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Title: I was banned for a week. Back with my 2 cents
Post by: alani123 on May 10, 2014, 02:00:48 PM
First of all you should know that I didn't came here to complain about being banned. I've already taken a look to other threads on the same topic that mods replied to and I know what their stance is on bans.

There is too much spam in the forum. Theymos suggested some new changes to the signatures so older members are better advertisers than new members. But this resulted to older members being paid with exremely high rates per post and in the end it was them spaming the forum. The idea was to make us think that by posting too much we would put our account in a risk of getting banned.

So why am I making this post? I'm not going to go through my personal opinion. I'm not going to try to change someone's mind. I'm not going to say that mods should't ban people because of spam.

I'm making this post just to point out that there aready are many tools mods can use in order to prevent spam in the forum before banning someone and that they have no excuse to ban people as the easy way to raise awareness against spam through terror.

I'm sure most of you already know about those tools below. Why aren't they used yet in order to prevent spam instead of banning accounts without a warning?

Stickys:A thread pinned in the top of a board. Already used in some of the forum's sections. It should be the first thing to do if mods or users feel like a sections gets bloated with spam posts or is just used by sig campaign participants to increase their post count. Sticky posts could be used to describe exactly what is considered spam and what type of posts are unwelcome to each section of the forum.

Engouraging changes in the OP:Something similar as what was done in the yellowcoin post. A warning was posted as a reply from a mod and it was quoted in the Original Post to prevent further spam through replies.

Post editing:If the previous step is not possible mods can be more aggressive and change posts themselves. Some mods have the ability to edit original posts. I've seen this before, (please correct me if I'm wrong) so how would this work? If you feel like a post is getting abused there is the possibility to modify the original text in the Original Post by adding a warning or a message.

Warnings: Messages posted above threads, usualy in the securities section such as this one: Warning: Moderators do not remove likely scams. You must use your own brain: caveat emptor. Watch out for Ponzi schemes. Do not invest more than you can afford to lose.

A warning of this type could be used for posts that are are flooded with spam.

Thread locking/deleting:If a thread has nothing to give rather than crappy replies and even encourages them mods can lock it or move it to the trashcan.

That's all from my part. There might be more things mods can do. Please feel free to contribute to the discussion if you have an idea or disagree with something.
ps
I know that it's not pleasant for mods to ban, accounts and that's why I created this post. Bans were used as the final solution to this problem but I believe that all those things mentioned in this post should be used before someone has to get banned.


Good day people.


Title: Re: I was banned for a week. Back with my 2 cents
Post by: Lauda on May 10, 2014, 03:47:25 PM
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Activity: 308
Posts: 470
This number of posts doesn't seem to me like you are a spammer (note: I didn't check your posts individually). I also think that it is a bit wrong, especially for older members (I know I'm one too, but still). I was actually a bit surprised by the number of bans handed out. I like how certain members reach more posts that we do even before they become seniors, some severe spam going on these (hilariousandco, not you) I'm talking about thousands and thousands of posts in a short period of time.


Title: Re: I was banned for a week. Back with my 2 cents
Post by: mprep on May 10, 2014, 04:40:40 PM
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Engouraging changes in the OP:Something similar as what was done in the yellowcoin post. A warning was posted as a reply from a mod and it was quoted in the Original Post to prevent further spam through replies.
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You are the second person to have noticed my post. Just in a good way. Back on topic, I'm not really sure if that helped. Even after the warning I had to hand out over a couple of dozens of bans to those posting the exact same response I've warned about.


Title: Re: I was banned for a week. Back with my 2 cents
Post by: alani123 on May 11, 2014, 10:51:35 AM
Well mprep a single post obviously can't be enough. There are more things than just that to be done to raise awarness about spam before truly having to ban an account.


Title: Re: I was banned for a week. Back with my 2 cents
Post by: PCUser on May 11, 2014, 12:30:45 PM
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Activity: 308
Posts: 470
This number of posts doesn't seem to me like you are a spammer (note: I didn't check your posts individually). I also think that it is a bit wrong, especially for older members (I know I'm one too, but still). I was actually a bit surprised by the number of bans handed out. I like how certain members reach more posts that we do even before they become seniors, some severe spam going on these (hilariousandco, not you, I'm talking about thousands and thousands of posts in a short period of time.

this your post is the best example when so small letters attract the most attention