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Economy => Economics => Topic started by: BTC King on May 12, 2014, 03:10:26 PM



Title: Forbes 2014 btc prediction
Post by: BTC King on May 12, 2014, 03:10:26 PM
What you guys think of this article ? http://www.forbes.com/sites/samanthasharf/2014/01/15/10-one-perspective-on-what-bitcoin-will-be-worth-in-2014/


Title: Re: Forbes 2014 btc prediction
Post by: bitebits on May 12, 2014, 09:29:04 PM
What do you think?


Title: Re: Forbes 2014 btc prediction
Post by: phillipsjk on May 12, 2014, 09:36:47 PM
I am thinking of setting a price alert at $320 so I can buy up coins around $300.

I predicted in early November we would never see $300 again (but did not actually make a leveraged bet). I would hate to be wrong ;)

Edit: this clued me in that the article is 3 months old:
Quote from: The Bitcoin Rat
I’m already ‘in print’ with a large wager challenge to Mr Williams that Bitcoin will be trading on MtGox closer to $1000 than $10 by 1st May 2014 – so far he hasnt had the “balls” to take up the challenge.


Title: Re: Forbes 2014 btc prediction
Post by: jbrnt on May 12, 2014, 10:16:57 PM
I think it is a fair review. "Majority if all coins are held by a small group of people" is very true indeed, and early adopters are become speculators  :D

What is worth noting is that the writer seems to believe bitcoin has a low chance of mass adoption and another crypto will replace bitcoin with all the flaws corrected.


Title: Re: Forbes 2014 btc prediction
Post by: odolvlobo on May 13, 2014, 12:10:35 AM
The article is worthless. It is based on a fallacy:

Quote
Just 47 people own 29% of all outstanding Bitcoins; 930 own 50%. Another 10,000 folks bring the total owned by the largest coin holders to roughly 75%, leaving a sliver to be split among about 1 million small-change Bitcoiners.

Addresses =/= people.


Title: Re: Forbes 2014 btc prediction
Post by: aminorex on May 13, 2014, 04:20:47 AM
I think it is a fair review. "Majority if all coins are held by a small group of people" is very true indeed, and early adopters are become speculators  :D

What is worth noting is that the writer seems to believe bitcoin has a low chance of mass adoption and another crypto will replace bitcoin with all the flaws corrected.

And if you want to buy that new watershed crypto while it is still cheap, you will be using....BTC.  Best to stock up on BTC while it is still cheap.


Title: Re: Forbes 2014 btc prediction
Post by: BittersNVermouth on May 13, 2014, 04:48:02 AM
Here Here! get them while they are cheap! ;D


Title: Re: Forbes 2014 btc prediction
Post by: sana8410 on May 13, 2014, 12:06:25 PM
What you guys think of this article ? http://www.forbes.com/sites/samanthasharf/2014/01/15/10-one-perspective-on-what-bitcoin-will-be-worth-in-2014/
This author knows nothing about Bitcoin. Bitcoin is a deflationary currency and can never be inflated. It’s amazing how people can get paid to write about a subject they know nothing about. Bitcoin is unique in that it is free from borders and government interference, and is already backed by immense distributed computing power that offers you a guarantee on the integrity of transactions.


Title: Re: Forbes 2014 btc prediction
Post by: devphp on May 13, 2014, 12:38:15 PM
This author knows nothing about Bitcoin. Bitcoin is a deflationary currency and can never be inflated.

It seems you have your definitions mixed up a bit.

Purely deflationary currency means its supply is frozen. Technically Bitcoin is inflationary, because new supply is constantly added to the market. If demand exceeds this supply, there can be periods of deflation, when prices drop, but this is deflation of goods priced in that currency. However monetary inflation of Bitcoin is still there, although it may not be visible. Here is a link for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monetary_inflation

Only Proof-of-Stake currencies can be considered deflationary in the strict meaning of this word, because their supply is fixed and not growing after genesis block.

Bitcoin will become deflationary when the last bitcoin has been mined into existance, but it's still a few years away.


Title: Re: Forbes 2014 btc prediction
Post by: Lauda on May 13, 2014, 08:08:42 PM
This author knows nothing about Bitcoin. Bitcoin is a deflationary currency and can never be inflated.

It seems you have your definitions mixed up a bit.

Purely deflationary currency means its supply is frozen. Technically Bitcoin is inflationary, because new supply is constantly added to the market. If demand exceeds this supply, there can be periods of deflation, when prices drop, but this is deflation of goods priced in that currency. However monetary inflation of Bitcoin is still there, although it may not be visible. Here is a link for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monetary_inflation

Only Proof-of-Stake currencies can be considered deflationary in the strict meaning of this word, because their supply is fixed and not growing after genesis block.

Bitcoin will become deflationary when the last bitcoin has been mined into existance, but it's still a few years away.
POS coins are deflationary?  :D You have no clue what you're talking about.
Here you go, read about a POS coin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peercoin


Title: Re: Forbes 2014 btc prediction
Post by: RodeoX on May 13, 2014, 08:16:16 PM
Their 2011 prediction was that bitcoin can't work because it's not backed by anything. Why should I care about their guess now?


Title: Re: Forbes 2014 btc prediction
Post by: Robin_Good on May 14, 2014, 03:07:04 AM
I don't trust to predictions of Forbes!
Bitcoin is a complex system, whose development depends on many factors. IMO, Bitcoin is perspective


Title: Re: Forbes 2014 btc prediction
Post by: devphp on May 14, 2014, 05:10:30 AM
POS coins are deflationary?  :D You have no clue what you're talking about.
Here you go, read about a POS coin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peercoin

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/2727748211/c3d0981ae770f926eedf4eda7505b006.jpeg


Title: Re: Forbes 2014 btc prediction
Post by: Siegfried on May 14, 2014, 05:44:30 AM
POS coins are deflationary?  :D You have no clue what you're talking about.
Here you go, read about a POS coin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peercoin

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/2727748211/c3d0981ae770f926eedf4eda7505b006.jpeg

Is that a real human?


Title: Re: Forbes 2014 btc prediction
Post by: DhaniBoy on May 14, 2014, 06:57:32 AM
lol forbes
i see many interesting comment in that site
he knows nothing about BTC, and make statement like that
nobody believe that


Title: Re: Forbes 2014 btc prediction
Post by: bitcoinboy163 on May 15, 2014, 04:12:52 AM
i think btc will reach the price at 5000 usd


Title: Re: Forbes 2014 btc prediction
Post by: spring.yu on May 15, 2014, 05:47:51 AM
Bitcoin is a complex system, whose development depends on many factors. IMO, Bitcoin is perspective


Title: Re: Forbes 2014 btc prediction
Post by: Midwestbitcoiner on May 15, 2014, 06:02:36 AM
i think btc will reach the price at 5000 usd

I think it is a long ride to 5k.  No doubt it gets there, but honestly, I do not see it in the next 2 years


Title: Re: Forbes 2014 btc prediction
Post by: RCHumphrey on May 17, 2014, 01:13:28 PM
i think btc will reach the price at 5000 usd

I think it is a long ride to 5k.  No doubt it gets there, but honestly, I do not see it in the next 2 years

I think by the end of July if there is no recovery you'd be correct but if it starts picking up and breaks the $1k barrier again who knows...



Title: Re: Forbes 2014 btc prediction
Post by: hensi on May 19, 2014, 02:06:45 PM
There's nothing much to think, forbes is generally correct


Title: Re: Forbes 2014 btc prediction
Post by: Bitcopia on May 19, 2014, 02:53:58 PM
There's nothing much to think, forbes is generally correct

Yup, especially when they predicted Bitcoin would fail in 2011 because it wasn't backed by anything.  ::)

Making the assumption that something is worthless because it isn't backed by anything is ridiculous. What is Apple backed by? Facebook? Pay Pal? Bank of America? my laptop? your car? They are backed by nothing other than the people who work for them and believe in them, but they all have value because they all provide or are useful services or tools. Bitcoin is a useful service and tool. It truly blows my mind how some "prominent" economists don't understand this. Maybe they're failing to understand the speculation aspect of Bitcoin as investment in Bitcoin more as a distributed autonomous corporation than as a currency. It's more likely they can't fathom the idea of a DAC in the first place because their institutions of higher education never spoke of such a thing and their careers never inspired much creative thought.

Forbes also has a vast number of contributing authors. Jon Matonis used to contribute to Forbes. They have articles on both sides of the fence about Bitcoin, because they don't have a stance. They just publish whatever they think people will read.


Title: Re: Forbes 2014 btc prediction
Post by: IIOII on May 19, 2014, 04:52:23 PM
Big surprise: Former FED employee bearish on bitcoin. :D

The article cites conspiracy claims of Williams ("47 powers coordinated to push prices up"). Not a single proof is given to support these claims. Nonetheless they are portrayed as facts ("As these facts and questions enter the wider consciousness, ....").

Ridiculous propaganda.


Title: Re: Forbes 2014 btc prediction
Post by: Unluckyduck on May 20, 2014, 07:12:19 AM
Ahh is this good old professor bitcorn?  ::)


Title: Re: Forbes 2014 btc prediction
Post by: Corporate on May 20, 2014, 12:34:18 PM
What forbes fails to see is that bitcoin does not depend on previous transactions to calculate cost.
It is simply what people are willing to pay for them.

Maybe they are right about these "power players", maybe even some are amongst this community   ;)
... but nonetheless, regardless of the quantity they flood the market with, as long as there is still demand, there is still price.

Forbes is banking on the fact that these BTC entrepreneurs are going to sell their BitCoin... If someone is smart *or lucky* enough to be sitting on a hoard of BTC, do you really think they would be stupid enough to sell all their BTC at once?  ::)

BitCoin is only on the rise, hold on tight... Dont let go  8)


Title: Re: Forbes 2014 btc prediction
Post by: skaffen on May 20, 2014, 01:27:48 PM
That article is from January.  Something would have to go drastically wrong for the price to hit the $10 mark predicted in it.


Title: Re: Forbes 2014 btc prediction
Post by: TimeWatch on May 20, 2014, 04:05:43 PM
It's nothing bad that bitcoin is open source, It shows generally for everyone that bitcoin Is strong, there are a lot of ALTs but Bitcoin  Is leading without any competitors. And I don't see bitcoin going to $10 in anyway.


Title: Re: Forbes 2014 btc prediction
Post by: atp1916 on May 20, 2014, 06:55:36 PM
Here's another thread discussing that article: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=378368.0

Here is what i think of Mark Williams:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=378368.msg6085846#msg6085846