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Hi guys (and may even also girls ;)),

I'm looking for someone trustworthy, who wants to invest (lend me) 0.75BTC for @ least one week.
After this week, I'll pay not at least this 0.75BTC, but also another 0.15BTC - in total 0.90BTC - back to you.

Also, the person will hold my collateral of 3650 NRS (currently worth ~ 1BTC) during that time, until he/she'll receive his/her repayment.
 

NRS in overview:

#        Name             Market Cap         Price             Available Supply        Volume (24h)       % Change (24h)
52    NoirShares           $348,67        $ 0.162161         2,150,206 NRS           $ 11,936                -23.75 %


The only one exchange trading them (so far) is Poloniex.com

More information to the price including charts here:
https://poloniex.com/exchange/btc_nrs

They have a new multipool:
http://www.noirpool.com/

and will be listed on Cryptsy soon:
https://www.cryptsy.com/coinvotes/

You'll find more details to this shares here:
http://www.noirds.com/

Especially the Participation options are interesting:
"NoirShares is a new venture in cryptocurrency and Decentralized Autonomous Corporations and Software (DAC/S).
NRS is more than just a cryptocoin, it is the technology that provides the foundation for corporate activities such as voting, funding, trading, communication, contracts, value transfer, and more.
There are many ways to benefit from your participation in NRS. Holding NRS gives you ownership rights in future DACs and ventures developed by Noir Group...".

Important: NRS are Noir shares, not Noir coins!

But:
But, each case - no matter if the price will fall or rise; The person holding my 3650 NRS, has to make sure, to fully transfer them back after receiving his repayment of 0.90BTC.
I wouldn't hold them and could sell them more flexible on my own if I wouldn't trust them; So you're may better be able believe me, to want them back.

Also:
If you're interested, please make sure to not send this coins from an exchange.
To follow them back, I will just accept payments directly from the wallets.

Escrow if wished and known, will be no problem.

Of course I will also offer my last feedback:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=616830.0


This deal will be public, too.


I'm looking for your rewrites -

Greetz


BitZCoin






Updates:

- monbux will do escrow, if wished :)

^-Because of the volatility I'll spend you 3650 NRS collateral! ^{- instead of 3500 NRS}

- I ate a butterbread

- Also less than 0.75 BTC are possible. This investment will bring you 10%/week

- The colleteral over 2000 NRS to monbux got payed.
 - Transacion-ID: ecd197bdca49d4f763347d1ed874c68eda8ad850faf2f8cd183d972682eef3d3

- I took a bath

- Lights loan received: https://blockchain.info/tx/cfb02785748ed8b84d2ec887e52ce944b67a56804b07b13a3c08d62a3666d5da

- Making some money :)

- Startet a second transaction over 0.2BTC with icet208 (Payback, after 5 days =0 0.225BTC)
 - The colleteral over 1000 NRS to monbux got payed: b350b734a27bd3fdf14e85cd7b18808ebd8e6febf9754d1f8d6a8cead757ecbf
 - Received icet208s transaction: http://blockchain.info/tx/1c629eb10a9a14b2377a713bebc176c20358ab22e51a62fbfa640f242d0cac2b

- The fun goes on  8)

- June 06, 2014 0.25 BTC got repaid to icet208: 34840a477baf6fdb96e7461a62b97f05244d8f1ccfca7c673b39399e46b3a453

- Siri told me, to move forward  :)

- June 15, 2014 0.65 BTC got payed back to Light: 6faba7983a1a0a20a234db03a5de4d4cd84c7fa1825bcc175ac19acbb31a29cc

- June 15, 2014 0.05 BTC got payed to monbux, for escrow: dc6d1fcd4bf3675af4a92e185c18224140b8f264dedf1c33f3125f7c6d2332cb

- It's colder outside, than over the hill  :o

- Received my collateral (NRS): d3eea13ab7d8c25452a442bce7099389cfacf92d8bec73d84ca9d10c9cd047fa

- Finally done
 
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Thanks to all of you for a great deal.
It was full of trust und fairness, just like it should be. In the end, each one of us was/is a winner and I'm looking forward, to our next bargain.
We'll see/write us :)

Have a solid business

GreetZ


BitZCoin

If you will find someone interested in your collateral ...

Why you wont just sell those coins and buy again when you will have money?

also :
So, no escrow?

I'm trading and if I would sell my own coins, I would loose this money :)

If you have one :)

ps. and your coins are worth ~0.8BTC rather than ~1BTC according to buy orders :) (where people want to buy more than 100 coins)


but I wish you luck.

Right now, they are worth ~0.98BTC.
https://poloniex.com/exchange/btc_nrs

But, let's hold it as easy as possible. I'll offer 3650 NRS collateral for this week.
Of course, also escrow if wished and known, will be no problem.

Greetz


BitZCoin

I've done a previous loan with BitZCoin - he paid back as promised, with no problems.  I don't currently have the BTC to fund this loan, but I would be happy to hold the coins as escrow, my fee is 1% of the collateral's worth.

NRS does seem to be a bit unstable though, it rises and drops a bit too quick for my liking :O

Nice, thank you bud! :)

@OP: I'd be happy to lend you BTC0.4 if you wish for collateral of 2000 NRS. Interest @ BTC0.0125 per day. At the moment I don't have the capabilities to accept NRS so I would be happy to use monbux as escrow provided you take on the fee.

I'd appreciate if you posted your response here - nothing wrong with keeping things public.

Perfect :)
So I'll be able to pay them back within' the time, too? :)

I would appreciate the deal this way and 'll overtake the fee to monbux.

Edit:
But also let's say 0.01BTC/day calculated with 0.4BTC and the ability to pay back each day, within the week.
It's still a good deal :)

Alright, it looks both sides have agreed that I act as escrow, and will hold onto the collateral for this loan: 2000 NRS.  

The fee will be: 0.006 BTC/week, if that is fair enough for you, BitZCoin.  Fee must be paid in BTC to: 1Q2CupiU5DfWupRGBQ66QYRqvxoNxGZCcn


Before I return the 2000 NRS collateral.

If you agree, please send 2000 NRS to: 9eULSix1HYua8zVoo3cESVzbXnuDDxnxTA
Once I confirm the NRS have been received, user "Light" will send 0.4 BTC to address stated by BitZCoin (don't see it here).

What will the interest be?  BitZCoin has proposed a lower value of 0.01 BTC, Light, do you accept? 

Given that you're already offering the equivalent of BTC0.01142857142 in interest for BTC0.4 (scaled from your offer) and I drive a hard bargain, I'll take BTC0.011 in interest per day just to make the numbers a little nicer.

You can pay back at any time - the interest will be applied for the duration of the loan (regardless of the changing loan size). The only stipulation I have is that the loan term may not exceed 3 weeks which should be fine for you.

Let me know if there are any problems. If not feel free to send monbux the collateral and once I get the message I'll send you the coins (please post an address).

Watching.  BitZCoin, do you agree with 0.011 BTC/day interest?  Maximum length 3 weeks. 
If you agree, please send 2000 NRS to: 9eULSix1HYua8zVoo3cESVzbXnuDDxnxTA

Light, I will send you a message and post here for public records once BitZCoin sends.

No problems. Will wait for your message. Just for public record:

Loan Amount: BTC0.4
Interest: BTC0.011/day
Max Loan Period: 21 days

I could do the loan... the .75BTC with repay of .9BTC with those coins as collateral if your other loan doesn't work out.

I'd be happy to escrow this one as well - if BitZCoin is taking more loans, or he/she might take more loans in the future.

I'm absolutely fine with this :)



You know what? Let's do it simple as possible. :)
Loan Amount: BTC0.4
Interest: BTC0.012/day
Max Loan Period: 21 days



Sry. it's a really good offer.
From an economic point it would be may even better.
- But one of my principles in buying or selling things is: Who comes first served first.
Let us trade the next time.
Also, I'm still offering another 1000 NRS for some coins, if you would be interested in dealing with them? :)
Of course monbux will be allowed to escrow here, too; If he wants to. :)

Thing is, that I'm doing this as a little bit just for fun, cause this loan is a managable amount, to loose in the worst case.
Usually I try to play save. But that also means that to don't take money I don't have. - Even if it's just one Cent.
You have to follow some principles when trading. If you once begin to don't take your own rules seriously, it will be the the beginning of the end, I think.

But let's see how this will run and may I'll take some more coins, the next time. :)

@ monbux:

I just transfered the 2000 NRS:
Status: 0/unbestätigt, über 5 Knoten übertragen
Datum: 29.05.2014 06:01
An: 9eULSix1HYua8zVoo3cESVzbXnuDDxnxTA
Belastung: -2000.00 NRS
Transaktionsgebühr: -0.01 NRS
Nettobetrag: -2000.01 NRS
Transaktions-ID: ecd197bdca49d4f763347d1ed874c68eda8ad850faf2f8cd183d972682eef3d3

You should receive them within' the next short time. :)



@ Blazedout419*

This will be the BTC adresse I'll receive your coins: :)
1GqHASgaVAbmkDGFDSYfyGQc5mdZBhsGJy




Ok mates, let's make us some money :)

Greetz


BitZCoin




*Edit:

- Meant Light of course

Sure no problems.


I'm assuming you meant me from what I've read? Once monbux confirms he's received the collateral I can release the coins to you.

If you need this again, I would also be interested. Just send me a pm if you're up for it.

Haha, yes of course, sry. for this :)

Also, thanks.
I'll remember! :)

Sorry guys, was asleep :P

2000 NRS recieved: Transaction ID: ecd197bdca49d4f763347d1ed874c68eda8ad850faf2f8cd183d972682eef3d3
Light, please send 0.4 BTC to: 1GqHASgaVAbmkDGFDSYfyGQc5mdZBhsGJy

Just before I send I want to confirm that this is the address.

1GqHASgaVAbmkDGFDSYfyGQc5mdZBhsGJy

@OP Please check it to ensure there is no mistake.

No reason, to apologies it really was no long time :)
And sleep is important, it's hard to get some while holding crypto in this wild, wild west anyway.   ;D

Ok, thanks for the feedback. :)




I'll guarentee this is the right adresse and to hold the responsibility for the liabilie of wrong data, made by me.
My BTC-confirmation adresse is:

1GqHASgaVAbmkDGFDSYfyGQc5mdZBhsGJy :)

Sent. https://blockchain.info/tx/cfb02785748ed8b84d2ec887e52ce944b67a56804b07b13a3c08d62a3666d5da
Please confirm. Enjoy your loan! :)

Thanks.

Thanks a lot, I'll give the confirmation, when received. :)


But how will we handle to count the days?

My suggestion would be, to end this (first day 2014-05-26) on  00:00 o'clock, german time and following so on?
The current repayment, will be on morning on the following day, each also german time.

Would be best to handle for me, but 'am also open for different ideas. :)

Just take it from now. Since it's 29/05/2014 (near the end of the day for me), I'll just take it from 30/05/14 (which should save you a day's interest). We'll just count off the days from there (i.e 31/05/14 would mean 1 days interest etc).

Nice! :D

Also got the coins, right now.

Thank you guys. :)
So far so good. That's the way, a business has to run, I think :)

Greetz


BitZCoin

No problemo. Nice dealing with you. Hope everything goes well :)

We'll hold it run, as smoth as it is right now, I'm sure. :)

Write ya',

Cheers :)

Also:
Cheers to monbux of course :)

Till then,


BitZCoin

PS.:

Sry. monbux,

I forgot to ask you, about to would it be ok to find the same rule with the time I'll pay theBTC to you, like last time we traded and also here, with Light? :)

Also I'm open for any ideas. :)

still need a loan?

Up to 1000 NRS (worth about ~ 0.255BTC) in change against 0.2BTC for 5 days are still available. :)
*

For sure, monbux 'll do escrow, if you wish this? :)
But we'll have to ask him, of course.

Hold it easy, short, fast and fair as possible, I would prefer to handle the rest (payback, public deal, etc.) like with Light and monbux elaborate.
As usual ideas are always welcome. :)

Greetz


BitZCoin



*Edit:

Will pay back 2.25BTC after this time and this amount. :)

how much interest?

Haha, sry. just edited the reply above :)

2.25? :D

~ 10% :)

ok you can send 1000 NRS  to monbux. After he confirms il send the btc

Nice, runs also pretty fast and simple, that's how I like it. :)


Here's my Transaction:
Status: 5 Bestätigungen
Datum: 29.05.2014 15:59
An: I...8 9eULSix1HYua8zVoo3cESVzbXnuDDxnxTA
Belastung: -1000.00 NRS
Transaktionsgebühr: -0.01 NRS
Nettobetrag: -1000.01 NRS
Transaktions-ID: b350b734a27bd3fdf14e85cd7b18808ebd8e6febf9754d1f8d6a8cead757ecbf
Transaction comment:
text:I...8

Greetz


BitZCoin

waiting for monbux confirmation

I didn't expect for another loan, but ok :)

1000 NRS received.  Please send BTC amount as stated above to BitZCoin's given address.  The escrow fee for this will be 0.0025 BTC/week.

Thank you. :)

BitZCoin, do you need more loans after this?  I've just received my payment from another loan, so I have some BTC free for lending, if you need more loans afterwards :)

It seems as if this is flawed to be honest. I'd rather have a better collateral.

Welp, it's sort of an insured leap of faith. If he defaults and the value goes down dramatically I'll be at a loss - but not such a major loss (probably lose some hope for humanity though). But I've weighed up my options and decided that is was worth the risk. We'll see how it goes.

BitZCoin
at what address do I send the BTC?

To this one :)

1GqHASgaVAbmkDGFDSYfyGQc5mdZBhsGJy

Thanks bud :)

Greetz


BitZCoin

I have no plans for this, so far.
Also, I'm sure this time here, will not be the last time. :)
But I'll write you, when I'll have something on my mind and thanks a lot! :)

sent 0.2 BTC to 1GqHASgaVAbmkDGFDSYfyGQc5mdZBhsGJy

Tx ID: http://blockchain.info/tx/1c629eb10a9a14b2377a713bebc176c20358ab22e51a62fbfa640f242d0cac2b

cheers

Also received this loan :)

Cheers :)

whether there is a minimum amount that I can lend, considering I currently do not have enough BTC but I am interested to invest.

Try reading the above posts :P


He currently does not need anymore loans... but I believe he is an active trader, so hey, perhaps there will be more opportunities in the future ;)

:D I couldn't find it, probably 0.2? if it so, I'm out. that's all I have free BTC for lending. lol.

Forgot to give you the repayment address.

1Light1BN9Lu38Jab9iqVmJXt4Rc66WAoB

Thanks.

Same as Light I forgot the repayment address :
18sQ1NxQvhNFyQeTqj2JnCQyGyGdPaBzpW

It's been a week so far. Just posting to see if you have any new updates for us (ie an estimated ETA)?

it‘s a  good  job，i like it  ;D

like Light sayed..it`s been 7 days..if we don`t hear nothing from bitzcoin when will you ( monbux ) release the NRS coins? (the loan should be for 5 days..)

Haha, sry. yes I'm a few hours late again :D
It's the following next day, which fits :)

But, off course, I have to to apologize for that:
I was free to doubled your mount for this :)

(Direct from an exchange, to transfer them faster)
Also, I guesss it's no difference in that case. Who would transfer it, instead of me?^^ The main thing is, you'll receive your money back as fast as possible :)
Here it comes: :)


Currency   Amount   Address   Date   Status
BTC   0.2501   18sQ1NxQvhNFyQeTqj2JnCQyGyGdPaBzpW   2014-06-06 12:32:34   COMPLETE: 34840a477baf6fdb96e7461a62b97f05244d8f1ccfca7c673b39399e46b3a453




But Light,
 
I thought we would have the lend up, to 21 days? :)
But also, if you want to, I could repay you immediately. :)

Will write you :)


Sry. for the circumstances,

GreetZ


BitZCoin

thx bro..nice doing business with you..trust +

Thanks dear

Enjoyed a lot, too.  :)


See ya :)



Ouh and by the way, here is my NRS adresse for monbux :)
9kwWwhsfBvhUUThtSfhpYXCZrdGkF7VEj5

Do you prefer to subtract your loan in NRS directly when you'll transfer them back to me, or may should I transfer the BTC to an adresse of you? :)

I'm ok with both.. but I prefer in bitcoin.  Please send 0.003 BTC to my address: 1Q2CupiU5DfWupRGBQ66QYRqvxoNxGZCcn
And I will send 1000 NRS back to 9kwWwhsfBvhUUThtSfhpYXCZrdGkF7VEj5.  Thanks!

Yeah, this loan period is still going to up to 21 days. No need to repay me now.

Sorry about the confusion, I was just wondering whether you were going to be on track to make the 21 day repayment date. Just like to check in once a week with my borrowers to see if everything is going good.

Thanks.

Here you are monbux :)

BTC   0.005988   1Q2CupiU5DfWupRGBQ66QYRqvxoNxGZCcn   2014-06-09 01:53:07   COMPLETE: d94fb3d61e3f851738efded3364b0f3b08e8de1aa4509ed669562300bcf016a7

You sent a bit too much, fee is 0.003 BTC. :)  If you want them back, give me your BTC address ;)

Status: 0/unconfirmed, broadcast through 7 nodes
Date: 2014-06-08 22:12
To: Collateral repayment 9kwWwhsfBvhUUThtSfhpYXCZrdGkF7VEj5
Debit: -1000.00 NRS
Transaction fee: -0.01 NRS
Net amount: -1000.01 NRS
Transaction ID: fcc22781e1700e1f569cd9920aca9224dec2eccd1e93b2a055e5b1a7e4848412


Sent 1000 NRS, which concludes this 0.2 BTC loan.  Thank you!

It's always encouraging to see loans like this end favorably. The scams/scam attempts far outnumber the legitimate loans.

Ok guys :)

First of all, I have to thank all of you for your trust :)
My business fared well and now the time to cash you out and run yours well, too has come  :)

Light,
I loan 0.4BTC with an interest of 0.012BTC/day, 17 days ago.
That makes 0.604BTC for you.
I'm not a fan of such nasty numbers, so let me round this up a little bit.
Here's my transaction to you :)

0.65BTC to 1Light1BN9Lu38Jab9iqVmJXt4Rc66WAoB
COMPLETE: 6faba7983a1a0a20a234db03a5de4d4cd84c7fa1825bcc175ac19acbb31a29cc


Monbux,
I have to especially thank you, for making this possible.
We said 0.006BTC/week, also 17 days ago.
That makes ~ 0.01457...BTC
You where the person, who put his shirt on for me. So let me honour this, too.
Here's my repayment for you.  

0.05BTC to 1Q2CupiU5DfWupRGBQ66QYRqvxoNxGZCcn
COMPLETE: dc6d1fcd4bf3675af4a92e185c18224140b8f264dedf1c33f3125f7c6d2332cb

Also, I will give you two trusts for your escrow.
The first one with icet208 should not be forgotten here. :)

The adresse for my 2000 NRS collateral, will be 9fsQ2ZpjvbVfq3tcXe9frNMrkRY4Ew6WHU

It was a  pleasure to me and I wish all of you a good start in the week :)
See you next time my friends,

greetZ


BitZCoin

Thank you very much for that tip, it was unnecessary, but thanks :)

Sent back 1999.98 NRS (sorry, transaction fees :-/)

Status: 0/unconfirmed, broadcast through 7 nodes
Date: 2014-06-15 17:40
To: 9fsQ2ZpjvbVfq3tcXe9frNMrkRY4Ew6WHU
Debit: -1999.98 NRS
Transaction fee: -0.01 NRS
Net amount: -1999.99 NRS
Transaction ID: d3eea13ab7d8c25452a442bce7099389cfacf92d8bec73d84ca9d10c9cd047fa


Thank you BitZCoin, for a proper loan request :)  I hope we can conduct more deals in the future as well!
Have a great weekend,

Monbux

P.S.  Interested in funding your future loans... ::) until then!

Thanks monbux,

I'm looking forward, to the next time we'll deal together :)


See you :)

Confirmed. Thanks for the quick repayment - happy everything worked out. Left you and monbux some feedback.