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Title: Is there a Forbes bitcoin millionaire/billionaire list or upcoming?
Post by: cuddaloreappu on May 14, 2014, 09:21:40 AM
Wish if there is  a list of those who made great fortunes and became millionaires with bitcoin... So is there such a list at forbes or are they trying to make one?


Title: Re: Is there a Forbes bitcoin millionaire/billionaire list or upcoming?
Post by: blatchcorn on May 14, 2014, 09:23:58 AM
No


Title: Re: Is there a Forbes bitcoin millionaire/billionaire list or upcoming?
Post by: cuddaloreappu on May 14, 2014, 09:26:15 AM
So why doesnt forbes give a f***...Do they think bitcoin is just kids stuff


Title: Re: Is there a Forbes bitcoin millionaire/billionaire list or upcoming?
Post by: Elwar on May 14, 2014, 09:28:42 AM
The Bitcoin rich list has stopped working, but I did find this:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=321265.0
(outdated)
1.  BTC980,000*. Satoshi Nakamoto

2.  BTC400,000*. HD Moore (AHA)

3.  BTC400,000*. Dustin D. Trammell (AHA)

4.  BTC400,000*. Tod Beardsley (AHA)

5.  BTC350,000*. "Dread Pirate Roberts" a.k.a. "DPR"

6.  BTC300,000.  Roger Ver

7.  BTC300,000*. "knightmb"

8.  BTC200,000. Mark Karpeles

8.5  BTC182,592. "Loaded"

9.  BTC174,000*. FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation, USA)

10.  BTC119,000. AsicMiner Management Team of 3 (names?)

11.  BTC110,000. Cameron and Tyler Winklevoss

12.  BTC100,000. "klaus"

13.  BTC100,000. "mezzomix"

14.  BTC75,000. "artforz"

15.  BTC70,000. Erik Voorhees

17.  BTC30,000. "nakowa"

18.  BTC30,000. Mircea Popescu

19.  BTC30,000. "Goat"

20.  BTC25,000. Chamath Palihapitiya

21.  BTC25,000. Gavin Andresen

22.  BTC20,000. Max Keiser

23.  BTC20,000. "Theymos"


Title: Re: Is there a Forbes bitcoin millionaire/billionaire list or upcoming?
Post by: cuddaloreappu on May 14, 2014, 09:48:47 AM
The Bitcoin rich list has stopped working, but I did find this:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=321265.0
(outdated)
1.  BTC980,000*. Satoshi Nakamoto

2.  BTC400,000*. HD Moore (AHA)

3.  BTC400,000*. Dustin D. Trammell (AHA)

4.  BTC400,000*. Tod Beardsley (AHA)

5.  BTC350,000*. "Dread Pirate Roberts" a.k.a. "DPR"

6.  BTC300,000.  Roger Ver

7.  BTC300,000*. "knightmb"

8.  BTC200,000. Mark Karpeles

8.5  BTC182,592. "Loaded"

9.  BTC174,000*. FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation, USA)

10.  BTC119,000. AsicMiner Management Team of 3 (names?)

11.  BTC110,000. Cameron and Tyler Winklevoss

12.  BTC100,000. "klaus"

13.  BTC100,000. "mezzomix"

14.  BTC75,000. "artforz"

15.  BTC70,000. Erik Voorhees

17.  BTC30,000. "nakowa"

18.  BTC30,000. Mircea Popescu

19.  BTC30,000. "Goat"

20.  BTC25,000. Chamath Palihapitiya

21.  BTC25,000. Gavin Andresen

22.  BTC20,000. Max Keiser

23.  BTC20,000. "Theymos"



Thanks for the awesome info


Title: Re: Is there a Forbes bitcoin millionaire/billionaire list or upcoming?
Post by: hilariousandco on May 14, 2014, 09:53:06 AM
The Bitcoin rich list has stopped working, but I did find this:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=321265.0
(outdated)

Most of that list was never correct in the first place as there was never really any sources, and when there was they were second-hand or speculative at best.


Title: Re: Is there a Forbes bitcoin millionaire/billionaire list or upcoming?
Post by: Light on May 14, 2014, 09:55:24 AM
It will be quite a long time before Forbes will release a rich list and even then it won't include many large stashes that have not been identified. Unlike fiat where asset value can be estimated and it isn't too difficult to work out who owns what - with Bitcoin many of them don't have any name attached and I'd doubt anyone would come forward to prove they actually own the coins.


Title: Re: Is there a Forbes bitcoin millionaire/billionaire list or upcoming?
Post by: trynmpo on May 14, 2014, 09:59:11 AM
Most of them are the early adopter !!


Title: Re: Is there a Forbes bitcoin millionaire/billionaire list or upcoming?
Post by: hilariousandco on May 14, 2014, 09:59:19 AM
It will be quite a long time before Forbes will release a rich list and even then it won't include many large stashes that have not been identified. Unlike fiat where asset value can be estimated and it isn't too difficult to work out who owns what - with Bitcoin many of them don't have any name attached and I'd doubt anyone would come forward to prove they actually own the coins.

True, but I wonder when the first bitcoin millionaire (or billionaire) will be included on there? Maybe Satoshi will one day wind up on the list, but I guess without confirmation that he could be several people it'll automatically invalidate him from the list.


Title: Re: Is there a Forbes bitcoin millionaire/billionaire list or upcoming?
Post by: Light on May 14, 2014, 10:07:54 AM
True, but I wonder when the first bitcoin millionaire (or billionaire) will be included on there? Maybe Satoshi will one day wind up on the list, but I guess without confirmation that he could be several people it'll automatically invalidate him from the list.

If there was a list I would think it would be better to have it in terms of BTC rather than fiat as the value of BTC to fiat fluctuates so significantly. Some of the coins we attribute to Satoshi have to be him from the sheer fact there was no one else mining - but there are some early blocks that could very easily be disputed. I don't see why we couldnt include Satoshi as long as the possibility of it being more than a single person is acknowledged.


Title: Re: Is there a Forbes bitcoin millionaire/billionaire list or upcoming?
Post by: hilariousandco on May 14, 2014, 10:13:56 AM
True, but I wonder when the first bitcoin millionaire (or billionaire) will be included on there? Maybe Satoshi will one day wind up on the list, but I guess without confirmation that he could be several people it'll automatically invalidate him from the list.

If there was a list I would think it would be better to have it in terms of BTC rather than fiat as the value of BTC to fiat fluctuates so significantly. Some of the coins we attribute to Satoshi have to be him from the sheer fact there was no one else mining - but there are some early blocks that could very easily be disputed. I don't see why we couldnt include Satoshi as long as the possibility of it being more than a single person is acknowledged.

True, but it's also possible that he lost access to those coins or is possibly even deceased so it'll be hard to even put an exact figure/value on his ownings.


Title: Re: Is there a Forbes bitcoin millionaire/billionaire list or upcoming?
Post by: Elwar on May 14, 2014, 10:17:17 AM
Most of them are the early adopter !!

and?


Title: Re: Is there a Forbes bitcoin millionaire/billionaire list or upcoming?
Post by: 1Referee on May 14, 2014, 11:17:14 AM
High Roller Nakowa still have 30K BTC ? didn't he lose most of them with gambling ?


Title: Re: Is there a Forbes bitcoin millionaire/billionaire list or upcoming?
Post by: dreamspark on May 14, 2014, 11:21:03 AM
I'd imagine that it would be a while before being a BTC millionaire gets you on the rich list.

In regard to that rich list, i'd take it with a grain of salt. Its speculative at best.


Title: Re: Is there a Forbes bitcoin millionaire/billionaire list or upcoming?
Post by: johnyj on May 14, 2014, 12:14:21 PM
Today's Forbes list is a joke, it does not list all the reserve bankers in the world, who are actually many magnitudes richer than Bill Gates or Buffet


Title: Re: Is there a Forbes bitcoin millionaire/billionaire list or upcoming?
Post by: FeedbackLoop on May 14, 2014, 12:41:35 PM
Today's Forbes list is a joke, it does not list all the reserve bankers in the world, who are actually many magnitudes richer than Bill Gates or Buffet

Yeah, I never understood how someone could take that list seriously...

Also, bankers certainly crowd the top but I wouldn't be surprised if there were even a few hundred tech-industry types like Bill Gates richer than Bill Gates not listed since it seems rather standard for corps and individuals above a certain networth to simply not have anything to their name. See the video that has been posted around on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4o13isDdfY



Title: Re: Is there a Forbes bitcoin millionaire/billionaire list or upcoming?
Post by: hensi on May 14, 2014, 12:56:20 PM
I would want to be on the top of that list


Title: Re: Is there a Forbes bitcoin millionaire/billionaire list or upcoming?
Post by: cuddaloreappu on May 14, 2014, 03:05:13 PM
Today's Forbes list is a joke, it does not list all the reserve bankers in the world, who are actually many magnitudes richer than Bill Gates or Buffet

who are those reserve bankers


Title: Re: Is there a Forbes bitcoin millionaire/billionaire list or upcoming?
Post by: Gumble99 on May 14, 2014, 03:10:27 PM
I think fobres will include bitcoins millionaires-billionaires when BTC will be more accredited worldwide, not everyone thinks bitcoins is a serious virtual currency and our bitcoin community  Is really small compared to worldwide markets.


Title: Re: Is there a Forbes bitcoin millionaire/billionaire list or upcoming?
Post by: hdbuck on May 14, 2014, 03:26:34 PM
The Bitcoin rich list has stopped working, but I did find this:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=321265.0
(outdated)
1.  BTC980,000*. Satoshi Nakamoto

8 2.  BTC200,000. 600 000 Mark Karpeles

2.  BTC400,000*. HD Moore (AHA)

3.  BTC400,000*. Dustin D. Trammell (AHA)

4.  BTC400,000*. Tod Beardsley (AHA)

5.  BTC350,000*. "Dread Pirate Roberts" a.k.a. "DPR"

6.  BTC300,000.  Roger Ver

7.  BTC300,000*. "knightmb"

8.5  BTC182,592. "Loaded"

9.  BTC174,000*. FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation, USA)

10.  BTC119,000. AsicMiner Management Team of 3 (names?)

11.  BTC110,000. Cameron and Tyler Winklevoss

12.  BTC100,000. "klaus"

13.  BTC100,000. "mezzomix"

14.  BTC75,000. "artforz"

15.  BTC70,000. Erik Voorhees

17.  BTC30,000. "nakowa"

18.  BTC30,000. Mircea Popescu

19.  BTC30,000. "Goat"

20.  BTC25,000. Chamath Palihapitiya

21.  BTC25,000. Gavin Andresen

22.  BTC20,000. Max Keiser

23.  BTC20,000. "Theymos"



FTFY ;D


Title: Re: Is there a Forbes bitcoin millionaire/billionaire list or upcoming?
Post by: DannyHamilton on May 14, 2014, 03:27:21 PM
It is impossible to be a bitcoin billionaire.  There will never be more than 21 million bitcoins.



Title: Re: Is there a Forbes bitcoin millionaire/billionaire list or upcoming?
Post by: mktrader on May 14, 2014, 03:32:34 PM
This list might be coming in months/years as Forbes is very positive about the Bitcoin (they accept it as a payment method and even have a reporter in SF living exclusively on Bitcoin for last one year)


Title: Re: Is there a Forbes bitcoin millionaire/billionaire list or upcoming?
Post by: 1Referee on May 14, 2014, 03:37:06 PM
It is impossible to be a bitcoin billionaire.  There will never be more than 21 million bitcoins.



Satoshi Nakamoto has 980K BTC at the highest peak the bitcoin price had, his wealth was nearly 1.1 billion $$$$

First ever, and probably the only bitcoin billionaire that we have seen.


Title: Re: Is there a Forbes bitcoin millionaire/billionaire list or upcoming?
Post by: DannyHamilton on May 14, 2014, 03:45:43 PM
It is impossible to be a bitcoin billionaire.  There will never be more than 21 million bitcoins.



Satoshi Nakamoto has 980K BTC at the highest peak the bitcoin price had, his wealth was nearly 1.1 billion $$$$

First ever, and probably the only bitcoin billionaire that we have seen.

That's not a bitcoin billionaire.  That's a USD billionaire.

To be a bitcoin billionaire you'd have to have a billion bitcoins.

Try not to be so U.S. centric in your views of an international currency.


Title: Re: Is there a Forbes bitcoin millionaire/billionaire list or upcoming?
Post by: 1Referee on May 14, 2014, 04:23:21 PM
It is impossible to be a bitcoin billionaire.  There will never be more than 21 million bitcoins.



Satoshi Nakamoto has 980K BTC at the highest peak the bitcoin price had, his wealth was nearly 1.1 billion $$$$

First ever, and probably the only bitcoin billionaire that we have seen.

That's not a bitcoin billionaire.  That's a USD billionaire.

To be a bitcoin billionaire you'd have to have a billion bitcoins.

Try not to be so U.S. centric in your views of an international currency.

Lol you completely missed the point here, ofcourse there is not a bitcoin billionaire as in 1 billion btc mr wiseguy.
And also, next time I will convert everything into Thai Baht  ;D


Title: Re: Is there a Forbes bitcoin millionaire/billionaire list or upcoming?
Post by: hilariousandco on May 14, 2014, 04:24:40 PM
It is impossible to be a bitcoin billionaire.  There will never be more than 21 million bitcoins.



When people refer to bitcoin million/billionaires they're obviously referring to the fiat value they hold in bitcoins. Apart from Satoshi, there's probably going to be zero people who will ever actually own over or near 1 million bitcoins.


Title: Re: Is there a Forbes bitcoin millionaire/billionaire list or upcoming?
Post by: FeedbackLoop on May 14, 2014, 04:40:26 PM
It is impossible to be a bitcoin billionaire.  There will never be more than 21 million bitcoins.



Satoshi Nakamoto has 980K BTC at the highest peak the bitcoin price had, his wealth was nearly 1.1 billion $$$$

First ever, and probably the only bitcoin billionaire that we have seen.

That's not a bitcoin billionaire.  That's a USD billionaire.

To be a bitcoin billionaire you'd have to have a billion bitcoins.

Try not to be so U.S. centric in your views of an international currency.

This.



Title: Re: Is there a Forbes bitcoin millionaire/billionaire list or upcoming?
Post by: DannyHamilton on May 14, 2014, 04:57:14 PM
It is impossible to be a bitcoin billionaire.  There will never be more than 21 million bitcoins.



When people refer to bitcoin million/billionaires they're obviously referring to the fiat value they hold in bitcoins. Apart from Satoshi, there's probably going to be zero people who will ever actually own over or near 1 million bitcoins.

Fiat value in which fiat?  How can I tell if the person asking is from the U.S. or the European Union, or from England, or from Japan, or somewhere else?

Try not to be so U.S. centric in your views of an international currency.


Title: Re: Is there a Forbes bitcoin millionaire/billionaire list or upcoming?
Post by: acs267 on May 14, 2014, 05:04:14 PM
It is impossible to be a bitcoin billionaire.  There will never be more than 21 million bitcoins.



When people refer to bitcoin million/billionaires they're obviously referring to the fiat value they hold in bitcoins. Apart from Satoshi, there's probably going to be zero people who will ever actually own over or near 1 million bitcoins.

Fiat value in which fiat?  How can I tell if the person asking is from the U.S. or the European Union, or from England, or from Japan, or somewhere else?

Try not to be so U.S. centric in your views of an international currency.

I have to agree there. Most people assume it's USD when somebody talks about billions, or when they use the dollar sign. However, they could be heavily talking about others.


Title: Re: Is there a Forbes bitcoin millionaire/billionaire list or upcoming?
Post by: DannyHamilton on May 14, 2014, 06:17:04 PM
It is impossible to be a bitcoin billionaire.  There will never be more than 21 million bitcoins.



When people refer to bitcoin million/billionaires they're obviously referring to the fiat value they hold in bitcoins. Apart from Satoshi, there's probably going to be zero people who will ever actually own over or near 1 million bitcoins.

Fiat value in which fiat?  How can I tell if the person asking is from the U.S. or the European Union, or from England, or from Japan, or somewhere else?

Try not to be so U.S. centric in your views of an international currency.

I have to agree there. Most people assume it's USD when somebody talks about billions, or when they use the dollar sign. However, they could be heavily talking about others.

If the OP had used the dollar sign, or used the acronym USD, then we could assume that we are talking about a billion U.S. dollars worth of bitcoins.

What they asked about was bitcoin billionaires.  If I asked about a Euro billionaire, or a GBP billionaire, would you assume I was talking about a billion USD worth of euro or GBP?


Title: Re: Is there a Forbes bitcoin millionaire/billionaire list or upcoming?
Post by: ShakyhandsBTCer on June 14, 2014, 07:41:03 PM
This list might be coming in months/years as Forbes is very positive about the Bitcoin (they accept it as a payment method and even have a reporter in SF living exclusively on Bitcoin for last one year)

They will likely report it when one person is a billionaire due to their investment in bitcoin even if they would not otherwise make the list of being one of the word's most rich people.

There are simply too many millionaires to make it worth reporting when someone makes a million dollars.


Title: Re: Is there a Forbes bitcoin millionaire/billionaire list or upcoming?
Post by: Catmoonglow on June 14, 2014, 07:47:30 PM
They have some contradictions about btc in Forbes http://imgur.com/KG8sLQH