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My biggest gripe has been that all Asic miners have been about $140 to $180/Mhs recently

10 weeks ago $199 for a gridseed at 360Khs was a good deal and I purchased 20. - they worked out to $600/Mhs and low power consumption compared to my GPU's

Then the gridseed blades hit the market 3 weeks ago and after they dropped the initial price from $3,000 down to $1600 that was a good deal: $307/Mhs

Then of course the announcements came from Mining Asics and KNC Miner for units that would be priced at about $96/Mhs which was awesome and then (thank God) KNC really upped the ante and announced they would double the Mhs of all their units and Mining Asics responded by offering a 2 for 1 deal which effectively dropped the price to $48/mhs - but they won't be coming until late July/Early August.

And last Thursday Hashra announced their new line of Asic miner that will delivered by June 12 and the price for their 30Mhs unit works out to about $151/Mhs

Well - it looks like they've been unseated already!

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This morning I see that gawminers.com has three new units coming out

http://www.gawminers.com/scrypt-miners
Backwidow 13mhs - $1,899 = $146/mhs
Falcon - 27 mhs - $3,499 = $129/mhs
War Machine : 54 mhs - $6,799 = $125/mhs
(personally for me there's not enough of a price difference between Falcon and War Machine to justify War Machine since I hate to put all my eggs into one basket)

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http://zeusminer.com/
Zeusminer Blizzard 1.2Mh/s | S-Flex Portable Pro Scrypt ASIC Miner  $199  = 165/mhs
Zeusminer Cyclone 18Mh/s | S-Flex Blade Scrypt ASIC Miner  $2,999 = $166/mhs
Zeusminer Thunder 36Mh/s | S-Flex Blade Scrypt ASIC Miner  $5,500 = $152/mhs
Zeusminer Lightning 72Mh/s| S-Flex Blade Package Scrypt ASIC Miner set  $9,999 = #138/mhs
Plus they're offering some free hosted MHS with each purchase but thy have yet to answer how long three free mhs will last nor when it will start
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http://hashra.com
Lunar Lander 1 : $2,520 | 15 mhs = $168/mhs
Lunar Lander 2 : $4,815 | 30 mhs = $160/mhs
Lunar Lander 4 : $8,955 | 60 Mhs = $149/mhs
Lunar Lander 6 : $13,410 | 90 mhs = $149/mhs
(I guess they didn't get the memo about giving you more for your money as you spend more :) )

ps: I've been communicating with a guy named Simon who works there and he's been very responsive
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http://lightningasic.com/index.aspx?type=3

LIGHTNINGASIC LA75M Scrypt Miner : $9,999 | 75 MHS = $133/mhs
LIGHTNINGASIC LA90M Scrypt Miner : $12,000 | 90 MHS = $133/mhs
(guess that also did not get the memo that says you get more when you pay more)

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this is all good news for us miners interested in Asic technology

I'd be surprised if  Hashra did not drop their prices and the Blades are suddenly totally uncompetitive price wise (but look for an announcement from them post haste :)

If you're ready to pre-order from them- I'd wait if I were you.

ps: I am not affiliated in any way with any of these companies. I'm just a miner.

Thanks for the heads up!  I believe Zeus is around that sweet spot as well.   I don't think they ship until the end of the month tho.

http://zeusminer.com/

Zeusminer Blizzard 1.2Mh/s | S-Flex Portable Pro Scrypt ASIC Miner  $199
Zeusminer Cyclone 18Mh/s | S-Flex Blade Scrypt ASIC Miner  $2,999
Zeusminer Thunder 36Mh/s | S-Flex Blade Scrypt ASIC Miner  $5,500
Zeusminer Lightning 72Mh/s| S-Flex Blade Package Scrypt ASIC Miner set  $9,999

I've seen their stuff too but there's something that scares me a little about those guys. I'm U.S. based and prefer to deal with companies where if they screw me at least I can go throw stones at their building and there's some comfort in dealing with gawminers since they're only 4 hours from my home.

The Zeus guys has been pretty evasize about their promises of free 80% mining with purchase - because I've contacted them and got no real answers. I'm fairly confident that they're real but something about them give me a level of uncomfort I can't explain...

their cyclone is a good deal - no doubt about it - hopefully they'll deliver something on schedule as promised.

thanks for that info - I'll take some time and show their cost per mhs in my original post here.

Thats true!  I wonder if they will get a US based reseller at some point.   I know a guy was talking on the LTCRabbit shoutbox yesterday morning that he had ordered 3 of the lightning boxes.  He said he had talked to the owner and they gave him regular updates.  I personally have not delt with them but seemed like a cool looking product. 

I hope that guy is lucky and get his boxes on time, but LA has a fame of delivering not on time as promised but later.or worse, completely messing your order. It happened to me and many others -just read their thred- and I would never order anything from them again

That's good info!  I have not seen that thread but I'll look it up.  I do my homework before ordering and avoid pre-orders.. just for the fact that there are delays and such..

Hey JJJ,

Thanks for the thread :D

Yeah you are right the $ per MH/S go down,but I am happy to have mit Gridseed Blade running NOW. The point is to have the most MH/S the earliest you can get atm in my opinion.

I think waiting a bit is a good strategy Gawminers e.g. try to get you into their sales funnel by time pressure offers.

Falcon - 27 mhs - $3,499 = $129/mhs sounds for me for the best deal at the moment. But better wait a bit like two weeks and then buy it .. I don't believe they will be out of stock and maybe the price will drop more.

Just as a follow up

Gawminers is listing the new 27MH units with the 3 ship dates

5/26/14 for $4,199
6/2/14 for $3,899
6/9/14 for $3,499

of course the temptation is to pay the higher price based on potential lost revenue

Assuming you can keep the miner running 24x7 their assumption is that you will lose $300 (hence the difference in price) and they're pretty spot on

Using the calculator at coinwarz.com and using the coin that's about 4th or 5th down the list 27mh would gross you about $44/day or $308/week.

delay a week and lose $300 in income

pretty smart marketing if you ask me...

Must admit what you said are in theory true.

but , please don't forget about the risks on pre-orders. most of the times, the manufacture strive to make the date, but it is not their call and sometime it is just tough shit, not anyone's fault. supply chain issue, unexpected problem with PCB board etc.

KnC is famous and kept their promise before, we don't even know if they will be able to keep their promise this time , but you don't think any of these smaller miner companies will be able to do that right?

I hope i only provide some useful infomation. if you feel it is a chance you should take, then, yes, by all means.

my source tells me that the Hashra and Gawminer unit use Zues's chip which are still being tested, not stable and overheat.

we shall see.

+1

The GSD Blades are becoming even cheaper and are currently sitting at $940USD, but at Gawminers there is a ship date for the next batch of May 13th.  I can see these falling to $899USD soon.  Although the $/MH is still higher than a pre-order for say the high end LA, Hashra or Zeus miners, there is something to be said for receiving these miners a few weeks/month(s) earlier, and the obvious questions of whether they will deliver.  I have been badly burned in the past by pre-orders and will not ever do it again.  Everyone has their own calculations... as an example, with four of these blades you can currently make between 2.33 - 2.47 BTC/month, or about $1050/$1111 per month at current BTC/USD. 

Since we all believe in Crypto, you can then begin to project you mean income per month at different BTC/USD valuations.  The difference in the scrypt ASIC race and the SHA-256 ASIC race as I see it: scrypt ASICs have multipools and many different coins to point your miners at, allowing you to play swings on each coin and the difficulty is spread out across them.  Whereas SHA-256 ASICS were/are predominantly used to mine just one coin, BTC, and staying ahead of that difficulty is difficult.  Sure, a lot of folks will point their scrypt ASICs at LTC, however this practice will most likely not be the most profitable.

definitely not most profitable but most reliable source of income because only doge and ltc can support the volume of trading that larger hashes will be unleashing on all pools.

at $121/Mhs - Hashra is the best deal going for their 30 MHS unit - use discount code 'moon' and get a 15% discount.

http://hashra.com/llw2/


$3,650 for 30 Mhs = $121/Mhs = Awesome!

I wanted to buy the blizzard at 1.2mh/s but the company wants you to send money overseas a big no no. if something went wrong you have to go there to straighten it out. so i had to buy a junky one at 1mh/s. overseas banking no no no

A junky one?

Buy from Zoomhash then and you can use a credit card too.

If they took cards I'd be a customer already. I like to use cards because there is some built-in protection because some of these "firms" selling mining gear don't seem to care if their reputation takes some hits and act accordingly. Not worth that risk for me.

yes i mean less hash per dollar

I'm slowly selling the cards out of my rigs on ebay...

Credit cards, not GPUs  :P

at this point in time the 24 MHS Hashra unit is the best investment

good price plus 10% off plus deliver in about 10 to 14 days

I have one on order and may change it to two.

I rather buy a Chinese miner because I have had extremely bad experiences from bitcoin miner companies from the US.
I can't believe you guys have so much trust for Zeus and Gawminers.
The pictures of the miners are a joke! They don't have the finished product yet. What guarantee do we have they don't end up stalling like every other ASIC company?

At least when buying from China you can use escrow. To be honest the only ASIC I'm remotely interested in is the GS Blade and that is old technology.

the Hashra unit is Chinese made

I doesn't matter what country the product is made in if the people running the company are a bunch of scammers.
Now I don't know if Hashra are scammers or not. But their website display a lot of "concept" miners.
That's a warning sign to me. It's really not about US made or not, KNC is from Europe and lately their customer support have gone to shit.

So my point is that if you are looking for ASICs don't blindly pick & chose the miner with the best hashrate/USD. Rather investigate and see if the company is trustworthy or not.

Simon from Hashra has been a Gridseed distributor for a while and I've bought multiple items from him. He decided to have his own miner built because he knew all of the designers and manfacturers in China so he's there right now. Check out their Facebook Page - he posted a video of his new miner yesterday and he's at the manufacturing facility right now monitoring the first batch being built which will ship before the end of the month. Simon is based in London.

he's def not a scammer!

Well, I can definitely say he is not a scammer... I had issue with my Gridseed Blades and Gridseed refused to replaced/repair the blades. Simon was kind enough to offer me replacements...

It is a shame that people whom never dealt with them calling them a Scammer...

I'm not saying they are scammers. But they may very well be late in their deliverers. Or can you guarantee they will deliver on time?
You say they have delivered GS hardware. How does that make them world class on ASICs manufacturing?

All I'm saying is you should never put in maximum trust to a new company. KNC delivered first batch then they went to shit. How can we be sure the same is not gonna happen to Hashra?

you're right - no company can guarantee anything - look at all the Saturn drivers in the United States - ha ha ha

Well, those 1+ MH/s miners are essentially rebranded Zeus miners and will probably achieve the same speeds as the blizzard provided there are no issues

Are you sure they are rebranded Zeus Miners... From what I can tell everything is different maybe except for the ASIC chips...

Also Hashra is much cheaper per MH compare to Zeusminer.

Can these be used with Windows?