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Title: [FUD] Portugal an Spain banned Bitcoin
Post by: helmax on May 22, 2014, 06:36:39 PM
Portugal an Spain banned Bitcoin anyone know that?

i have friend mine try yesterday do trasanction in bank and bank block that say is virtual money schema


Title: Re: Portugal an Spain banned Bitcoin
Post by: byt411 on May 22, 2014, 06:37:49 PM
Portugal an Spain banned Bitcoin anyone know that?

i have friend mine try yesterday do trasanction in bank and bank block that say is virtual money schema

I am in Spain, and I haven't heard of that.


Title: Re: Portugal an Spain banned Bitcoin
Post by: inBitweTrust on May 22, 2014, 06:41:21 PM
Portugal an Spain banned Bitcoin anyone know that?

i have friend mine try yesterday do trasanction in bank and bank block that say is virtual money schema

Isn't it irresponsible to not write the thread title in a form of a question when you merely heard a rumor and there is no official confirmation?

A individual bank preventing a transaction for whatever reason has nothing to do with a countries stance on the legality of bitcoin either.


Title: Re: Portugal an Spain banned Bitcoin
Post by: helmax on May 22, 2014, 06:43:35 PM
wht part you not understand
iam only ask if someone know because i see Belgium will banned 1 july


Title: Re: Portugal an Spain banned Bitcoin
Post by: byt411 on May 22, 2014, 06:49:05 PM
wht part you not understand
iam only ask if someone know because i see Belgium will banned 1 july

We do not understand because your question is phrased incorrectly. If you want to ask if Spain wants to ban bitcoin, you would ask:
"Is Spain planning to ban Bitcoin?"

"Portugal and Spain banned Bitcoin anyone know that?" means that Spain and Portugal has banned bitcoin, and that we all are ignorant fools except you.


Title: Re: Portugal an Spain banned Bitcoin
Post by: ChuckBuck on May 22, 2014, 06:51:29 PM
Fudsters gonna FUD.

First China, then Russia, now Portugal and Spain are banning Bitcoin.

Next stop USA!   :D


Title: Re: Portugal an Spain banned Bitcoin
Post by: byt411 on May 22, 2014, 06:52:55 PM
Fudsters gonna FUD.

First China, then Russia, now Portugal and Spain are banning Bitcoin.

Next stop USA!   :D

I agree. We should leave negative feedback for spreading FUD, the Spanish government is too worried about grabbing as much money as they can, they won't have time to be thinking about Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Portugal an Spain banned Bitcoin
Post by: blatchcorn on May 22, 2014, 06:53:59 PM
These sort of threads are very bullish indicators :)


Title: Re: Portugal an Spain banned Bitcoin
Post by: Specialkey on May 22, 2014, 06:56:12 PM
These sort of threads are very bullish indicators :)

Hahaha. Panik sell  ;)


Title: Re: Portugal an Spain banned Bitcoin
Post by: FattyMcButterpants on May 22, 2014, 06:58:54 PM
wht part you not understand
iam only ask if someone know because i see Belgium will banned 1 july

havent seen anything about Belgium, Spain or Portugal. care to post a link? ;)


Title: Re: Portugal an Spain banned Bitcoin
Post by: byt411 on May 22, 2014, 06:59:56 PM
wht part you not understand
iam only ask if someone know because i see Belgium will banned 1 july

havent seen anything about Belgium, Spain or Portugal. care to post a link? ;)

Belgium is real, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=620789.0.
Spain and Portugal is FUD that this guy is spreading.


Title: Re: Portugal an Spain banned Bitcoin
Post by: rramires on May 22, 2014, 07:01:04 PM
Spain is not the place where broken people are being evicted from their apartments?


Title: Re: Portugal an Spain banned Bitcoin
Post by: blatchcorn on May 22, 2014, 07:01:33 PM
wht part you not understand
iam only ask if someone know because i see Belgium will banned 1 july

havent seen anything about Belgium, Spain or Portugal. care to post a link? ;)

Belgium is real, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=620789.0.
Spain and Portugal is FUD that this guy is spreading.
They are only considering banning bitcoin derivatives in Belgium, not banning bitcoin itself


Title: Re: Portugal an Spain banned Bitcoin
Post by: franky1 on May 22, 2014, 07:06:41 PM
and belgium is only banning derivatives. such as the EFT that winklevosses are doing.

they are not banning individuals from purchasing bitcoins.

i think that some people that read the news. so sit back, soak in the informations along with the caffiene. interpret the words, re-read the actual source document and not the rehashed news report. and then see if their interpretation still corresponds to the source document before even attempting to post it as news here.

its like a stupid school kid race. whoever can spread the gossip first gets to be the popular kid that day..

i prefer actual non-fud info when someone wishes to inform us of something new. and i hate having to peel away all the Fud and misunderstandings that these gossip queens like to push into the forum without even checking the source or giving enough time for their brain to filter properly.


Title: Re: Portugal an Spain banned Bitcoin
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 22, 2014, 07:20:44 PM
wht part you not understand
iam only ask if someone know because i see Belgium will banned 1 july

Through your broken English, this is exactly how I understood your question, bud.

For a very brief period of time, I, too, was somewhat critical of those who didn't relay their message across via the proper use of the English language until, that is, I was slapped in the face with the realization that this is an international board, and trying to vote down the accused would prove futile, if you get my drift.

I'm sure that in Spain, little boys learning English for the first time would have difficulty distinguishing the difference between a Pole and a pole, sans the aid of a mentor helping the poor lad in getting his head wrapped around the ideal.

Quick aside: I only weld stuff pertaining to Belgium on Tuesdays when sex kittens go to college with boys who rally 'round the flag

English is a beautiful language, and tool, especially if one knows how to use it to their advantage. Sadly, I'm a novice, but I have aspirations.


Title: Re: Portugal an Spain banned Bitcoin
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 22, 2014, 07:30:13 PM
These sort of threads are very bullish indicators :)

Hahaha. Panik sell  ;)

I vote that this forum should install an animated JaJa smiley. http://vamosbrigade.com/phpBB3/images/smilies/flamenco2.gif


Title: Re: Portugal an Spain banned Bitcoin
Post by: inBitweTrust on May 22, 2014, 07:31:42 PM
wht part you not understand
iam only ask if someone know because i see Belgium will banned 1 july

I apologize for coming off a bit rude. Everyone is just a bit fed up with MSM FUD.

I would have merely assumed English wasn't your first language with the incorrectly phrased title but your whole basis for even asking such question was based upon a single bank transaction not going through which doesn't necessarily have anything to do with bitcoin's legality and could be either an individuals banks policy, a limit reached, fraud, mistake, ect...

So the question you should have asked was "Has bank xxxx in Spain blocked Bitcoin payments?"


Title: Re: Portugal an Spain banned Bitcoin
Post by: jc01480 on May 22, 2014, 07:37:32 PM
Rumor Alert!

Did the U.N. just ban bitcoin?


Title: Re: Portugal an Spain banned Bitcoin
Post by: shadowphoenix on May 22, 2014, 07:41:31 PM
must admit I was a bit afraid when I first opened this topic ;)


Title: Re: Portugal an Spain banned Bitcoin
Post by: Bit_Happy on May 22, 2014, 07:47:07 PM
Could a mod please make the thread title more accurate? (or the OP)
The current title is way too far from reality.


Title: Re: [FUD] Portugal an Spain banned Bitcoin
Post by: pedrog on May 22, 2014, 08:33:39 PM
Portugal here.

As far as I know this rumor is false, nothing like that from Bank of Portugal, plus bitcoin is quite unknown in Portugal.


Title: Re: [FUD] Portugal an Spain banned Bitcoin
Post by: Meuh6879 on May 22, 2014, 08:41:00 PM
i have friend mine try yesterday do trasanction in bank and bank block that say is virtual money schema

it's normal ... all banks in Europe track SEPA signature to blacklist client (close account).
it's not new because media don't relay this.


Title: Re: [FUD] Portugal an Spain banned Bitcoin
Post by: byt411 on May 22, 2014, 08:43:39 PM
Portugal here.

As far as I know this rumor is false, nothing like that from Bank of Portugal, plus bitcoin is quite unknown in Portugal.

Spain here. As far as the spanish banks are concerned, they are too busy figuring out ways to absorb all our money (such as charging a negative interest), so no announcements either.


Title: Re: [FUD] Portugal an Spain banned Bitcoin
Post by: pedrog on May 23, 2014, 02:59:14 AM
Portugal here.

As far as I know this rumor is false, nothing like that from Bank of Portugal, plus bitcoin is quite unknown in Portugal.

Spain here. As far as the spanish banks are concerned, they are too busy figuring out ways to absorb all our money (such as charging a negative interest), so no announcements either.

So true.


Title: Re: [FUD] Portugal an Spain banned Bitcoin
Post by: byt411 on May 23, 2014, 07:21:44 AM
Portugal here.

As far as I know this rumor is false, nothing like that from Bank of Portugal, plus bitcoin is quite unknown in Portugal.

Spain here. As far as the spanish banks are concerned, they are too busy figuring out ways to absorb all our money (such as charging a negative interest), so no announcements either.

So true.

I think portugal is better off than us right now? Or is that incorrect?


Title: Re: [FUD] Portugal an Spain banned Bitcoin
Post by: NorTiaN on May 23, 2014, 08:26:35 AM
Not true.

"Bank of Portugal said in report on global regulation of Bitcoin

A body of legal support to the U.S. Congress issued a report which compiles all the positions taken by financial institutions around the world . The opinion of the BOP is based on the analysis of the European Central Bank.


The Law Library of Congress , the legal entity that gathers information on specific topics for the U.S. Congress , gave an overview of the various position statements made ​​by banks around the world relating to Bitcoin . The Bank of Portugal is referred to in the study as a relay the position taken by the European Central Bank.

 In the BoP statement concerning means of payment , it is said that " Bitcoin can not be considered safe currency, since there is no certainty of its acceptance as a means of payment " and that the lack of regulation means that users are payable " all risk , since there is not a fund for the protection of depositors / investors."

 " For most , their creation is decentralized , there is no one 'master system ' is difficult to define the jurisdiction under which procedures and rules applicable to the model should be established ," explains the bop in a statement the end of 2013 , concluding that " neither the ECB nor the Bank of Portugal issued supervise the activity or use of Bitcoin " .

 Portugal is referred to in the compilation which contains the making of over 40 nations on the subject of Bitcoin position. The report concluded that only China and Brazil have specific laws or regulations for the virtual currency .

 In the case of Brazilian emphasis is placed on the creation of a law that provides for the standardization of mobile payment systems and the creation of electronic currencies , which includes the Bitcoins . The Central Bank of Brazil and the National Monetary Council are responsible for monitoring their use .

 In the " neighbor " Spain, for example , the virtual currency is not considered cool, but is recognized as a " digital asset " under the definition of the Spanish Civil Code .

 The full report of the Law Library of Congress can be found in its entirety here ."

in http://tek.sapo.pt/noticias/internet/banco_de_portugal_referido_em_relatorio_mundi_1363983.html


Title: Re: [FUD] Portugal an Spain banned Bitcoin
Post by: helmax on May 23, 2014, 09:40:13 AM
 ??? ??? ???
already see i can not ask nothing
bahh


Title: Re: [FUD] Portugal an Spain banned Bitcoin
Post by: Elwar on May 23, 2014, 10:31:26 AM
Do the banks have soldiers or police with guns that prevent you from freedoms like governments?

Banks are private organizations. They can no more ban Bitcoin than McDonalds can ban hamburgers.

Sure they may make it so that you cannot use their service for such activities but any private organization can do so. The solution is to not use their business.


Title: Re: [FUD] Portugal an Spain banned Bitcoin
Post by: ChuckBuck on May 23, 2014, 11:40:20 AM
??? ??? ???
already see i can not ask nothing
bahh

You can ask in questions you aren't sure of, just phrase your thread subjects differently.

For example:

"Rumor: Did Portugal and Spain try to ban Bitcoin?"

  or

"My friend told me Portugal and Spain banned Bitcoin, is this true?"


If you phrase your thread topic as a question, it doesn't sound so much like FUD.


Title: Re: [FUD] Portugal an Spain banned Bitcoin
Post by: Bibop on May 23, 2014, 12:20:29 PM
So I get that its only a false alarm.
sounds problematic at the beginning


Title: Re: [FUD] Portugal an Spain banned Bitcoin
Post by: bryant.coleman on May 23, 2014, 01:16:12 PM
According to Bitlegal, there is no ban on the possession or trade of Bitcoins in Spain or Portugal. The European Central Bank (ECB) has also taken no restrictive steps on Bitcoin.