nothing in this world is decentralized, everything has a central point in one way or another...


Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation Election Yields No New Board Members
Post by: Beliathon on May 05, 2014, 02:56:39 PM
No One would actually code and help develop something as complicated as Bitcoin without getting paid or it.
Except Satoshi Nakamoto, who as of this post has not touched a single penny of his/her/their BTC wealth.

This may come as a surprise to the capitalists of the world, but money-making is not then only motivation for human behavior...


Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation Election Yields No New Board Members
Post by: Joshuar on May 05, 2014, 02:58:02 PM
No One would actually code and help develop something as complicated as Bitcoin without getting paid or it.
Except Satoshi Nakamoto, who as of this post has not touched a single penny of his/her/their BTC wealth.

Seriously? Where's he now? Is he still working on Bitcoin? No..he gave it up 3 years ago, and the original bitcoin wallet etc back then was improved upon tremendously by Gavin... Again, No one would work on something as complicated as Bitcoin without getting paid.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation Election Yields No New Board Members
Post by: Bit_Happy on May 05, 2014, 05:45:57 PM
Brock Pierce is such a porn name.


Danger

Not just porn but child rape.
There will be a run-off election.
Brock Pierce has the type of past that will be used to mock, shame and severely damage BTC.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation Election Yields No New Board Members
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 05, 2014, 07:08:09 PM
Brock Pierce is such a porn name.


Danger

Not just porn but child rape.
There will be a run-off election.
Brock Pierce has the type of past that will be used to mock, shame and severely damage BTC.

In case folks missed the video: http://web.archive.org/web/20060208124607/http://www.fuckedcompany.com/den/

Can't wait to see the Hitler parody video.

"Brock Pierce has done this, and this, and spoke here and here, now he's here at this Bitcoin conference."

"As soon as Brock takes over Mount Coxs and is on The Bitcoin Foundation board, I'm going to get a golden shower."

"Mein Fuhrer. Brock Pierce..."

"Brock Pierce's pedophile past has been outed..."

"Anybody who hasn't fantasized about fucking an induced coked-up Mexican midget boy, please leave the room."


Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation Election Yields No New Board Members
Post by: Bit_Happy on May 05, 2014, 08:33:08 PM

"Brock Pierce's pedophile past has been outed..."
...

I see the damage already getting worse.
Does anyone know the date of the run-off election for the empty seats?



Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation Election Yields No New Board Members
Post by: QuestionAuthority on May 06, 2014, 04:12:03 AM
Brock Pierce is such a porn name.


Danger

Not just porn but child rape.
There will be a run-off election.
Brock Pierce has the type of past that will be used to mock, shame and severely damage BTC.

Just when I think this place can't get more entertaining. What do they do for an encore, elect a convicted serial killer? lol


Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation Election Yields No New Board Members
Post by: genjix on May 06, 2014, 04:40:55 AM
No One would actually code and help develop something as complicated as Bitcoin without getting paid or it.
Except Satoshi Nakamoto, who as of this post has not touched a single penny of his/her/their BTC wealth.

Seriously? Where's he now? Is he still working on Bitcoin? No..he gave it up 3 years ago, and the original bitcoin wallet etc back then was improved upon tremendously by Gavin... Again, No one would work on something as complicated as Bitcoin without getting paid.

I am not getting paid. I had no money during 2013. All my income goes back into development.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation Election Yields No New Board Members
Post by: BitOnyx on May 06, 2014, 12:31:55 PM
Information about this foundation shouldn't be that important.

But I'm afraid as long someone would finally create different foundation or everyone is get drunk enough we wont be able to do much about it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation Election Yields No New Board Members
Post by: dreamspark on May 06, 2014, 12:56:55 PM
No One would actually code and help develop something as complicated as Bitcoin without getting paid or it.
Except Satoshi Nakamoto, who as of this post has not touched a single penny of his/her/their BTC wealth.

Seriously? Where's he now? Is he still working on Bitcoin? No..he gave it up 3 years ago, and the original bitcoin wallet etc back then was improved upon tremendously by Gavin... Again, No one would work on something as complicated as Bitcoin without getting paid.

Right and did Gavin get paid in the beginning? Or all the other contributors to the code of which there are many.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation Election Yields No New Board Members
Post by: Joshuar on May 06, 2014, 04:17:25 PM
No One would actually code and help develop something as complicated as Bitcoin without getting paid or it.
Except Satoshi Nakamoto, who as of this post has not touched a single penny of his/her/their BTC wealth.

Seriously? Where's he now? Is he still working on Bitcoin? No..he gave it up 3 years ago, and the original bitcoin wallet etc back then was improved upon tremendously by Gavin... Again, No one would work on something as complicated as Bitcoin without getting paid.

Right and did Gavin get paid in the beginning? Or all the other contributors to the code of which there are many.

You're all making my point. Is Gavin being paid now? Yes.
Would he continue to work on Bitcoin if he wasn't paid? Likely No.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation Election Yields No New Board Members
Post by: franky1 on May 06, 2014, 05:35:24 PM
https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/939-election-results/

No one is able to get 52 votes lol.
Quote
Bobby Lee, 44
Brock Pierce, 34
Vinny Lingham, 21
Luke Dashjr, 13
Frank Schuil, 12
Jon Holmquist, 12
Jason Tyra, 9
None of the above, 7
Andres Bzurovski, 7
John McDonnell, 6
Clint Ditto, 3
Vytautas Karalevičius, 3
Leon Li, 3
Mohammad Mufti, 2
Henryk Dabrowski, 2
Jay Yeom, 1

they should follow the british governments election strategy.. first take brock pierce out of the equation due to his illicit and disgusting life history. and the divide the 34 votes between bobby lee and vinny lingham(whoever he is?)

oh then ofcourse even with bobby lee then getting 62 votes.. make the decision of employing all of them and forming a coalition as a group entity within the foundation


Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation Election Yields No New Board Members
Post by: QuestionAuthority on May 07, 2014, 12:39:20 AM
https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/939-election-results/

No one is able to get 52 votes lol.
Quote
Bobby Lee, 44
Brock Pierce, 34
Vinny Lingham, 21
Luke Dashjr, 13
Frank Schuil, 12
Jon Holmquist, 12
Jason Tyra, 9
None of the above, 7
Andres Bzurovski, 7
John McDonnell, 6
Clint Ditto, 3
Vytautas Karalevičius, 3
Leon Li, 3
Mohammad Mufti, 2
Henryk Dabrowski, 2
Jay Yeom, 1

they should follow the british governments election strategy.. first take brock pierce out of the equation due to his illicit and disgusting life history. and the divide the 34 votes between bobby lee and vinny lingham(whoever he is?)

oh then ofcourse even with bobby lee then getting 62 votes.. make the decision of employing all of them and forming a coalition as a group entity within the foundation

Or they could just disband the foundation right now and stop pretending that they own Bitcoin.

Politicians are generally about as sharp as the leading edge of a bowling ball. The foundation keeps representing Bitcoin as if they can control it and politicians don't realize that is not true. Look at the key members of the foundation that have had problems with the legal system so far. I really don't understand why that collection of idiots want to put their neck in a hangman's noose and run around the world handing the rope to anyone that will take it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation Election Yields No New Board Members
Post by: funnynews on May 07, 2014, 01:06:04 AM
If you add to bitcoin (main currency) "p2p market" would not depend exchanges and neither would be begging to go on Amazon, Ebay and others.
Thousands of buyers and sellers arise without depending on anything else.
But with owners of exchanges there, nothing will change.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation Election Yields No New Board Members
Post by: franky1 on May 07, 2014, 01:16:56 AM
if the foundation should continue to exist what would be needed? in my opinion

paying the main coders to keep bitcoin-core maintained
paying bounties (not fixed salary) to PR guys to actually correct erroneous media stories
paying on demand lawyers to sort out legal issues (again not fixed salaries to sit on their hands)

and not have people that have bitcoin businesses that would make bitcoin-core change its code in favour of greed, as oppose to open and honest bitcoin features that is best for the community.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation Election Yields No New Board Members
Post by: Joshuar on May 07, 2014, 01:15:49 PM
https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/939-election-results/

No one is able to get 52 votes lol.
Quote
Bobby Lee, 44
Brock Pierce, 34
Vinny Lingham, 21
Luke Dashjr, 13
Frank Schuil, 12
Jon Holmquist, 12
Jason Tyra, 9
None of the above, 7
Andres Bzurovski, 7
John McDonnell, 6
Clint Ditto, 3
Vytautas Karalevičius, 3
Leon Li, 3
Mohammad Mufti, 2
Henryk Dabrowski, 2
Jay Yeom, 1

they should follow the british governments election strategy.. first take brock pierce out of the equation due to his illicit and disgusting life history. and the divide the 34 votes between bobby lee and vinny lingham(whoever he is?)

oh then ofcourse even with bobby lee then getting 62 votes.. make the decision of employing all of them and forming a coalition as a group entity within the foundation

Or they could just disband the foundation right now and stop pretending that they own Bitcoin.

Politicians are generally about as sharp as the leading edge of a bowling ball. The foundation keeps representing Bitcoin as if they can control it and politicians don't realize that is not true. Look at the key members of the foundation that have had problems with the legal system so far. I really don't understand why that collection of idiots want to put their neck in a hangman's noose and run around the world handing the rope to anyone that will take it.

I agree that the foundation does come off as "owning" bitcoin to people who aren't familiar with it. They should have a motto or slogan saying, " We do not own bitcoin, no one does and that's the beauty in it, we simply spread the word"


Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation Election Yields No New Board Members
Post by: IIOII on May 07, 2014, 01:33:08 PM
Lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way.

This statement is revealing enough. Most dictators would agree.  ::)

TBF fanboys don't like to have their primary source of self-confidence threatened. Relax, nobody will take away your cool TBF badge you've proudly collected...

You don't know your history. Dictatorships offer only the choice to follow. Fortunately with bitcoin there is an opportunity to organize and effect change.  You can take charge of your future and shape it. That's called leadership. You can follow and support ideas and work with others toward a goal. Or you can cry like a baby while the world passes you by.
This is why your ideas will remain largely in your own head and buried in unread internet posts. While those who do something productive, like the foundation members, will shape the future. Of course the more the better. If you have other ideas about bitcoin then you should do some work to make it happen. But if your plan begins and ends with tearing other people down then I assume you don't actually have any ideas.

All your pro TBF propaganda starts from the flawed assumption that "something has to be done". Your concept of leadership clearly shows totalitarian/fascitic elements ("lead, follow, or perish!") which most dictatorships embrace.

The opposite notion "nothing has to be done" is an equally qualified statement. I say: I don't want bitcoin to be influenced by governmental bootlickers or shady characters that want to change it in some way to profit - I want bitcoin to be decentralized, independent and free. Therefore a centralized, closed circle foundation is not a benefit but a hazard for bitcoin.

If developers need funds, they can just post a donation address. No foundation needed for this.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation Election Yields No New Board Members
Post by: calaber24p on May 07, 2014, 11:55:34 PM
Bobby Lee isn't a bad choice as we need the Chinese to feel semi represented in the foundation, but im not so sure about Pierce since he has alternate accountability to people outside the user base.