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Title: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: b!z on May 28, 2014, 03:41:11 AM
http://www.coinbuzz.com/2014/05/27/mt-gox-willy-bot-report-suspended-from-wordpress/

Was WordPress.com's decision justified? Is there something they are trying to hide?


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: Bit_Happy on May 28, 2014, 05:56:26 AM
http://www.coinbuzz.com/2014/05/27/mt-gox-willy-bot-report-suspended-from-wordpress/

Was WordPress.com's decision justified? Is there something they are trying to hide?

A twist in the plot
To further confound us all, the WordPress account that hosted the Willy Report has been “archived or suspended” due to violations of Wordpress terms of service.

^^^The article doesn't say/speculate which "Terms of Service" were violated.
I wonder if the author will post it somewhere else soon?


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: Light on May 28, 2014, 06:05:21 AM
Was WordPress.com's decision justified? Is there something they are trying to hide?

Well seeing as they haven't actually specified why the Willy report was taken down you can't really say it was or wasn't justified. If there is nothing else at play - ie no real breakage of the Wordpress TOS then I would be suspecting some kind of foul play, but realistically I'm not convinced of an affiliation between Gox and Wordpress. Much more likely something went wrong and they took it down.


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: ranlo on May 28, 2014, 06:07:03 AM
Was WordPress.com's decision justified? Is there something they are trying to hide?

Well seeing as they haven't actually specified why the Willy report was taken down you can't really say it was or wasn't justified. If there is nothing else at play - ie no real breakage of the Wordpress TOS then I would be suspecting some kind of foul play, but realistically I'm not convinced of an affiliation between Gox and Wordpress. Much more likely something went wrong and they took it down.

I'm with you on this. My first question is why Wordpress would care about what was said about Gox. They wouldn't.

There must have been a deeper reason (unrelated to all of this) as to why it was done. Who ran Willy Report? Someone should ask them for more information.


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: Gimmelfarb on May 28, 2014, 06:11:32 AM
it's very odd that it would get taken down for a terms of service violation. has anyone speculated as to what the breach may have been? i racked my brain a bit, and i'm really coming up empty. it's true...why would they possibly care? or... dun dun dun -- who would have pressured them?


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: validium on May 28, 2014, 06:11:44 AM
http://www.coinbuzz.com/2014/05/27/mt-gox-willy-bot-report-suspended-from-wordpress/

Was WordPress.com's decision justified? Is there something they are trying to hide?

A twist in the plot
To further confound us all, the WordPress account that hosted the Willy Report has been “archived or suspended” due to violations of Wordpress terms of service.

^^^The article doesn't say/speculate which "Terms of Service" were violated.
I wonder if the author will post it somewhere else soon?

The fact that they suspended the account is just dumb, i hope it gets posted somewhere else, blogspot. Maybe somebody from gox had something to do with this.


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: ranlo on May 28, 2014, 06:16:37 AM
it's very odd that it would get taken down for a terms of service violation. has anyone speculated as to what the breach may have been? i racked my brain a bit, and i'm really coming up empty. it's true...why would they possibly care? or... dun dun dun -- who would have pressured them?

Thinking about this more, didn't they link to or hint as to how to get the leaked Gox documents? If so, this could be seen as a liability for WP (being that they could be sued) and that may be what sparked it. Just speculation, obviously.


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: Bit_Happy on May 28, 2014, 06:23:34 AM

The fact that they suspended the account is just dumb, i hope it gets posted somewhere else, blogspot. Maybe somebody from gox had something to do with this.

Should we blame Brock Pierce and Sunlot Holdings secretly working with Mark?
...or...
Do you hear the Bitcoin Foundation had the article removed?   .......lol?


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 28, 2014, 08:21:05 AM
The cache is still available, so I suggest somebody(s) capture as much as possible and self-host the content using a Wordpress theme.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:gwUebRBBbrMJ:willyreport.wordpress.com/2014/05/25/the-willy-report-proof-of-massive-fraudulent-trading-activity-at-mt-gox-and-how-it-has-affected-the-price-of-bitcoin/+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Please post here if you're up to the task.

~Bruno Kucinskas

PS: BTW, I just discovered who Satoshi Nakamoto is if you're interested and want to weigh-in on the poll. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=628344.0


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: haploid23 on May 28, 2014, 08:24:03 AM
It's been taken down, but don't worry I've already seen the article get rehosted several times. I'll search for those links, other than the cached from google.


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: Snail2 on May 28, 2014, 08:34:11 AM
The wordpress TOS is a swamp. Very easy to violate as it's just a bunch of generic rubbish and lots of "rubber rules".


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: MineForeman.com on May 28, 2014, 08:34:27 AM
Something I thought odd when the article was published (and I am not saying that this is the reason), David Gilson (the author of the article) is quite a prolific blogger, you can find his blog here;-

http://davidgilson.co.uk/blog/

Yet if you do a search of his blog (http://davidgilson.co.uk/?s=willy) nothing.  I have been a bit ill of late or I would have done a bit further digging.

Neil


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: keithers on May 28, 2014, 08:51:49 AM
I think I downloaded it as pdf on one of my computers if anyone wants. Or if allot of people still want to read it, someone should just copy and paste the whole thing to this thread..,


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: turvarya on May 28, 2014, 08:55:55 AM
Something I thought odd when the article was published (and I am not saying that this is the reason), David Gilson (the author of the article) is quite a prolific blogger, you can find his blog here;-

http://davidgilson.co.uk/blog/

Yet if you do a search of his blog (http://davidgilson.co.uk/?s=willy) nothing.  I have been a bit ill of late or I would have done a bit further digging.

Neil
I guess, he published it on WordPress because he knew it would be taken down eventually and didn't want, that this influences his blog.


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: MineForeman.com on May 28, 2014, 09:06:01 AM
I guess, he published it on WordPress because he knew it would be taken down eventually and didn't want, that this influences his blog.

Could also be that I am referring to the wrong person (and I am)... like I said, I have been ill and not firing on all cylinders ;) .

Neil


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: haploid23 on May 28, 2014, 09:29:16 AM
Here you go, I found a link that rehosted the article. Copy this one before it gets taken down as well:

http://bitleaks.net/willyreport.html


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: calmindifference on May 28, 2014, 09:35:34 AM
torrent here:

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:138FE3C38D92F7208081D11C7DD4F9DB43B5FBAA&dn=Bitleaks&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3a80%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.publicbt.com%3a80%2fannounce


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: hilariousandco on May 28, 2014, 12:53:14 PM
it's very odd that it would get taken down for a terms of service violation. has anyone speculated as to what the breach may have been? i racked my brain a bit, and i'm really coming up empty. it's true...why would they possibly care? or... dun dun dun -- who would have pressured them?

If they got a cease and desist from somebody's lawyer they might've just complied with it without looking into whether it actually violated any terms or not. I would like to know what it apparently violated though.


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: Joshuar on May 28, 2014, 02:58:47 PM
http://www.coinbuzz.com/2014/05/27/mt-gox-willy-bot-report-suspended-from-wordpress/

Was WordPress.com's decision justified? Is there something they are trying to hide?

Dude, that report shows MtGox database info which was Hacked from MtGox. It's illegal my friend to have that information and they could of gotten sued. That's why it was taken down...


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: jc01480 on May 28, 2014, 04:01:14 PM
Given the ongoing civil litigation (and possibly criminal, though nobody will confirm that), there was probably a gag order requested by either side.  Most likely, the party requesting it sent a copy signed by a magistrate with jurisdiction (federal) to wordpress.  Wordpress is reasonable in taking it down if this was the case.  It's not their fight.  Let the attorneys scramble all over the web trying to suppress the other sources as well.  Makes for an interesting (futile) adventure.


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: ranlo on May 28, 2014, 05:24:45 PM
http://www.coinbuzz.com/2014/05/27/mt-gox-willy-bot-report-suspended-from-wordpress/

Was WordPress.com's decision justified? Is there something they are trying to hide?

Dude, that report shows MtGox database info which was Hacked from MtGox. It's illegal my friend to have that information and they could of gotten sued. That's why it was taken down...

Yeah, this is what I was thinking as well. Just sharing input and such wouldn't get a ToS violation. Sharing leaked documents (financial especially) would.


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 28, 2014, 07:51:22 PM
The question is who had Wordpress' ear when the request was made for the take-down, for surely they didn't stumble upon the URL themselves via some "Willie" search, albeit an argument could be made.


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: Bit_Happy on May 28, 2014, 08:27:31 PM
Willie has been set free and will remain in the wild forever.

The question is who had Wordpress' ear when the request was made for the take-down, for surely they didn't stumble upon the URL themselves via some "Willie" search, albeit an argument could be made.

Sunlot Holdings has the all seeing power on their side. They will make a great new owner for Gox.  ::)


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: franky1 on May 28, 2014, 08:43:47 PM
what is everyone bitching about. do you lil mouthy bitches not even research the news provided to you on a spoon..

RESEARCH the news bitches.

firstly go to http://willyreport.wordpress.com/
or
http://willyreport.wordpress.com/2014/05/25/the-willy-report-proof-of-massive-fraudulent-trading-activity-at-mt-gox-and-how-it-has-affected-the-price-of-bitcoin/

and guess what. all the documentation is still there. you can still read the whole thing from top to bottom

so dont bitch about something you dont know.

its like watching old people bitch for hours that they lost their glasses without even looking or feeling to see if they were on the top of their head,or in their jacket pocket

now have a nice day


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: jc01480 on May 28, 2014, 09:24:35 PM
what is everyone bitching about. do you lil mouthy bitches not even research the news provided to you on a spoon..

RESEARCH the news bitches.

firstly go to http://willyreport.wordpress.com/
or
http://willyreport.wordpress.com/2014/05/25/the-willy-report-proof-of-massive-fraudulent-trading-activity-at-mt-gox-and-how-it-has-affected-the-price-of-bitcoin/

and guess what. all the documentation is still there. you can still read the whole thing from top to bottom

so dont bitch about something you dont know.

its like watching old people bitch for hours that they lost their glasses without even looking or feeling to see if they were on the top of their head,or in their jacket pocket

now have a nice day

Why bother?  Everyone is so quick to correct us?


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: tianrui81317 on May 28, 2014, 09:33:16 PM
   
Wordpress can delete user's blog? I think it's abusing.


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: ranlo on May 29, 2014, 01:42:03 AM
   
Wordpress can delete user's blog? I think it's abusing.

They *have* to delete blogs in certain cases, as it's a liability issue. If they get a C&D order they can be sued if they don't follow it.


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: bluemeanie1 on May 29, 2014, 01:50:01 AM
http://www.coinbuzz.com/2014/05/27/mt-gox-willy-bot-report-suspended-from-wordpress/

Was WordPress.com's decision justified? Is there something they are trying to hide?

I have a copy if anyone wants it.

-bm


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 29, 2014, 02:13:15 AM
what is everyone bitching about. do you lil mouthy bitches not even research the news provided to you on a spoon..

RESEARCH the news bitches.

firstly go to http://willyreport.wordpress.com/
or
http://willyreport.wordpress.com/2014/05/25/the-willy-report-proof-of-massive-fraudulent-trading-activity-at-mt-gox-and-how-it-has-affected-the-price-of-bitcoin/

and guess what. all the documentation is still there. you can still read the whole thing from top to bottom

so dont bitch about something you dont know.

its like watching old people bitch for hours that they lost their glasses without even looking or feeling to see if they were on the top of their head,or in their jacket pocket

now have a nice day

But... but... but.. It was down! We all saw it... I mean didn't see. Which begs the question: Are we truly seeing it now?


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: elvizzzzzzz on May 29, 2014, 07:48:51 AM
ZeroHedge.com has a thread on the Willy Report with full details and a link to the (then missing) Wordpress page.

There is an interesting comment from Ian Green tracing the movements of 1.200,000 BTC

quote

“If you take a look at THIS bitcoin wallet:-

https://blockchain.info/address/12Nxd2X12WZeYSjUcbtm5NpS3d81Yh8sKh

You will see about 120 payments (the red arrows) of 0.000777 bitcoins into other wallets.
Click on one
It
takes you into a wallet which had 10,000 bitcoins deposited in it
(usually on 6 Feb, the day before MTGOX disabled withdrawals, then
0.000777 BTC the next day (probably from a bitcoin wallet on an android
phone).

unquote


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: turvarya on May 29, 2014, 01:30:19 PM
what is everyone bitching about. do you lil mouthy bitches not even research the news provided to you on a spoon..

RESEARCH the news bitches.

firstly go to http://willyreport.wordpress.com/
or
http://willyreport.wordpress.com/2014/05/25/the-willy-report-proof-of-massive-fraudulent-trading-activity-at-mt-gox-and-how-it-has-affected-the-price-of-bitcoin/

and guess what. all the documentation is still there. you can still read the whole thing from top to bottom

so dont bitch about something you dont know.

its like watching old people bitch for hours that they lost their glasses without even looking or feeling to see if they were on the top of their head,or in their jacket pocket

now have a nice day
It was down. I checked it my self.
So, don't bitch about something you don't know.


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: Joshuar on May 29, 2014, 01:30:32 PM
   
Wordpress can delete user's blog? I think it's abusing.

They *have* to delete blogs in certain cases, as it's a liability issue. If they get a C&D order they can be sued if they don't follow it.

This^^ He's right.


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: BurtW on May 29, 2014, 01:38:06 PM
So it was there, then it was not there, now it is there.

Did anyone run a dif to see if anything changed?


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: b!z on May 29, 2014, 02:27:42 PM
*insert conspiracy theory here*


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: Meuh6879 on May 29, 2014, 02:41:28 PM
insert mirror of PDF version of this report ...  ::)


bloody hell, free blog to hosting this ?
Are you really stupid ?
only really free media can deal with limited theory to accuse a enterprise...

commercial blog or hosting service can't do this ...
that's why free FTP exist
that's why P2P file sharing exist
that's why ToR system exist




HOST THIS in wikileaks !


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: ranlo on May 29, 2014, 02:49:59 PM
*insert conspiracy theory here*

Yeah, I don't get why people automatically jump to conclusions about how x runs y or whatever based on no information, rather than the more logical explanations (that have been around for longer than Bitcoin, called the law).


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: dewdeded on May 29, 2014, 03:20:16 PM
I also mirrored it.

http://bitcoinhistory.net/MtGox/willyreport.html


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 29, 2014, 07:35:12 PM
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/182070/The%20Willy%20Report_%20proof%20of%20massive%20fraudulent%20trading%20activity%20at%20Mt.pdf


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: JypsiCreme on May 29, 2014, 07:45:51 PM
They're definietely trying to cover some bad things.


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 29, 2014, 09:18:50 PM
They're definietely trying to cover some bad things.

Another case of Newbies joining the board to bump threads in the Discussion section to further bury anything of relevance.


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: jc01480 on May 30, 2014, 02:24:23 AM
Dude, it's on the internet, therefore it must be fact!  ???


Title: Re: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud
Post by: mamarried on June 01, 2014, 01:32:41 PM
The fact that it was censored lends more credibility to the theory and conclusions. Clearly there are people who are keen to keep the mtgox story completely private, and while it may benefit this bull rally in the short term, it will do irreparable damage to bitcoin in the long run.