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Just counted how many times the word "WE" is written in the original white paper and it is 20 times.

Satoshi has never written "I have proposed or I have done".

Then why should we still think Satoshi is a single person.

It must definitely be group hence "WE".

what do you think....

http://nakamotoinstitute.org/bitcoin/

So they are a team not a person?

Yes, as simple as that.

It's the standard in academic publications to use "we" instead of "I" even if there is just a single author. The fact that "we" is used instead of "I" in the Bitcoin whitepaper says very little other than that Satoshi used an academic writing style, which is already obvious from other parts of the paper.

this is correct... we is academic..

Yes i agree scientific papers must not use "I" but that  does not exclude the word "we" meant a team.

Satoshi's still around. He's just working on another coin at the moment.

First e-mail from Satoshi:

"I've been working on a new electronic cash system that's fully peer-to-peer, with no trusted third party."

We are Satoshi. 
We live here: :D
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02387/ufo_2387810b.jpg

We +1 this! (I was seriously taking a wee when I type that... now I'm pooping, and don't ask me why I typed pooping instead of shitting, for I don't haveth a clue)

True, it doesn't necessarily exclude it. It just doesn't say anything meaningful about the solo/team matter one way or the other.

Just following the standard he or she even still remains as much a mystery to us as always

Think this is just majestic plural.Or just a way to cause confusion about he being a single person or a group.

He got some feedback from the crypto forums before the white paper.

People so want to believe that it was a community because in this day and age individual accomplishment is evil.

Satoshi isn't a he or a she, it's an IT.  A genderless Grey alien that came from Andromeda to save us all from the the evils of Illuminati fiat currency

Nah, why would he do that?

I don't think usage of we or I is important or any kind of proof. In the long run it can only show that he or them or whatever might be or might not be attending some kind of school.

But yeah, I wont be surprised if after some time there will be some cheese movie about it.

scientist mostly work with / on a team dont they??

I read some of the interviews from Gavin and what I got out of it, is that Satoshi is most likely a single Academic Person, most likely a Professor.

My guess is a single man ideal and a group effort to cover all aspects of the bitcoin infrastructure.

That was interesting.
But all I know is that I only have some Satoshis and I would want to reach a 1 BTC.  ;D

u are not alone..i too have only satoshis and want to reach btc

Thanks for letting me know. :D
Big things start from small things.

We are all Satoshi.  Satoshi is the community

You are Satoshi Nakamoto.

Maybe it's the royal "We". Maybe Satoshi is a...KING!  :o

We will probably never see him again.
There are too many risks and not much to gain.



We could easily convince David Icke that Satoshi is a Lizard King.  ;)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LQxwiev-M2A/TmWACj3DYQI/AAAAAAAAEno/sq0_SrCUQmE/s1600/ubaid-reptilian.jpg

I think Satoshi is possibly an ET from another planet.
We will (probably) not know much more about him any time soon.

Another silly thread about the fantasy that Satoshi is a group of multiracial  LGTB agents working for the NSA.

Satoshi is one person, a man, white, and probably American.  He got the idea from reading Nick Szabo's blog, or from direct communication with Nick Szabo, or because he is Nick Szabo.

In fact that Satoshi used "WE" word instead of "I" don't really tell anything, It's still a clue maybe It's a group or maybe It's a single person, but If we think logically, Is one person would be able to create such good crypto coin as bitcoin? I personally think It could.

Satoshi Nakamoto is also meant to be a pseudonym.....

Satoshi used the "royal we".  Look it up.

My guess is it's a single person instead of a group.
Many people normally write "we" in a professionally written report.

IMO, Satoshi realizes that his success is the success of his team. If you have a great idea, it is not always possible to implement it, cos, for example, you will need special knowledge of programming or the economy  etc

I found a good Satoshi quote:
"The utility of the exchanges made possible by Bitcoin will far exceed the cost of electricity used. Therefore, not having Bitcoin would be the net waste." ~Satoshi August 7, 2010

i don't think so!

Of course, that explains the Japanese pseudonym perfectly!

Why didn't I think of that?

Did the OP mention any of that you are saying? its just "we" and "I" and thats all..

Again why does it have to be an american, white and a man..it could well be a black american female..

you are also speculating the identity of satoshi...

We, I, he, she, space alien, cow, time traveler, ant, worm, or etc.

Leave it alone, the entity that blessed us with Bitcoin desired privacy.
Respect the entities desire for privacy.

I never said that he had to be American.  I just said that he probably is.  Most native English speakers are American.  I am having trouble finding numbers, but it is pretty clear that most native English speaking programmers are American.  Unless we have reason to believe that he isn't American, the parsimonious conclusion is that he probably is.

As for his demographics, let's be realistic.  This isn't TV.  Imagine that there was a black female programmer with the skills necessary to write the bitcoin client.  Do you really think that we wouldn't know about such a 1 in a trillion person?  She would be already be one of the most famous people in the world.  All of the elite universities would have fought over her.  Then every company in the world (and not just software companies) would fight fiercely to have her on their staff.  Imagine the Obama story x100.

Black female programmers unite for Focus 100, Google-sponsored NYC hackathon and tech bootcamp
http://thegrio.com/2013/09/26/black-female-programmers-unite-for-focus-100-google-sponsored-nyc-hackathon-tech-bootcamp
"Google and more giant tech brands are joining forces to encourage black women programmers and technology entrepreneurs to hone their skills and acquire venture capital investment."

Maybe Satoshi was a group of black female programmers, or perhaps it doesn't matter?  ;)

THE coin?

Satoshicoin

No he is a lead developer of Dogecoin

I also believe btc was developed by a group not just one person

I would also bet on Nick Szabo:

Dr. Jack Grieve, a lecturer in forensic linguistics at Aston, said:

"The number of linguistic similarities between Szabo’s writing and the Bitcoin paper is uncanny, none of the other possible authors were anywhere near as good of a match. We are pretty confident that out of the primary suspects Nick Szabo is the main author of the paper, though we can’t rule out the possibility that others contributed."

http://www.businessinsider.com/nick-szabo-bitcoin-2014-4#!J9pQr

Nick Szabo, just like Dorian, and many others, have categorically DENIED being Nakamoto.

Bytecoin BCN

I guess!

yeah maybe you are right...the lead developer  calls himself shibetoshi nakamoto on twitter

I am not familiar with scientific papers but I do know that some legal documents uses  "We" as "I" is not formal for it.

You know who HASN'T denied being Nakamoto? Saddam Hussein.

Thanks, Obamacare!

I actually think that it isn't him.  Nick Szabo came up with the idea for Bitcoin, but he isn't known to be an excellent coder.  Many smart people read his blog http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/ .  I believe that one of them saw his idea and implemented it.  So that's my theory: Satoshi is some guy who read Szabo's blog.

'We' makes it sound much like a community and much more welcoming to those who are new to the whole cryptocurrency world.

Yes i agree scientific papers must not use "I"

As it was said already, in academic papers one writes "we", not "I". Even when you present a work oraly at a conference, typically you also say "we" even if you did everything alone.
So the only thing clear is that Satoshi know(s) academic writing style.

Though the white paper follows writing standards of the academic world, in my opinion the writing aspect is not as high level as for instance a paper in a high impact, well-reviewed journal. When reading, it is clear the paper didn't go through a reviewing process.
I believe this is actually positive because the white paper that way is very accessible to many people, a background in computer science is sufficient to get pretty much everything unlike most papers in a journal of a specific sub-field.

The royal 'we'