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Im utterly and deeply confused.

My account: howzar was placed under a ban. (you are banned from posting on this forum or sending personal messages)

Could a moderator please clear up the darkness around this? Thank you.

Same reason as last time mondy. You send unsolicited pm's trying to buy people's accounts, since you've had accounts banned for it in the past you knew full well it wasn't kosher. Also really annoying to those who get them, stop it.

As soon as I tried to reason with badbear he banned mobo.  So here I am again to try and discuss about this situation.

All my posts were okay...

Is it a temp-ban or perm-ban?


You are howzar and Mobo?

I'm not sure, I've been trying to discuss the matter with badbear but he doesn't seem to be online now and banned my other account to prevent me from messaging him.


You are howzar and Mobo?
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Yes I am both.

Lol, in your signature campaign thread you forbid people from having multiple accounts... And what we see now! ;D

Those were the terms set out by the original operator/owner of the actual deal, but those terms were actually just copied directly from Ritz's thread any way.

I didn't ban you to prevent you from pm'ing me or asking questions, I banned you because YOU, the person are banned, not just an account. Not only are you a pm spammer, you continued doing it after being banned on another account (Mondy) for it. I don't really see what there is to discuss.

I'm not going to ban you just for posting in this thread though.

Multiple accounts make sense only if you're going to submit more posts than the upper limit set for the campaign. I'm curious how anyone is going to write more than 3,000 posts a month (and not get banned at that)... 8)

Not neccesarily for those reasons. I think Ritz just put that in there to make it fairer and to stop one person gaming the system in whatever way. Ironically it was monday that was the cause of Ritz's deal ceasing operation initially because he was buying multiple accounts to collect the upfront payment (though this was Ritz's fault for offering up-front payments. Also I don't think he originally stated only one account per person was allowed then).

IMO a ban should be visible in the user's profile, so campaign owners may identify rule breakers and refuse to pay them. This should solve a lot of problems.

Yeah, I think this would be a wise idea, not to mention helpful for others if people are currently in the middle of a deal or loan etc. If you can't log in or PM it could easily look like you've done a runner. It was recently discussed in one of the other ban threads in Meta.

I had previously suggested withdrawing signature privileges for members banned while using a paid sig, which would effectively do the same.

EDIT: but as hilariousandco mentioned, there are then other considerations this wouldn't help resolve.

Banned members should have a tag saying the user is currently banned. Previously banned members should also carry a "probation" tag for a set period (about a month) before returning to normal member status. That means, once they get banned, they loose a month's earnings for their sigs. If they spam again during this "probation" period, it's a permanent ban. This should be enough to deter most members from spamming.

Lol, I hope this doesn't affect your legitimacy in paying people for the Luckybit campaign.

Rest assured, if this isn't resolved, we, the operators of LuckyBit, will pay everyone that entered a deal with howzar on behalf of LuckyBit.
We would like to prevent any negative impression stemming from this problem to fall back on LuckyBit.

I'm curious if this is another account that howzar's bought? If not, why don't you start the sig campaign by yourself then? :o

Luckybitsupport official luckybit support account not another bought acc of Howzar.

Owner of LB here.
Well, this is just to confirm our post from LuckyBitSupport, since you seem to doubt even from this one. Wow, such paranoia! :)
Our two accounts, mine and LuckyBitSupport, can be linked for sure to LB in our main thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=322158).

howzar is the organizer of our sig campain. If you wonder why we didn't organize it ourselves: it is quite some specific work, so it is pretty common for operators to hire somebody for the duty. I just hope he sort all his mess, and that it stops to splash on our own campaign.


Let us repeat it again: rest all assured, what this guy started (our campaign) will be finished one way or another. People will be paid as planned anyway because they entered in a "contract" with LuckyBit, not with howzar.

I publicly apologize for the mess.

Very classy move if you ask me, makes me want to check your site out now haha.  ;D  Good luck with the campaign.

@BadBear, I've sent you a mail regarding the matter.

Thanks for the assurances from both of you. You're handling the situation correctly.😃

Case well solved.

Are signatures deal still up?
Plus you might want to cross that bonus for 100k bet, it's long gone.

You can send BTC to the site, they will help you recover the counter.

Unfortunately. Brothers,in BTT you maybe not notice to publish content  .

How much and to who?

Im still waiting a reply, BadBear.

BadBear needs to become the moderator we need. Stop being the moderator we dont want and listen to your users. All im trying to do is talk to him and yet its been around 1 week and no response whatsoever.

I've responded to you four or five times, I'm not going to waste my time repeating myself over and over just because you don't like the answer.

No, you havent replied to my latest message which you agreed you would accept as a PM.

BadBear, why arent you willing to DISCUSS this matter/

I believe he has already answered this question...

I don't think he will change his decision unless you have something new to offer.

It has now been the equivalent of 2.5 weeks which is 2.5x the usual ban for spammers on the forum boards who make hundreds of posts a day.

"Well, the first ban period is generally for 14Days , and the second time badbear bans for 60days (just telling from what i've seen)."

Is a quote from a poster recently.

BadBear my condition still stands as I stated in my PM to you.

Badbear, please for the love of this forum, just discuss things with me.

You shouldn't compared your situation with those being temp-banned for spamming, as it is not what you did.


Also, according to Badbear, this is not your first time getting banned for that reason.

He said I spammed.... according to his words

It is unfortunate to hear that you are still banned. The mods must have their reasons. I do not think you were banned for spamming on the forum, but spamming PMs. We do not know how many were sent, so we cannot comment whether it is fair or not.

But your posts on this thread every few days is not helping. May be they are thinking your ban doesn't count until you are completely away from the forum without using any alt accounts? My guess is as good as yours. The best way to resolve this, for the moment, is to let it go. Disappear for a while and see if mods will change their mind.

Good luck!

He won't change his mind when all you do is repeating yourself over and over and therefore creating even more spam!

Well, everytime must be a some reason why u got banned, mods should answer to u clearly if u ask them.

He clearly told him why.

It's actually not too bad of a site tbh :)
Anyway, no worry's about the campaign, becouse many already got paid, and there is another month ahead!