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Title: Sending coins for neighborhoods to be more silent
Post by: remotemass on May 23, 2014, 01:08:13 AM
Sometimes you have neighborhoods that do unwanted noises. Could be musical instrument they are trying to learn, DIY constructions or pure noise. Maybe they could have address for tips for less noise.

How does it sound? Similar ideas?


Title: Re: Sending coins for neighborhoods to be more silent
Post by: franky1 on May 23, 2014, 03:10:21 AM
Sometimes you have neighborhoods that do unwanted noises. Could be musical instrument they are trying to learn, DIY constructions or pure noise. Maybe they could have address for tips for less noise.

How does it sound? Similar ideas?

hmmm how to envision such an implementation.

apartment complex.
peoples rental contract deposits are put into bitcoin as an investment. (wallet A) wallet A has an address per tenant.
1% of peoples rent is also put into bitcoin. (wallet B) wallet B has an address per tenant.

then the apartment manager/supervisor/landlord (whomever normally deals with tenant complaints) can take small proportions out of abusive tenants deposits(wallet A) to keep himself to cover costs of dealing with the abusive tenant

and empty the contents of wallet B address for the tenants that are causing abuse. and split it into wallet B addresses of quiet tenants.

now wallet B is already growing due to rent. and every 3 months the tenants get the contents of their addresses. meaning abusive tenants get nothing, and civilised tenants get a 'cashback' for not causing the guy in charge any hassle plus a split of the abusive tenants 1% as a sorry for any disturbance bonus.

an addition to this brain fart is the neighbours closest to the abuse gets the split, rather then everyone in the apartment complex. thus making those directly involved feel more compensated.


Title: Re: Sending coins for neighborhoods to be more silent
Post by: ijmolder93 on May 23, 2014, 03:35:08 AM
How does it sound?

Is that a pun?

 
I think you should move if you don't like the noise.

Seconded. Or maybe you should just gain a hobby that doesn't have you sit there listening to all these "noises"


Title: Re: Sending coins for neighborhoods to be more silent
Post by: Pushtheghost on May 23, 2014, 03:38:29 AM
Molded earplugs work for anything like that.

I watched a youtube video once,tried to find it for you where this guys neighbors would play mariachi music all day and all night. Felt sorry for the guy,was brutal to watch.


Title: Re: Sending coins for neighborhoods to be more silent
Post by: Pushtheghost on May 23, 2014, 03:46:26 AM
Just remembered another tip would be to grab a "Pink noise generator"!
It combines low and high frequency and helps you sleep.

Worked in a camp for a well and had to find ways to figure out how to get shut eye when some people would be wanting to strum the guitar and drink all night or snore loud enough to shake the walls.


Title: Re: Sending coins for neighborhoods to be more silent
Post by: LostDutchman on May 23, 2014, 04:59:06 AM
Sometimes you have neighborhoods that do unwanted noises. Could be musical instrument they are trying to learn, DIY constructions or pure noise. Maybe they could have address for tips for less noise.

How does it sound? Similar ideas?

Get a job.

If you have a job, get a second job.

You have way too much time on your hands.


Title: Re: Sending coins for neighborhoods to be more silent
Post by: bbit on May 23, 2014, 05:05:25 AM
Sometimes you have neighborhoods that do unwanted noises. Could be musical instrument they are trying to learn, DIY constructions or pure noise. Maybe they could have address for tips for less noise.

How does it sound? Similar ideas?

so when I'm farting to loud you'll buy me off ?


Title: Re: Sending coins for neighborhoods to be more silent
Post by: Elwar on May 23, 2014, 10:40:39 AM
If you are not a cranky old man right now, you will be great at it when you reach that age.


Title: Re: Sending coins for neighborhoods to be more silent
Post by: Kluge on May 23, 2014, 10:43:12 AM
Buy more land, preferably a perfect square lot. Plant plenty of trees. House should be in the middle of the plot. Ideally, the house would sit on a kind of "elevated crater," though I'm sure those partially-underground houses (earth houses, I think they call them) do well to keep the noise out. The more and larger the barriers between you and your neighbors, the better. Maybe if there's a really awesome neighbor, you can create a two-way underground friendship tube which you close off when they move.


Title: Re: Sending coins for neighborhoods to be more silent
Post by: johnatan32 on May 23, 2014, 10:47:44 AM
There are several solutions:
One. It close all the windows.
Two. Replace the windows with double glazed windows.
Three. It just learn to live with the noise


Title: Re: Sending coins for neighborhoods to be more silent
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on May 23, 2014, 12:38:01 PM
never heard of such an idea but it sounds interesting.


Title: Re: Sending coins for neighborhoods to be more silent
Post by: BCwinning on May 23, 2014, 12:42:50 PM
you guys are rough. Obviously you all have been blessed to live next to quiet people.



Title: Re: Sending coins for neighborhoods to be more silent
Post by: minerpart on May 23, 2014, 12:44:13 PM
Turn the stereo up for a week then make some money when you turn it off.


Title: Re: Sending coins for neighborhoods to be more silent
Post by: giszmo on May 23, 2014, 03:34:18 PM
Guys if you don't want to discuss the ops idea why comment at all?

I hate noise pollution and guess I understand his point too well although playing instruments falls not into that category for me. What annoys me are cars that trigger the alarms of 5 cars around my house. Cars made for the sole purpose of making that sound. Also annoying are car alarms running for 8h straight. Here in Chile the police wouldn't do anything about neither of those.

So how about a localized market for stopping noises? People could offer to stop noises for donations by various means and others could donate.

Sure, depending on the grade of anonymity of both parties the offers would also partially be of criminal nature. Another problem would be people taking their neighbors money to stop being noisy which they were just to earn money in the first place. So maybe people would start making pledges to donate to Greenpeace if that car looses its capacity to make noise to make sure they don't fall into this category. 


Title: Re: Sending coins for neighborhoods to be more silent
Post by: BSIG on May 23, 2014, 06:28:46 PM

Gone are the days when you walk up to your neighbor and let them know what's on your mind.



Title: Re: Sending coins for neighborhoods to be more silent
Post by: ShakyhandsBTCer on June 14, 2014, 06:25:07 PM
Sometimes you have neighborhoods that do unwanted noises. Could be musical instrument they are trying to learn, DIY constructions or pure noise. Maybe they could have address for tips for less noise.

How does it sound? Similar ideas?

It sounds like you are essentially paying them to not exercise their right to free speech.

If people are making a lot of noise at late hours of the night you should simply ask them to quiet down and they most likely will make less noise.

I do like the idea of giving people an incentive to meet certain standards via bitcoin, just not when "speech" is involved.


Title: Re: Sending coins for neighborhoods to be more silent
Post by: LostDutchman on June 15, 2014, 12:37:18 AM
If you are not a cranky old man right now, you will be great at it when you reach that age.

+100

;)


Title: Re: Sending coins for neighborhoods to be more silent
Post by: LostDutchman on June 15, 2014, 12:37:54 AM

Gone are the days when you walk up to your neighbor and let them know what's on your mind.



Well, yeah, you can get shot doing that shit these days!

LOL!


Title: Re: Sending coins for neighborhoods to be more silent
Post by: mysidia on June 15, 2014, 01:02:09 AM
I think you should move if you don't like the noise.

Or talk to the neighbor about it. And if they refuse... start recording it, and initiate a legal action to request injunctions against their noisy activity, sue for damages or to seek a noise abatement order against the neighbor.

In most states, the neighbor could be liable from $50 to $100 a day. Much more, if it causes medical/psychological issues, or if it affects the value of your property or interferes with  your ability to rent or sell..

You'll need to be able to prove  using recordings, police reports, and your witness testimony that
* The noise is excessive and disturbing, and
* The neighbor is creating the noise (or e.g. is the landlord and therefore, responsible), and,
* Your enjoyment of your space is affected, and
* You verifiably asked the neighbor to stop the noise on multiple occasions, and they had refused or continued to make the noise.



Title: Re: Sending coins for neighborhoods to be more silent
Post by: ShakyhandsBTCer on June 15, 2014, 04:10:01 AM
I think you should move if you don't like the noise.

Or talk to the neighbor about it. And if they refuse... start recording it, and initiate a legal action to request injunctions against their noisy activity, sue for damages or to seek a noise abatement order against the neighbor.

In most states, the neighbor could be liable from $50 to $100 a day. Much more, if it causes medical/psychological issues, or if it affects the value of your property or interferes with  your ability to rent or sell..

You'll need to be able to prove  using recordings, police reports, and your witness testimony that
* The noise is excessive and disturbing, and
* The neighbor is creating the noise (or e.g. is the landlord and therefore, responsible), and,
* Your enjoyment of your space is affected, and
* You verifiably asked the neighbor to stop the noise on multiple occasions, and they had refused or continued to make the noise.



I think the neighbor has free speech rights in this situation.

If you simply ask them politely to quiet down a little bit then they will probably quiet down.


Title: Re: Sending coins for neighborhoods to be more silent
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on June 15, 2014, 04:20:57 AM
Sometimes you have neighborhoods that do unwanted noises. Could be musical instrument they are trying to learn, DIY constructions or pure noise. Maybe they could have address for tips for less noise.

How does it sound? Similar ideas?

How would that work please be quiet I'll tip you 5 dollars
Then the next day they will do it again to earn 5 bucks

Seems to be a bit off for me, might want to try installing sound proof buffers in your house or a quiet room
Anyways its summer its noisy since there is only 3 to 4 months before cooping up in the house again for Winter lol.

That said I like Franky's noise premium fee, but it should be refundable every month if no issues arise.


Title: Re: Sending coins for neighborhoods to be more silent
Post by: ShakyhandsBTCer on June 15, 2014, 08:30:48 PM
Sometimes you have neighborhoods that do unwanted noises. Could be musical instrument they are trying to learn, DIY constructions or pure noise. Maybe they could have address for tips for less noise.

How does it sound? Similar ideas?

How would that work please be quiet I'll tip you 5 dollars
Then the next day they will do it again to earn 5 bucks

Seems to be a bit off for me, might want to try installing sound proof buffers in your house or a quiet room
Anyways its summer its noisy since there is only 3 to 4 months before cooping up in the house again for Winter lol.

That said I like Franky's noise premium fee, but it should be refundable every month if no issues arise.

I think this would set a very bad free speech precident


Title: Re: Sending coins for neighborhoods to be more silent
Post by: Bit_Happy on June 15, 2014, 08:36:44 PM
I have lived in a duplex, but have been fortunate to never live in a large apartment building.
Sending coins for neighborhoods to be more silent?
At first they might feel threatened by the idea, depending on which media stories they have seen/heard about Bitcoin. Certainly, they will get the message that their noise is too loud.


Title: Re: Sending coins for neighborhoods to be more silent
Post by: LostDutchman on June 15, 2014, 11:46:03 PM
Paedon me, but just what is sending BTC and to whom going to do to help silence neighbourhoods?

Jesus.

Whiner.


Title: Re: Sending coins for neighborhoods to be more silent
Post by: commandrix on June 16, 2014, 12:00:02 AM
Maybe use the BTC to grease the palm of the cops to hang around the neighborhood at times when those people who drive around with their stereos blasting are at their worst? And then those of us who know to follow noise ordinance codes can get a percentage of fines collected.


Title: Re: Sending coins for neighborhoods to be more silent
Post by: LostDutchman on June 16, 2014, 12:01:15 AM
Maybe use the BTC to grease the palm of the cops to hang around the neighborhood at times when those people who drive around with their stereos blasting are at their worst?

So, you are suggesting the Bitcoin be used for illegal activity?

Jesus.

How about you buy a pair of earplugs?


Title: Re: Sending coins for neighborhoods to be more silent
Post by: commandrix on June 16, 2014, 12:04:30 AM
Maybe use the BTC to grease the palm of the cops to hang around the neighborhood at times when those people who drive around with their stereos blasting are at their worst?

So, you are suggesting the Bitcoin be used for illegal activity?

Jesus.

How about you buy a pair of earplugs?

I was being facetious, but I can tell you from experience that earplugs don't always help and are annoying. Sometimes slapping people with fines for breaking noise codes is the only way to get them to notice.


Title: Re: Sending coins for neighborhoods to be more silent
Post by: LostDutchman on June 16, 2014, 12:57:50 AM
Maybe use the BTC to grease the palm of the cops to hang around the neighborhood at times when those people who drive around with their stereos blasting are at their worst?

So, you are suggesting the Bitcoin be used for illegal activity?

Jesus.

How about you buy a pair of earplugs?

I was being facetious, but I can tell you from experience that earplugs don't always help and are annoying. Sometimes slapping people with fines for breaking noise codes is the only way to get them to notice.

Then just call the cops and leave Bitcoin out of it.

Jesus.


Title: Re: Sending coins for neighborhoods to be more silent
Post by: TopherB on June 16, 2014, 02:03:19 AM
Sometimes you have neighborhoods that do unwanted noises. Could be musical instrument they are trying to learn, DIY constructions or pure noise. Maybe they could have address for tips for less noise.

How does it sound? Similar ideas?

It sounds like you are essentially paying them to not exercise their right to free speech.

If people are making a lot of noise at late hours of the night you should simply ask them to quiet down and they most likely will make less noise.

I do like the idea of giving people an incentive to meet certain standards via bitcoin, just not when "speech" is involved.
People seem to get confused when it comes to 'the right to free speech.' That right is the right not to have the government makes laws restricting your speech. As a private citizen I can try to stifle your speech all I want.

Not that I endorse the OPs very abusable idea.


Title: Re: Sending coins for neighborhoods to be more silent
Post by: commandrix on June 16, 2014, 02:08:54 AM
Sometimes you have neighborhoods that do unwanted noises. Could be musical instrument they are trying to learn, DIY constructions or pure noise. Maybe they could have address for tips for less noise.

How does it sound? Similar ideas?

It sounds like you are essentially paying them to not exercise their right to free speech.

If people are making a lot of noise at late hours of the night you should simply ask them to quiet down and they most likely will make less noise.

I do like the idea of giving people an incentive to meet certain standards via bitcoin, just not when "speech" is involved.
People seem to get confused when it comes to 'the right to free speech.' That right is the right not to have the government makes laws restricting your speech. As a private citizen I can try to stifle your speech all I want.

Short of being arrested for assault, I assume. But I like to put this in slightly different terms. The right to free speech doesn't give you the right to yell "Fire!" in a crowded theater unless there really is a fire. It also doesn't give you the right to go out of your way to be offensive. Stick a rubber penis on your forehead and call it art if you want, but that doesn't mean you won't be arrested for public indecency. And then there's the whole Westboro Baptist Church thing. These guys don't even seem to realize that somebody's going to start a brawl with them eventually.


Title: Re: Sending coins for neighborhoods to be more silent
Post by: Bit_Happy on June 16, 2014, 02:18:50 AM
Maybe use the BTC to grease the palm of the cops to hang around the neighborhood at times when those people who drive around with their stereos blasting are at their worst?

So, you are suggesting the Bitcoin be used for illegal activity?

Jesus.

How about you buy a pair of earplugs?

I was being facetious, but I can tell you from experience that earplugs don't always help and are annoying. Sometimes slapping people with fines for breaking noise codes is the only way to get them to notice.

Then just call the cops and leave Bitcoin out of it.

Jesus.

Calling the cops can be very dangerous these days, since too often they show up ready to (literally) shoot just about anyone.
"May you live in a town with nice police" ...


Title: Re: Sending coins for neighborhoods to be more silent
Post by: beetcoin on June 16, 2014, 02:30:23 AM
wait, what's the point of this thread? are you saying if you have annoying neighbors, you can get them to stop being annoying by giving them bitcoins? i don't understand the original point of the thread..


Title: Re: Sending coins for neighborhoods to be more silent
Post by: ShakyhandsBTCer on June 16, 2014, 02:59:43 AM
wait, what's the point of this thread? are you saying if you have annoying neighbors, you can get them to stop being annoying by giving them bitcoins? i don't understand the original point of the thread..

The OP was trying to show a use of micropayments being given to neighbors via bitcoin in exchange for being quiet