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Title: US justice department charges Chinese with hacking Post by: hilariousandco on May 19, 2014, 06:04:05 PM http://time.com/104508/u-s-charges-chinese-government-officials-with-cyber-espionage/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-27475324 Quote The US has charged five Chinese army officers with hacking into private-sector American companies in a bid for competitive advantage, in the first cyber-espionage case of its kind. Attorney General Eric Holder said the alleged breaches were "significant" and demanded "an aggressive response". US prosecutors say the officers stole trade secrets and internal documents from five companies and a labour union. China denied the charges and warned the case would harm US-China relations. You what? They actually taking the piss with this? I literally don't understand the gall of the USG ::). Title: Re: US justice department charges Chinese with hacking Post by: sana8410 on May 19, 2014, 06:21:53 PM Its about time we did something about this. The Chinese have been stealing American intellectual property for many years. It seems to be in their blood. Just go to Chinatown in NYC and get the latest movie releases.
Title: Re: US justice department charges Chinese with hacking Post by: practicaldreamer on May 19, 2014, 06:52:09 PM Just go to Chinatown in NYC and get the latest movie releases. I get all my stuff from the Piratebay ;) ;D Title: Re: US justice department charges Chinese with hacking Post by: hilariousandco on May 20, 2014, 06:13:44 AM Its about time we did something about this. The Chinese have been stealing American intellectual property for many years. It seems to be in their blood. Just go to Chinatown in NYC and get the latest movie releases. Are you bring serious? I suppose it's ok to spy on the world as long as you're not stealing their copyrights and intellectual property? Title: Re: US justice department charges Chinese with hacking Post by: sana8410 on May 20, 2014, 02:15:30 PM Its about time we did something about this. The Chinese have been stealing American intellectual property for many years. It seems to be in their blood. Just go to Chinatown in NYC and get the latest movie releases. Are you bring serious? I suppose it's ok to spy on the world as long as you're not stealing their copyrights and intellectual property? Title: Re: US justice department charges Chinese with hacking Post by: commandrix on May 20, 2014, 02:50:31 PM So China's mad because we caught them stealing our trade secrets. And very likely we won't do much more than slap the wrists of those Chinese officers. Everybody, if you're going to get mad about this, quit buying products that are made in China.
Title: Re: US justice department charges Chinese with hacking Post by: hilariousandco on May 20, 2014, 02:54:47 PM So China's mad because we caught them stealing our trade secrets. And very likely we won't do much more than slap the wrists of those Chinese officers. Everybody, if you're going to get mad about this, quit buying products that are made in China. The point is the laughable hypocrisy and double-standards of America. And they won't do shit to the Chinese especially since they wouldn't ever hand them over. All this does is weaken relations between China and the US whilst the rest of the world is just laughing at America for pulling this stunt. Title: Re: US justice department charges Chinese with hacking Post by: validium on May 21, 2014, 07:15:36 AM Will they actually be able to extradite them? Don't think so!
Title: Re: US justice department charges Chinese with hacking Post by: peeveepee on May 21, 2014, 10:36:57 AM So China's mad because we caught them stealing our trade secrets. And very likely we won't do much more than slap the wrists of those Chinese officers. Everybody, if you're going to get mad about this, quit buying products that are made in China. The point is the laughable hypocrisy and double-standards of America. And they won't do shit to the Chinese especially since they wouldn't ever hand them over. All this does is weaken relations between China and the US whilst the rest of the world is just laughing at America for pulling this stunt. Have to agree here. Considering what US have done to other countries. This spying incident from China isn't even on the same scale. Title: Re: US justice department charges Chinese with hacking Post by: Kluge on May 21, 2014, 10:42:40 AM Jinping could achieve immortality by spitting on Obama at their next meeting.
Title: Re: US justice department charges Chinese with hacking Post by: Hiraga on May 21, 2014, 11:22:53 AM They just like to move some attention on this to China to let their own spyprograms look less bad.
Personally I think the NSA is a horrortale. Title: Re: US justice department charges Chinese with hacking Post by: trader001 on May 21, 2014, 11:49:34 AM Double standard from the US.
How stupid do they think international community can be? Title: Re: US justice department charges Chinese with hacking Post by: Hazir on May 21, 2014, 11:59:57 AM Yes, China is horrible. They don't care about any international copyright law. They copy everything they can and use it like they invented it. They probably stole everything they are accused for and much more. And what we can do about it? Nothing.
Title: Re: US justice department charges Chinese with hacking Post by: hilariousandco on May 21, 2014, 12:08:12 PM Yes, China is horrible. They don't care about any international copyright law. They copy everything they can and use it like they invented it. They probably stole everything they are accused for and much more. And what we can do about it? Nothing. What can we do about America spying on us all? Nothing. America probably only knows about the spying because they were spying on the Chinese. Title: Re: US justice department charges Chinese with hacking Post by: jcoin200 on May 21, 2014, 12:45:52 PM Wow, Edward snowden said the US was doing this same exact thing to companies like Siemens (a German company), but he was waiting for Greenwald to release the documents after thorough journalistic review
Title: Re: US justice department charges Chinese with hacking Post by: Hiraga on May 21, 2014, 01:34:21 PM Yes, China is horrible. They don't care about any international copyright law. They copy everything they can and use it like they invented it. They probably stole everything they are accused for and much more. And what we can do about it? Nothing. What can we do about America spying on us all? Nothing. America probably only knows about the spying because they were spying on the Chinese. You could live on an island without electronics and not be spied on. I think any smartphone has a backdoor so NSA can listen in if it's lying on the table. It's rediculous. But the same is valid for any computer with a microphone/webcam. Title: Re: US justice department charges Chinese with hacking Post by: noviapriani on May 22, 2014, 10:36:13 AM The U.S. government is a great example of noise without substance. First they place sanctions on Putin's friends, but not Putin himself. Now they indict people who will never suffer a moment's distress. Why not indict the head of the Commuity party in China? Why indict the soldiers and not Xi Jinping? Or maybe this is what Obama referred to as being "more flexible" after the election. You know: appear to be doing something when actually he's doing nothing.
Title: Re: US justice department charges Chinese with hacking Post by: fdiini on May 22, 2014, 12:11:31 PM You could live on an island without electronics and not be spied on. I think any smartphone has a backdoor so NSA can listen in if it's lying on the table. It's rediculous. But the same is valid for any computer with a microphone/webcam. US has satellite imagery system and can probably see what you do everyday from the sky if you are important enough. Title: Re: US justice department charges Chinese with hacking Post by: bitsmichel on May 22, 2014, 06:24:57 PM Quote The US has charged five Chinese army officers with hacking into private-sector American companies in a bid for competitive advantage, in the first cyber-espionage case of its kind. Attorney General Eric Holder said the alleged breaches were "significant" and demanded "an aggressive response". US prosecutors say the officers stole trade secrets and internal documents from five companies and a labour union. China denied the charges and warned the case would harm US-China relations. Insert something about the pottle and the kettle Title: Re: US justice department charges Chinese with hacking Post by: Benjig on May 22, 2014, 06:47:11 PM You could live on an island without electronics and not be spied on. I think any smartphone has a backdoor so NSA can listen in if it's lying on the table. It's rediculous. But the same is valid for any computer with a microphone/webcam. US has satellite imagery system and can probably see what you do everyday from the sky if you are important enough. Yes it looks like google earth but in real time, the only that can save you is a cloudy day or in the night!, hehe http://www.n2yo.com/ Title: Re: US justice department charges Chinese with hacking Post by: unpure on May 22, 2014, 10:08:16 PM You could live on an island without electronics and not be spied on. I think any smartphone has a backdoor so NSA can listen in if it's lying on the table. It's rediculous. But the same is valid for any computer with a microphone/webcam. US has satellite imagery system and can probably see what you do everyday from the sky if you are important enough. Yes it looks like google earth but in real time, the only that can save you is a cloudy day or in the night!, hehe http://www.n2yo.com/ Do they save all the image? Title: Re: US justice department charges Chinese with hacking Post by: bitsmichel on May 22, 2014, 10:58:51 PM Quote Quote from: Hiraga on May 21, 2014, 01:34:21 PM It is google earth with extra information.You could live on an island without electronics and not be spied on. I think any smartphone has a backdoor so NSA can listen in if it's lying on the table. It's rediculous. But the same is valid for any computer with a microphone/webcam. US has satellite imagery system and can probably see what you do everyday from the sky if you are important enough. Yes it looks like google earth but in real time, the only that can save you is a cloudy day or in the night!, hehe http://www.n2yo.com/ Quote Do they save all the image? We save everything we can :)Title: Re: US justice department charges Chinese with hacking Post by: beetcoin on May 22, 2014, 11:03:35 PM at this point, i am confused and have no idea who the good or bad guy is. maybe there is no good guy, just the guy looking out for his own interests. how can we point the finger at china when we've been monitoring people from all other countries? that'll only add fuel to the fire. china would respond "well, you guys do it too." and it would be a legitimate rebuttal.
Title: Re: US justice department charges Chinese with hacking Post by: bitsmichel on May 22, 2014, 11:11:24 PM Quote at this point, i am confused and have no idea who the good or bad guy is. maybe there is no good guy, just the guy looking out for his own interests. how can we point the finger at china when we've been monitoring people from all other countries? that'll only add fuel to the fire. china would respond "well, you guys do it too." and it would be a legitimate rebuttal. yes, this is indeed the case. In fact, the US helped China (and others) with mass surveillance systems. Good/bad guy is only in the movies, in real life there is financial interest and interest of resources. Title: Re: US justice department charges Chinese with hacking Post by: beetcoin on May 22, 2014, 11:18:21 PM Quote at this point, i am confused and have no idea who the good or bad guy is. maybe there is no good guy, just the guy looking out for his own interests. how can we point the finger at china when we've been monitoring people from all other countries? that'll only add fuel to the fire. china would respond "well, you guys do it too." and it would be a legitimate rebuttal. yes, this is indeed the case. In fact, the US helped China (and others) with mass surveillance systems. Good/bad guy is only in the movies, in real life there is financial interest and interest of resources. well, even though i'm american, it seems that they just use the media as an apparatus to convince people that we are the good guys, and they are the baddies.. even though we do the same shit as they do. it's okay that we do bad shit, because you know.. nationalism. |