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Hey guys, i just bought this swiss knife thingy 3 days ago, unfortunately i can't use it anymore. When i checked it says "Made in China" .   :(

How much you pay, how much you gain.
Guess what? iPhone&iPad was made in China too.

omg....

epic post bro!

I remember growing up in the 70's and everything made in Japan was considered shit. China was a communist country, one of which I felt I would never be able to visit even if I had a passport and visa. Now all you need is a visa and book a flight. Times, they are a changin'!

~Bruno~

I couldn't imagine a period where Japanese built stuff was considered cheap crap...

And I remember growing with toys Made in China. They all broke within 5 minutes of their designated NORMAL use. Not to be a douche, but everything made in China is of POOR quality.

Japanese made are exceptional when it comes to quality mate  :)

i agree with you my friend.

Please understand the point I was making. I'm not speaking about now, but back in the 60's and 70's. Not every product was perceived as bad--just most.

The following is a quote from another forum I found via Google to help drive my point home: http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=633258


Feel free to following the link I provided. You'll be welcomed with a quick read and interesting insights.

~Bruno~

People who use the phrase "my friend" make me want to read their posts in a thick Russian accent with unnecessary vulgarities. Like, "Chinese products are for pussies my friend."

people who uses "my friend" are friendly people.  :)

It is true that many products from China have poor quality, but almost all products from US are low quality.

If more people actually considered the quality of the purchase (ie touched it and looked at it) before buying it, this might be different. Instead, I believe most people buy the cheapest of something, pushing good quality manufacturers out of business, leaving only those that only make cheap things to get larger.

What made you buy that particular knife instead of other higher priced or higher quality ones?

its not china's fault. a guy goes into a factory and say...i want you to build me this as cheep as possible. facory guy says ok it will be like this, other guy says ok lets do it!

most of the crap my girlfriend buys is crap. crap crap crap. does not last. she never really looks at quality. i should have know when she traded in her 1990 volkswagen GTI for a 1993 ford escort...should have left her then...baby welcome to dumpsville, population you...sigh...where was i going with this? china thats right, they can make anything once they put their mind to it. now thats a huge generalization...not all fords are crap....just 99.9% of them   :o

i haven't checked it first, it's looks was great when i bought it but i haven't really checked that thing.

What's the difference between poor quality and low quality?

Thanks mate, i now know how poor the US government is.  ;D

I remember reading some place that companies use China as a manufacturer(one reason) because they're built to their specifications more precisely, and cheaper.

You're fucking up. Benchmade, homie.

http://www.benchmade.com/ (http://www.benchmade.com/)

What else... lower wages + no social protection = cheaper production = +profit...
Event thus now the economic leeches (AKA corporations) are changing their production to Vietnam where wages are even lower than China.
Keep wearing with proud Nike, Puma, Adidas... and all other made in "where it gets cheaper to made" outfits and stuff (until our economies collapse with so many imported junk that is).

Thanks for the share mate.

Pretty pricey, but lifetime warranty and ridiculous quality. Not very many knife manufacturers use quality steel. I've got a model 557 that has a 154cm steel blade; nicest knife I have ever owned.

Manufacturing outsource is another way to boost their income, lower cost and lesser tax or maybe 0 tax since it is outsource. Quality control personnel are present, yet the problem is how do you expect dedication and quality of work from them if their salary is low as well.  

Forget about the price, lifetime warranty and quality is priceless as long as it's not lost or maybe misplaced.   

I don't blame it on the workers, for 30 USD/mo in average that's exactly a "you get what you paid for". I blame it on the corps. which "boost their income" in such way.

Misplaced...till you found out that its pinned already to somebody's stomach, LOL  :D

I've been rocking the same knife for about eight years, and before that I had another benchmade that I gave to a farmer in Nicaragua after he let me sleep on his porch for a few weeks. I swear by them.

This looks cooler :D  (sarcasm) http://www.amazon.com/Victorinox-Swiss-Army-SwissChamp-XAVT/dp/B000QGF986

Yep, it's pretty hard to buy any electronics component - whether high or low quality - which hasn't intersected with Foxconn at some point during manufacture and the majority of their factories are in China.  They may be the only company in the world which has suicide prevention nets at their factory.  What a claim to fame.

There's an even goofier one that is like, a foot wide. I think they were made as a store 'demo of every tool available' type thing.

http://cdn.coolest-gadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/gig-swiss-knife.jpg

Saw that shit on storage wars. Yeah, I was that bored...

This one's a multiple count in illegal possession of deadly weapon. LOL  :D

Happy chinese new year anyway. Kung Hei Fat Choi.  :)

It is you get what you pay for. If I buy something for a few dollars I don't exept it to last very long. Part of the blame might fall on those who order and desing, some stuff just isn't made to last to increase sales...

Agree, we'll its a lesson learnt.  :)

It's called "Planned Obsolescence".

Learn more about it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1xt4nEvipg

Just wonderin if china porcelains are of great quality.

Research+pay about same as from western... ;D No I don't realy know...

I guess you are trolling but....

The US has made low quality products at times as Japan has as well.  In the 70's Japanese stuff really started to improve.  We really did say "cheap Japanese crap" back then.   In the 90's it was considered the best and in my mind recently has started to pull back in quality. 

Same thing for Korean products.  When the Hyundai accent came to America it was just one (big) notch ahead of the Yugo.  It was junk.  Now Hyundai makes some of the best cars (right here in the USA even). 

I currently can not think of many products that are US made that are of low quality.  In the 80's many American cars really sucked, but by the mid late nineties that started to change.  Today, American made cars are pretty close in quality to foreign cars, and in many cases the variances between models are greater then the variances between brands. 

One thing nobody has brought up is that pretty much everything is made in China.

High end, well built products from Dell, Apple, pretty much any tech product?  All made in China, and all great quality.  The problem is not the Chinese, they are perfectly capable of building fantastic stuff.  The problem is when a company does not want the added expense of high quality production.

Completely false. Pretty much everything is assembled in China, thus the "Made in China" labels, but most of the parts are made in other countries. The iPhone, for example, is "Made in China," but China only contributes about $6.50 to the overall cost of the phone by putting the parts together. The parts themselves are made in Japan, Germany, Korea, Vietnam, etc.

Edit: Found the article http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704828104576021142902413796.html

True.  And now many of the A5 chips (The cpu) are made in the USA.  The article is wrong though, some other parts are made in China as well that bring the China content well over $6.50. 

Our lord made world....and the rest was made in China.  :D

I bought shoes for €9 from China (including shipping). It's been a year of full time using them now, and the soles are starting to get thin. I think in a few months I'll need new ones.

This is actually better than the €50 I spent on a pair of shoes here in Europe, that lasted 2 years.

Nice to hear that there still are products in China that has great quality.

A lot of hardware is produced in china, and it is of high-quality

What I have found to be poor quality from China are tools.  I have bought a number of cheap screwdrivers and had them fall apart within a day of use.  Compare that to a Craftsman brand that has lasted most of my lifetime.   I bet there are very good brands of Chinese made tools, but you need to watch out for the cheap stuff.  In many ways I would call them fake tools because they are not hardened properly (or at all!). 

According to Wiki and some web searches, Craftsman now manufactures a lot of their tools in China as well. I guess it's not the country, but the company, after all.

well counterfeit products from china don't have the same regulations and therefore there are no checks on the quality of these products

I've never had any problems with my:

iPod Touch
iPod Nano (various generations)
Macbook Pro unibody
Macbook Air (sold for the Macbook Pro)
iPad 2

All made in China.

As I said a few posts above, only assembled in China. Most of the things you mentioned are made around the world, with china providing assembly only.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=59882.msg713133#msg713133

I agree.

True, what can one expect from cheap tools/things anyway.  :)

I mad a typo. I meant "Craftsman NOW manufactures a lot of their tools in China," not "Craftsman NOT manufactures a lot of their tools in China"

Cool, lots of typos on other thread, you might be interested in checking all of them.  :)

Is HP and Dell also manufactured in China? Just curios.

I just like Japans Toshiba, its tough.

Considering that for a "post Steve Jobs return" Apple user the most important "feature" is the Apple sticker attached to it, I don't see what difference it makes if it's made in China or elsewhere... as long as the glue is good enough.