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Title: New AMD drivers... 14.6... possible speed increase?
Post by: MTJ151 on May 27, 2014, 03:14:04 PM
Are due to be released today.

But it seems they have already been leaked here: http://www.overclock.net/t/1492046/amd-catalyst-14-6-leak-download-link

I've tried them out and initially thought I had a good increase while mining x11 coins. (>4mh per 280x using the new miner & new drivers).

However, I then noticed I was not getting any accepted shares and lots of HW errors. Messed around with my settings but always got HW errors.

Anyone else want to give it a go and report back?

Interestingly enough I tried mining some script and that worked... although my hashrate was lower then the 13.2 drivers... I didn't mess around with it too much to see if I could get equal/better performance with different settings.


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6
Post by: tuanvie on May 27, 2014, 04:21:44 PM
means the new driver if there is a new setting to be done?
to get better results?

I tried mining x11 and have not been successful to date


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6
Post by: MTJ151 on May 27, 2014, 09:06:10 PM
AMD have now released the official version.

Still can't get it to mine X11 though. It gives readings of 4mh + for my 280x's but only HW errors :(

Anyone know why?


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6
Post by: Remember remember the 5th of November on May 27, 2014, 09:08:32 PM
AMD have now released the official version.

Still can't get it to mine X11 though. It gives readings of 4mh + for my 280x's but only HW errors :(

Anyone know why?
We would have to wait for more users to test, but if it happens to everybody then AMD have screwed up their OpenCL implementation.


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6
Post by: MTJ151 on May 27, 2014, 09:18:23 PM
Thanks Remember!

If anyone wants to give it a go you can get the new official driver from:

http://support.amd.com/en-us/download

Perhaps I uninstalled the old driver incorrectly or something and the new one does actually improve hash. Please let us know how it goes if you do try it out!

Note that the new driver im referring to is 14.6. I think most people mine using 13.12. Also note that my hash went from 3.3mh using the new miner on 13.12 drivers to 3.5mh on the 14.4 drivers for x11 (with a decrease in engine speed too)... although scrypt mining lost a little hash. The 14.6 drivers were quoted to make a 25% improvement to games so I'm hoping hash will be even better then 14.4. If it actually works......



Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6
Post by: MajidBC on May 27, 2014, 09:30:55 PM

Note that the new driver im referring to is 14.6. I think most people mine using 13.12. Also note that my hash went from 3.3mh using the new miner on 13.12 drivers to 3.5mh on the 14.4 drivers for x11 (with a decrease in engine speed too)...


I'm using 280x with 14.4 drivers in Ubuntu 14.04, but just getting around 2.3 MH/s at 1100/1500. can you please tell me where I am wrong?


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6
Post by: MTJ151 on May 27, 2014, 09:51:11 PM
Im running 280x toxic's. I also have a 280x msi thats getting 3.3mh. All running on Windows 7 64x.

Using the following config for the toxics:

set PATH=%PATH%;./dlls
set TERMINFO=.\dlls\terminfo
setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
del *.bin
sgminer.exe -k darkcoin -g 2 -w 256 -I 19 --thread-concurrency=8192 --gpu-engine=1150 --gpu-memclock=1600 --auto-fan --auto-gpu --gpu-powertune=-20 --gpu-vddc=1.2 --shaders 2048 -o stratum+tcp://drk.minep.it:3365 -u username.workername -p pass --temp-cutoff 80 --temp-overheat 79 --temp-target 72 --expiry 1 --scan-time 1 --queue 0
pause

For the MSi I use:

set PATH=%PATH%;./dlls
set TERMINFO=.\dlls\terminfo
setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
del *.bin
sgminer.exe -k darkcoin --gpu-vddc=1.2 -g 2 -w 256 -I 19 --thread-concurrency=8193 --gpu-engine=1080 --gpu-memclock=1500 --auto-fan --auto-gpu --gpu-powertune=-20 -o stratum+tcp://drk.minep.it:3365 -u username.workername -p pass --temp-cutoff 80 --temp-overheat 79 --temp-target 72 --expiry 1 --scan-time 1 --queue 0
pause

Im also using the 2% version of SG miner from here (hence the 1st two lines of my bat file):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=616786.0


The 2% version made my hash go from 2.3mh to 3.3mh. Then the 14.14 driver made it go up to 3.5. The new 14.6 drivers give me more then 4mh's but they are not accepted... only get HW errors.


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6
Post by: MajidBC on May 27, 2014, 09:58:49 PM
Im running 280x toxic's. I also have a 280x msi thats getting 3.3mh. All running on Windows 7 64x.

Using the following config for the toxics:

set PATH=%PATH%;./dlls
set TERMINFO=.\dlls\terminfo
setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
del *.bin
sgminer.exe -k darkcoin -g 2 -w 256 -I 19 --thread-concurrency=8192 --gpu-engine=1150 --gpu-memclock=1600 --auto-fan --auto-gpu --gpu-powertune=-20 --gpu-vddc=1.2 --shaders 2048 -o stratum+tcp://drk.minep.it:3365 -u username.workername -p pass --temp-cutoff 80 --temp-overheat 79 --temp-target 72 --expiry 1 --scan-time 1 --queue 0
pause

For the MSi I use:

set PATH=%PATH%;./dlls
set TERMINFO=.\dlls\terminfo
setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
del *.bin
sgminer.exe -k darkcoin --gpu-vddc=1.2 -g 2 -w 256 -I 19 --thread-concurrency=8193 --gpu-engine=1080 --gpu-memclock=1500 --auto-fan --auto-gpu --gpu-powertune=-20 -o stratum+tcp://drk.minep.it:3365 -u username.workername -p pass --temp-cutoff 80 --temp-overheat 79 --temp-target 72 --expiry 1 --scan-time 1 --queue 0
pause

Im also using the 2% version of SG miner from here (hence the 1st two lines of my bat file):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=616786.0


The 2% version made my hash go from 2.3mh to 3.3mh. Then the 14.14 driver made it go up to 3.5. The new 14.6 drivers give me more then 4mh's but they are not accepted... only get HW errors.

Thanks a lot. I will try them. By the way, is the 2% version safe? Have you tried the other versions like lasybear's?


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6
Post by: SavageWS6 on May 27, 2014, 10:01:55 PM
If people are getting more MH/s and more HW errors... I'm assuming there was changes or vastly updated OpenCL library. I'm not physically near my rig so I don't wanna take the chance of updating drivers 2500 miles away atm. I may try them once I go back

EDIT: Checked, guess its the same OpenCL library. Still not sure why it would introduce more HW errors


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6
Post by: MTJ151 on May 27, 2014, 10:05:14 PM
I've had no problems with the 2% version and I'm fairly sure it works as described. You can cancel the 2% fee pool by pressing 'P,C,Zero'... although I think I read that he cancelled it anyway?

I have not tried the other versions that have been made since. I read some of the threads and decided to wait a while before spending more time with it for now... since the other one works good and no1 reports improved results as far as I can see.

Re the last post:
I'm not sure if they changed anything to do with OpenCL.. They apparently made it so you could do 'eyefinity' at different resolutions (run multiple monitors for gaming at different resolutions and made it so you could change the colour between the monitors or something).

If they have changed openCL does that mean that the drivers are messged up (being beta) or does it mean the miner needs to change to allow it??


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6
Post by: MTJ151 on May 27, 2014, 10:08:22 PM
EDIT: Checked, guess its the same OpenCL library. Still not sure why it would introduce more HW errors

We need someone else to give it a whirl for us!!


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6
Post by: SavageWS6 on May 27, 2014, 10:09:17 PM
EDIT: Checked, guess its the same OpenCL library. Still not sure why it would introduce more HW errors

We need someone else to give it a whirl for us!!

I've had no problems with the 2% version and I'm fairly sure it works as described. You can cancel the 2% fee pool by pressing 'P,C,Zero'... although I think I read that he cancelled it anyway?

I have not tried the other versions that have been made since. I read some of the threads and decided to wait a while before spending more time with it for now... since the other one works good and no1 reports improved results as far as I can see.

Re the last post:
I'm not sure if they changed anything to do with OpenCL.. They apparently made it so you could do 'eyefinity' at different resolutions (run multiple monitors for gaming at different resolutions and made it so you could change the colour between the monitors or something).

If they have changed openCL does that mean that the drivers are messged up (being beta) or does it mean the miner needs to change to allow it??

haha ya I just edited my post about OpenCL not being changed. well I usually don't touch beta drivers. I can't say exactly what its doing differently (wish I could look at it and read it but I can't reverse engineer anything myself)

I'm 2500 miles away though lmao. Ya technically I could do it through teamviewer but.. If this goes south, I can't get to the rig till June 7th


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6
Post by: MTJ151 on May 27, 2014, 10:20:42 PM
I don't blame you dude... im sitting next to my rig and having problems!!


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6
Post by: SavageWS6 on May 27, 2014, 10:21:59 PM
I don't blame you dude... im sitting next to my rig and having problems!!

Damn, You using the optimized sgminrer for X11 coins? Maybe it has something to do with it coming from different driver versions.. but I really have no idea


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6
Post by: MTJ151 on May 27, 2014, 10:37:46 PM
Tried the 2% version and the latest release of sgminer I think.


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6... possible speed increase?
Post by: MTJ151 on May 27, 2014, 11:23:54 PM
Well, I'm about to give up and go back to 14.4 drivers I think! After fiddling around for a while it seems like the miner program (sgminer) does not actually change the clock speeds etc. I am watching the clock speeds using gpuz and whenever I run the miner the clocks restore to default. Perhaps this problem extends to more then just the clock speeds and in turn causing HW errors.


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6
Post by: hero18688 on May 28, 2014, 02:04:05 AM
Thanks Remember!

If anyone wants to give it a go you can get the new official driver from:

http://support.amd.com/en-us/download (http://support.amd.com/en-us/download)

Perhaps I uninstalled the old driver incorrectly or something and the new one does actually improve hash. Please let us know how it goes if you do try it out!

Note that the new 'beta' driver is 14.6. I think most people mine using 13.12. Also note that my hash went from 3.3mh using the new miner on 13.12 drivers to 3.5mh on the 14.4 drivers. The 14.6 drivers were quoted to make a 25% improvement to games so I'm hoping hash will be even better then 14.4. If it actually works......
I got 3.35mh with 14.4.How can you make it to 3.5mh?
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Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6... possible speed increase?
Post by: Glizlack on May 28, 2014, 03:06:23 AM
hoping for some good news here. Another speed boost would be fantastic.

Steve


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6... possible speed increase?
Post by: tsumeone on May 28, 2014, 03:13:47 AM
After moving to 14.6 got an error starting sgminer saying my TC was too high.  Worked fine on 14.4.  Deleted bin, same error.  Decreased TC a bit, it started but all HW errors.  Going back to 14.4.  This is on reference R9 290 cards.


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6... possible speed increase?
Post by: MTJ151 on May 28, 2014, 09:31:56 AM
So the drivers are broken when it comes to mining it seems?


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6... possible speed increase?
Post by: tsumeone on May 28, 2014, 10:43:45 AM
So the drivers are broken when it comes to mining it seems?

Yes.

Also, I had to use Display Driver Uninstaller from Guru3D to dislodge this driver from my PC.  Simply uninstalling it and re-installing 14.4 did not replace the OpenCL file with the 14.4 version, so I still had HW rejects.  This is fairly typical of AMD drivers though.


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6... possible speed increase?
Post by: MTJ151 on May 28, 2014, 10:58:53 AM
Well, thanks for giving it a go Tsumeone. Thanks for saying about DDU also... woke up this morning and noticed lots of rejects.... will have to also run DDU.


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6... possible speed increase?
Post by: Chugumoto on May 28, 2014, 11:41:37 AM
installed top of 14.4 without clearing
noticing the changes on x11
win8.1 x64/msi r9 270x gaming 2g


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6... possible speed increase?
Post by: MTJ151 on May 28, 2014, 12:34:04 PM
installed top of 14.4 without clearing
noticing the changes on x11
win8.1 x64/msi r9 270x gaming 2g

it's working for you??


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6... possible speed increase?
Post by: karimdr2 on May 28, 2014, 07:13:05 PM
Same problem here, 4,1 Mh/s but 0 WU + HW. I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 + Catalys 14.6. Girino mod work fine.


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6... possible speed increase?
Post by: Chugumoto on May 29, 2014, 05:27:58 AM
it's working for you??
yes
just started some problems with fan and periodically fall off due to overheating

sorry :)
after regeneration bin file see an increase in speed from 2200 to 3000 and only HW :)


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6... possible speed increase?
Post by: broken_pixel on June 02, 2014, 10:24:19 PM
After moving to 14.6 got an error starting sgminer saying my TC was too high.  Worked fine on 14.4.  Deleted bin, same error.  Decreased TC a bit, it started but all HW errors.  Going back to 14.4.  This is on reference R9 290 cards.

Same results for me, AMD has done a number on their drivers when it comes to mining.


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6... possible speed increase?
Post by: MTJ151 on June 02, 2014, 11:37:28 PM
When i last looked at it it seemed that I couldn't over/under clock the card with the new drivers. Maybe sgminer is not able to change the card settings or something resulting in incorrect TC and only HW errors?


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6... possible speed increase?
Post by: utlord on June 03, 2014, 07:07:36 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=525926.msg7113267#msg7113267


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6... possible speed increase?
Post by: sgi02 on June 04, 2014, 12:56:10 AM
It's been at least a week or so now, is 13.12 still the definitive driver revision all things considered or should I wait for the next Catalyst release?


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6... possible speed increase?
Post by: MTJ151 on June 04, 2014, 12:20:00 PM
For scrypt 13.12 is best for me. x11 I've found 14.4 to be the best.


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6... possible speed increase?
Post by: MTJ151 on June 04, 2014, 12:26:50 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=525926.msg7113267#msg7113267

Interesting.... apparently 14.6 drivers are working for groestl


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6... possible speed increase?
Post by: utahjohn on June 07, 2014, 07:04:32 AM
I can confirm that catalyst 14.6 beta increases hashrate on x11mod from 3.1 to 3.7 HOWEVER I am getting absolutely no shares accepted.  Going back to 14.4.

EDIT: 14.4 working fine with x11mod.  14.6 beta breaks something in x11mod.cl (darkcoin.cl works on 14.6)

Yep :(

See here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=627142.0

Make sure you completely remove the amd drivers when reverting back!

I used DDU to get rid of 14.6.  I fought x11mod for a day trying to get it going on 14.6 LOL.

14.6 broken :(

And i'm so glad you guys know what you're doing, because otherwise I get a ton of emails like "shits broke, fix it", and can't find the problem :)

Clearly the problem is with the new OpenCL implementation as I had to delete all the *.bin files generated with 14.6 to get 14.4 working again ...


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6... possible speed increase?
Post by: Amph on June 07, 2014, 07:07:12 AM
just wait for the new release, beta drivers aren't that good


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6... possible speed increase?
Post by: utahjohn on June 07, 2014, 09:11:06 AM
Does anyone know what the diff is between x11mod.cl and darkcoin.cl?  ... What is broken in it that 14.6 fails with x11mod?  When I open these files in notepad on winblowz I get a mess without newlines so I'll not mess with trying to find problem LOL.
These files must have been created on a Linux box LOL.  Anyone want to fix so Winblowz readable? HAHA


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6... possible speed increase?
Post by: Starscream on June 12, 2014, 08:57:22 AM
just wait for the new release, beta drivers aren't that good
+1 (most of the times).


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6... possible speed increase?
Post by: Zulandio on June 12, 2014, 10:27:08 PM
Dang I installed 14.6 and the first thing I mined was a Grosetl coin. It works good for that I can confirm but x11 only HW errors.


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6... possible speed increase?
Post by: whitemage on June 13, 2014, 12:42:11 AM
Dang I installed 14.6 and the first thing I mined was a Grosetl coin. It works good for that I can confirm but x11 only HW errors.

That sucks, so you pretty much can mine grosetl coin only..


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6... possible speed increase?
Post by: kingscrown on June 13, 2014, 02:20:16 AM
AMD loves to fai lwith new drivers.


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6... possible speed increase?
Post by: djm34 on June 13, 2014, 11:13:25 AM
AMD loves to fai lwith new drivers.
try to run on groestl, you'll see how much fail it is...  ::)


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6... possible speed increase?
Post by: FlyForFun on June 13, 2014, 11:51:15 AM
Anybody have a modified 14.6 which work?


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6... possible speed increase?
Post by: djm34 on June 13, 2014, 11:52:51 AM
Anybody have a modified 14.6 which work?
it would certainly be better to modify the kernel of sgminer. Someone should have a look and try to solve the problem.


Title: Re: New AMD drivers... 14.6... possible speed increase?
Post by: katak on June 15, 2014, 11:22:33 AM
I only could find this file:

http://wikisend.com/download/314578/amd14.6_mod_inf_6x_gpu.zip

It's not a inf file... does anyone know where I can get it ?

Thx