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Title: I was given negative trust from staff of BT for stirring up arguments.
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 10, 2014, 04:10:53 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=24792

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Posts constantly in what can only be an attempt to stir up trouble and arguments

Meanwhile, staff by the name of davout of InstaWallet/Bitcoin-Central/Paymium has yet to return my 1,132 BTC of which now resides in one of his bitcoin wallets.

I assume the trouble and arguments I've been attempting to stir up relates to Brock Pierce due to my postings over the course of the past week. Now that he's on The Bitcoin Foundation board, he can push his weight around and dictate what happens on this forum. I'm not versed in how such is accomplished, but I can assume that that assessment is not too far off the mark.

So, one can now get a negative trust rating for the entire world to see on BitcoinTalk for simply expressing opinions and facts.

I demand to know exactly what troubles and arguments I have attempted to spread that warrants me, a trustworthy individual, to receive negative trust from staff.

Bruno Kucinskas
406 W. Center St.
Sandwich, IL  60548

815-508-1668

I'm probably the only person on this forum that has ever publicly shown their drivers license sans masking the ID number, yet now I'm considered untrustworthy, sans taking one satoshi from anybody, yet dedicating countless hours pursuing scams and the like.

Motherfuckin' madness!

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7403/13962627138_0304861fc4_b.jpg


Title: Re: I was given negative trust from staff of BT for stirring up arguments.
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 10, 2014, 04:20:22 AM
Just because you show your name ETC. doesnt give you the right to trash ppl. i'm surprised this hasn't happened sooner. PG you are not immune to the system. Welcome to the MACHINE!

Tell me who I trashed!

There is now even a warning to others to trade with caution with me.

Madness!


Title: Re: I was given negative trust from staff of BT for stirring up arguments.
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 10, 2014, 04:32:09 AM
Just because you show your name ETC. doesnt give you the right to trash ppl. i'm surprised this hasn't happened sooner. PG you are not immune to the system. Welcome to the MACHINE!

Tell me who I trashed!

There is now even a warning to others to trade with caution with me.

Madness!
over 20,000 posts you have trashed everyone.   no offense PG you need to just shut up once in a while......you have fans but you have more that are offended by your remarks.      just refrain from  posting sometimes.


Would any of my remarks happen to pertain to Brock Pierce?


Title: Re: I was given negative trust from staff of BT for stirring up arguments.
Post by: escrow.ms on May 10, 2014, 04:52:22 AM
Your accounts seems fine to me. Trust:    0: -1 / +3(3)
-1 is in yellow.


Title: Re: I was given negative trust from staff of BT for stirring up arguments.
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 10, 2014, 05:13:37 AM
Your accounts seems fine to me. Trust:    0: -1 / +3(3)
-1 is in yellow.

See the screenshot in my earlier post above, bud?


Title: Re: I was given negative trust from staff of BT for stirring up arguments.
Post by: BadBear on May 10, 2014, 05:56:32 AM
So who is Brock Pierce and what does he have to do with the forum? Does he post here?

Edit: I see, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=602198.0
Still don't see what he has to do with the forum though. That thread is also pretty hard to read with all the Bruce drama thrown in for no reason.


Title: Re: I was given negative trust from staff of BT for stirring up arguments.
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 10, 2014, 06:17:36 AM
So who is Brock Pierce and what does he have to do with the forum? Does he post here?

http://www.coindesk.com/bobby-lee-brock-pierce-join-bitcoin-foundations-board-directors/

You could read the 115 comments, and counting, here http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/254oxh/bobby_lee_brock_pierce_join_bitcoin_foundations/ with most in agreement with my stance.

FYI, I only have one account on Reddit - PhinnaeusGage.


Title: Re: I was given negative trust from staff of BT for stirring up arguments.
Post by: tysat on May 10, 2014, 06:27:57 AM
Crap like this... you could have PMed me to ask about it, and it would have been gone!  Instead you hop up on the soap box and start shouting.

Why take the route you did if you're not just trying to stir up trouble?


Title: Re: I was given negative trust from staff of BT for stirring up arguments.
Post by: BadBear on May 10, 2014, 06:31:21 AM
Eh, well I'm with you on that. He was voted in but only members can vote so...  ::)

As for tysat, he isn't in default trust, only the extended list via Maged, Canaryinthemine, tomatocage, myself, and maybe another one or two.
So I find your assertion that it's because of Brock controlling things behind the scenes of the forum to be... dubious at best.


Title: Re: I was given negative trust from staff of BT for stirring up arguments.
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on May 10, 2014, 08:00:02 AM
Crap like this... you could have PMed me to ask about it, and it would have been gone!  Instead you hop up on the soap box and start shouting.

Why take the route you did if you're not just trying to stir up trouble?

Because accountability?


Title: Re: I was given negative trust from staff of BT for stirring up arguments.
Post by: AaronBreillat on May 10, 2014, 08:11:16 AM
I don't see why the staff are up PG's ass.

First they ban him and now this... He (mainly) posts in his own threads and all of his trolling is deserved, plus he has some very good points. He's one of the only posters that makes me stop scrolling and pay attention to what he's saying whenever I see his posts. He is a genuine asset to BitcoinTalk.

Meanwhile TradeFortress is completely free to post whatever the fuck he wants, but PG, oh no we gotta ban his ass and then mark him as a scammer!

Why mods, why?


Title: Re: I was given negative trust from staff of BT for stirring up arguments.
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 10, 2014, 08:14:43 AM
Crap like this... you could have PMed me to ask about it, and it would have been gone!  Instead you hop up on the soap box and start shouting.

Why take the route you did if you're not just trying to stir up trouble?

Outta respect for you, I opted to not mention your name. As for not coming to you first, I somehow assumed it wouldn't have been removed. If all it would have taken was a PM to get it removed, then way was their an effort to do such in the first place?

Look, with the exception of this act, I've never had the red-ass toward you and any other mod/staff with the exception of davout.

Eh, well I'm with you on that. He was voted in but only members can vote so...  ::)

As for tysat, he isn't in default trust, only the extended list via Maged, Canaryinthemine, tomatocage, myself, and maybe another one or two.
So I find your assertion that it's because of Brock controlling things behind the scenes of the forum to be... dubious at best.


I may have been off-base in my assessment of Brock somehow being behind said action, but lately I've been getting mixed signals as to what the heck is truly going on. I'm not the bad guy here, but the sentiment of late is dictating else-wise.

Most every entity I've expressed concerns about has either fallen to the wayside and can clearly be seen will, with BFL at the top of the list, but still relatively the most viable.

Entities I've been critical of in the past and possibly ongoing.

Bitcoinica
Mt Gox
Tradehill (I kinda like Keena's YouTube channel)
HashFast
AMT
BitMine
KnC (at the onset, but backed way off, but now uber-critical, but not posting much on their thread)
Several ASIC-based miner outfits that proved to be scams outta the gate.
InstaWallet (For I still have 1,132 BTC not returned to me)
Paymium, et al. for they're davout's concerns
Black Arrow
CoinTerra (on my radar)


Title: Re: I was given negative trust from staff of BT for stirring up arguments.
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 10, 2014, 08:16:07 AM
I don't see why the staff are up PG's ass.

First they ban him and now this... He (mainly) posts in his own threads and all of his trolling is deserved, plus he has some very good points. He's one of the only posters that makes me stop scrolling and pay attention to what he's saying whenever I see his posts. He is a genuine asset to BitcoinTalk.

Meanwhile TradeFortress is completely free to post whatever the fuck he wants, but PG, oh no we gotta ban his ass and then mark him as a scammer!

Why mods, why?

To be fair, I probably deserved to be banned the last time due to my actions, ergo no qualms there.


Title: Re: I was given negative trust from staff of BT for stirring up arguments.
Post by: AaronBreillat on May 10, 2014, 08:18:16 AM
Also pro tip: Notice how PG's ignore tab has no color. Clearly people want to hear what he has to say or he'd be on their ignore lists, especially with that many posts!


Title: Re: I was given negative trust from staff of BT for stirring up arguments.
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 10, 2014, 08:36:22 AM
Also pro tip: Notice how PG's ignore tab has no color. Clearly people want to hear what he has to say or he'd be on their ignore lists, especially with that many posts!

Actually, I can't see it, but assumed it was a deep orange, turned such over a year ago due to me posting heavily in the Bitcoinica threads at the time. I recall being so pissed about that, but eventually chilled on that aspect, somehow taking it as a badge of honor, though deep down I wished it wasn't such, but such is life.

I have never ignored a single person on this thread. Also, I'd be hard-press to site a time that I had to notify/bother the mods/staff with any issues. One such time was when there seem to be an honest suicide attempt in progress. I was able to do some quick Google-fu, getting lucky to find an address, and personally spoke with the local police to send somebody over. In fact, this happened twice with two different people, and luckily all ended up okay.


Title: Re: I was given negative trust from staff of BT for stirring up arguments.
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on May 10, 2014, 08:49:27 AM
Also pro tip: Notice how PG's ignore tab has no color. Clearly people want to hear what he has to say or he'd be on their ignore lists, especially with that many posts!

lol. ::)

I've had to totally disable this feature. I will fix it in a few days.


Title: Re: I was given negative trust from staff of BT for stirring up arguments.
Post by: BadBear on May 10, 2014, 08:50:43 AM
Also pro tip: Notice how PG's ignore tab has no color. Clearly people want to hear what he has to say or he'd be on their ignore lists, especially with that many posts!

Pro tip for you, that feature is disabled.  I don't remember if it was colored when it wasn't though.



Title: Re: I was given negative trust from staff of BT for stirring up arguments.
Post by: hilariousandco on May 10, 2014, 08:56:06 AM
Also pro tip: Notice how PG's ignore tab has no color. Clearly people want to hear what he has to say or he'd be on their ignore lists, especially with that many posts!

Pro tip for you, that feature is disabled.  I don't remember if it was colored when it wasn't though.



It certainly was. I'm glad it was disabled though or mine would probably be glowing just as bright right now.


Title: Re: I was given negative trust from staff of BT for stirring up arguments.
Post by: railzand on May 10, 2014, 09:00:58 AM
I've seen people get neg trust for things like 'necroed an old thread'.

It's like, trust system is broken, let's abuse it.

Stirring up argumments ffs has nothing to do with trading

I trust you, Bruno. Tysat proved himself untrustworthy.


Title: Re: I was given negative trust from staff of BT for stirring up arguments.
Post by: AaronBreillat on May 10, 2014, 09:05:06 AM
Maybe we should rename the Trust system to Opinion system, its more fitting tbh.


Title: Re: I was given negative trust from staff of BT for stirring up arguments.
Post by: oureptsC on May 10, 2014, 11:21:45 AM
You can only try to solve it peacefully or by reasoning with him as it can't be removed as the system isn't moderated.


Title: Re: I was given negative trust from staff of BT for stirring up arguments.
Post by: counter on May 10, 2014, 11:56:07 AM
You can only try to solve it peacefully or by reasoning with him as it can't be removed as the system isn't moderated.

I wonder if the system needs a new model for it to work correctly.  This is yet another time I've heard about someone getting negative trust for the wrong reason.  Not saying that is the case just may need the attention it deserves so people aren't being misled by a false trade history.


Title: Re: I was given negative trust from staff of BT for stirring up arguments.
Post by: tysat on May 10, 2014, 02:12:08 PM
The negative trust rating has been removed.

The reason it was put there in the first place... wasn't in the best mood (not the best day at work) and saw another PG inflammatory post.  There's a big difference calling for a witch hunt right away rather than laying out the facts and letting people decide for themselves.  And really I just left the neg trust to see what would happen, it has nothing to do with TBF pulling strings... I'm not even a fan of TBF.