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Post by: myself on February 02, 2012, 08:29:00 PM
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Title: Re: leverage rally is done at 6.15-6.2
Post by: N12 on February 02, 2012, 08:33:48 PM
Bitcoinica long squeeze will come, but from higher.


Title: Re: leverage rally is done at 6.15-6.2
Post by: ineededausername on February 02, 2012, 08:36:46 PM
Oh look, asterisk.  Time to short :)


Title: Re: leverage rally is done at 6.15-6.2
Post by: teflone on February 02, 2012, 10:10:46 PM
Oh look, asterisk.  Time to short :)


BINGO!!!!

Btw, Im holding pocket aces... just so you can rape me on this next hand..


Title: Re: leverage rally is done at 6.15-6.2
Post by: arepo on February 02, 2012, 10:19:13 PM
you guys have been talking about the starfish for ages. i don't even use bitcoinica and it's starting to get really annoying. if the indicator were indeed that clear-cut then the market would have corrected for it already -- you constantly talk about it on the forums.


Title: Re: leverage rally is done at 6.15-6.2
Post by: Cluster2k on February 02, 2012, 10:34:44 PM
you guys have been talking about the starfish for ages. i don't even use bitcoinica and it's starting to get really annoying. if the indicator were indeed that clear-cut then the market would have corrected for it already -- you constantly talk about it on the forums.

Indeed.  I often see a star next to the buy and sell prices. Sometimes only on the buy price.  Yet, none of this seems to have an affect on bitcoin's price.  It's not moving at the moment, and hasn't done so for the last 24 hours.  Bitcoinica only seems to have a large impact on bitcoin when people are forced to liquidate.  Then the fun starts.  Otherwise it's a non issue.


Title: Re: leverage rally is done at 6.15-6.2
Post by: teflone on February 03, 2012, 12:18:06 AM
you guys have been talking about the starfish for ages. i don't even use bitcoinica and it's starting to get really annoying. if the indicator were indeed that clear-cut then the market would have corrected for it already -- you constantly talk about it on the forums.

Indeed.  I often see a star next to the buy and sell prices. Sometimes only on the buy price.  Yet, none of this seems to have an affect on bitcoin's price.  It's not moving at the moment, and hasn't done so for the last 24 hours.  Bitcoinica only seems to have a large impact on bitcoin when people are forced to liquidate.  Then the fun starts.  Otherwise it's a non issue.

Your naivety is cute...


Title: Re: leverage rally is done at 6.15-6.2
Post by: proudhon on February 03, 2012, 12:51:23 AM
The starfish is the most trustworthy trading indicator in the bitcoin market.


Title: Re: leverage rally is done at 6.15-6.2
Post by: teflone on February 03, 2012, 12:55:00 AM
The starfish is the most trustworthy trading indicator in the bitcoin market.

Yup, it has to go..
 if you cant fully leverage everyone 10 to 1, DONT OFFER ANY LEVERAGE MORE THAN THAT!!!


Im fucking sick of this Bitcoinica, its ruining the market


Title: Re: leverage rally is done at 6.15-6.2
Post by: NamelessOne on February 03, 2012, 12:57:37 AM
The starfish is the most trustworthy trading indicator in the bitcoin market.

Yup, it has to go..
 if you cant fully leverage everyone 10 to 1, DONT OFFER ANY LEVERAGE MORE THAN THAT!!!


Im fucking sick of this Bitcoinica, its ruining the market

Yes, Bitcoinica is a blight on this market.


Title: Re: leverage rally is done at 6.15-6.2
Post by: proudhon on February 03, 2012, 01:00:55 AM
The starfish is the most trustworthy trading indicator in the bitcoin market.

Yup, it has to go..
 if you cant fully leverage everyone 10 to 1, DONT OFFER ANY LEVERAGE MORE THAN THAT!!!


Im fucking sick of this Bitcoinica, its ruining the market

Yes, Bitcoinica is a blight on this market.

I agree.  But I've given in.  Bitcoinica isn't going anywhere, so fuck it.  The bitcoinica starfish has given me more profit than anything else.  Maybe if more people trade on it it'll dampen it's effect.  I don't know.  Whatever. 


Title: Re: leverage rally is done at 6.15-6.2
Post by: Crypt_Current on February 03, 2012, 01:15:58 AM
The starfish is the most trustworthy trading indicator in the bitcoin market.

Yup, it has to go..
 if you cant fully leverage everyone 10 to 1, DONT OFFER ANY LEVERAGE MORE THAN THAT!!!


Im fucking sick of this Bitcoinica, its ruining the market

Yes, Bitcoinica is a blight on this market.

I agree.  But I've given in.  Bitcoinica isn't going anywhere, so fuck it.  The bitcoinica starfish has given me more profit than anything else.  Maybe if more people trade on it it'll dampen it's effect.  I don't know.  Whatever. 

I would be shorting on it, if I had any trading capital left over during these "long squeezes"... The long term is up, no question about that, so I have to go "all into" my positions at this point to make any sizeable profits.
But yeah, as soon as those profits start piling up, i'll trade on this "indicator" and hopefully others will follow.


Title: Re: leverage rally is done at 6.15-6.2
Post by: gewure on February 03, 2012, 03:40:11 AM
The starfish is the most trustworthy trading indicator in the bitcoin market.

..

how comes i see it on both sides then? - and nothing happens


Title: Re: leverage rally is done at 6.15-6.2
Post by: proudhon on February 03, 2012, 03:48:48 AM
The starfish is the most trustworthy trading indicator in the bitcoin market.

..

how comes i see it on both sides then? - and nothing happens

When it's on both sides it means there's a connection issue between MtGox's feed and bitcoinica.


Title: Re: leverage rally is done at 6.15-6.2
Post by: zhoutong on February 03, 2012, 04:01:18 AM
The starfish is the most trustworthy trading indicator in the bitcoin market.

Yup, it has to go..
 if you cant fully leverage everyone 10 to 1, DONT OFFER ANY LEVERAGE MORE THAN THAT!!!


Im fucking sick of this Bitcoinica, its ruining the market

How did Bitcoinica ruin the market? Basically Bitcoinica pushed the price up (from longs on margin) until it runs out of the available reserves.

If we didn't offer leverage then the rally wouldn't happen in the first place.

We stopped offering "more leverage" when we realize that we can't afford more. That's exactly what the asterisk means.


Title: Re: leverage rally is done at 6.15-6.2
Post by: proudhon on February 03, 2012, 04:32:14 AM
If we didn't offer leverage then the rally wouldn't happen in the first place.

Exactly.  And now that everyone is leveraged up the rally is over.  A nice long squeeze is immanent.


Title: Re: leverage rally is done at 6.15-6.2
Post by: Oldminer on February 03, 2012, 04:41:10 AM
http://i.istockimg.com/file_thumbview_approve/3214400/2/stock-photo-3214400-orange-juice-squeeze.jpg


Title: Re: leverage rally is done at 6.15-6.2
Post by: teflone on February 03, 2012, 04:43:41 AM
The starfish is the most trustworthy trading indicator in the bitcoin market.

Yup, it has to go..
 if you cant fully leverage everyone 10 to 1, DONT OFFER ANY LEVERAGE MORE THAN THAT!!!


Im fucking sick of this Bitcoinica, its ruining the market

How did Bitcoinica ruin the market? Basically Bitcoinica pushed the price up (from longs on margin) until it runs out of the available reserves.

If we didn't offer leverage then the rally wouldn't happen in the first place.

We stopped offering "more leverage" when we realize that we can't afford more. That's exactly what the asterisk means.

Then your letting people over leverage.
If you cant afford to have everyone to go full leverage, you shouldnt be be letting them go that far.

Do you understand what your doing by letting the world know you cant afford to give out more ?

But, Im sure you enjoy the sharp spikes down.


This is why you need to exist as an exchange outside of mtgox..



Title: Re: leverage rally is done at 6.15-6.2
Post by: StewartJ on February 03, 2012, 05:11:28 AM
The starfish is the most trustworthy trading indicator in the bitcoin market.

Yup, it has to go..
 if you cant fully leverage everyone 10 to 1, DONT OFFER ANY LEVERAGE MORE THAN THAT!!!


Im fucking sick of this Bitcoinica, its ruining the market

How did Bitcoinica ruin the market? Basically Bitcoinica pushed the price up (from longs on margin) until it runs out of the available reserves.

If we didn't offer leverage then the rally wouldn't happen in the first place.

We stopped offering "more leverage" when we realize that we can't afford more. That's exactly what the asterisk means.



Then your letting people over leverage.
If you cant afford to have everyone to go full leverage, you shouldnt be be letting them go that far.

Do you understand what your doing by letting the world know you cant afford to give out more ?

But, Im sure you enjoy the sharp spikes down.


This is why you need to exist as an exchange outside of mtgox..




+1

Wishing Zhou would take his Margincoinica outside of Gox....


Title: Re: leverage rally is done at 6.15-6.2
Post by: Crypt_Current on February 03, 2012, 05:14:46 AM
I think Zhou has stated elsewhere that he plans to start a full-fledged exchange as competition for MtGox...


Title: Re: leverage rally is done at 6.15-6.2
Post by: StewartJ on February 03, 2012, 05:18:04 AM
I think Zhou has stated elsewhere that he plans to start a full-fledged exchange as competition for MtGox...

Yes I know. Does he need any help?


Title: Re: leverage rally is done at 6.15-6.2
Post by: naima53 on February 03, 2012, 11:58:50 AM
If you cant afford to have everyone to go full leverage, you shouldnt be be letting them go that far.
i find this extremely funny

and how it all began ... (a little self-esteem) :) :) :)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=57178.msg682428#msg682428 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=57178.msg682428#msg682428)


Title: Re: leverage rally is done at 6.15-6.2
Post by: teflone on February 03, 2012, 06:07:57 PM
If you cant afford to have everyone to go full leverage, you shouldnt be be letting them go that far.
i find this extremely funny

Whats so funny about it ? :D

My point being, as a customer, I should never see the limit.  Nor should anyone else.


Title: Re: leverage rally is done at 6.15-6.2
Post by: teflone on February 03, 2012, 07:16:35 PM
If you cant afford to have everyone to go full leverage, you shouldnt be be letting them go that far.
i find this extremely funny

Whats so funny about it ? :D

My point being, as a customer, I should never see the limit.  Nor should anyone else.
yes but bitcoinica can refuse to give you service anytime they want, yes their choice to give you  service or not

Of course, but thats not what im talking about.

Its being leveraged to much, hes over extending himself on the behalf of its users, and the starfish is a result of that.

Its adding noise to the market..

A false price. a leveraged price that just causes wild swings so long as hes on mtgox..

So lets rape away! a pig like this you dont eat all at once!  lmao  love that joke someone posted



Title: Re: leverage rally is done at 6.15-6.2
Post by: stochastic on February 03, 2012, 08:43:51 PM
The starfish is the most trustworthy trading indicator in the bitcoin market.

Yup, it has to go..
 if you cant fully leverage everyone 10 to 1, DONT OFFER ANY LEVERAGE MORE THAN THAT!!!


Im fucking sick of this Bitcoinica, its ruining the market

They should be offering 25:1 leverage.


Title: Re: leverage rally is done at 6.15-6.2
Post by: proudhon on February 03, 2012, 08:56:13 PM
The starfish is the most trustworthy trading indicator in the bitcoin market.

Yup, it has to go..
 if you cant fully leverage everyone 10 to 1, DONT OFFER ANY LEVERAGE MORE THAN THAT!!!


Im fucking sick of this Bitcoinica, its ruining the market

They should be offering 25:1 leverage.
50:1 like on fiat world

9000:1 or go home.


Title: Re: leverage rally is done at 6.15-6.2
Post by: stochastic on February 03, 2012, 08:58:41 PM
The starfish is the most trustworthy trading indicator in the bitcoin market.

Yup, it has to go..
 if you cant fully leverage everyone 10 to 1, DONT OFFER ANY LEVERAGE MORE THAN THAT!!!


Im fucking sick of this Bitcoinica, its ruining the market

They should be offering 25:1 leverage.
50:1 like on fiat world

We are a dark net, why stop there?  200:1


Title: Re: leverage rally is done at 6.15-6.2
Post by: byronbb on February 03, 2012, 10:15:31 PM
Bitcoinica should have low limits at a max of 50Btc. Then the leverage isn't an issue and the big players aren't tempted to run squeezes or even use bitconica for their own purposes.


Title: Re: leverage rally is done at 6.15-6.2
Post by: stochastic on February 03, 2012, 10:23:54 PM
Bitcoinica should have low limits at a max of 50Btc. Then the leverage isn't an issue and the big players aren't tempted to run squeezes or even use bitconica for their own purposes.

There wouldn't be such squeezes if people stop playing around with the spare change they find in their couch and instead treat bitcoin as a serious currency.  Get more money or get squeezed out.


Title: Re: leverage rally is done at 6.15-6.2
Post by: Bro on February 04, 2012, 12:38:17 AM
if 6 is the new 7, does that mean 4 will be the new 3?