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Title: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: 247crypto on May 25, 2014, 09:53:52 AM Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: Nemo1024 on May 25, 2014, 11:00:09 AM You mean the way they completely accidentally fell into 4 accurate piles?
It's because of quantum... ;D Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: bryant.coleman on May 25, 2014, 11:29:19 AM At least half a dozen candidates were intimidated out of the election and the remaining candidates all have strong ties to the neo-Nazi Right Sector. This election is as meaningless as the North Korean presidential election.
Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: 247crypto on May 25, 2014, 11:48:03 AM https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BoeDKgQIYAEhire.jpg:large
http://s00.yaplakal.com/pics/pics_preview/1/2/8/3299821.jpg Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: bryant.coleman on May 25, 2014, 11:59:01 AM Very low turnout in TransCarpathia and Odessa for the fake elections (around half of the national average). Now, the Right Sector may send in their extremists to those provinces, for ballot stuffing.
Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: 247crypto on May 25, 2014, 12:12:24 PM Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: Nemo1024 on May 25, 2014, 02:29:29 PM I guess we just need to wait for the US State Department's announcement of who they (s)elected to be the (p)resident of Ukraine. ;D
And the insider info, in the face of Timoshenko, says the next round will be on the 15 of June, when Ukraine's joining NATO will be rubber-stamped. Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: bryant.coleman on May 25, 2014, 02:35:51 PM I guess we just need to wait for the US State Department's announcement of who they (s)elected to be the (p)resident of Ukraine. ;D And the insider info, in the face of Timoshenko, says the next round will be on the 15 of June, when Ukraine's joining NATO will be rubber-stamped. I think that they have already finalized on the billionaire chocolate king, after realizing that Tymoshenko's reputation is damaged beyond repair. ;D Poroshenko's net worth right now is around $1.3 billion. I hope that he will be able to increase it to $13.0 billion by the end of his term. Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: Nemo1024 on May 25, 2014, 07:02:10 PM I guess we just need to wait for the US State Department's announcement of who they (s)elected to be the (p)resident of Ukraine. ;D And the insider info, in the face of Timoshenko, says the next round will be on the 15 of June, when Ukraine's joining NATO will be rubber-stamped. I think that they have already finalized on the billionaire chocolate king, after realizing that Tymoshenko's reputation is damaged beyond repair. ;D Poroshenko's net worth right now is around $1.3 billion. I hope that he will be able to increase it to $13.0 billion by the end of his term. Seems you are right: Poroshenko (also known as Valtsman) just announced about his victory in the (s)elections, based on data from the exit polls: http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/05/25/n_6180341.shtml According to him 85% of people of Ukraine supported the "European choice of Ukraine". 85% of the Western and Central Ukraine, that is... Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: wachtwoord on May 25, 2014, 07:02:39 PM Lol, such anonymity.
Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: Nemo1024 on May 25, 2014, 07:07:57 PM Well, I guess he is going to be the second Gauleiter Erich Koch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Koch) of Washington-ruled Reichskommissariat Ukraine...
From http://rt.com/news/161360-ukraine-presidential-election-timeline/ 17:09 GMT: This video – which, according to the description was filmed in the port city of Odessa - shows a violation of the voting process at one of polling stations. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_UFyjGbvMQ The urns were not sealed and they had ballots pre-filled in them. http://rt.com/files/news/27/65/00/00/donetsk-5.jpg "Garbage bin for the President" Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: kerafym on May 25, 2014, 07:30:41 PM No such thing as fair election.
Even US is riddled with fraud. Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: wachtwoord on May 25, 2014, 07:32:40 PM No such thing as fair election. Even US is riddled with fraud. True, but did you see the photo? :D Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: Balthazar on May 25, 2014, 07:48:39 PM US don't need to perform any fraud because presidents are appointed by electoral college, not elected by people. :)
Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: bryant.coleman on May 26, 2014, 02:15:02 AM 'Vote at gunpoint,' anyone? US keen to legitimize 'good' election in Ukraine
http://rt.com/news/161416-ukraine-exit-polls-poroshenko Vote rigging in Odessa: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_UFyjGbvMQ Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: Swordsoffreedom on May 26, 2014, 04:11:43 AM If I recall the group that won this election originates from a Neo-Nazi group
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svoboda_%28political_party%29 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-hughes/the-neo-nazi-question-in_b_4938747.html As for the election itself if they lost it would have been condemned as rigged Since they won they are singing praises so i see a double standard myself. Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: bryant.coleman on May 26, 2014, 04:46:25 AM Seems like Poroshenko has won in the first round, with Tymoshenko getting less than 15% of the votes. America's other darlings, the neo-Nazis Oleg Liashko and Dmytro Yarosh received less than 10% combined.
Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: Nemo1024 on May 26, 2014, 07:11:19 AM 10 facts you need to know about Ukrainian presidential poll
http://rt.com/news/161276-ukraine-election-useful-facts/ Hmm... I knew of many of those, but two escaped my radar. I am quoting them below: Quote Fact 1 Presidential powers were considerably reduced in favor of the parliament right after the coup in Kiev. Oligarch Petr Poroshenko is likely to win office, according to public opinion polls. But after swearing an oath he, lacking his own party in the parliament, may find himself deadlocked on governmental decisions with Batkivschina (Fatherland) Party. Batkivshchina has strong contingent of MPs and is headed by Poroshenko’s main competitor, Yulia Tymoshenko. Quote Fact 6 The self-proclaimed governments of Donetsk and Lugansk said they would derail the election in their respective regions. But it will be considered valid anyway by Kiev. Actually, it will be considered valid even if it takes place in one constituency only. The new authorities amended the election bill to remove the minimum turnout requirement. So, basically, Timoshenko and her puppeteers will rule, while Poroshenko is just a face to take any eventual blame. And the result was indeed stacked up right from the start. 'Vote at gunpoint,' anyone? US keen to legitimize 'good' election in Ukraine http://rt.com/news/161408-us-ukraine-support-election/ Quote A team of American lawmakers is in Ukraine to observe the presidential election which Washington has called a historic milestone and provided over US$ 11.4 million to support the vote despite ongoing violence in eastern Ukraine. US senators Rob Portman (R-Ohio) and Benjamin Cardin (D-Maryland) arrived in Ukraine’s capital Kiev as a part of the American monitoring mission. The US team is led by former Secretary of State, Madeleine Albright. ... "Throughout the last few months, the Ukrainian people have repeatedly demonstrated their desire to choose their leaders without interference and to live in a democracy where they can determine their own future free of violence and intimidation," the US president said in a statement. "This election is another important step forward in the efforts of the Ukrainian government to unify the country and reach out to all of its citizens to ensure their concerns are addressed and aspirations met." ... “That is not something that can be done with the barrel of a gun pointed at you,” President Obama and said earlier this year, at a meeting with Ukraine’s acting Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk. Kiev has unleashed the army against those in the east of Ukraine who don’t want to be under its control. ... “We are fully aware…that it will no longer be possible to hold in a normal way elections on the vast territory of Donesk and Lugansk regions,” Arsen Avakov told a media conference. That does not change anything for the coup-imposed government in Kiev who amended the election bill to remove the minimum turnout requirement. Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: bryant.coleman on May 26, 2014, 09:48:05 AM Even after all that ballot stuffing, less than half the people voted in the provinces of Kharkov and Odessa. And there was hardly any polling in the Donetsk and Lugansk oblasts.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8f/%D0%AF%D0%B2%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%86%D1%96%D0%B2_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B7%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%85_%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%85_%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B7%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B0_%D0%A3%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%97%D0%BD%D0%B8_2014_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%BE%D0%BA%D1%80%D1%83%D0%B3%D0%B0%D1%85.PNG Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: Nemo1024 on May 26, 2014, 10:35:25 AM The image is pretty consistent with the previous elections, only this time, just to be on the safe side, the East didn't have anyone to vote for:
http://yablor.ru/blogs/dve-ukraini/3638493 Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: mladen00 on May 26, 2014, 11:30:29 AM Seems like Poroshenko isnt hazar jew anymore...
Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: bryant.coleman on May 26, 2014, 11:35:49 AM The image is pretty consistent with the previous elections, only this time, just to be on the safe side, the East didn't have anyone to vote for: Well... polling was much higher in 2010. Provinces such as Kharkov and Odessa recorded more than 65% polling, as compared to around 48% and 46% respectively this time. Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: Schleicher on May 26, 2014, 03:28:50 PM I wouldn't vote either if I'm being threatened with a machine gun.
Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: Rassah on May 28, 2014, 04:07:15 AM Even after all that ballot stuffing, less than half the people voted in the provinces of Kharkov and Odessa. And there was hardly any polling in the Donetsk and Lugansk oblasts. What were the machine gun carrying pro-Russia militants afraid of when they were preventing people from voting in those regions? The truth that Ukrainians DON'T actually want fascists in power, or that they DON'T support Russian dictatorship? Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: bryant.coleman on May 28, 2014, 12:24:32 PM What were the machine gun carrying pro-Russia militants afraid of when they were preventing people from voting in those regions? The truth that Ukrainians DON'T actually want fascists in power, or that they DON'T support Russian dictatorship? If someone in the rebel controlled areas wanted to vote, they were free to do so. Additional polling stations were set up in cities such as Kharkov, where citizens from Donetsk and Lugansk could vote. But only around 5% of the population did voted in these locations. Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: stompix on May 28, 2014, 12:28:00 PM What were the machine gun carrying pro-Russia militants afraid of when they were preventing people from voting in those regions? The truth that Ukrainians DON'T actually want fascists in power, or that they DON'T support Russian dictatorship? If someone in the rebel controlled areas wanted to vote, they were free to do so. Additional polling stations were set up in cities such as Kharkov, where citizens from Donetsk and Lugansk could vote. But only around 5% of the population did voted in these locations. Because they were afraid of the pro russian guerrilla that were patrolling near those voting sections , captain obvious. Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: 247crypto on May 28, 2014, 09:42:07 PM Because they were afraid of the pro russian guerrilla that were patrolling near those voting sections , captain obvious. Buy the Globe of Ukraine. http://i1.i.ua/prikol/pic/8/8/164388.jpg Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: bryant.coleman on May 29, 2014, 10:14:23 AM My analysis of the Ukrainian elections:
1. More than half of the voters in the South and East stayed away from the so called presidential elections of 25th May. 2. Despite all the vote rigging, propaganda and intimidation by the Right Sector and the CIA-backed candidate Petro Poroshenko, more than half of the voters in provinces such as Kharkov and Odessa voted for the anti-Maidan candidates (see the Map of support for Poroshenko below): http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9d/Poroshenko_2014%28PR%29.png/300px-Poroshenko_2014%28PR%29.png Anti-maidan support (remember that most of the anti-Maidan civilians boycotted the poll): Dobkin: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Dobkin_2014%28PR%29.png/300px-Dobkin_2014%28PR%29.png Tigipko: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ef/Tihibko_2014%28PR%29.png/300px-Tihibko_2014%28PR%29.png Rabinovich: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/71/Rabinovych_2014%28PR%29.png/300px-Rabinovych_2014%28PR%29.png Symonenko: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/aa/Symonenko_2014%28PR%29.png/300px-Symonenko_2014%28PR%29.png Konovalyuk: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Konovalyuk_2014%28PR%29.png/300px-Konovalyuk_2014%28PR%29.png Boyko: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Boiko_2014%28PR%29.png/300px-Boiko_2014%28PR%29.png There are a few other anti-Maidan cadidates as well, but I am not posting their support. 3. Even in cities and villages which are currently under the occupation of Right Sector, the anti-Maidan scored more than 50% of the votes. Here are the examples: a. Izyum (Kharkov Oblast). Polling: 38%. Anti-Maidan votes (Dobkin - 14%, Tigipko - 12%, Rabinovic - 11%, Symonenko - 6%, Others - around 5%). b. Melitopol: Polling - 39%. Anti-Maidan votes (Dobkin - 9%, Tigipko - 16%, Rabinovic - 9%, Symonenko - 4%, Others - around 5%). c. Dmitrov: Polling - 13%. Anti-Maidan votes (Dobkin - 7%, Tigipko - 20%, Rabinovic - 4%, Symonenko - 4%, Others - around 5%). Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: Nemo1024 on May 29, 2014, 10:36:47 AM This turned up on the Russian sub-forum Crimea thread:
http://img.likeness.ru/uploads/users/12947/1401055979.jpg Guess who's Yanukovich and who's Poroshenko/Valtsman? :) The final counting of the votes show that 54.7% voted for Valtsman. http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/05/29/n_6191201.shtml Last I hear that was about 6 million votes out of 42 million population (and let's say that about 36 million can vote), which gives about 14%-17% approval. Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: monbux on May 29, 2014, 08:49:41 PM Election fraud is found through out the world, even developed countries such as the United States.
For example: March 30, 1855 - An election to decide whether Kansas should be a free state or a slave state involving massive immigration to sway the vote and resulted in post-election violence, including a severe beating of a US Senator by a Congressman. The events it encompasses directly presaged the American Civil War. -T Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: Nemo1024 on May 30, 2014, 07:30:31 AM ‘The disgraced oligarch’: WikiLeaks cables reveal changing US views on Poroshenko
http://rt.com/news/162396-wikileaks-cables-us-poroshenko/ Quote The US was among the first states to congratulate Ukraine's president-elect Petro Poroshenko. Yet real US opinions of the new president are more complicated, as revealed by WikiLeaks cables which refer to the billionaire as a “disgraced oligarch.” Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: bryant.coleman on May 30, 2014, 01:00:51 PM ‘The disgraced oligarch’: WikiLeaks cables reveal changing US views on Poroshenko It is clear that the CIA and NATO were preferring the gas princess to become the Ukrainian president. Once it became clear that her reputation is tarnished beyond repair, they threw their weight behind the chocolate king. But he should remember that he could be toppled anytime by his masters. So... obey the orders without any hiccup. ;D Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: Balthazar on June 01, 2014, 12:32:09 PM Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: bryant.coleman on June 01, 2014, 12:39:20 PM This is the final turnout in the Eastern and Southern Provinces:
Donetsk: 3.22% Lugansk: 4.79% Odessa: 46.13% Kharkov: 48.02% Zaporizhia: 51.09% Kherson: 51.61% Nikolaev: 51.64% Dnipropetrovsk: 55.44% Total number of registered voters in the South East: 14,854,013 Total number of votes cast in the South East during the 2014 elections: 5,162,665 Turnout: 34.76% Almost two-thirds of the voters boycotted the polls, and still the NATOis claiming that the elections were legit. ;D Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: Balthazar on June 01, 2014, 12:48:47 PM OFFICIAL BALLOT Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: bryant.coleman on June 01, 2014, 01:17:43 PM ^^^^ I have no intention of becoming president.... will support you. ;D
[ ] 247crypto [X] Balthazar [ ] bryant.coleman Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: kha0S on June 01, 2014, 01:21:05 PM You got my vote as long as NVC becomes official Ukraine crypto currency:
[ ] 247crypto [X] Balthazar [ ] bryant.coleman Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: Nemo1024 on June 01, 2014, 03:08:35 PM Can I vote for myself? You know, to keep the spirit of the new Ukrainian elections?
Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: Balthazar on June 01, 2014, 03:37:51 PM Of course, but the guarding officers aren't sleeping and ready to apply a required grade of democratic correction. You know, to keep the spirit of the new Ukrainian elections. :D
Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: bryant.coleman on June 01, 2014, 03:38:59 PM Can I vote for myself? You know, to keep the spirit of the new Ukrainian elections? Perhaps that is allowed. But there are certain conditions. If elected as the president, you should transfer the Forex and Gold reserves to the CIA. Also, the control of all the natural resources will be with the American corporations. ;D Title: Re: Fake Elections in Ukraine. Post by: Nemo1024 on June 01, 2014, 03:51:04 PM Can I vote for myself? You know, to keep the spirit of the new Ukrainian elections? Perhaps that is allowed. But there are certain conditions. If elected as the president, you should transfer the Forex and Gold reserves to the CIA. Also, the control of all the natural resources will be with the American corporations. ;D Can I bomb the people out of their homes to give easier access to natural resources? Please, say I can! Pretty please! Oh, and the gold has already been taken care of by the interim government... |
