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Title: secret opinion of Chinese government on Bitcoin
Post by: coldguy on May 26, 2014, 04:31:22 AM
@zhangjialong is a blogger and twitter in Chinese. He was a web editor of Tencent(qq.com), until 22nd May. On 23rd May, he was terminated the contract with Tencent because "leaking business secrets and other confidential and sensitive information". The real reason for this termination is because on Feb 15th 2014, he joined a meeting in Beijing with the U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry. During the meeting he had expressed what the Chinese propaganda department considered "radical" expression, and most importantly, he disclosed the Propaganda department's directives targeting news and incidents.

In one of these directives, it is about how the Chinese government's propaganda opinion on bitcoin related business.

“2014 Bitcoin International Summit” will be held on May 10-11 in Beijing. Websites may not participate or cover the summit, nor hype about bitcoin. In the future, any reports about bitcoin must keep in line with financial regulators. Please implement the requirement immediately.

Chinese government want to control everything, as you may know. Bitcoin now is among a series of dissenter's news, which is Chinese government's opinion on it.


Title: Re: secret opinion of Chinese government on Bitcoin
Post by: polunna on May 26, 2014, 12:48:38 PM
This is not surprising! China's government clearly justifies its position in relation to the Bitcoins.


Title: Re: secret opinion of Chinese government on Bitcoin
Post by: dwma on May 27, 2014, 06:52:51 AM

I always wonder if Bitcoin hadn't been such a Western invention and had came about in China, would they still have the same approach ?


Title: Re: secret opinion of Chinese government on Bitcoin
Post by: master-P on May 28, 2014, 04:59:34 AM

I always wonder if Bitcoin hadn't been such a Western invention and had came about in China, would they still have the same approach ?

It may well be a western invention, but we'll never know for sure, unless satoshi is discovered. I think because of BTC's decentralized nature, it doesn't really matter where it all started, as it will spread to all the corners of the globe eventually.


Title: Re: secret opinion of Chinese government on Bitcoin
Post by: johnatan32 on May 28, 2014, 03:07:12 PM
This is not surprising! China's government clearly justifies its position in relation to the Bitcoins.

I strongly agree with you


Title: Re: secret opinion of Chinese government on Bitcoin
Post by: cbeast on May 28, 2014, 03:45:14 PM
If China is correct in their assessments about Bitcoin, then Western nations will likely follow suit.


Title: Re: secret opinion of Chinese government on Bitcoin
Post by: Ron~Popeil on June 07, 2014, 08:10:26 AM

I always wonder if Bitcoin hadn't been such a Western invention and had came about in China, would they still have the same approach ?

Bit coin takes power from governments so I would think yes they would. Tyrants never go away quietly.


Title: Re: secret opinion of Chinese government on Bitcoin
Post by: Harley997 on June 16, 2014, 11:53:24 PM
It is very interesting to trust anything that comes out of the Chinese media.

The Media is government controlled and will spin things when a free speech advocate is arrested.

IMO it is very unlikely he was actually leaking secrets.


Title: Re: secret opinion of Chinese government on Bitcoin
Post by: keithers on June 17, 2014, 04:19:30 AM
The Chinese Gov't has been buying up holdings in BTC for a long time now.   They will ease up on some of the regulations once they feel that they have a large enough holding to give them the sense of control.



Title: Re: secret opinion of Chinese government on Bitcoin
Post by: jbrnt on June 17, 2014, 04:32:30 AM
“2014 Bitcoin International Summit” will be held on May 10-11 in Beijing. Websites may not participate or cover the summit, nor hype about bitcoin. In the future, any reports about bitcoin must keep in line with financial regulators. Please implement the requirement immediately.

This may sounded like a government secret, but it is totally expected. China wants to control the media and stop foreign journalist covering stories on their corruption. Just look at the great firewall of china, what more can you say?


Title: Re: secret opinion of Chinese government on Bitcoin
Post by: ShakyhandsBTCer on June 17, 2014, 04:58:55 AM
The Chinese Gov't has been buying up holdings in BTC for a long time now.   They will ease up on some of the regulations once they feel that they have a large enough holding to give them the sense of control.



This is probably not true.

The chinese government likes to keep control of their currency (that restrict the price their fiat currency trades at in dollars and have restrictive capital controls). Bitcoin would not give them this level of control.


Title: Re: secret opinion of Chinese government on Bitcoin
Post by: beetcoin on June 17, 2014, 08:53:01 AM
The Chinese Gov't has been buying up holdings in BTC for a long time now.   They will ease up on some of the regulations once they feel that they have a large enough holding to give them the sense of control.



This is probably not true.

The chinese government likes to keep control of their currency (that restrict the price their fiat currency trades at in dollars and have restrictive capital controls). Bitcoin would not give them this level of control.

and more specifically, they don't want chinese citizens to move their money out of the country, as they consider this as something that will hurt their economy.

i think the state wants to control everything so badly that it won't accept bitcoin.. because bitcoin makes controlling shit a lot harder.


Title: Re: secret opinion of Chinese government on Bitcoin
Post by: BitcoinLlama on June 17, 2014, 08:54:21 AM
I have heard other Chinese investors say things are more mellow there than some think, but yeah media can't comment on it unless it's direct from the authority.


Title: Re: secret opinion of Chinese government on Bitcoin
Post by: beetcoin on June 17, 2014, 08:59:37 AM
isn't it funny that the U.S. is run by billionaires and corporations, while china is run by its totalitarian government? completely different approaches.


Title: Re: secret opinion of Chinese government on Bitcoin
Post by: ShakyhandsBTCer on June 17, 2014, 10:26:22 PM
The Chinese Gov't has been buying up holdings in BTC for a long time now.   They will ease up on some of the regulations once they feel that they have a large enough holding to give them the sense of control.



This is probably not true.

The chinese government likes to keep control of their currency (that restrict the price their fiat currency trades at in dollars and have restrictive capital controls). Bitcoin would not give them this level of control.

and more specifically, they don't want chinese citizens to move their money out of the country, as they consider this as something that will hurt their economy.

i think the state wants to control everything so badly that it won't accept bitcoin.. because bitcoin makes controlling shit a lot harder.

Controlling bitcoin makes capital controls impossible.

The Chinese do have a lot of control over a lot of things, more then what is probably best.


Title: Re: secret opinion of Chinese government on Bitcoin
Post by: Harley997 on June 18, 2014, 02:18:18 AM
isn't it funny that the U.S. is run by billionaires and corporations, while china is run by its totalitarian government? completely different approaches.

The Chinese feed their people misinformation and fear. Just like they do in this article.


Title: Re: secret opinion of Chinese government on Bitcoin
Post by: Wardrick on June 18, 2014, 06:52:13 AM
isn't it funny that the U.S. is run by billionaires and corporations, while china is run by its totalitarian government? completely different approaches.

The Chinese feed their people misinformation and fear. Just like they do in this article.

China has huge ghost towns built just to increase their economy. They have replicas of cities like Paris and other famous places that nobody lives in.


Title: Re: secret opinion of Chinese government on Bitcoin
Post by: greyhawk on June 18, 2014, 10:57:45 AM
isn't it funny that the U.S. is run by billionaires and corporations, while china is run by its totalitarian government? completely different approaches.

The Chinese feed their people misinformation and fear. Just like they do in this article.

China has huge ghost towns built just to increase their economy. They have replicas of cities like Paris and other famous places that nobody lives in.

How strange. They also exist in my head too whenever I go to sleep.

Truespeak: The main reason why the Tianducheng tourist resort (aka Chinese Ghost Paris) does not contain visitors is that it is not finished yet.


Title: Re: secret opinion of Chinese government on Bitcoin
Post by: sgk on June 18, 2014, 12:18:12 PM
@zhangjialong is a blogger and twitter in Chinese. He was a web editor of Tencent(qq.com), until 22nd May. On 23rd May, he was terminated the contract with Tencent because "leaking business secrets and other confidential and sensitive information". The real reason for this termination is because on Feb 15th 2014, he joined a meeting in Beijing with the U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry. During the meeting he had expressed what the Chinese propaganda department considered "radical" expression, and most importantly, he disclosed the Propaganda department's directives targeting news and incidents.

In one of these directives, it is about how the Chinese government's propaganda opinion on bitcoin related business.

“2014 Bitcoin International Summit” will be held on May 10-11 in Beijing. Websites may not participate or cover the summit, nor hype about bitcoin. In the future, any reports about bitcoin must keep in line with financial regulators. Please implement the requirement immediately.

Chinese government want to control everything, as you may know. Bitcoin now is among a series of dissenter's news, which is Chinese government's opinion on it.

While all of what you've said is true, where is the 'secret' part? Whatever you said is 'open' opinion of Chinese government.


Title: Re: secret opinion of Chinese government on Bitcoin
Post by: Wardrick on June 18, 2014, 06:09:32 PM
isn't it funny that the U.S. is run by billionaires and corporations, while china is run by its totalitarian government? completely different approaches.

The Chinese feed their people misinformation and fear. Just like they do in this article.

China has huge ghost towns built just to increase their economy. They have replicas of cities like Paris and other famous places that nobody lives in.

How strange. They also exist in my head too whenever I go to sleep.

Truespeak: The main reason why the Tianducheng tourist resort (aka Chinese Ghost Paris) does not contain visitors is that it is not finished yet.

They have towns that can hold hundreds of thousands of people but only about 30,000 people live in them, or they're just empty. It was a documentary in vice, it was pretty weird.


Title: Re: secret opinion of Chinese government on Bitcoin
Post by: cech4204a on June 19, 2014, 05:30:50 AM
Another fake stuff from china, i can't believe that they are holding BTC market in their hands with stupid news they throw out from time to time. Somewhere i was reading about chinese miners, that they hold like more than one third of all mining power, is that true?


Title: Re: secret opinion of Chinese government on Bitcoin
Post by: ShakyhandsBTCer on June 19, 2014, 07:41:56 AM
isn't it funny that the U.S. is run by billionaires and corporations, while china is run by its totalitarian government? completely different approaches.

The Chinese feed their people misinformation and fear. Just like they do in this article.

China has huge ghost towns built just to increase their economy. They have replicas of cities like Paris and other famous places that nobody lives in.

How strange. They also exist in my head too whenever I go to sleep.

Truespeak: The main reason why the Tianducheng tourist resort (aka Chinese Ghost Paris) does not contain visitors is that it is not finished yet.

They have towns that can hold hundreds of thousands of people but only about 30,000 people live in them, or they're just empty. It was a documentary in vice, it was pretty weird.

I think they do this to stimulate their economy. They build things that would never be used to their capacity to provide jobs to their people. These people who work on these projects spend money thinking that they are better off then they really are.