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Economy => Gambling => Topic started by: f3tus on May 04, 2014, 11:09:37 PM



Title: Nearly true odds gambling?
Post by: f3tus on May 04, 2014, 11:09:37 PM
I'm curious, is the reason why there aren't many gambling websites that offer a house edge of just 0.1-0.9% because it's not profitable due to the transaction fees that would actually cause them to lose money? So 1% is actually the threshold?

If so, does this mean that peerbet.org's raffles with 0% house edge are actually "sponsored" by peerbet.org free of charge? I.e., they pay for the transactions out of their own wallet and don't get any profit whatsoever? Similar with peerdice.org that has a 0.3% house edge?


Title: Re: Nearly true odds gambling?
Post by: monbux on May 05, 2014, 12:56:16 AM
I've asked peerbet admin this before, and he states that bit777 gambling site funds (he owns both sites) help completely fund peerbet and bit777.

Also, the BTC lost by gamblers obviously is also their money. :)


Title: Re: Nearly true odds gambling?
Post by: WhatsBitcoin on May 05, 2014, 04:03:20 AM
I've asked peerbet admin this before, and he states that bit777 gambling site funds (he owns both sites) help completely fund peerbet and bit777.

Also, the BTC lost by gamblers obviously is also their money. :)
Casinobitco.in owns both sites now.


Title: Re: Nearly true odds gambling?
Post by: nrd525 on May 05, 2014, 04:16:54 AM
On suitable volume, it should be possible to offer a 0.1% edge and be profitable (over the long term - as variance can cause even a site with a 10% edge to lose money in the short term).

My impression is that the gambling websites with a 1% edge are making large profits.


Title: Re: Nearly true odds gambling?
Post by: dooglus on May 05, 2014, 04:21:59 AM
On suitable volume, it should be possible to offer a 0.1% edge and be profitable (over the long term - as variance can cause even a site with a 10% edge to lose money in the short term).

My impression is that the gambling websites with a 1% edge are making large profits.

Just-Dice.com has a 1% house edge, but after more than 1.1 billion bets has only kept 0.32% of the amount wagered.  The reason not many sites offer much less than 1% edge games is that the smaller the house edge, the greater the effect of variance, and the more likely the site is to go bust.  In other words, the smaller the edge, the bigger the bankroll the house requires to be safe from going bust.

Sites which offer player-vs-player games can obviously afford to take a much smaller cut, since they are guaranteed to win a little from every bet.


Title: Re: Nearly true odds gambling?
Post by: vipgelsi on May 05, 2014, 04:25:28 AM
Seems Legit to me but I pass.