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Title: Future of GPU
Post by: hakeriukasx on May 07, 2014, 07:45:41 AM
Hello everyone,lets talk and share yours opinions about future of gpu.Time by time gpu becomes usless for mining because there are new asics hardware but before asics all gpu had amazing value and China's companies which producing gpu made a lot money couse most of gpus have been sold out everywhere but whats gonna happen now ?there arent so much gamers that could buy and buy new gpus every years and im thinking these companies gonna loose a lot of money because power of buying is less than before,so is there any hope that someone creates system like cryptocurrencies and gpu will be sold out again :) i dont im a little sad having a few r9 280x which not gonna get return of investment but peoples who have more than 100 gpus at home what they gonna do i cant imagine ??? :o


Title: Re: Future of GPU
Post by: tytanick on May 07, 2014, 09:24:38 AM
like before, sha256 asic came out, and all gpu miners went to scrypt.
Now its turn for keccak (maxcoin) or X11 alghorytm :)
It will be profitable again and again and again .....
story repead itself


Title: Re: Future of GPU
Post by: twelvesigns on May 07, 2014, 09:25:54 AM
I think n-scrypt --- vertcoin is a very good choice.  it is professionally run with very very strong team.


Title: Re: Future of GPU
Post by: dspair on May 07, 2014, 09:57:34 AM
x11 - FPGAs, I've already seen a few 1-2GH/s miners
sha-3 (Maxcoin) - botnets + most likely something else; its hashrate went up too fast, last time I checked it wasn't that profitable for GPU miners
scrypt-n (VTC) - some ASICs can already mine it; and if developer fixes it by increasing N, it will be a CPU-only coin

I haven't seen any good GPU-only algorithms yet.

Also https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=540160.0


Title: Re: Future of GPU
Post by: Omikifuse on May 07, 2014, 12:26:28 PM
x11 - FPGAs, I've already seen a few 1-2GH/s miners
sha-3 (Maxcoin) - botnets + most likely something else; its hashrate went up too fast, last time I checked it wasn't that profitable for GPU miners
scrypt-n (VTC) - some ASICs can already mine it; and if developer fixes it by increasing N, it will be a CPU-only coin

I haven't seen any good GPU-only algorithms yet.

Also https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=540160.0

You are right, sooner or later all algo would be ASIC mineable. So RIP GPU, sell it before its too late or use it for gaming :)


Title: Re: Future of GPU
Post by: cozk on May 07, 2014, 01:57:26 PM
x11 - FPGAs, I've already seen a few 1-2GH/s miners
sha-3 (Maxcoin) - botnets + most likely something else; its hashrate went up too fast, last time I checked it wasn't that profitable for GPU miners
scrypt-n (VTC) - some ASICs can already mine it; and if developer fixes it by increasing N, it will be a CPU-only coin

I haven't seen any good GPU-only algorithms yet.

Also https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=540160.0

You are right, sooner or later all algo would be ASIC mineable. So RIP GPU, sell it before its too late or use it for gaming :)

Some asic can mine scrypt-N.. ??

Ok

Which one ?


Title: Re: Future of GPU
Post by: djm34 on May 07, 2014, 02:04:25 PM
x11 - FPGAs, I've already seen a few 1-2GH/s miners
sha-3 (Maxcoin) - botnets + most likely something else; its hashrate went up too fast, last time I checked it wasn't that profitable for GPU miners
scrypt-n (VTC) - some ASICs can already mine it; and if developer fixes it by increasing N, it will be a CPU-only coin

I haven't seen any good GPU-only algorithms yet.

Also https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=540160.0

You are right, sooner or later all algo would be ASIC mineable. So RIP GPU, sell it before its too late or use it for gaming :)
sooner or later there will be new algo too... (as well as faster gpu, using less power...)


Title: Re: Future of GPU
Post by: Brewins on May 07, 2014, 02:36:42 PM
There will always be a new algorithm for gpu's to mine. Gpu's will never be obsolete



Title: Re: Future of GPU
Post by: klondike_bar on May 08, 2014, 01:53:48 PM
x11 - FPGAs, I've already seen a few 1-2GH/s miners
sha-3 (Maxcoin) - botnets + most likely something else; its hashrate went up too fast, last time I checked it wasn't that profitable for GPU miners
scrypt-n (VTC) - some ASICs can already mine it; and if developer fixes it by increasing N, it will be a CPU-only coin

I haven't seen any good GPU-only algorithms yet.

Also https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=540160.0

so which should I mine now using my R9 270x rig?  Are any of these more profitable than scrypt right now, or does scrypt still have another month or more in it before the ASICs destroy GPU mining?

I read that X11 runs significantly cooler due to the algorithms and the demand placed on the GPU/ram


Title: Re: Future of GPU
Post by: cozk on May 08, 2014, 02:18:17 PM
Still waiting on my question

Which asic can mine VTC ?

I suspect the answer is none but i'll give you the opportunity to answer.


Title: Re: Future of GPU
Post by: flippo on May 08, 2014, 02:25:37 PM
Yes, hashing X11 algorithm means half the power consumption, up to 15°C cooler gpus and cca. triple megahash/s. At least for me.


Title: Re: Future of GPU
Post by: gsupp on May 08, 2014, 02:29:45 PM
Still waiting on my question

Which asic can mine VTC ?

I suspect the answer is none but i'll give you the opportunity to answer.

Well, this company *claims* they will have a Scrypt ASIC capable of Scrypt-N:

http://blissdevices.com/faq/


Title: Re: Future of GPU
Post by: gsupp on May 08, 2014, 04:27:33 PM
I think n-scrypt --- vertcoin is a very good choice.  it is professionally run with very very strong team.

There's also Execoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=491058) another scrypt-n coin with a lot of potential.


Title: Re: Future of GPU
Post by: EFFV on May 08, 2014, 06:21:52 PM
Vertcoin (n-factor) and x-11 coins are a good choice to mine currently.

Buy scrypt and Bitcoin.

I think gpu profitability will begin to pick up again soon... just wait.


Title: Re: Future of GPU
Post by: NuSalvo on May 08, 2014, 11:57:34 PM
I'm sick of seeing people post some shitty companies website and claim they can mine this algo or that with an ASIC.

Unless it is RELEASED and IN SOMEONES HAND then do not compare it and do not post about it for fucks sake, you seem like hopeless idiots just waiting for the next best thing.  That, and your wasting your fucking money.

Personally, with the temps raising I switched to DRK over a month ago and forgot about my 3 rigs.  Some people think it's a shitty coin, but what I had nearly tripled in value one night and has held since then.


Title: Re: Future of GPU
Post by: stacksmasher on May 09, 2014, 03:37:28 AM

X-11 has already been cracked... They are using a modified miner driver to mine with the current SCRYPT ASIC's


Vertcoin (n-factor) and x-11 coins are a good choice to mine currently.

Buy scrypt and Bitcoin.

I think gpu profitability will begin to pick up again soon... just wait.



Title: Re: Future of GPU
Post by: Angela8488 on May 09, 2014, 06:28:42 AM
I can not imagine, if X11 also fails, then the GPU will completely exit the stage of history.


Title: Re: Future of GPU
Post by: SuperKing on May 09, 2014, 07:26:17 AM
It's hard to say the future of AMD and NV.

AMD has a large number of orders from Microsoft(XBOX ONE) and Sony(PS4).
NV has many products and partners.


Title: Re: Future of GPU
Post by: Amph on May 09, 2014, 07:35:23 AM
I can not imagine, if X11 also fails, then the GPU will completely exit the stage of history.

nah i can still instamine at launch with my rig, scrypt included


Title: Re: Future of GPU
Post by: guitarplinker on May 09, 2014, 01:20:52 PM
I'm quite certain Scrypt ASICs cannot mine Scrypt-N coins, whoever said that earlier.

Scrypt-N looks promising, but I think the future of mining cards will be NVIDIA - look at their performance with all the algorithms offered in CCMiner, many cards perform better than AMD for these algorithms.


Title: Re: Future of GPU
Post by: djm34 on May 09, 2014, 01:29:09 PM
I'm quite certain Scrypt ASICs cannot mine Scrypt-N coins, whoever said that earlier.

Scrypt-N looks promising, but I think the future of mining cards will be NVIDIA - look at their performance with all the algorithms offered in CCMiner, many cards perform better than AMD for these algorithms.
scrypt-N looks like dying... (gpuc dead, exe not doing so good in the exchange, etc...)  and with summer approaching it might become a nice way to kill the cards too (too hot, excessive VRM temp which is not always possible to monitor).


Title: Re: Future of GPU
Post by: stacksmasher on May 09, 2014, 02:31:54 PM

I have seen it with my own eyes, the guy wanted 10 BTC for the software (modified cgminer)




I'm quite certain Scrypt ASICs cannot mine Scrypt-N coins, whoever said that earlier.

Scrypt-N looks promising, but I think the future of mining cards will be NVIDIA - look at their performance with all the algorithms offered in CCMiner, many cards perform better than AMD for these algorithms.


Title: Re: Future of GPU
Post by: Equate on May 09, 2014, 02:54:19 PM
I'm quite certain Scrypt ASICs cannot mine Scrypt-N coins, whoever said that earlier.

Scrypt-N looks promising, but I think the future of mining cards will be NVIDIA - look at their performance with all the algorithms offered in CCMiner, many cards perform better than AMD for these algorithms.
scrypt-N looks like dying... (gpuc dead, exe not doing so good in the exchange, etc...)  and with summer approaching it might become a nice way to kill the cards too (too hot, excessive VRM temp which is not always possible to monitor).

My 2 cards went kaput while mining Scrypt-N , now i am mining x11 coins. Any coin which could implement the algorithm which could remain asic resistant for long time and does not overheat GPUs could be the future of GPU mining.


Title: Re: Future of GPU
Post by: Bombadil on May 09, 2014, 05:13:58 PM
Honestly? GPU mining will die out, *probably*. Why?
- The big ASIC's for scrypt are arriving, Scrypt-N is not popular enough, and there are rumours about X11 FPGA's. Sidenote: GPU's are adaptable. If for some reason, the next popular coin, like LTC/DOGE, arrives with a new algo that is cool in both ways, a gpu miner will be able to switch to it instantly (well, as fast as a dev can work and release their work :P )
- Mining isn't as popular as it used to be, but this could change if BTC has another big pump. Sidenote: Some miners will profit from the much lower hashrates, but it is volatile: as soon as it becomes really profitable again, all those sleeping rigs will be awakened again. I guess there are loads of people with GPU's they cannot sell.
- Pure PoS is running rampant these days, lead by BlackCoin, so no more mining required. Sidenote: Most pure PoS still have a few days to weeks with classic PoW for initial redistribution, so I guess some miners will stick to the game of mining every new coin ;)
- Mining with PoW isn't eco-friendly at all. In our age of global warming, isn't this something we should think about?

So, GPU mining, in my view, will die out, except for the hobbyists, like it was before they/we ever heard of a BTC/USD exchange :P


Title: Re: Future of GPU
Post by: grosminer on May 09, 2014, 05:41:09 PM
Yes, hashing X11 algorithm means half the power consumption, up to 15°C cooler gpus and cca. triple megahash/s. At least for me.

Same here! And i guess X11 is really Asic resistant for now


Title: Re: Future of GPU
Post by: DMacleod on May 09, 2014, 09:07:15 PM
Yes, hashing X11 algorithm means half the power consumption, up to 15°C cooler gpus and cca. triple megahash/s. At least for me.

Same here! And i guess X11 is really Asic resistant for now

But it is not profitable to mine any existing x11 coin :(


Title: Re: Future of GPU
Post by: guitarplinker on May 09, 2014, 11:18:09 PM

I have seen it with my own eyes, the guy wanted 10 BTC for the software (modified cgminer)




I'm quite certain Scrypt ASICs cannot mine Scrypt-N coins, whoever said that earlier.

Scrypt-N looks promising, but I think the future of mining cards will be NVIDIA - look at their performance with all the algorithms offered in CCMiner, many cards perform better than AMD for these algorithms.
Do you have a link for that? I'm very interested.


Title: Re: Future of GPU
Post by: fattypig on May 10, 2014, 02:12:44 AM

I have seen it with my own eyes, the guy wanted 10 BTC for the software (modified cgminer)




I'm quite certain Scrypt ASICs cannot mine Scrypt-N coins, whoever said that earlier.

Scrypt-N looks promising, but I think the future of mining cards will be NVIDIA - look at their performance with all the algorithms offered in CCMiner, many cards perform better than AMD for these algorithms.
Do you have a link for that? I'm very interested.

Same here, I am sick of AMD for a reason. if Nvidia is as good as AMD I would choose Nvidia!!


Title: Re: Future of GPU
Post by: Amph on May 10, 2014, 06:11:51 AM

I have seen it with my own eyes, the guy wanted 10 BTC for the software (modified cgminer)




I'm quite certain Scrypt ASICs cannot mine Scrypt-N coins, whoever said that earlier.

Scrypt-N looks promising, but I think the future of mining cards will be NVIDIA - look at their performance with all the algorithms offered in CCMiner, many cards perform better than AMD for these algorithms.
Do you have a link for that? I'm very interested.

Same here, I am sick of AMD for a reason. if Nvidia is as good as AMD I would choose Nvidia!!

they are better at consumption, but for now without big cards, maxwell is not worth it imho

density is important, with 3x the rigs needed to accomplish the same hash, is not that efficient in the end

295x2 consume only 500watt if they weren't so damn expensive, they probably can be classified as the best card right now


Title: Re: Future of GPU
Post by: guitarplinker on May 10, 2014, 04:54:01 PM
Sorry guys, I meant does stacksmasher have a link to the guy selling the modified CGMiner that allows ASICs on Scrypt-N for 10BTC.

Anyway, if you want to see how NVIDIA is catching up / passing AMD with certain algorithms, look at the 750 Ti's performance with algorithms included with CCMiner - it gets amazing efficiency for many algorithms included with CCMiner compared to AMD cards.