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Title: satoshi=david chaum?
Post by: arepo on January 31, 2012, 07:18:12 AM
reading about digicash and its failure, david chaum was always described as 'paranoid'. could he perhaps have decided that straight-up anonymity was the only solution to actually succeed a second time around?


Title: Re: satoshi=david chaum?
Post by: dooglus on January 31, 2012, 07:32:46 AM
Did you see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49751.0 ?

I didn't, until now.  I wonder if that's where the "The Good Wife" writers got the idea for the plot of their Bitcoin episode.


Title: Re: satoshi=david chaum?
Post by: Mjbmonetarymetals on November 30, 2012, 09:29:41 PM
Old thread !!!!!!!!!

Was this guy ever ruled out as satoshi ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Chaum

http://www.chaum.com/articles/list_of_articles.htm

http://sciencelinks.jp/j-east/article/200405/000020040504A0098961.php

http://cryptome.org/jya/digicrash.htm

http://www.chaum.com/articles/Security_Wthout_Identification.htm

http://www.researchgate.net/publication/2389681_The_Power_of_RSA_Inversion_Oracles_and_the_Security_of_Chaum's_RSA-Based_Blind_Signature_Scheme

quote from - http://cryptome.org/jya/digicrash.htm

Chaum had also worked for intelligence agencies, and that didn't fortify his faith in the good intentions of humankind. His vision of the privacy of the individual was almost an obsession.  In 1996 he said, in the relations magazine of Honeywell-Bull: "The difference between a bad electronic cash system and well-developed digital cash will determine whether we will have a dictatorship or a real democracy."


Title: Re: satoshi=david chaum?
Post by: Mjbmonetarymetals on November 30, 2012, 09:58:41 PM
http://www.cs.brown.edu/~anna/papers/chl05-full.pdf

Published march 27th 2006

http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab22/1973mb1973/0e35bcd522cf9688ad6cdf9c0bcf0e40.jpg


Title: Re: satoshi=david chaum?
Post by: Mjbmonetarymetals on November 30, 2012, 10:28:11 PM
 http://crypto.stanford.edu/~xb/fc12/bitcoin.pdf

Bitter to Better — How to Make Bitcoin a Better Currency
Simon Barber 1, Xavier Boyen 1, Elaine Shi 2⋆, and Ersin Uzun 1 1 Palo Alto Research Center
2 University of California, Berkeley

http://cryptome.org/jya/digicrash.htm
 David Chaum has since been seen around Berkeley, walking with his soul under his arm16.  He was far ahead of his time. Too far.


Title: Re: satoshi=david chaum?
Post by: marcus_of_augustus on December 01, 2012, 12:50:21 AM
no


Title: Re: satoshi=david chaum?
Post by: reeses on December 01, 2012, 02:38:28 AM
Nope.  Easier to see than that.


Title: Re: satoshi=david chaum?
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on December 01, 2012, 03:31:58 AM
The Wikipedia page reference this book, a favorite author of mine: http://www.amazon.com/Presenting-Digital-Cash-Seth-Godin/dp/1575210622

Quote
Amazon.com Review

As a rule, money is exciting to get but mighty dry to read about. Presenting Digital Cash breaks the rule--the second half of it anyway. Seth Godin grabs you with wit, stimulates you with new possibilities, and opens your eyes to trends that could change our relationship with money the way cash changed barter and was itself changed by checks and credit cards. Will digital cash bring greater freedom from theft? A true world economy? An end to counterfeiting or a way for hackers to create financial chaos? Godin examines today's situation and what it may bode for tomorrow.


Title: Re: satoshi=david chaum?
Post by: Mjbmonetarymetals on December 01, 2012, 12:47:55 PM
Nope.  Easier to see than that.
What you mean Phinnaeus is satoshi  ;)


Title: Re: satoshi=david chaum?
Post by: paulie_w on December 01, 2012, 06:09:54 PM
what if satoshi is multiple satoshis?!


Title: Re: satoshi=david chaum?
Post by: Raoul Duke on December 01, 2012, 08:41:26 PM
Nope.  Easier to see than that.
What you mean Phinnaeus is satoshi  ;)

Precisely.  He got a lobotomy and became an over-posting cyberstalker instead of contributing to development to throw everyone off the scent.

That description also fits you very well...


Title: Re: satoshi=david chaum?
Post by: cdnbcguy on December 02, 2012, 10:33:02 PM
That would be an honour and a privilege, but no - DC is a master of blind signatures (which he invented) and used the RSA algorithm for everything (that I know of) (AND invented Tor!) and BTC uses Elliptic Curve and has no blind signatures (and needs them.....)

Not him. I wish....


Title: Re: satoshi=david chaum?
Post by: Nubarius on December 02, 2012, 11:13:16 PM
David Chaum is American, which wouldn't explain Satoshi's use of British spellings. For example, glancing over his last posts in the forums I've found one (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1790.msg28715#msg28715) where he writes "modernised" and another one (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1850.msg22952#msg22952) where he uses "formalised". It'd be very unusual for an American to use these "-ise" spellings that appear in Satoshi's writings. Add to that the fact that he inserted a quote about British bank bailouts from The Times in the genesis block, and it looks like Satoshi is probably British or must have had a closer connection with the UK than with America.


Title: Re: satoshi=david chaum?
Post by: kiba on December 03, 2012, 12:46:56 AM
David Chaum is American, which wouldn't explain Satoshi's use of British spellings. For example, glancing over his last posts in the forums I've found one (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1790.msg28715#msg28715) where he writes "modernised" and another one (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1850.msg22952#msg22952) where he uses "formalised". It'd be very unusual for an American to use these "-ise" spellings that appear in Satoshi's writings. Add to that the fact that he inserted a quote about British bank bailouts from The Times in the genesis block, and it looks like Satoshi is probably British or must have had a closer connection with the UK than with America.

or he's trying to throw us off by making us think he's British! ;)


Title: Re: satoshi=david chaum?
Post by: Carlton Banks on December 03, 2012, 01:19:35 AM
David Chaum is American, which wouldn't explain Satoshi's use of British spellings. For example, glancing over his last posts in the forums I've found one (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1790.msg28715#msg28715) where he writes "modernised" and another one (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1850.msg22952#msg22952) where he uses "formalised". It'd be very unusual for an American to use these "-ise" spellings that appear in Satoshi's writings. Add to that the fact that he inserted a quote about British bank bailouts from The Times in the genesis block, and it looks like Satoshi is probably British or must have had a closer connection with the UK than with America.

Well, The Times is possibly the most well known British newspaper outside of the UK, possibly because it's also one of the longest established titles globally. These things don't prove much, british spelling is not hard to enforce, just change the country setting in your OS. Even if he had exhibited some less superficial knowledge of Britain or use of British spellings or expressions, it's still not much to go on. It'd be fairly hard to guess someone's nationality purely on prose and content alone, try it with a someone else on the forum.


Title: Re: satoshi=david chaum?
Post by: greyhawk on December 03, 2012, 02:03:18 AM
what if satoshi is multiple satoshis?!

What if inside each Satoshi is a smaller Satoshi?  :o


Title: Re: satoshi=david chaum?
Post by: paulie_w on December 03, 2012, 03:07:04 PM
what if satoshi is multiple satoshis?!

What if inside each Satoshi is a smaller Satoshi?  :o

my. god.


Title: Re: satoshi=david chaum?
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on December 04, 2012, 04:09:23 PM
what if satoshi is multiple satoshis?!

What if inside each Satoshi is a smaller Satoshi?  :o

This comes to mind: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuttle_(M*A*S*H)


Title: Re: satoshi=david chaum?
Post by: reeses on December 04, 2012, 05:06:05 PM
David Chaum is American, which wouldn't explain Satoshi's use of British spellings. For example, glancing over his last posts in the forums I've found one (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1790.msg28715#msg28715) where he writes "modernised" and another one (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1850.msg22952#msg22952) where he uses "formalised". It'd be very unusual for an American to use these "-ise" spellings that appear in Satoshi's writings. Add to that the fact that he inserted a quote about British bank bailouts from The Times in the genesis block, and it looks like Satoshi is probably British or must have had a closer connection with the UK than with America.

Close but not quite.


Title: Re: satoshi=david chaum?
Post by: c_k on December 06, 2012, 08:30:49 AM
Sure, Americans have a different spelling of English to most of us but does this guy you claim to be the one actually consistently use American spelling?

If he was as smart as he appears to be, it isn't hard to use British English ...


Title: Re: satoshi=david chaum?
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on July 16, 2013, 03:42:53 AM
http://crypto.stanford.edu/~xb/fc12/bitcoin.pdf

Bitter to Better — How to Make Bitcoin a Better Currency
Simon Barber 1, Xavier Boyen 1, Elaine Shi 2⋆, and Ersin Uzun 1 1 Palo Alto Research Center
2 University of California, Berkeley

http://cryptome.org/jya/digicrash.htm
 David Chaum has since been seen around Berkeley, walking with his soul under his arm16.  He was far ahead of his time. Too far.

Can you guess which person above used the pseudonym Frans Effendi?