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Title: Report: Russia to Begin Moon Colonization by 2030
Post by: Wilikon on May 08, 2014, 09:40:14 PM


Russia has drafted a program for colonization of the moon, and plans to send the first expeditions to build a permanent lunar base in 2030, the Russian Izvestia daily said Thursday, citing an official document.

"The moon is a space object for the future exploration by terrestrial civilization, and a geopolitical competition for the Moon's natural resources may begin in the 21st century," said a report on a potential lunar program prepared by the Russian Academy of Sciences, the Roscosmos space agency and Moscow State University.
The program aims to build an inhabited moon base and testing ground by the middle of the century, which would allow mineral extraction on Earth's only natural satellite.

The project calls on developing a range of long-distance space technology to ensure the country can explore the moon independently from foreign partners. Earlier proposals for lunar exploration focused on strong international cooperation, as it was believed no single country could afford interplanetary projects on its own.
Russia will plan separate three- or four-year-long lunar projects for the next 16 years, according to the plan. The first four will take place between 2016 and 2025 and will focus on defining the physical and chemical composition of the moons south pole, where the future base will be sited. Space roundtrips are scheduled for 2028-30, and manned lunar exploration for 2030-40.

The first stage will cost the government 28.5 billion roubles ($800 million), Izvestia said.
Previous lunar expeditions, which started with the USSR's Luna program in 1959 and the US landing the first man on the Moon 10 years later, discovered aluminum, iron, titanium, rare earths and other minerals.

http://en.ria.ru/russia/20140508/189666959/Russia-to-Begin-Moon-Colonization-in-2030--Report.html






Title: Re: Report: Russia to Begin Moon Colonization by 2030
Post by: Captain America on May 09, 2014, 03:43:10 AM
Russians need to calm down! It is ridiculous!

IMO, they are too arrogant. First they try to conquer the Ukraine and then the Moon. What is next?


Title: Re: Report: Russia to Begin Moon Colonization by 2030
Post by: bryant.coleman on May 09, 2014, 06:13:45 AM
IMO, they are too arrogant. First they try to conquer the Ukraine and then the Moon. What is next?

Don't know.... Mars may be?

And talking of conquering other nations... do you find this list interesting?

1949 Greece
1952 Cuba
1953 Iran
1953 British Guyana
1954 Guatemala
1955 South Vietnam
1957 Haiti
1958 Laos
1960 South Korea
1960 Laos
1960 Ecuador.
1963 Dominican Republic
1963 South Vietnam
1963 Honduras
1963 Guatemala
1963 Ecuador.
1964 Brazil
1964 Bolivia
1965 Zaire.
1966 Ghana
1967 Greece
1970 Cambodia
1970 Bolivia
1972 El Salvador
1973 Chile
1979 South Korea (Pro-USA government wanted)
1980 Liberia
1982 Chad
1983 Grenada
1987 Fiji.
2002 Venezuela.
2004 Haiti
2009 Honduras
2013 Egypt


Title: Re: Report: Russia to Begin Moon Colonization by 2030
Post by: Elwar on May 09, 2014, 06:16:38 AM
So Russia....

to da moon?


Title: Re: Report: Russia to Begin Moon Colonization by 2030
Post by: u9y42 on May 09, 2014, 08:46:42 AM
Don't know.... Mars may be?

And talking of conquering other nations... do you find this list interesting?

[...]

I think you're missing a few in there... certainly before 1949, and in between those. ::)

Anyway, too bad there isn't much of an international cooperation anymore, but we need stuff like this to move forward. Plus, this will no doubt put pressure on western governments to invest more in space programs.


Title: Re: Report: Russia to Begin Moon Colonization by 2030
Post by: TheDoors on May 09, 2014, 09:14:41 AM
It sounds crazy..Russia has to face the fact, that it will take whole lot of money..Or Putin will sponsor it from his own wallet? Feels like they are back to USSR.. ;D ;D


Title: Re: Report: Russia to Begin Moon Colonization by 2030
Post by: Nemo1024 on May 09, 2014, 09:22:42 AM
This news item on RT:

Russia will begin Moon colonization in 2030 - draft space program
http://rt.com/news/157800-russia-moon-colonization-plan/

Quote
“Moon is a space object of the future reclamation by Earth civilization, and in XXI century there might be a geopolitical competition for lunar natural resources,” the authors of the draft project state in the opening line.

This is why it is important to focus on creating an arsenal of necessary means in advance, they stress.

 “The Moon is not an intermediate point in the race,” Russia’s Deputy PM Dmitry Rogozin who is in charge of space and defence industries said back in April. “This process has the beginning, but has no end. We are going to the moon forever.”

Good for Russia! Much of our on-Earth improvements of the last years came from space-related research. This will be a driving force for improvement of Russian economy and technology. And Russia already has a solid technological platform to build on.

PS: Here is the link to my topic that I created one the original statement by the Russian MP was mad:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=566263.0

IMO, they are too arrogant. First they try to conquer the Ukraine and then the Moon. What is next?

What Bryant said. Plus, if Russia wanted to conquer Ukraine, you would have known about it by the presence of Russian forces in Kiev and Lviv after a 10-hour campaign.
Besides, you know the joke they tell in South-East of Ukraine?
Quote
- How many Russian division would reach Kiev, if Russia invaded with 2 divisions?
- 10 or 12.


Title: Re: Report: Russia to Begin Moon Colonization by 2030
Post by: bryant.coleman on May 09, 2014, 10:19:03 AM
It sounds crazy..Russia has to face the fact, that it will take whole lot of money..Or Putin will sponsor it from his own wallet? Feels like they are back to USSR.. ;D ;D

Russia is getting $400 billion every year from the gas and oil sales. So Putin's hands are full of cash. And in fact, public debt is just around 13.4% of the GDP in Russia, when compared to 130% in the USA.


Title: Re: Report: Russia to Begin Moon Colonization by 2030
Post by: Snorek on May 09, 2014, 12:12:37 PM
It sounds almost like cold war reloaded. But as I posted on another thread, regarding colonizing Mars, I think it will be more about mining Moon's natural resources than colonization


Title: Re: Report: Russia to Begin Moon Colonization by 2030
Post by: Nemo1024 on May 09, 2014, 12:16:38 PM
Reloaded? It never ended, alas.


Title: Re: Report: Russia to Begin Moon Colonization by 2030
Post by: umair127 on May 09, 2014, 01:19:04 PM
This is funny that he said geopolital competition if the US wanted to conquer the mooon , it would have been done already and missles on there pointing at russia.   We already took samples, what does he think he gonna do with moon rocks


Title: Re: Report: Russia to Begin Moon Colonization by 2030
Post by: Nemo1024 on May 09, 2014, 01:38:07 PM
Use them to build space ships to colonise Mars?


Title: Re: Report: Russia to Begin Moon Colonization by 2030
Post by: bryant.coleman on May 09, 2014, 01:57:59 PM
Use them to build space ships to colonise Mars?

Regardless of whatever the media says, I don't believe that a human landing in Mars is possible for the next 50 years or so. Too many technical and financial issues to be sorted out.