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Title: antares owes me 1 btc
Post by: gallery2000 on May 27, 2014, 11:50:48 PM
I sent antares 1 btc but he never send me any money. 


Title: Re: antares owes me 1 btc
Post by: devthedev on May 27, 2014, 11:56:05 PM
Please include more information about the agreement and such.


Title: Re: antares owes me 1 btc
Post by: gallery2000 on May 28, 2014, 12:10:07 AM
Please include more information about the agreement and such.

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« Sent to: antares on: May 26, 2014, 12:42:22 PM »
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Quote from: antares on May 26, 2014, 12:06:01 PM
why risk? i'm trust man

Please help me understand how are you a trusted man?
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« Sent to: antares on: May 26, 2014, 01:02:47 PM »
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Quote from: antares on May 26, 2014, 12:44:36 PM
my status hero member and date reg 2011

ok,  please tell me the process of becoming a "hero"?  How did you earn that.

Ok,  I will sell you 1 btc right now.
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« Sent to: antares on: May 26, 2014, 01:06:35 PM »
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Quote from: antares on May 26, 2014, 12:44:36 PM
my status hero member and date reg 2011

I just sent you 1 btc

Success.
Bitcoins sent successfully to address 1E8CTJLCscMcsun3Aj5edLabHkSaUHajQY.


Can you do ACH to bank of america?
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« Sent to: antares on: May 26, 2014, 01:07:23 PM »
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Quote from: antares on May 26, 2014, 01:05:28 PM
i dont know, maybe uts activity posts. you can sell 3 btc?

I just sent you 1 btc.  Can you pay then I send you another one. then you pay then I send you another one.  This will add up to 3 btc


Title: Re: antares owes me 1 btc
Post by: devthedev on May 28, 2014, 12:13:48 AM
Aw man. Have you tried contacting him again?
Also, In the future you should use an escrow.


Title: Re: antares owes me 1 btc
Post by: gallery2000 on May 28, 2014, 12:15:27 AM
Aw man. Have you tried contacting him again?
Also, In the future you should use an escrow.

I did contact him.  He just did not return my PM.


Title: Re: antares owes me 1 btc
Post by: devthedev on May 28, 2014, 12:21:31 AM
This is another red flag. Dude has no trust ratings at all and likely purchased the account, if he's using this as a reason to trust him.

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my status hero member and date reg 2011


Title: Re: antares owes me 1 btc
Post by: wachtwoord on May 28, 2014, 12:27:11 AM
Antares' (the real one at least) native tongue was likely german: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19001;sa=showPosts


Title: Re: antares owes me 1 btc
Post by: devthedev on May 28, 2014, 12:29:55 AM
Antares' (the real one at least) native tongue was likely german: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19001;sa=showPosts

Yep, that's what it looks like.


Title: Re: antares owes me 1 btc
Post by: gallery2000 on May 28, 2014, 01:22:55 AM
We should strip him of his "hero" status and change it to "zero"


Title: Re: antares owes me 1 btc
Post by: wachtwoord on May 28, 2014, 01:23:57 AM
We should strip him of his "hero" status and change it to "zero"

If people use it purely for trust maybe the name hero should be changed.


Title: Re: antares owes me 1 btc
Post by: gallery2000 on May 28, 2014, 01:25:14 AM
We should strip him of his "hero" status and change it to "zero"

If people use it purely for trust maybe the name hero should be changed.

Yes, the title is very misleading.  How can a con artist be a hero?


Title: Re: antares owes me 1 btc
Post by: wachtwoord on May 28, 2014, 01:28:09 AM
We should strip him of his "hero" status and change it to "zero"

If people use it purely for trust maybe the name hero should be changed.

Yes, the title is very misleading.  How can a con artist be a hero?

The biggest con-artist in Bitcoin are hero members (and usually also VIP members) at bitcointalk.

Hero member used to mean having a certain number of posts. Now it means having an x number of posts spread out over y number of weeks. That's it. Forums titles are misleading across the board in forums if you don't know about this though.


Title: Re: antares owes me 1 btc
Post by: gallery2000 on May 28, 2014, 01:32:51 AM
We should strip him of his "hero" status and change it to "zero"

If people use it purely for trust maybe the name hero should be changed.

Yes, the title is very misleading.  How can a con artist be a hero?

The biggest con-artist in Bitcoin are hero members (and usually also VIP members) at bitcointalk.

Hero member used to mean having a certain number of posts. Now it means having an x number of posts spread out over y number of weeks. That's it. Forums titles are misleading across the board in forums if you don't know about this though.

This needs to be change.  It should be voted on.  A hero is someone who is honest and willing to help other members and should be voted on.   

More people will be victims.   You can not wear police uniforms if you are not a police.


Title: Re: antares owes me 1 btc
Post by: devthedev on May 28, 2014, 01:36:03 AM
We should strip him of his "hero" status and change it to "zero"

If people use it purely for trust maybe the name hero should be changed.

Yes, the title is very misleading.  How can a con artist be a hero?

The thing is, the account was likely bought unfortunately... I can't stand when I see accounts like that.
Contributing to the community and organically building trust is the only way to go.

We should strip him of his "hero" status and change it to "zero"

If people use it purely for trust maybe the name hero should be changed.

Yes, the title is very misleading.  How can a con artist be a hero?

The biggest con-artist in Bitcoin are hero members (and usually also VIP members) at bitcointalk.

Hero member used to mean having a certain number of posts. Now it means having an x number of posts spread out over y number of weeks. That's it. Forums titles are misleading across the board in forums if you don't know about this though.

This needs to be change.  It should be voted on.  A hero is someone who is honest and willing to help other members and should be voted on.   

More people will be victims.   You can not wear police uniforms if you are not a police.

We won't see any change.


Title: Re: antares owes me 1 btc
Post by: williamj2543 on May 28, 2014, 01:38:37 AM
Could the forum admin get his IP maybe?


Title: Re: antares owes me 1 btc
Post by: devthedev on May 28, 2014, 01:42:44 AM
Could the forum admin get his IP maybe?

Of course he can get it, but he most likely won't release it. There's also not much we'd be able to do with the IP...


Title: Re: antares owes me 1 btc
Post by: wachtwoord on May 28, 2014, 11:05:18 AM
Could the forum admin get his IP maybe?

Of course he can get it, but he most likely won't release it. There's also not much we'd be able to do with the IP...

He'll release it to the authorities.


Title: Re: antares owes me 1 btc
Post by: devthedev on May 28, 2014, 11:06:36 AM
Could the forum admin get his IP maybe?

Of course he can get it, but he most likely won't release it. There's also not much we'd be able to do with the IP...

He'll release it to the authorities.

I don't think so. If he gets a proper subpoena maybe.


Title: Re: antares owes me 1 btc
Post by: Light on May 28, 2014, 11:18:19 AM
@OP: Hero Member status is not an indication of trustworthiness, it's simply a reflection of how long has been around for and how active within that time period. While in general older users are more trustworthy, old accounts have been used in the past for long con scams. Try to find people with positive trust and preferably use escrow with everyone.

The best you can do is get someone on DefaultTrust to flag the account until this investigation has been resolved. If Antares doesn't respond then the feedback will be left rendering the account useless and helping to ensure no one else gets scammed.

Theymos generally doesn't give away IPs and even then IPs won't help you much if you've lost $500USD. The IP could be coming from a dynamic IP address so you probably wouldn't be able to track them down without a subpoena to the ISP. Even then the scammer may reside outside your country and mounting a small claims case might take a while. I'd advise you accept what happened and learn from it - you may get your coins back but don't get your hopes up.


Title: Re: antares owes me 1 btc
Post by: KWH on May 28, 2014, 12:02:33 PM
I sent antares 1 btc but he never send me any money. 

First of all, it sucks to be scammed.
Second, you should read here and make a proper, easier to read report: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260073.0
Third, Use escrow. It's been said over and over again to protect yourself and I can't figure out why people refuse to heed this advice.
Fourth, Status doesn't mean trustworthy.


Title: Re: antares owes me 1 btc
Post by: williamj2543 on May 28, 2014, 12:30:03 PM
Make sure you phone the guy first, or I think that the bitcoin should be sent after, and paypal before, because you can revoke paypal.


Title: Re: antares owes me 1 btc
Post by: devthedev on May 28, 2014, 02:05:50 PM
Make sure you phone the guy first, or I think that the bitcoin should be sent after, and paypal before, because you can revoke paypal.

No, just talking to someone on the phone doesn't mean anything. He should use an escrow in the future, simple as that.
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Title: Re: antares owes me 1 btc
Post by: williamj2543 on May 28, 2014, 03:54:35 PM
Make sure you phone the guy first, or I think that the bitcoin should be sent after, and paypal before, because you can revoke paypal.

No, just talking to someone on the phone doesn't mean anything. He should use an escrow in the future, simple as that.
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Escrow would be the best choice I agree.


Title: Re: antares owes me 1 btc
Post by: TheBestBTCdeals on May 28, 2014, 05:25:28 PM
He tried to do business with me, first he demanded I sent first (which is unusual in my experience), I said no because I don't do that ever. We decided to get an escrow, I think he wanted to use his own escrow. I wanted tomatocage escrow, and then he disappeared.


Title: Re: antares owes me 1 btc
Post by: devthedev on May 28, 2014, 05:26:54 PM
He tried to do business with me, first he demanded I sent first (which is unusual in my experience), I said no because I don't do that ever. We decided to get an escrow, I think he wanted to use his own escrow. I wanted tomatocage escrow, and then he disappeared.

Did he happen to mention who his escrow was?
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Title: Re: antares owes me 1 btc
Post by: TheBestBTCdeals on May 28, 2014, 05:46:37 PM
He tried to do business with me, first he demanded I sent first (which is unusual in my experience), I said no because I don't do that ever. We decided to get an escrow, I think he wanted to use his own escrow. I wanted tomatocage escrow, and then he disappeared.

Did he happen to mention who his escrow was?
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Nope. I first offered localbitcoins escrow, which he refused. I then said let's use tomatocage, and that was the end of the conversation. I think he was aiming to use another profile on here as escrow. Also he refused to call me, even though he's in a different country he still could've called, especially for such a large amount ($1000+ of BTC).


Title: Re: antares owes me 1 btc
Post by: gallery2000 on May 28, 2014, 08:53:30 PM
He tried to do business with me, first he demanded I sent first (which is unusual in my experience), I said no because I don't do that ever. We decided to get an escrow, I think he wanted to use his own escrow. I wanted tomatocage escrow, and then he disappeared.

Did he happen to mention who his escrow was?
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Nope. I first offered localbitcoins escrow, which he refused. I then said let's use tomatocage, and that was the end of the conversation. I think he was aiming to use another profile on here as escrow. Also he refused to call me, even though he's in a different country he still could've called, especially for such a large amount ($1000+ of BTC).

I learned from my mistake.  Atleast I did not send him 3 bitcoins that he asked for. 

I think we should make his account useless so that he won't scam other people again.


Title: Re: antares owes me 1 btc
Post by: acs267 on May 28, 2014, 09:01:27 PM
Sucks that you were scammed, but remember, RANK doesn't matter. And next time, use Escrow.

He tried to do business with me, first he demanded I sent first (which is unusual in my experience), I said no because I don't do that ever. We decided to get an escrow, I think he wanted to use his own escrow. I wanted tomatocage escrow, and then he disappeared.

Did he happen to mention who his escrow was?
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Nope. I first offered localbitcoins escrow, which he refused. I then said let's use tomatocage, and that was the end of the conversation. I think he was aiming to use another profile on here as escrow. Also he refused to call me, even though he's in a different country he still could've called, especially for such a large amount ($1000+ of BTC).

I learned from my mistake.  Atleast I did not send him 3 bitcoins that he asked for. 

I think we should make his account useless so that he won't scam other people again.
And people can have as many accounts as they want, so no use in banning his account.


Title: Re: antares owes me 1 btc
Post by: Tomatocage on June 03, 2014, 07:20:05 AM
Thread where you guys made the deal?